How can other studios even compete? Are they even trying anymore?

>>135822765
The difference isn't that huge

When did Kyoani's budget get so stupid big?

>>135822765
Compared to the other one, Kyoani apparently has their F-Stop wide open.

P.A. does really good work though. Have you even seen Ano Hana? Animation was just as good as any Kyoani work.

>>135822906
>PA
>ano hana
The fuck?

>>135822960
Baito desu

So adding a blur filter to the background makes KyoAni more capable or better in any way?
You fags are delusional.
Second shot has way better composition btw.

They should put a moratorium on all instrument related music anime for any studio not named Kyoani. They'll never do it as well as Hibike and would just embarrass themselves.

The instruments in Hibike don't even look like they're part of the same world as everything else in the show. The art just doesn't fit.

>>135823006
>depth of field is bad
Fag.

KyoAni has the best overall aesthetics, and it's not even close.

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>>135823099
>They'll never do it as well as Hibike

Have you people even watched either of these shows? Instruments is the only thing they have in common. They're completely different.

This reminds me of people shitposting in YuYuYu threads about how it was a Madoka ripoff because they'd never seen mahou shoujo before.

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No one can match GodAni

>>135823113
>DOF
>blurring details is good
Let your own vision do its own natural DOF, faggot. You are literally wasting power to remove details that are already there.

>>135822906
Most studios have good animation. Hell even JC staff can do sakuga when they don't have to worry about complex characters and backgrounds.

>>135822765
>P.A. Works
Not a single title worth watching
>Kyoani
Hasn't made anything good in almost a decade

I think you meant how can they even compete.

>>135823113
>applying the same blur to all the background regardless of distance
>DOF

As expected of KyoAnifags.

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>>135823171
People shitposted in Hibike! threads for weeks calling it a K-ON! clone
It happens to everything

>>135822765
>That highly detailed shading on Chika's hair compared to the simplistic shading on Kumiko's hair

KYOANI BTFO

>>135823299
>>135823397
>visual effects are bad
>>>/v/

>>135822765
Needs moar Gonzo.

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>>135822765
>How can other studios even compete?
By having cuter MCs.

>>135822765
what kyoani show is that??

>>135822765
Holy fuck the bottom has shit colors and the girl is hideous

>>135823643
K-On! Joins the Highschool Band!

>>135822807
Neither character is integrated well, but it stands out a lot more with HaruChika because they didn't blur the background.

>>135823498
>all visual effects are good
Is your favorite anime a literal black screen for 30 minutes because you just love the 100% vignette visual effect?

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>>135823697
Then they have the sequel
K-on! Joins the Military!

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>>135823818
Don't forget about K-ON! experiment's with bullying

>>135823643
>Hibike! Euphonium
>Drama
>Musical

Well, that sucks

>>135823099
>we animated the instruments well, that means we have the best show
No.

>>135823742
But that's because they used a different lens for each, so the depth-of-field differs

>PA Works
>Produces tons of ANIME ORIGINAL content
>Adapts actual NOVELS, even though this has proven to be risky in the past
>Gives them interesting, good-looking, memorable character designs
>Draws gorgeous, detailed scenery that perfectly compliments the characters
>Carefully voice casts all of their characters to the point of perfection
>Original soundtracks that stand the test of time
>The only studio that literally never resorts to cheap fanservice
>Because they take risks, they are hit and miss, producing an equal amount of masterpieces and flops

>KyoAni
>Takes already popular, safe source material
>Puts their sameface on it and paints it with their all-purpose KyoAni moe brush
>Same hentai-tier voice acting where if you close your eyes you can't tell which character is talking
>Soundtrack that blends into the background and is impossible to notice
>Pushes it out their production line
>Still living off the success of the only masterpiece they ever made

I can't imagine that people seriously compare these two studios

>>135823975
It still doesn't look good. To be fair, it's not as bad in full screen, but seeing it in that thumbnail really makes it seem sloppy.

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Just a friendly reminder that colors are important.

>>135824059
>The only studio that literally never resorts to cheap fanservice
I don't get why you included this. All the other things you listed are positives.

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>>135823894
Oh how could I forget it?
Remember the prequel K-On! The Adolescent Days!!

>>135822765
Basically, PA works is too lazy to adjust the color after pictures are superimposed

>>135823299
Are you retarded? 2D>3D exactly because of removing detail.

>>135824059
>The only studio that literally never resorts to cheap fanservice
They two studios who literally depend on the otaku waifu lolicon market to stay afloat. Cheap fan service is all they do.

