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Kizu's out in Japan now

2ch(an?)'s reaction

http://tamae.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/animovie/1451615241/
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>>135819601
>(an?)

Please.
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nips calling it Sakamoto's finest performance
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>>135819601
So with Part 2 coming out in cinemas as soon as summer I am guessing we will not have to wait the usual feature film long cycle for the BD.

Good news for those of us unlucky enough to live in areas where there are no screenings.
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>>135819688
This feels more like an OVA release than a movie.
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Camrip when?
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>>135818142
>>135818905

566
観て来た、リピートはせんが円盤は買うな
Just saw it. Not going again but I will buy the disc.
キスショットの登場シーンとか軽くホラーしててちょっと恐かったわ、夏まで待つのが辛い
Kiss-shot's entrance scene was left me a bit scared, it was pretty horror. Waiting 'til summer is gonna suck.


569
モノローグが無いのは正解だった
They were right to leave out the monologuing.
というか他のシリーズでもいらないよな
Actually they aren't really needed in the rest of the series either.


573
>>550 (the guy who thought it jumped around a lot)
阿良々木くんのモノローグないから心情の変化が急に感じるな
Without the monologues, Araragi's emotional changes do feel sudden, don't they?


580
>>569
化1話のモノローグとか鳥肌もんだったわ
Araragi's monologuing in Bake ep 1 gives me goosebumps.


581
次までにイタリア語覚えなきゃな
Guess I'll have to learn Italian before the next part.


582
63分とか短いなと思ってたけど濃すぎてお腹いっぱいだった
63 minutes is way short I thought, but it was so rich I was left feeling full.


587
熱血編の夏公開って11月くらいかな?
"Nekketsu-hen opens this summer." So some time around November, then?


592
モノローグの代わりにカットインで入れる文字が状況説明の補足として上手いこと機能してたね
The text cut-ins did a good job at explaining and expanding things in lieu of the monologues.
フランス語とかモールス信号もあったから初見には厳しいが
Though, the French and Morse code is probably a bit harsh for a first watch.
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MAIN STAFF

Storyboard:
Tatsuya Oishi

Directors:
Tatsuya Oishi
Toshimasa Suzuki

Animation Directors:
Hideyuki Morioka
Hiroki Yamamura

Main Animators:
Yuuya Shimoji
Genichirou Abe
Yoshio Kosakai
Ryo Imamura
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>>135819911
>Guess I'll have to learn Italian before the next part.
>Though, the French and Morse code is probably a bit harsh for a first watch.

Sausga SHAFT
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>>135819835
this

the first time I will watch a camrip in my life
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>>135819911
Morse code was easy.
... --- ...
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>>135819911
>French and Morse code
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>>135819963
>Main Animators:

?
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>>135820134
you
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>>135820134
me
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>>135819911
>French and Morse code
SHAFT is filled with absolute madmen
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It was early morning but the theater was 70% full.
男女比8:2くらい、下は10代~上は50代らしき人も
8:2 male-female ratio, youngest was teens oldest I saw someone who looked in his/her 50s.

>50's

Based old people, also I still hope he is still alive.
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>>135819911
>the French and Morse code is probably a bit harsh

You've done it again, Shinbou, you beautiful bastard.
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>>135820154
It's more like an ego thing but those are great names.
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>>135820218
>I still hope he is still alive

Bad news, anon.
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>>135819911
>Guess I'll have to learn Italian before the next part.
>Though, the French and Morse code is probably a bit harsh for a first watch.7

they are probably talking about this part?
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>>135820134
a lot of people here is from reddit actually
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>>135819911
>2016
>not knowing french

Litteral sub-humans.
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>>135819601
It's fucking beautiful art.
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Subs when?
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>>135820299

Tell me anon, all I know arthritis stopped him.
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I've seen a couple of trailers and their skin looks pink why is that?
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>>135819911
>569
>モノローグが無いのは正解だった
>They were right to leave out the monologuing.
>というか他のシリーズでもいらないよな
>Actually they aren't really needed in the rest of the series either.

