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UQ Holder! 108

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Summoning Koreanbro.
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>>135883874
Why so fast this week?
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>>135883874
Why is Karin so hot?
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>>135883874
Why don't you dump it meanwhile?
http://www.mangaumaru.com/archives/590675
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>>135887241
>http://www.mangaumaru.com/archives/590675
>touta saying he loves everyone
someone stop this madman
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>>135887241
We need to verify Koreanbro's willing to TL this shit, 1st.
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>>135887689
Does he really say "Love" every-time?
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>>135887689
>>135887241
>Karin can't even restrain him anymore without Yukihime's help
Useless senpai is useless.
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>>135887689
Kirie in some pages looks so fuckable.
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>>135888144
>Doesn't even need to look at her to dodge her attacks.
Dana a best.
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I've never been more impatient for chapter than I've been since UQ 107. Karin does weird thing to my heart.
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Remember when Touta was weak little shit that getss owned? i dont.
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>>135889797
Mahora tournament never.
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>>135889797
You will when we actually get back to the fight part of this manga ETA 2 months at the least
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>>135889797
nigga was train by a existence that can control time and shit
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>>135889893
hopefully never.
I prefer comfy story. Negima shonen is a big disaster
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>>135890002
Negima in full battle manga mode was somewhat disastrous, but so was Negima in full harem mode. Hopefully UQ balances the two well now that it's haremed up as well.
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>>135890002
I used to think comfyfags were harmless, now they're fucking everywhere and really annoying. Not every story has to be slow and comfy, for fuck's sake.
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>>135890002
>Chao Arc
>Raken training arc
>disastrous

Anon cmon, i like comfy too but there was some genuinely good shounen battle parts of negima, long as akamatsu doesnt go overboard on either this will be fine
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Holy fucking shit, this bastard is bigger womanizer than his grandfather or great grandfather.
Mizore said he can impregnate woman with a glance, at that time that's a joke but now it seems plausible.
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>>135889797
>weak little shit
When bunch of nobles appear in the tournament, he will be one once again.
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Santa relevance fucking when?

I do love Karin though, do I'm fine with this arc.
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>>135890557
He'll at least kick some ass at the beginning.
>>135890832
He looked pretty girly in that one panel he appeared in.
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>http://anime.astronerdboy.com/2016/01/uq-holder-chapter-108-spoiler-info.html
Mizore keeps getting BTFO.
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>>135890292
Yes, that is why Mizore has to tame Touta and make sure his power are not abused.

Also can I ask you for the source of that pic?
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>>135890292
Hes literally just a child, actually Ken pulling shit like this kind of makes his confession toward Eva lose all meaning.
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>>135891801
No he doesn't. This is basically the same thing as when he said he loves everyone, unless you are implying Touta is bi since he said that to Ikkuu and Santa as well.
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>>135891801
>says I LOVE YOU to everyone else
>only says MARRY ME to Yukihime
Yeah no.
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>>135891801
He only proposes marriage to Eva though. It's clear she is top one in his heart.
The others are just mistresses and fuccbois.
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I was kinda hoping he'd spell cancel his way out of Eva's prison then proceed to hold her down while spouting his "MARRY MEEEE!!" shtick, and everyone had to help stop him.
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>>135891786
Sure, from manga 7th Garden

>>135891801
Well, he likes everyone in platonic fashion but he loves Yukihime in romantic fashion.
Look >>135892018 and >>135892287
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>>135892018
>>135892287
>>135893683
I'm not saying he doesn't clearly like her the best.