>>135824073
Can I get the cliffnotes as to why 16-235 is better than 0-255?

>>135824073
Jesus they all look like sheet ghosts in Funi

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>>135824162
I hope you aren't implying that KyoAni didn't literally invent moe

>>135824059
PA Works
>no noteworthy directors
>mediocre productions
>stiff and weightless animation
>outsourced backgrounds
>ugly designs
>more shit than good
FTFY

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>>135824059
Lucky Star, K-On, High Speed, Hibike, KnK, Amaburi, Phantom World, Hyoka, Chuu2, and to some extent Haruhi weren't even on the map before they did the adaptations.

Hibike is a novel, not LN.

The rest is subjective opinion. I like KyoAni design better than anything PA Flops has shat before.

>>135824059
PA Works is the better studio but KyoAni is more visually appealing by far.

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>>135824059
Truth

>>135822765
>funimation fuckign up the colors
FUck you get a better image to compare.

>>135824211
>2D>3D exactly because of removing detail.
Do you watch your anime in 140p in the RealMedia codec?

>>135823291
Shaft? Obviously it's not going to be the same type of good as kyoani, but it should still be on the same level, right?

>>135823099
Sakamichi no Apallon and Shigatsu had good music perfomance scenes though, arguably better then Eupho.
Hell even JC Staff had Nodame.

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>>135824281
In what universe is PA Flops a better studio?

>>135824318
>Shaft

You mean Monogatari: The Studio?

>>135824073
>all look literally the same
Am I being trolled here?

>>135824248
because 16-235 show the correct colors and 0-255 show wrong colors?

>>135824073
Damn, when even your "fixed" version looks worse than fucking OHYS, you know you fucked up.

How can anyone tolerate funi? Putting yourself through that isn't worth watching whatever show you want to watch, regardless of how good it is. I'd rather not watch a show at all than watch funishit.

>>135824059
>>The only studio that literally never resorts to cheap fanservice

Did you completely forget the Glasslip scene where Ribbons walks around naked?

>>135824346
Since they made masterpieces like RDG, Glasslip, and Charlotte of course

>>135824394
All sub-par flops. Only blind Maedafags liked Charloshit.

>>135824262
No, but they decided instead of having just a couple moe characters in a show to replace the entire main cast with moeblobs. Turning the Comedy/SoL genera into the generic moeshit we get today.

>>135823171
>implying YuYuYu wasn't a direct result of Madoka's popularity
I'm not saying they're the same and indeed I liked YuYuYu for what it did differently than Madoka but it most definitely was riding on Madoka's coattails.

>>135822842
When they decided to not hand over their hard earned cash to kadokawa

>>135824073
>that CG crowd

Bravo

>>135824248
It isn't better, it just helps undo Funi's color fuckery.

>>135824385
Which is why Senketsu Subs exists.

>>135824336
>Shigatsu
>Good performance scenes
Boy do I love being told how amazing the music in this scene is. Doesn't break my suspension of disbelief at all.

>>135824381
I'm genuinely curious and know nothing about codecs or colorspace or whatever it is that that relates to. I just see the numbers and 0-255 sounds like it encapsulates more things than 16-235 so how would less be more correct?

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>>135824424
>not getting the sarcasm
Embarrassing

>>135824346
The universe where PA Works made Hanasaku Iroha, True Tears, Nagi no Asukara, Angel Beats, Shirobako, and Another.

>b-but Angel Beats is flawed!

Endless Eight

>>135824424
That's the joke.

>>135824469
But how can people be so impatient to not wait for Senketsu Subs? It just boggles the mind.

>>135822975
What does a part-time job have to do with anything?

>>135824484
Funimation converts it to 16-235 to save space so when you try to play it on 0-255 it looks all wrong. If you set your player to 16-235, it'll display the colors properly.

>>135824484
This is simplified, but here you go:
Good video has brightness ranging from 0 to 255. Mediocre video has brightness ranging from 16-235 (funi). If you try to play a 16-235 video when your video player is thinking it is playing a 0-255 video, then shit gets fucked.

>>135824510
None can compare to masterpieces such as K-On, Hyoka, Clannad, Haruhi, Chuu2 S1, Nichijou, Hibike, or Fumoffu.

The only work that PA has done that could even compete with KyoAni is Uchouten Kazoku.

Comparing P.A. Works and KyoAni is like comparing Citizen Kane and Blue's Clues.