I can't wait, I have a hard on for SHAFT visual narration.
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>>135820513
why do people need subs when you can read 100 pages in a couple of hours?
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>>135819997
>not watching Haruhi camrip as your first camrip
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When will they announce the U.S. theaters?
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>>135820534

B-But I liked the monologues.
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>monologues almost entirely removed

Kizumonogatari confirmed for best monogatari
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>>135820591
So do I but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy SHAFT's creativity as well. Someone please post some examples.
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>>135820534
>SHAFT lickers praise dialogue to no end in the Bake series
>SHAFT axes dialogues
>SHAFT lickers praise SHAFT for getting rid of dialogues
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Repost from the preceding thread about why no Shinobu OP:

Sakamoto: [laughter] [...] I'm old-fashioned - I don't want my work as a voice actress to get mixed up with my singing.

—What exactly do you mean by that?

Sakamoto: To me, my job as a singer is not so much a job, as it is a way of expressing myself - which is why I should write my own lyrics and sing under my own name. That's why, as a rule, I don't sing character songs.

Can anyone verify?
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>>135820638
monologue, retard
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>>135820591
Inner monologues are the worst part of every LN adaptation out there.
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>>135820576
Man, someone post this pic but with Disappearance's camrip.
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>>135820645
>That's why, as a rule, I don't sing character songs.

That's why, as a rule, you're full of shit because you've definitely sung in-character before, Maaya Sakamoto.

That quote is real, though, anon.
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>>135820638
>dialogues are monologues

You should off yourself like the illiterate retard you are.
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>>135820645
She's just a normal dumb bitch who thinks that singing popular music is somehow art.
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>>135820049
That actually makes sense

Well still, SHAFT did it again.
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>>135820638
>doesn't know the difference between monologue and dialogue
>umaru poster
>uses phrases like "SHAFT lickers"

Colour me surprised.
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Will someone make a site like madoka.wakarimasen.co for Kizu?

Who's lucky enough to see it in theaters? 905 here.
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>>135820591
Monogatari does not actually have that much monologue outside of expositions
They usually do 2fast4u flash cards for it instead.
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>>135820675

Fuck those were the days.
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>>135820638
Perfect example of a /v/ crossboarder.
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>>135820702
>sung in-character =/= character songs you dumbass
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>>135820708
everything is art you fucking faggot
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>>135820791
That was mostly during Bake. Recent seasons barely do that anymore.
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>>135820864
You kidding? There were still plenty in Owari. They just slowed down a bit.
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>>135820864
Yes but they also don't do internal monolgue either.
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>>135820864
>Remembering bake when it was airing
>Just keep going to gorespammer memories

FUCK
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>>135820702
They've got to find some way to trick her into singing an OP.
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593
原作は読んでないんだがあのモールス信号って原作にもあるの?
I haven't read the novel but did it have the Morse code in it?


590
なにが地上波放送できないって、羽川に欲情したアララギがエロ本買いに行くときのやる気まんまんのオットセイチンコが出たことだ
If were talking things that can't be aired on TV, the seal penis from Yaruki Manman showed up when Araragi, excited by Hanekawa's panties, went to go buy porno.


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>>590
あれ許可取ってんのかな?
I wonder if they got permission for that.
パロディでは済まされないほどそのまんまだったけど
It looked similar enough that you couldn't really get away with just calling it a parody.


625
映像がすごい、ってほぼ思わなかった。
I hardly thought "this looks amazing"
かわいい、きれいな作画はあったけど。
Though there was a few parts drawn cute, or pretty.
テレビ以上のクオリティではあるものの、
It may have been more than TV quality
映画館でやるレベルでもない感じ。
but I didn't feel it was up to theater level.

脚本も演出も間の取り方がどう言うわけかいまいちなシーンが多く、テンポが余り良くない。
The script, the acting, the placement of time were all somehow a little off in a lot of scenes, and the pace wasn't very good.
もしかしたら3部作に分けたために、
I couldn't help but think they sacrificed the first part
この1作目が犠牲になったのでは? と思ってしまう。
in order to make it a three-parter.


670
>>625
あれで思えないなら、君はフィルムを見る目が決定的に欠けてるよ…
If you couldn't think so from that, then there is something seriously wrong with your film-watching eyes.
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>>135821039
>but did it have the Morse code in it
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>>135821007
For all our sakes, I do hope so.
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>>135821039
>film-watching eyes.

kek
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>>135821039
>I couldn't help but think they sacrificed the first part in order to make it a three-parter.