The issue is it shows he clearly has no idea what love means, despite us going through an entire fucking arc about him learning what love means.
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>>135894531
It comes from the ambiguous word. Suki can mean love and like in nip. When he talks to someone other than Eva, he means like. How can you believe his love for Eva is not pure after all these chapters. Even the Kirie arc reminded us of that again.
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>>135894680
Because he's 4, it's like daughters saying they'll marry Daddy when they grow up, I doubt Touta is thinking all that far ahead besides that he's lived with her a long time and loves her.
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I know this is isn't about UQ Holder, but does anyone know the exact chapter where Kaede fights Quintum, in Negima? The one where she nearly dies by Quintum, but it revived by Cosmo Entalecheia.
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>>135894531
>he clearly has no idea what love means
Not really.I think you just have a narrow understanding of love.
There are many feelings of love.
Also it´s not strange to love his family.
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>>135894787
>Because he's 4,
Irrelevant because he isn´t behaving like one.
Chachamaru could be 3 and you would still take her seriously.
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>>135894787
He's only 4 because he's a clone. He's physically and mentally 12.
>>135894907
Isn't Chachamaru like 9 years old in the beginning?
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>>135894907
>Robots and humans are the same and have the same mental development
Ok
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>>135894531
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raNGeq3_DtM
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>>135894787
>it's like daughters saying they'll marry Daddy when they grow up
So?Are you saying the feelings a daughter has for her dad which she wants to express in the ultimate sign of love are not real?
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>>135894989
She was 2
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Korean Bro #2 Reporting in.

>>135887751
I've got to leave really soon, but I'll translate the first page. As always, I'm not nearly as fluent as OG Korean Bro #1 so please keep that in mind.

>A medicine that reveals someone's emotions...?
>Yeah
>It's a snack that makes one confess.
>After you eat it, the effects will start in 1 hour
>Whatever you're thinking will be said out loud and this will last for 12 hours.
>However, after eating the medicine, I didn't expect
>That this guy would immediately propose again.
>Of course, that's why earlier, Konoe said that Tota was acting strange... no
>It wasn't the others!!
>I also ate that medicine!
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>>135895007
I'm saying they're misunderstanding what type of love it is, very few girls grow up to still think marrying their dads is the way to go
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Wait is this Negima?
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>>135894992
Yea and 4 year old boys have the body of twelve year olds.
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>>135894992
He's not a normal human though.
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>>135895039
Whoops sorry, konoe and tota are the same person. That one line should be:
>Of course, that's why earlier, Konoe Tota was acting strange.

Who the fuck uses someone first and last name together when referring to them?
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>>135895088
It's Negima's sequel.
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>>135894791
Chapter 312.

Man, I completely forgot about this scene. Kaede is fucking god-tier amongst the normal humans.
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>>135895152
Thanks. Yeah, I fucking love Kaede, she was one of the coolest characters in Negima. Hopefully she'll make an appearance in UQ Holder sometime soon.
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>>135895039
My nigga.
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>>135895263
She becomes Space Ninja in the epilogue to the point she can traverse space without a suit.
She is effectively the most hardcore non-mage in the series.

I always wondered why my compatriot liked Kaede since all I recalled of her was that she was a ninja but the more I recall, the more I realize that the calibur of opponent's she's faced has been much MUCH higher than she should be able to handle.
Given Mana is her rival and Mana is Zazie-tier under select conditions. Kaede is greatly underrated.
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>>135895365
I want Koutarou's descendant to be a disciple of her school or something since she'd dead.
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>>135895365
If I also remember correctly didn't Kaede also take on a possessed Negi, or something along those lines. And she also saved Negi from being killed by the multi-arm dude. I haven't read Negima in years, so I may be wrong.
She's a great character, though.
>>135895412
She isn't dead. She's effectively immortal.
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>>135890131
Comfy parts build familiarity and character attachment.
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>>135895492
>She's effectively immortal.
What?
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>>135895492
Casting revive dead on someone doesn't make them immortal
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>>135895412
That would be weaksauce. Kotaro is probably still alive so he should get his shit together.

>>135895492
She fought an unserious Al. She fought an Averruncus, she basically was the only human to actually not get fucked up in the magical world and Negi had enough sense to leave her by herself in the magical world due to her mad skills.