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>>135824610
>masterpieces such as K-On, Hyoka, Clannad, Haruhi, Chuu2 S1, Nichijou, Hibike, or Fumoffu
People actually believe this.

>>135824545
I think most people think opening a subtitle file is an olympic hurdle.

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>>135824657
Retards actually believe PA Flops is a good studio

>>135824595
>>135824560
Ah. So how do you find out if there was this conversion error? Just because it looks wrong?

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>>135824697
Dat QUALITY tho.

>>135824747
Because it's plainly obvious to anyone autistic enough like me who can't unsee it in literally every single funi rip in existence.

>>135824610
Does KyoAni really get credit for Clannad? Any studio that adapted it would have made a great anime unless they failed incredibly. The source material is still better. And that's not just because of the change of format... sometimes VN adaptations do justice to their source material.

>>135824390
You got that far into Glasslip?

>>135824779
I can accept that. Cheers mate

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Since KyoAni is the unanimous best studio, who would you say is number 2?

>>135822765
Haruchika's coloring just looks so washed out. How did anyone in the production process think that washed-out glare looked good?

>>135824908
Silver Link.

>>135824841
Keyshit VNs are vastly inferior to KyoAni's adaptations and that is common knowledge. Maeda is a garbage writer and a hack, just look at shows that weren't under KyoAni's golden touch, Little Busters, Charlotte, Angel Beats.

>>135824911
PA Works anime looking washed out isn't really anything new.

Can't we just enjoy both studios?

>>135824911
That's not what HaruChika looks like, that's what Funi's retarded release of it looks like. Refer to >>135824073

>>135824908
Madhouse, of course.

>>135824926
Still #1 in the department of bullying___ though

I thought Tamako Market was stupid but recently I've been thinking I failed to properly appreciate it. It's one of the few original things the studio made. I'm beginning to feel guilty for even acknowledging LN shit exists because discussing it draws attention which, in a butterfly effect way, could boost its popularity and success. My hands aren't clean in regard to the killing of anime at the hands of LN publishers. As an ethical decision, I favor PA Works more highly because of this train of thought.

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I haven't watch anything from Kyoanus since I dropped Clannad while it was airing. I haven't watched Shaft shit since Under the Bridge either.

Their direction doesn't appeal to me as they both come across as soap opera melodrama shite.

>>135824997
The correction is only slightly less washed out and is equally as flat.

>>135825079
Well, as long as you're talking about the correct version and not funishit, your opinion is your opinion.

PA Works has this kind of coloring in a lot of their shows.

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I don't get it. PA Works has made some really good-looking shows. Shirobako was one of the most vibrant anime of 2014-15.

How do they even produce something like Haruchika?

Aside from the colours it looked fine though.

>>135825115
I wish they'd get better art directors.

>>135824908
toei, of course

>>135825115
> PA Works has this kind of coloring in a lot of their shows.
I recall Charlotte EP1 having better color palette, why didn't they go with that again?

>>135825123
should've made more shirobako seasons...

>>135825383
If Anonymous is to be trusted, they have 2 teams and the good one is working on the 15th anniversary show.

>>135824560
>to save space
How do their rips manage to be more bloated than CR rips then?

>>135825462
I doubt we'll get more Shirobako. PA Works knows when to put something to rest. They aren't going to rest on their laurels the way some other studios do.

>>135824347
Are you dumb enough to forget about Madoka?

>>135822765
I wish they made PAW girl's hair less weird. She looks like an alien with it.

>>135825627
They also never made a season 2 before.

>>135824841
Key is nothing without Kyoani.

Look at JC Staff, Toei, and PA Works. Eventually 8-bit will join them.

>>135825383
>>135825123
>>135825079
The person you have to complain about is probably Katsue Inoue.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=475

The thing is, she did the same job for Shirobako so if you don't like this show's colors but like Shirobako's, well, probably has to do with the director.

>>135825879l
Shirobako had pretty bad colours too

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Why you guys still care Kyoanifags.

>>135825970

Agreed. Hibike was boring shit, almost Glasslip tier but gets praised here because of

>muh yuri

>>135825627
>Progressive Animation Works
They don't want to milk their brand, they always try something new even it may end up flop, but even flop like Glasslip won't stop them to do more originals.

They're PlatinumGames of anime.

>>135825970
This.

>>135825970
Where's the chromatic aberrations?