OH BOY, HERE WE GO
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>>135820742
Toronto?
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>>135821039
keep it coming and thanks for translating.
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>>135821039
>the seal penis from Yaruki Manman showed up when Araragi, excited by Hanekawa's panties, went to go buy porno

goddammit SHAFT
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>>135820833
You're the dumbass here. How are they different? What, the difference is that it gets credited to "Character's name (CV: Singer's name)" instead of "Singer's name"? Wow! What could possibly be stopping her from singing the OP to a Shinobu arc as Maaya Sakamoto with lyrics from Shinobu's point of view? She has done songs for shows she's in that are clearly in-character before.
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>>135821039
They don'y like it, right?
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>>135820742
>905
filthy pleb, 416 or get out
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>>135821112
It's more likely that the only showing will be in Toronto and very few other theaters.

>inb4 Toronto and Halifax
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>>135820702
What were her previous in-character songs, for reference?
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>>135821007
She did the OP for Arise Alt. Architecture
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>>135820742
>>135821112
>>135821148
>>135821160
'Sauga here boys.

But a light train ride up to Toronto so no biggie family.
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>>135821039
Original novel doesn't have Morse code. It's just way to show Kissshot is calling for help.
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>>135821194
So it can be done, she just needs to be convinced that she's making some sort of original artistic statement, definitely not as Shinobu.
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>>135821039
Is 670 agreeing with 625 or shitting on him?
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>>135821141
>What, the difference is that it gets credited to "Character's name (CV: Singer's name)" instead of "Singer's name"?
Kek, not even. A character song is something that is sold and created as a separate tie-in marketing item to the show. It's basically a cash-grab, and is different than an insert song.
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>>135821039
>seal penis from Yaruki Manman
I don't get this reference
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>>135821177
I don't know many but most recently she's done two songs for Akito the Exiled with lyrics that sound like they're from the PoV of the main character she plays in the series, Leila.
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>>135821309
literally pic related form the post
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>>135821293
What does that even have to do with her not singing the OP to Monogatari?
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>>135821257
An OP isn't the same as a character song though. And she hasn't done any character songs.

Also the quote here >>135820645 isn't about why she hasn't done an OP, but why she hasn't done a character songs. The -gatari OPs happen to be essentially character songs so it could explain her reluctance. If they made an impersonal one, then maybe she'd do it?
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>>135821249
kaka, monogatari still carry on the french new wave influences.
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>>135819680
>nips calling it Sakamoto's finest performance

It could have been Hirano Aya voicing Kiss-shot.

Think about this for a moment, /a/.

It could have been Hirano Aya.
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>>135821148
It doesn't matter because you're going to have everyone in Ontario in the Y&D theater. Especially if they're giving anything out for the movies.

Did they give anything out in Japan?
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>>135819601
Don't make a thread or write this shit If you don't know the difference between 2chan and 2ch.
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>>135821398
>If they made an impersonal one, then maybe she'd do it?
I see no reason why they would be okay with just throwing in an instrumentals-only OP but not letting Maaya Sakamoto do an impersonal song for it.
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>>135820316
I think in the previous thread someone mentioned all the hunters - not just guillotine cutter - spoke in gibberish marsspeak

Im guessing the italian and morse are for the "xxx frame" screens which someone else mentioned were in french
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>koyomimono is tomorrow

YES, oh man this is a good month.
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JUST FUCKING TELL US ALREADY
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>>135821480
Ok, so what?
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>>135821194
OP =/= character song.

Maaya Sakamoto's done OPs for Soremachi and Koufuku Graffiti, both of which are Shaft productions.

The best you can hope for is a non-character song OP for one of the Kizu movies. Shinobu's voice is too different from her singing voice to make a good song anyway.
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>>135821480

Eh I ain't buzzed about it after this long.
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>>135821540
How long are the episodes going to be?
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>>135821543
Movie doesn't premiere in US for another month and a half. It will probably be a few weeks before Aniplex releases theater info. Chill faggot.
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>>135819963
>Animation directors
>no watanabe akio
why
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>>135821543
Anywhere you aren't willing to go to.
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>>135820954
I kind of miss him, it was a better time for the whole site
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>>135821480
Hirano's career was over the moment she aired her whore ways in public. The NEET otaku just won't have that even though all VAs are slimy sluts.
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>>135821317
As, anon said, that's not what an image/character song is. They also aren't sung directly by Leila, either.