Kaede is hitting far above her weight class something fierce for a plain and ordinary human.
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>>135895492
>She isn't dead.
>is there with the other dead charakters.
sure
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>>135895571
>That would be weaksauce. Kotaro is probably still alive so he should get his shit together.
Did they talk about the longevity of Youkai in Negima?
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>>135895651
She was considered dead after she was killed by Quintum. She only was able to come back to the normal world when called upon.
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>>135895651
Hey, is it me or Ku Fei isn't among the dead chars?
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>>135895755
Yeah Ku Fei and a bunch of the samller 2-A characters aren't there.
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>>135895661
If they're anything like Demonfolk then they're extended lifespan.
However since I cannot recall any scene which mentions their extended lifespan, I will retract my statement.

>>135895755
If that is specifically all the dead characters in the second panel then yeah, you'd be correct. However Satsuki isn't in that group either.
Satsuki confirmed for inventing Ambrosia.
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>>135895755
Of course who do you think will think will kick negis sorry ass in the tournament!
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>>135895875
Not that anon but everyone knows the Last Boss of Justice is going to come save the Negimaverse.
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>there are people in this thread who will deny that Chachamaru won the Negi bowl
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>>135895755
>>135895815
Wait, you got a point. I need a list who didn't appear in second panel.
Remember when Akamatsu make Zazie demon princess from Venus? After hundreds of chapter? But she's not Zazie? But actually she is Zazie's sister? Honestly, I flip my shit that time.

I won't repeat same mistake. Again.
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>>135896136
Negi never loved her, only screwed her.
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>>135896136
Everyone knows that Negi had no kids by himself yet all of 3-A were impregnated by Chachamaru raping Negi them injecting his semen into the entire class.
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>>135896136
She gets wound up every day, even if she's not main wife she won
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>>135896136
He only screwed her literally, so no, that doesn't count as winning the bowl.
Still pretty good position for her to be in.
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>>135896136
Runner up.
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>>135896136
She's probably still alive too, right? Couldn't you count her as immortal too?
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>>135895651
Why isn't Mana on that list at all? She isn't even seen with the alive characters. What the fuck, Ken?
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>>135896352
We already saw her.
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>>135896352
We already saw her satellite cannon, for what its worth.
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>>135896352
She's literally hanging out with Ayaka. She's been in UQ Holder.
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>>135896352
>probably
We literally saw her some 10 chapters ago
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>>135896367
People from venus arent allowed on the list.
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>>135896452
Please stop the bullying.
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>>135896367
Zazie isn't there either.
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>>135896395
Oh shit, I totally forgot her appearance ten chapters ago. But hey, so did Ken, so who can blame me.
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>>135895571
>Kaede is hitting far above her weight class something fierce for a plain and ordinary human.
But more importantly, she's cute
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>>135896492
That's weird that they're not on the list, considering both Mana and Zazie have made an appearance in UQ already. And they were both apart of Negi's classroom.
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>>135896202
He screwed her so hard, every day in his office.

The perfect Secretary.
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>>135890002
I need it ASAP!
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>>135896831
Maybe he thought that was not necessary because we already knew about their longevity.
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>>135896977
>Magic
>Sorcery
What's the difference?
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>>135897051
Except Chachamaru is still there, and she's considered an immortal (according to Kitty). So I'm still confused on why they're not there. Ken obviously didn't forget they existed, but they're still not there.
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>>135897219
Well Ikku is immortal so it's no surprise she counts too
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>>135897082
One is from Wizards and one is from dirty fucking Sorcerers
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>>135897082
Probably works differently
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>>135897082
You forgot the Black Arts

Though in this case, the differentiation between Western and Eastern magic might have been lost in translation.
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What the fuck ever happened to Rakan?
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>>135897356
Aren't Black Arts usually just forbidden or evil spells? Things like Magia Erebea or that arm attack that demon uses. I guess they aren't very forbidden if you can use them in a public tournament, though.
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>>135897647
He's probably dicking around somewhere as usual
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>>135897661
Depends on the context, "Black Arts" was used for all kinds of magic/whatever the church didn't like.

Though you might be right, but it wasn't translated as such back in Negima.
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>>135890292
Where's this from?