>>135824510
Angel Beats is the best anime on your list, followed by Shirobako. True Tears was ruined by heroine choice, Iroha was pretty scenery-wise and character-wise but even more FUCKING NOTHING happening than the most mindless Kyoani show and Another was incredibly forgetable.

What's really funny is Iroha and Angel Beats would have been way better by Kyoani. The characters would actually feel animated.

What KyoAni made in two animes, PA Works did in one. PA Works is efficient, unlike KyoAni.

>>135825970

>glasslip

Even kyoanis worst show isn't even as half bad as glasslip

>>135826148
>PlatinumGames of anime

Wouldn't that be a company that wants to do sequels but can't get funding for them because the originals didn't sell?

>>135826684
And yet still many publisher find them to make games.

>>135822765
WHERE DO I FIND THEIR BUDGET PER PROJECT? HOW WOULD I COMPARE THEM IF I LACK OF THESE INFORMATION?

>>135827063
They both have average budgets.

>>135826404
But I don't want another Shinka or Mio clone.

>>135825123
haruchika is the show sandwiched between Charlotte and Kuromukuro, a project in celebration of their 15th anniversary, which they will definitely labor on. the scheduling was bad luck for Haruchika, it will not get their best effort because of time constraints.

>>135827103
How? What are the determinants for Kyoani having such detailed and top notch animation? How does budget affect the whole process in animation? Where do I get the answers?

>>135825123
Charlotte is a much better looking show, tho. And haruchika looks crap because its a B project for them while they cook their next original hit.

>>135827138
Friendly reminder Kuromukuro will be the P.A. Work's first step outside of their comfort zone by doing their first anime original mecha and without any single Mari Okada on the sight.

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>>135827195
>And haruchika looks crap because its a B project for them while they cook their next original hit
I seriously think it will be a flop but will watch for the ride.

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>>135827138
Phantom World is sandwiched between the Free Movie, Hibike s2 and Koe no Katachi but it looks pretty good

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>>135827063
You can't you just make assumptions based on the animators and directors they have for the project. For KyoAnus case it's easier to assume their budgets are always the same since they rarely outsource and keep their directors in house. Follow people from the industry on twitter they usually give hints on how big a project is. But on average the budget for a normal 1 cour show is around 2 million dollars, expenses aren't obviously paid by the studio alone there are a lot of investors involved in a show and they all take their share for BD, music discs, merchandise shit like that.

>>135827210
Okada is doing an original anime with Shirobako-kun. Horror/mystery I believe.

Please be more like xxxHolic and not Another

It's great they have style, but too bad they never have substance
Maybe if it wasnt just pretty animation their anime would be interesting for more than 3 episodes

>>135827210
There are many PA shows without Okada.

>>135823299
>Let your own vision do its own natural DOF
>on a flat screen

>>135823349
>>P.A. Works
>Not a single title worth watching
They have one. Funnily enough, it's the one show they didn't try to be KyoAni with, Uchouten Kazoku.

>>135824453
Naw. Kodakawa paid them, not the other way around. And that's when they eventually decided to do their own stuff. They saw what Kodakawa was making. And TBS.

>>135827323
PW looks very good for a filler show. I think their only meh looking show was Free.

>>135823945
It does both things great, so what's the matter?

>>135827359
Yes but set in the usual coming-of-age, slice of life. This time is an original without her with a diferent genre: mecha.

>>135827260
A 15th anniversary original project flopping would be embarrassing. It'd be like if Space Dandy or Captain Earth had flopped for Bones.

Wait...

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>>135824610
>Chuu
>S2

>>135827337
How come no one has written the holy grail of anime industrial organization until now. That person is really losing money.

>>135827429
Uchouten Kazoku was their only show that didn't look like the typical bland PA Works production.

>>135827472
>>135827210
>P.A. Work's first step outside of their comfort zone

What comfort zone? PA Works' second show was Canaan, an action show. Three shows later they did Another, a horror mystery. Yes, a mecha show is a first for PA Works but they're a studio that are always trying new things to begin with.

>>135822765
Kyoani will never be beaten on animation but they are sell outs (fuckin shit free! movie that no one asked for or wanted) and refuse to leave high school settings alone like damn they could make amazing adventure or fantasy anime with that budget and animation b u t always stay with moe blob high-school seven demons

>>135827472
Okada is irrelevant for PA Works. Their biggest successes are always under Maeda helm.

In before bawww muh nagi no asukara. It was a blunder, deal with it

>>135827501
>i can't read

>>135827536
Canaan and Another were not originals.