An image/character song is like sidestory material, but in music form.
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>>135821039
>I hardly thought "this looks amazing"
>It may have been more than TV quality
>but I didn't feel it was up to theater level.

6 YEARS CGI ANIMATION
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>>135821636
Fuck Toronto
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>>135821480
>It could have been Hirano Aya.
Aya Hirano could've done loli Shinobu well, but I don't think she could nail the more mature voice like Sakamoto can.
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>>135821671
why would otakus care about 3dpd though?
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>>135821480
I like Maaya better. Deal with it.
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You'd better be good, Kizu.
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>>135821744
Because they`re picky fuckers with double standards, that`s why.
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>>135821709
So? Neither are Monogatari OPs.
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Man it just fucking hit me that there are people on this earth who have seen kizu animated and I ain't fucking one of them.
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>>135821792
Yes they are. They're credited to the character, with the (CV: whatsherface) appended to the end. Normal insert songs are credited to the singer.
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>>135821778
Judging by the sheer amount of jizz oozing through my screen from this and the previous thread, it looks like it will not disappoint.
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>>135821744
Because otaku is a blanket term that also includes nerds that obsess over 3d idols, and Hirano was a multimedia idol and performer as well as a seiyuu.
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>>135821851
So, CV: just denotes the difference, whereas the difference itself is purely artistic?
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>>135821784
>otakus care about purity
>they buy scat, guro and ntr doujins
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>>135821636
>>135821727
You have to be literally retarded to think Ontario would get Kizu without it being in Toronto. It's the only notable city in the entire province.
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>>135821851
Jesus fucking christ, decide on whether character songs are songs that get credited to the character or if they're songs that get released standalone as side material to milk a show. If it's the former there's no goddamn reason they couldn't just credit it to Maaya Sakamoto and not Shinobu for Shinobu arcs and if it's the latter it "has nothing to do Monogatari OPs".
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>>135821911
Double standards, man.
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>>135821911

We live in a strange spiral of morality.
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>>135821792
They are though, but they're a little less traditional than a normal image song, but the fact that they make several OPs per show and sell each of them as singles illustrates that it's designed to be marketed first, artistry second.
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>there are people on /a/ right now who haven't downloaded Koyomimonogatari app
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>>135821665
I know him. he ended up going normalfag
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>>135821911
Nothing not pure about pissing on a girl that loves you for it.
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>>135822060
>Not peeing in her

m
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>>135822020
Isn't it region-locked?
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>>135822016
It's not like Sakamoto doesn't sell her anime OPs as singles
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>>135822093
>vpn
>qooapp
>.apk in google
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>>135821911
Even the thought of vanilla should disgust them if they care that much about purity. Even then, they're the biggest doujinshi consumers in the market.
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>>135821595

No idea actually.
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>>135821940
Character songs are songs that are sung in-character and credited to the character. It's pointless for her to sing an OP if she's not gonna sing in character. She could do a not-on-character version of the OPs like Kogarashi Sentiment had, but the actual OPs are supposed to be in-character.
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>>135822126
She doesn't; her label does.
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>>135822040

That's one hell of a twist.
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>>135822193
and then we return to how although Leila doesn't sing the Akito EDs herself, the lyrics are very clearly "in-character".
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>>135822193
>the actual OPs are supposed to be in-character.
At least in Monogatari's case, that is.
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>>135819680
>nips calling it Sakamoto's finest performance
One nip. On 2channel. If you take that seriously you are an idiot.


596
阿良々木さんはなに自然に胸に顔を埋めてんですかね
The hell does Araragi think he is, burying his face in that chest so nonchalantly
いや、まあ、首を差し出してるんだろうけど
Though, well, I guess he was sticking out his neck at the time.


644
描写の丁寧さがとにかくすごいわ
The thoroughness of the depictions was just amazing.
お陰で暦に感情移入しっぱなしで邂逅のシーンとか見てて呼吸浅くなったレベル
Thanks to that I empathized with Koyomi the whole way through. Watching his encounter scene my breathing even got shallower.