>Inb4 it's from the current chapter
If so then dump
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So why are they in gym clothes at the end of the chapter? Added humiliation?
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>>135897893
from another manga

>7th Garden

shit manga
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I'm beginning to suspect that a few chapters from now I might actually end up liking Karin more than any of the girls from Negima
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>>135898538
Karin is good, but top tier Negi girls are leagues ahead of anyone in UQ, including new Kitty.
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>>135898603
>Including new Kitty
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>>135898663
Kaede, Mana, Ku Fei, and Chachamaru are all much, much better than Yukihime.
And Negima's girls>>>UQ's girls.
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>>135898767
Ah I misunderstood, I thought you were saying new Kitty was among those leagues ahead of everyone
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>>135898767
Negima had too much girls. It's a pretty bad comparison.
>>135898919
But she is.
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>>135899230
>Yukihime
>Better than any of Negima's best girls.
Negima had too many girls, yes, but it still had much better girls than UQ Holder.
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>>135899230
>But she is
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>>135899363
Eva and Ayako not being in your Negima list made your taste questionable already. In UQH, there's only Eva, Kirie and Karin with Kuroumaru if you want. Shinobu and Mizore have just started being relevant and harem elements are getting more important of course Negima girls would be better.
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>>135900027
Ayaka*
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Chisame>Kirie>>>>>>>>>>>>all
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>wake up
>see this thread
>sees all this Kaede love
Thank you anons. She is truly best girl.
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>>135900101
Chisame and Chachamaru was the true end
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>>135900268
>Chisame and Chachamaru

My nig nog.
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>>135900101
Negima: Eva > Yue > Chisame
UQH: Eva > Kirie > Karin
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>>135900580
More like Kirie > Karin > Eva for UQH really
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>>135900580
>>135900715
>Kiriefags
Is it because of chapter 105? You sure are easy to please.
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>>135900779
>Implying it wasn't from 31
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>>135883874
>Koreanbro
I want to ask Koreanbro something.

Does the racial slur "gook" come from the Korean word "hanguk"?

Something related to the thread: KARIN IS HOT there you go
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Yukihime is objectively the worst version of Eva and isn't even the best girl in her own series. Prove me wrong.
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>>135895039
>However, after eating the medicine, I didn't expect
>That this guy would immediately propose again.
Eva underestimating Touta's lust.
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>>135901208
>lust
His love is completely pure.
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>>135901132
Proven.
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>>135901132
This is not about a version ffs. Eva is Eva. Will you say that Mana is no more Mana too?
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>>135901416
Yukihime is as much Eva as Yami is Eve
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>>135901309
Love, lust it's all the same. He would fuck her if he could.
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>>135901316
500 years of continuous hate sex and rape has ruined her vagina so much even transformation magic can't fix it, she means.
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>>135901416
Eva literally got her past retconned like 3 times in this series; one retcon literally takes away how she was in love with Nagi, and replaced it with Touta. Her personality is also all over the place in this manga. Mana is still basically Mana, except a little more outgoing.
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>>135901416
I mean, when you live forever, your personality's bound to change over time.
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>>135901538
Or she fell in love with both Nagi and Touta, but at different times in her life.
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>>135901754
They made it into that she was in love with Tota the entire time and Nagi (and Negi for that matter) was just a temporary replacement for him. She outright says that she was waiting for him for over 500 years. I don't mind small retcons, but the most recent one was extremely bad.
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>>135901864
Please, anyone who isn't a first level reader knows that her love of Nagi was always superficial. There was never any substance to it, and her only "reason" for it seemed to be "he's more powerful than even me". The only question was "Why?" She could have just been a girl crushing on the cute guy because inexperienced (young) girls just do that. Turns out no, she's crushing on him because of a previous love and a prophecy telling her she's supposed to be all up ons with this dude.