>>135827549
>Their biggest successes are always under Maeda helm.

Hah, Charlotte didn't even come close to Shirobako. It's not Okada either but it's certainly not Maeda.

>>135822765
The difference in love is very distinct.

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Why are stringsfags so underrepresented in anime?

>>135827518
it's pretty tight knit for some reason, budgets and industry secrets etc are never released. Heck the only time we found out how bad a company is doing is when they go bankrupt like Manglobe

>>135827583
Canaan was. Another wasn't.

>>135827521
it was also one of their worst peforming shows, did like 1700 BD average

>>135827589
And shitobako didn't even come close to Angel Beats.

>>135827549
It's not about sucess. Personally I think the reason P.A. Works went melodrama stories it's because of her influence. Their next big project can be seen as an effort to trying to grew from their past history.

>>135827537
They are taking a lesson from Toei. Make shit for normalfag kids. And let's face it, if you want to make money in this business, that's what you do.

>>135827583
Canaan is a weird pseudo-sequel to Type-Moon's guest route in the 428 visual novel but it's not an adaptation of it.

Another is an adaptation, sure, but it's littered with anime original shit.

>>135827609
Who knows? Because they would be a hell of a lot easier to draw and animate.

>>135827647
You might've had a point if you said their biggest success was under Maeda, but saying their biggest successes are always under Maeda helm is blatantly false.

>>135827637
But what were the TV ratings? That's how you measure success.

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Nichijou showed us how much potential kyoani had then they went right back into shit mode

>>135827648
>mecha without melodrama

>>135827609
More obvious when the fingering isn't right.

>>135827702
Chuu2's first season was good.

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>>135827701
asking for TV ratings is what you do when your sales are bad

>>135822765
Hibike : Main character in club because they love music

Haruchika : Main character in club because they want sensei dick

VERY PROGRESSIVE INDEED

>>135827742
>Haruchika : Main character in club because they want sensei dick
They actually stated in the episode that this wasn't the case.

>>135824059
>PA Works
>Adapts actual NOVELS, even though this has proven to be risky in the past
Hyouka and Hibike are also novels, PA isn't the only one
>Gives them interesting, good-looking, memorable character designs
You're saying this like KyoAni didn't animate Haruhi, Konata, Chidori, Chitanda, Azu-nyan, etc. PA's only memorable design is Benten, literally.
>Draws gorgeous, detailed scenery that perfectly compliments the characters
Their characters look like stickers glued onto a painting, their shows look like shit because of this. Flat (and bad) colors, badly handled photography, etc. Uchouten Kazoku is the exception because their backgrounds weren't their typical style.
>Carefully voice casts all of their characters to the point of perfection
There's not one KyoAni show where the VA cast isn't flawless.
>Original soundtracks that stand the test of time
I wonder how many "I can't think of an actual argument" points you're going to pull out of your ass. "Stand the test of time", very funny.
>The only studio that literally never resorts to cheap fanservice
There's a montage going around about this, I don't have it though.
>Because they take risks, they are hit and miss, producing an equal amount of masterpieces and flops
More like because they're shit. Their only masterpiece is UK.

>KyoAni
>Takes already popular, safe source material
Yeah their LN label sure is popular, that's why they're pushing so hard to advertise it, right?
>Puts their sameface on it and paints it with their all-purpose KyoAni moe brush
PA's mecha anime has designs blatantly taken out of NnA, they do it all the time.
>Same hentai-tier voice acting where if you close your eyes you can't tell which character is talking
lie.
>Soundtrack that blends into the background and is impossible to notice
that's what an ost is supposed to do
>Pushes it out their production line
What the fuck does this even mean?
>Still living off the success of the only masterpiece they ever made
lie, also irrelevant

>>135827732
Sales are just icing on the cake. It's like a pleasant surprise. There's a reason it's on TV for free.

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>>135827710
Why don't artists/animators actually learn the violin and then make an anime about it? What's so hard with that?

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Kuromukuro looks nice but I wanted a Planet Valkyrie anime (without Aoki because his name lost value after the aldnoha fiasco)

>>135827701
TV ratings for late night anime are irrelevant. Most of them can't even reach a single point.

>>135827704
Yeah but we can tell it's going to be different form the usual and won't be the focus.

>>135827766
What?

>>135827780
It's fun when you put all that effort after taking the bait.

>>135827701
>But what were the TV ratings? That's how you measure success.