663
3部作にしたせいか前半やたら演出長くてタルいな、盛り上がる前に終わったし正直微妙
Maybe because they made it a trilogy, but the scenes in the first half were long and dull, and it ended right before getting good, honestly it was questionable.
でもあのクオリティでの熱血編はすげえ面白そう
Though Nekketsu-hen in that quality sounds amazingly awesome.

675
戦闘に力入れたので、クオリティ下げました
"We put our efforts into the fights, so the quality went down (in general)"
とかなったりしてw
Or something like that lol


682
はい、2回目終わり
Done with my second watch.
SEが若干チープだけど逆にそれがいいな
The sound effects were a bit cheap but that was good in its own way.
頭撫でるシーンとか
Like the scene where he strokes her head for example.
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>>135822126
Lyrically, her OPs are usually unrelated to the show, whereas the Monogatari OPs are more closely related to the subject matter of the arc.

All of Sakamoto's Shaft OPs have just been generic J-Pop tunes and little else; her Soremachi OP was actually a cover of a song from the 60s.
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>>135822231
Right, she's just an enlightened artist doing it for the craft and her label is the evil means to it that has to release her OPs as singles but the moment it were for Monogatari then it's just too commercial she can't do it.
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would there be camrip?
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I just came back from theatre. Ask me anything.
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>>135822353
Was there any strange odor?
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>>135822276
>The hell does Araragi think he is, burying his face in that chest so nonchalantly
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>>135822353
Did you enjoy it?
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>>135822276
>Done with my second watch.
damn
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>>135822353
How many old people were in the audience?
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>>135822353
Did you catch anyone rubbing one off?
Did you?
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>>135822353
how did you feel the film in general? in comparison to the nips reviews?
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>>135822353
Was it good?
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>>135822353
The camrip?
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>>135822285
You couldn't convince me in a thousand years her Akito EDs aren't tightly tied to the show. It's clearly from the perspective of her character.
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>>135822353
Where the fuck is the camrip?
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>>135822370
Nah, I'm in the last row so didn't smell anything.

>>135822375
Enough to worth 4 years wait.

>>135822384
Around 20~40 from memory. But thanks to cast greeting for the first round, ratio of men to women is about 6:4 (but then I didn't pay much attention to the audience).
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>>135822353
日本語力はどのくらい?
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>>135819911
>"Nekketsu-hen opens this summer." So some time around November, then?
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>>135822353
If my normie friend decides to tag along will he at least enjoy it, like watching a normal movie?
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>>135822353

Was it worth the years waiting?
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>>135822461
>But thanks to cast greeting for the first round
Wait, what? There were cast members there? Or was it a video thing?
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>>135822504
Literally >>135822461
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>>135822501
If you're watching it in the US, then no.
Spare your friend the experience.
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>the seal penis from Yaruki Manman
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>>135822533
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>>135820218
Would you line up if it was in a cinema near you?
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>>135822395
>>135822441
>>135822454
Uh, no.

>>135822400
>>135822415
I didn't read Japanese reviews (yet), but I'm very glad that I fly here to watch it. Basically it's what we've seen in PV. Lots of amazing animation, no monologue, backgrounds all hyperreal 3D (but very well matched with the character movements.)

I think they use 3DCG for character in only single scene. But it was very hard to tell. Everything else related to characters are all 2D animation.

Kissshot scene in the underground subway is VERY scary despite the scene being really bright.

>>135822477
意思疎通はできるかできないかってくらい。
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>>135822276
>multiple comments about it looking subpar for a movie

Sasuga shaft
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>>135822652
Th-they're too busy making Owari 3, right?
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>>135822501
Erm, hard to say. Show them first few minutes of Bake ep1 and if they like it, it's likely that they'd like Kizu too.

>>135822514
Yup. It's a movie screening + mini cast event of sort. (舞台挨拶). I'm lucky enough to grab a ticket before it was sold out (it sold out in 3 minutes).