It's perfectly consistent.
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>>135883874
Dat everything
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>>135902066
>Turns out no, she's crushing on him because of a previous love and a prophecy telling her she's supposed to be all up ons with this dude.
Remember, this was never a thing until recently. Nagi essentially did what Tota did, by comforting her and being kind to her (although he didn't want a relationship with her at the time). Then the most recent retcon made Tota do what Nagi did, before he did it.
It's definitely not consistent, nor is it a good retcon.
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>>135902066
>>135902218
I also forgot to add Nagi did it, despite everyone treating her like a monster, and disregarding how many people she has killed in her past.
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>>135901538
>Her personality is also all over the place in this manga.
Yeah, it's entirely unreasonable that someone's behavior would be different at points of their life hundreds of years apart in wildly different circumstances.
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>>135902218
So you're saying that Eva is just a slut who'll drop drawers for any dude that says nice things to her, and the only reason she's not 99.9% cum at this point is because her past intimidates most guys from making the easy move for loli sex?
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>>135902318
How long ago was scroll Eva made again? She was basically the same then as she was in most of Negima
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>>135902362
>Being purposefully thick
He's saying someone who reaches out to someone who is normally shunned and feared is usually appreciated, this isn't even news you're just being dumb
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>>135902382
Of those 500 years Touta was late by, approximately 400 occurred before Nagi and Negi and comprised the MURDER MURDER EMO SAD stage of her life.

It's statistically improbable that any previous versions of Eva that aren't from the very beginning (what Touta encounters) or fairly recently (Negi onwards) aren't basically identical to Negima Eva.
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>>135902318
I understand her character should change, but it doesn't change the fact that she's the worst version of Kitty to date, and I don't think Ken even know what he wants to do with her right now.
>>135902362
No I'm just saying the most recent retcon was a shit retcon that needlessly took away a big portion of her backstory for new shipping developments.
And it meant a lot more that Nagi was kind to her, despite her being known as a monster. But that got thrown completely out the window.
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>>135902362
>>135902414
It's not just that she was shunned and feared, she was actively being hunted down. I would assume it was pretty rare for her to meet a guy that wasn't scared shitless of her vampirism or try to turn her in / kill her.
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>>135902500
Eva never seemed to fully accept Tota's litlte prophecies that she'd find an awesome redhead to get girly boners over, or find friends and happiness. She was usually depressed and downtrodden by the time she saw him again. And with hundreds of years between when she last saw (training) Touta and first saw Nagi, she could have easily lost confidence and been genuinely surprised and swept off her feet by what you would naively think she should've seen coming.
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>>135902382
Didn't the scroll partially imitate the image of Eva Negi had in his mind?
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>>135902625
god, it's been too long for me to remember that. Good question.
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>>135902625
No it was made by Eva at the time based on her personality then and just kicks around on it's own whenever she's not summoned
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Do we know what does UQ mean?
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>>135902824
Pronounce "UQ". You basically just pronounced the world "immortal" in Japanese. This is explained almost as soon as UQ Holder is introduced.
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>>135902887
And by world I mean "word". And no, I'm not deleting and reposting that to fix the typo, but I am going to be anal enough to correct myself.
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>>135902914
Didn't even notice until you pointed it out.
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This dude saying it's inconsistent is just trolling.

15 year old girls switch dicks like clothes, a 500 loli baba can't switch dicks twice? Fuckin a
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>>135903535
>Dissenting opinions are just trolls
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>>135903535
>500 loli baba can't switch dicks twice

I don't think that was his point.
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>>135903535
But it is inconsistent and a huge retcon. It was needlessly added for blatant shipping and took away a big part of her character. Ken made Tota do exactly what Nagi did, then made it so she was in love with Tota. It's not about her falling for someone else, it's about how poorly executed it was. She was originally in love with Nagi, then was falling for Negi, then Tota came in and reconnected the past. So now a lot of interaction ad development Nagi, Negi & Kitty had together become null.
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>>135903794
>So now a lot of interaction ad development Nagi, Negi & Kitty had together become null.

Welcome to Time Travel Shenanigans, Inc.!

Negima had enough issues with this junk as it was. UQ Holder was just in the path of the snowball and had to keep rolling.
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>>135903603
I believe genuine dissenting opinions are opinions based on logic. That anon's opinion was just brain dead.