>That's how you measure success.
>TV ratings
Kid, you have no idea how stupid the things you say are.

>>135827845
Kyonani doesn't do late night anime. I don't know about PA Works. Kyoani's best shows were shows that TBS licensed rights too then paid Kyoani to adapt for TV.
I think watching K-on make all that cash for TBS helped them decide to go it alone.

>**4,217位/**3,994位 (***,*40 pt) [*,**0予約] 2016/03/25 ハルチカ ~ハルタとチカは青春する~ 第1巻 [Blu-ray]
Everyone go home. P.A Works getting fucked as always. ;_;

>>135827945
Wasn't Eupho late night?

>>135827940
Nope. Late anime is shit manga publishers pay studios to adapt. They sell manga and merch. The other shows get aired in primetime or morning and they make their cash from TV.
Shit, Lucky Star was a Sunday night primetime TV show. And TBS owns it, not Kyoani. You fucks don't even know half of what's going on in the industry.

>>135827807
Because they are busy working in animation. KyoAni got lucky because some already knew about instruments and they got the chance to see some students in their natural habitat.

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>>135827884
What?

>>135827976

For comparison

>***,297位/***,310位 (***,139 pt) [*,**0予約] 2016/04/06 無彩限のファントム・ワールド 1 [Blu-ray]

>>135827945
Nice baito lad. The only time one of KyoAni shows got into a regular slot was with Nichijou rerun and got pretty much the same rating it had during its first fun.

Only shows like pokemon, shin Chan, doraemon, or that other pokemon clone get prime time TV slots and their rating is around 15 to 7 points. Compare it to your average late night anime which is . 3

>>135827780
I like how among all that bait you left out and ignored the one undeniable truth he said which is that PA Works produces tons of anime originals which is why they're so based.

Meanwhile KyoAni did Tamako Market and uh, Munto? Then a bunch of adaptations.

>>135828051
Bullshit. You should start watching the extras on DVDs and BDs. Many have the TV commercials with air dates and times.

>>135828069
I left it out because there was nothing to say about it, what's the matter?

Why is Kyoani so much better at animation than every other studio?

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It is pretty lame that PA works decided to do a similar show after Euphonium.

Give us more NNA stuff already.

>>135828155
Bones has the best animators

>>135827976
Well they already get money from Kadokawa, so it really doesn't matter unlike their originals.

>>135828068
Pachinko is saving anime!

>>135828155
Your delusion

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>>135828046

>>135828203
Let me tell you a secret
their originals are Kadokawa's property too

>>135824908
deen

>>135824908
>DUDE BRIGHT COLORS LMAO
>unanimous best studio

Well meme'd my hipster friend.

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Where's my NagiAsu sequel/movie/spinoff/ova

>>135828364
Sorry but Kuromukuro is Ponycan, recently Shirobako was Warner, Charlotte was Aniplex.

>>135828019
Who even watches prime time or early morning anime? They're usually shonen garbage with 1000 of episodes like DBZ, Gintama, Conan or One Piss or kiddie shit like Calimero or Future Card

>>135823686
Blame Funimation.

>>135828155
> Why is Kyoani so much better at animation than every other studio?
They're better in the sense that they produce consistent quality within a show. If you pay attention to end-of-episode credits in KyoAni shows, you'll notice that the number of animators are significantly lower than the industry average. This means one animator works on more cuts in an episode, producing consistent animation. This also implies proper scheduling on their part.

This is, as I see it, the secret to KyoAni's quality.

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>>135828417
If we're talking bright colors that goes to SHAFT buddy.

>>135828515
the point is, they're not really "PA Works originals" they're "Kadokawa/PC/Aniplex/Warner originals", PA Works may be somewhere in the committee as animation production or maybe a bit higher up if they had a bit more influence, but they're not the owners per se of the franchises, and they aren't free to make more just because they wish to, and they certainly aren't the main investors in those shows, so their original anime isn't much more costly to them than their adaptions.

do however notice I am pulling this information out of my ass, but I believe my intuition is correct

>>135828583
No, they are

DUDE POWERPOINT AND WALLTEXT LMAO

Bright colors are associated to kyoani because they only churn polished turds

Bones and Madhouse probably have the best animators, or the best at doing action sequences. But I feel that KyoAni has the most consistent shows. Their shit is always ranging from decent to good and we rarely see QUALITY, if at all. With other studios you can tell when they run out of budget.

>>135828749
Madhouse only has the best animators when they borrow them from Bones.