There're total of 4 casts in Kizu 1… so literally all casts came.
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>>135822691

No.
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>>135821480
I hear she did a great Shinobu in the drama CDs (or radios or something).
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>>135822713
did Kamiyan talk about his cat
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>>135822622
how was the french, Morse code or whatever language that appear when the vamp hunters appeared?
was it this scene?>>135820316 was it only dramaturgy?
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>>135822691
Not even the same staff.
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>>135822691
Technically Shaft is always busy making something because they're always behind schedule.
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>>135822258
>>135822449
She only did one song for Akito.
Also, it wouldn't be a stretch to say she's singing that song to herself as a sort of detached observer. "She" could (and most likely is) singing them to Akito, but if you take a step back it's actually a clever song.

Also, I know at least one of the Bakemonogatri OPs shows a character's lips singing the song for a couple seconds.
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>>135822737
Nyanko-sensei!
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>>135821480
>a literal who cares
She was hot shit 10 years ago. Move on faggot. She's not coming back.
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>>135822736
Yes, she did.

She was better than Maya.
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>>135822713
>so literally all casts came.
I am so jelly right now.
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>>135822622
>Kissshot scene in the underground subway is VERY scary despite the scene being really bright.
My hype is now building-up.
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>>135822769
She did the ED for Akito 1-3 that was also used as an insert song in Akito 4, and the ED for Akito 4. Two songs.
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>>135819911
>63 minutes
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>>135822737
Didn't remembered that he did. But he did said "This year is 2012."

>>135822741
French text appeared when Arararararagi try to go under the sun. Morse code was when he follow Kissshot's blood into a subway and met her for the first time. (I think it's SOS)
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>>135822622
>Amazing animation
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>>135822939
Watch the Araragi burning scene in the PV, now extend that to about 3 minutes.
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Damnit, I guess that means I'll have to brave the throngs of autistic weeaboos and see this in the US.

Hopefully they're doing a showing in Indianapolis again.
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>>135822874
>Akito 4
Oh, shit that's subbed, yeah?

Gonna get on that then. Other point still holds though.
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>>135822976
Jesus christ, that seems a bit over-the-top.
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>>135823021

True, but it does emphasis how fucked that moment was.
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>>135821727
Fuck you man why are you hating. Our city is dope. Besides maybe transit we're gucci.
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>>135822921
>"This year is 2012."
kek
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>>135822921
>"This year is 2012."
Kamiyan you bastard

Also do you think they save better scenes for the fights in the second movie? people on 2chan are saying the first part was dull
And how cute was kisshot in her 10 year old form?
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>>135819911
>They were right to leave out the monologuing.
>というか他のシリーズでもいらないよな
>Actually they aren't really needed in the rest of the series either.
Literally 90% of monogatari is gone and would be boring as fuck.
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734 : 見ろ!名無しがゴミのようだ!2016/01/08(金) 13:22:32.67 ID:lgnNi7c3
傷物語よくわかんないけどチョロ松にしか聞こえないから流し見してる
"I don't really know about Kizumonogatari but I'm skim-watching because of the guy that sounds exactly like Choromatsu."
とかいうツイートが
--some tweet

735 : 見ろ!名無しがゴミのようだ!2016/01/08(金) 13:22:59.94 ID:qMnjFKxN
>>734
殺意沸いてきた
I'm feeling the urge to kill.
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>>135823021
Well, it's not only Araragi, but including Shinobu dragging him back, all while burning.
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>>135823013
All that I`m really getting from this line of discussion is that it`s not really a matter of artistic integrity or selling out, so much as Sakamoto just saying "I don`t wanna" because of some minor difference in perspective.
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>>135823098
>Our city is dope
Indeed.
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>>135823141
>"I don't really know about Kizumonogatari but I'm skim-watching because of the guy that sounds exactly like Choromatsu."
>NOT KNOWING BASED KAMIYAN
>BEING A NEWFAG
I'm mad
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>>135823133
I think they're saving the fighting scene for the second movie. The first one's highlight is the burning scene and the subway scene (where Araragi meet Kissshot), IMHO.