How does Touta become a retcon when there was no reason for Eva to tell everyone that she fell for a doll 400 years ago? This dude either just don't know how falling in love feels or he's putting in A+ effort to troll.

>>135903794
>falling for Negi
She never did

>She was originally in love with Nagi, then Tota came in and reconnected the past
What, a person can't forget who they originally fell for now?

Eva forgot about Touta on her trip outside the world and fell for Negi maybe because of the suggestion Touta gave. Her subconscious made her do it. But she never forgot Touta completely. It's the same exact story as Rurouni Kenshin's. Kenshin's wife Tomoe died and when they visited her grave after Kaoru told Kenshin never to forget her. It's that kinda shit man, it's just weirder because Eva's an immortal.
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>>135904042
Negima fucked with timelines a lot too, but never did anything as bad for character development as this. And just because Negima did it, doesn't mean UQ should do it too. It's a poor justification for this retcon.
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>>135900779
Are you implying Kiri'e arc wasn't good and had decent character development? Isn't the point of having character arcs is to make them even better?

So far Kirie is so far ahead of the others and is only beaten by Eva who got her arc from the timefuckery with Dana that was great.
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>>135904133
>fell for Negi
I meant Nagi
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I don't read this manga but, do u maybe know what's with Korean-bro1? just asking.
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>>135902824
UQ
Yukyuu
Immortal
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>>135904272
>>135883874
+ oh, and also be good and don't let the thread die, as soon as translate arrive dump edited chapter here, like in the other manga from Korean release.
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>>135904133
You don't know what a retcon is, do you? Look up the word and come back.
>How does Touta become a retcon when there was no reason for Eva to tell everyone that she fell for a doll 400 years ago? This dude either just don't know how falling in love feels or he's putting in A+ effort to troll.
Because Kitty being in love from Touta from the begining is literally a retcon, regardless of your opinions on it. Touta wasn't a thing in Negima, only Nagi and Negi were. She was in love with Nagi from the start, until time shenanigans during the training arc happened. She was never in love with Touta from the beginning, until recently; this is a new ham fisted retcon Ken gave us so he could lazily make Kitty fall in love with Touta, without putting in actual character interaction and development.
>She never did
Yes she did. Her backstory in Negima made it very clear her first love was Nagi, due to him being kind to her, despite being treated and hunted down like a monster. But now, with the retcon, of her being in love with Touta, a majority of her backstory is Null.
>What, a person can't forget who they originally fell for now?
Again, you're acting like this was ALWAYS a thing. Remember Touta was not a thing in Negima; she was originally in love with Nagi, but that was recently disregarded and erased.
You either don't seem to understand what a retcon is, and/or you're ignoring the fact that she was in love with Nagi from the start, until Ken sloppily changed her past.
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>>135904835
>Nagi
And exactly why was she in love with him?
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>>135902887
It's eternity, not immortal
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>>135904932
Holy fuck I, and others explained this like 4 times in this thread, and this was obvious information in Negima. This was introduced and made clear early on with her backstory. They already showed and explained why she was in love with him. The fact is she wanted a relationship with Nagi, regardless of your opinion.
I really hope you're not this stupid.
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>>135901132
teh durkness angle of d00m kitty > Eva = Kitty > Yukihime
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>>135902887
>>135904455

Fuck me, I didn't know that. Thanks.
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>>135904521
There's no really need to have scans translated from korean, you just have to wait three days for an actual jp>eng translation.
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>>135905352
see >>135905105
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>>135904932
Fell over a cliff.
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>>135905105
Correct. Thus, it's eternity holders. Those who hold eternity. A roundabout way of identifying immortals.
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>>135905385