>>135824073
tfw my new monitor is too damn bright to see the differences

And my old monitor has a yellow tint

Kyoani- Haruhi S3 when
P.A. Works - Pie

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>>135824390
>watching glasslip

>>135828623
Sorry again but only Charlotte was right, Shirobako and Kuromukuro are PA Works IP.

PA Works has given me more shows that moved me.

HanaIro
Tari Tari
NagiAsu

>>135829078
Charlotte is their IP too, retard. Being in partnership with Key and Aniplex doesnt remove them from the equation.

>>135828623
http://blog.livedoor.jp/anime_in/tag/PAWORKS

Haruchika:
PA is 2nd.
Charlotte:
PAis 3rd
Shirobako:
PA is 1st
Glasslip:
PA is 6th

>>135829124
The Charlotte official site said it's VisualArts/Key's IP though.

This is strangely the most civil bait thread I've seen yet.

P.A.Works 26 episodes new anime filled with love triangles, suffering and tears when?

>>135829286
Only the concept, Key didnt create Charlotte alone.

>>135824318
Find me a single hand drawn background done by shaft in their flagship series in the last 5 years.

Not sure if it's just funi being shit but the whole show seems overly bright and the coloring is kind of pale.

>>135824059
>Takes already popular, safe source material
If it's one thing they did right it's the massively popularity boost they did to any source materials they touched.

>>135827195
Despite everything (like Glasslip), I'm still very appreciative that 2 studios namely PA Works and Bones still gun for original series despite the obvious risks.

Hyouka is quite simply the worst thing to happen to anime ever. Its forced profundity has caused thousands of people all over the world to force themselves to like what is quite simply nothing more than an exercise in style.

Takemoto has no idea what he is doing here. His show jumps around with little to no sense of unity. The great animation directors of the world create a series of events that contain clarity of information, something Takemoto couldn't bet his life on.

What is the purpose of what is going on here? Is there any coherent message? I have heard suggestions that it is Yonezawa's message about responsibilities, expectations and life's trivialities, but what is the point of that? Does Yonezawa even know?

This is Transformers for the 'art' anime crowd. Pure style over substance. Nobody actually likes this series, they just like to be seen liking it.

>>135830037
>pasta this obvious

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>>135822765
>>135828033
Why are the fucking colors off again?
Did HS stop applying that filter that corrected the color space from the Funi rips?

>>135828068
I'd really like to know how significant the pachinko revenue was in the years before 2008.

>>135823299
it's in a 2D tv, your vision can't do that.
oh wait this is a troll, no one is this stupid.

>>135830675
Dunno if it's shitposting but apparently funi's 1080 is the best choice somehow. But thats coming from faggots at nyaa

Where Euphonium pleased my eyes when the photo filter wasn't too heavy, P.A. Works raped my vision with the washed out colors. The bad lip-sync and awkward body movements didn't help.

>>135824059
this is so true and everyone stating otherwise cant handle facts.

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I don't care for PA Works all that much, aside from two things I have disliked or have been bored by their works. Their visuals are all too often downright dull with designs/art styles that insult my eyes too.

>>135834119
NnA looked nice though.

KYOANI FINDS A WAY

>>135834227
I thought it was the biggest offender of what I complained about. It had some nice backgrounds but the characters didn't really fit with them, and the characters look laughably bad.

>>135824336
>CG hands
>good

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>Euph
>Is a fucking tuba
Why are subs so shit?

>>135829078
>>135829206

Shirobako really saved their asses. S2 and movie next year please

>>135834449
>you can even hear her saying Bass Tuba

>>135834631
I mean how does a fuck up like that happen?

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>>135834661

>>135834449
Because Funi is shit.

>>135822765
>yuri
>yaoi

>>135834631
They just translate the script, they don't watch the video or listen to audio.

Isn't it more fair to compare Haruchika to Phantom World? Both are their fodder shows with QUALITY.

>>135824595
Maybe a stupid question, but would playing a video that has a brightness range from 0 to 255 in a video player that's set to 16 to 235 range affect the brightness negatively as well?

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>>135835179
It's stupid to compare their shows at all.

>>135824365
No, you just has a certain degree of color blind or your monitor is fucked up.

http://strawpoll.me/6480792

>>135834119
>insult my eyes
I see. You're THAT kind of faggot.

>>135827976
>Looking at sales after the first episode

Why don't you just post the sales 10 seconds after it aired?

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It's time for bingo.