u r right for one thing, and that's that translate is ALWAYS better if it's from original script, not from any other. i'm just sayin if someone wants to translate it, the other should make edited version as soon as few pages are translated. Then I guess it's not the case with this manga.
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>>135905429
She looks teenager to early 20's in that bottom right panel.
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>>135905978
She was using her adult form for that confrontation, so you aren't wrong.
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>>135905978
Pills.
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>>135906183
So Eva just wants to consume him and take his power for her self. It's only when she realizes that she can't defeat him and he'll always kick her ass no problem that she goes all lovey-dovey, taking a different tack to gain control of his power. Classical abused woman.
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>>135904835
not him but
I always thought that despite UQ Holder being a sequel to Negima, it happens in an alternative timeline. Why can't it be so simple that Eva in UQ is an alternate version of Eva from Negima, thus making her past a possible alternation from the one she had in Negima?
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>>135906505
Although, we're not sure what Negima timeline it's in, we're positive it's a canon sequel. Ken even said it's the definite sequel to Negima. UQ Holder was also hinted to at the end of Negima, when it talked about 3-1's, and Kitty's future.
And it's not a different, Eva, her past just got changed.
While I came off hostile, I'm not entirely against Touta x Kitty, I just don't like how poorly done and stupid the the retcon was.
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>>135906742
I still like it.

It doesn't make sense to me that someone hardened by literally hundreds of years of strife, misery, loneliness, betrayal, murder, and all of the life's worst shit--and, importantly, that this was true for her entire life, as her life has always been god-awful crap even before the life maker transformed her--could just go lovey-dovey ultra-dere mode in such a brief period. There needed to be something to act as the catalyst: a previous love, or otherwise some reason to believe in love. Enter Touta, who gives her both--she loved him, and he filled her mind with visions of a future that's happy and promises a deep love for her.

I think you have to be fairly non-critical of Eva's centuries of experience to just blindly accept she falls in love for the first time ever in practically the blink of an eye. I think we accepted it mostly because we accepted that Negi was a pussy-magnet (because reasons), and it seemed Nagi kind of was, too.

I think this works better. Instead of Eva falling prey to the irresistible pussy magnets of the Springfield lineage just because that's what they do, she's been prepped ahead of time and taught love and hope at a point in her existence when this was still plausible.
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>>135906505
Negima splits into multiple timelines over the course of the manga, and in particular at the end, so that's obvious. There isn't just one negima timeline to begin with.
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>>135907291
>I think you have to be fairly non-critical of Eva's centuries of experience to just blindly accept she falls in love for the first time ever in practically the blink of an eye. I think we accepted it mostly because we accepted that Negi was a pussy-magnet (because reasons), and it seemed Nagi kind of was, too.
Nagi was definitely a pussy magnet, sure, but that wasn't why she fell in love with him. She was treated like a monster for decades upon decades, and Nagi saves her life without second guess; that alone can make her like someone. And remember, she didn't fall in love on the spot, she and Nagi spent months together, where Nagi was nothing but nice to her. Despite her being treated by a monster by everyone else, Nagi was the only one who was kind and gave her hope for a better future.
>I think this works better. Instead of Eva falling prey to the irresistible pussy magnets of the Springfield lineage just because that's what they do, she's been prepped ahead of time and taught love and hope at a point in her existence when this was still plausible.
Nagi did literally the same thing as Touta, albeit a lot of it was off-screen. I'm just upset that Touta did almost a 1 for 1 of what Nagi did, but in the past. And remember, Tota did this just because he liked Eva, and knew nothing of her past. When Nagi did it, he knew she had killed people and was considered a monster. I simply think Nagi's was done better and first, but it ended up meaningless and retconed.
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>>135907618
Just wait until the next Time Shenanigans reveals that Nagi treated her nicely because of advanced knowledge from the future, and that in the timeline where he wasn't told this he was a ruthless ass to her.

God, I made myself sad with that thought.
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>>135907618
>I'm just upset that Touta did almost a 1 for 1 of what Nagi did, but in the past
Touta's general company and confession helped her in a much different way than Nagi's education and companionship did. Just knowing that a person could fall in love with her must have felt great, especially when she'd been constantly shunned and hunted by everyone else she'd met. Having someone accept her in such a way was a fairly large deal.
>Tota did this just because he liked Eva, and knew nothing of her past
While it was like that at first, even after he found out his feeling stayed the same.
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