>>135838548
Even Urobuchi's bingo manages to be fair and not blatantly butthurt shit. Fuck off with your bingo.

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>>135838548
>anoos
Kill yourself

>>135838621
Why the hell is it unfair?
Because Kyoani always makes the same shit?
How the fuck is that my problem.

>>135838681
Only thing I'm checking is 200 BD sales during the first week you fool.

>posting flop of the century

That shit lost Kyoanus more money than the 2 K-On seasons made them.

>>135838723
>being this mad no one likes your shitty bingo

Hahaha I saw you try to make a thread with it yesterday and bait only 5 replies what a fucking loser.

>>135838723
Are you pretending to be retarded?

>>135838792
I've never made a thread with it tho.
What an angry autist.

>>135838792
Boy is this guy mad

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>>135838548
What exactly is Costco fashion anyhow?

>>135838548
>Forced Animation

I will strangle you with my bare hands.

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>>135839108
I localized the Uniqlo meme from when Hyouka was airing.

>>135839208
Another angry autist. Truth hurts I guess.

>>135838480
Sales doesn't mean shit.

>>135839336
Yes. That is what the anon you replied to also explicitly implied.

>>135838548
>same VAs for every show
But KyoAni is one of the only studios that doesn't do this.

>>135838843
>>135838957
This obvious samefag. Keep crying because no one wants to play your shitty bingo that you keep posting
http://desustorage.org/_/search/image/jEAvTOCzWWsXqftE3hGPoA%3D%3D/

>>135839526
In three threads during the same hour while KyoAnus shitters were shitting up the whole board with their retarded haremshit anime. Wow. I sure samefagged bro.

Go be a butt mutilated KyoButtbuddy someplace else.

>>135839612
who raped you?

>>135822765
Which are you trying to say is better? They look basically the same.

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>>135839612
>spammed it in 3 different threads
>no one pitied you enough to fill in the bingo

>>135823311
this, madhouse sunrise and bones can be better than kyoani when they want to, they also tend to animate more complex stuff.

>>135839275
How is a still shot "forced animation"?

>>135827429
Uchoten Kazoku was so shit, i don't understand why people hype it so much.

>>135839858
It's not in the book.
It doesn't fit the mood.
It has nothing to do with anything that's happening during or before the shot.

It just there for artwank.

>>135839844
That's not how you play studio bingo. The whole point is for it to be impossible to not win and to make fanboys mad.

>>135839906
>forced opinion

>>135839906
So "forced animation" means "still frames I don't like"?

>>135838548
>Basist

>>135840075
It means
>studio chose a mundane as fuck book to animate so now they have to come up with 50000$ per shot artwank cuts to make the episode less of an artwank

That fucking scene had more key frames than the rest of the episode and it doesn't add anything beyond artwank for pleb KyoAnus drones to masturbate to.

>>135839978
It's extremely poorly made either way, and full of spelling errors.

Just kill yourself for coming up with such a piece of shit.

>>135839978
Either you're really butthurt that KyoAni exists and new enough to have never seen a non-troll studio bingo, or you're just a troll.
Which is it?

>>135840175
>50000$ per shot artwank cuts to make the episode less of an artwank
Every explanation you give just makes less sense.

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>>135839526
I don't know anything about no bingo.

>>135840175
>style is bad because it doesn't affect the content of the original source
Are you a Madhouse fag? Really love their HxH?

>>135840255
Replace the last artwank with snoozefest.
English is my fourth language, don't care if I make spelling mistakes, everyone on 4chan makes them only autistics care. When I see red in the spellcheck I just fucking ignore it.

>>135822765
I don't like the color scheme they used on HaruChika. The character design is OK, but during the animation the colors seems to be bleached.

>>135840323
>English is my fourth language, don't care if I make spelling mistakes, everyone on 4chan makes them only autistics care. When I see red in the spellcheck I just fucking ignore it.
I don't give a shit about KyoAni or Hyouka, but this is unacceptable. This is an English board for people who speak English and want to type like grown men, so stop being incompetent or else fuck off.

>>135840373
This might have to do with the raw HS used.

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>>135838548
Okay.

>>135823299

AHAHAAHHAHAHAH

>>135843127
What?

>>135840563
lol

>>135841998
Bingo for Haruchika already

>>135843327
It's not funny.

>Ctrl+F Tari Tari
>1 found
Come on now

>>135843803
I see two.

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>>135843803

>>135844797
There was no need to post that.