Kissshot is way too cute.
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>>135822736
Yeha she appeared in the Hyakumonogatari the drama cd
>>135822798
not even close no.mp3my.mixtape.moe/zmniea.mp3
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>>135823193
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>>135823244
>Kissshot is way too cute
Noice

The lack of monologues make it feel different from the other titles of the series? Do you think Oishi did a good job even though it took him years to finish the damn storyboard?
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>>135823154
Can't really disagree with that. I don't see why they don't just let her write an impersonal OP for the arc. Maybe Shaft doesn't want to break their theme of "sung by characters" if there's gonna be singing.
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So, when everything's on BD and ripped and encoded and subtitled and uploaded to nyaa, should I watch this after Bakemonogatari like the order the novels were released, or should I watch this after Owarimonogatari since that's the release order for the anime?
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>>135823325
I actually like the lack of monologue better, but I feel it's going to be somewhat hard to follow for those who never read the novel before.

Oishi definitely did a good job. Kamiya also mentioned that the scene where Araragi try to get out to sunlight will have to be cut (either all or by a lot) if they were going to make this single movie (it was Shinbo who mentioned this to Kamiya).

I also really like "trying to get to sunlight" scene, as it's done solely with breathing sound, yet able to give so much impression to viewer that something really really bad is going to happen. Think Walpurgis scene in beginning of Madoka episode 1, but 10 times that.

Overall, I think Oishi is questioning himself how would he make Bake direction style worth the theatre screen, and the result is Kizu. And he definitely succeeded.
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>>135823548
Release order always, no exceptions whatsoever
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>>135823548
It depends. Is this your first time through the series?
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>>135823420
Did the OPs for Shinobu Time or Shinobu Mail count as "sung by the characters"? Obviously, there`s the difference in the voice, but what about the actualy lyrical content? I haven`t been able to find a translation for Mein Schatz, so I`m stuck in the dark on that one...
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>>135823581
Except in this case there are several different release orders to consider.

Same with Haruhi. Do you mean weird out of order airing order? Airing order with the second season interspersed (i.e. chronological)? LN order (also chronological)?

>>135823616
Yes. I've been waiting for Kizu.
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>>135823548
Watch it after Monogatari Series Second Season. You can watch it after Owari Part 1 I guess but that's unnecessary but I think it's better if you don't watch it before Monogatari Series SS.
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>>135823691
You'll have to wait for parts 2 and 3.

In other words Kizu never.
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>>135823581
I think that`s bullshit. Kizu was supposed to come out way earlier, and was the third novel released, anyway, so in order for Nise to make sense, I think belongs between Bake and Nise.
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>>135823691
LN order is probably the best, since there's stuff in Nise and SS that makes more sense if you've seen/read Kizu already.
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>>135823691
Shaft's mindset when making the series takes into account what has been aired already, I'm sure of it

Watching Kizu with only the knowledge of Bake isn't a good idea
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>>135823574
Wo that sounds great, too bad they can't do that with whats's left of the series, based Oishi

Oh yeah now that you mention sound, people talk about how sound was kinda cheap?

>>135823691
Anon now you have to wait for Wazamonogatari the latest novel that is going to be release in January 15 and that is before Kizu chronological, probably adaptation until 2020
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>>135823729
Did they insert parts into Kizu that weren't in the LN that depend on SS plot points?

>>135823745
I'm aware of that. Kizu never turned into Kizu at some indeterminate point in the near-ish future though, so it's not as bad.
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>>135823786
Maybe, but Nise confused the fuck out of me as to the relationship between Koyomi and Shinobu. The Baka-Tsuki translation of Kizu cleared up so much after the fact.
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>>135823691
I'd do
Bake -> Kizu -> Nise -> NekoKuro -> NekoShiro -> Kabuki -> Otori -> Oni -> Koi -> Owari Part 1 -> Tsuki -> Koyomi -> Owari Part 2 (never) -> Hana
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>>135823802
I don't know how to put it. But it's definitely not like the TV series. Think the first Kizu PV (head popping off) and second Kizu PV. The whole BGM and sound effect are in that tone.
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>>135823841
Very reasonable, would recommend.
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>>135823841
If you're going to put Kizu in novel order you may as well put Hana in novel order too. And what in the hell are you doing to season three? It goes Tsuki -> Koyomi -> Owari 1, 2, 3 -> ZokuOwari
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>>135823882
wasn't based Kousaki Satoru suppose to be back for Kizu?

In a scale of 1-10 how good was Maaya, Kamiyan and Takahiro's performance
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>>135823882
As long as it matches the aesthetic, it doesn`t actually matter that much. They`ve done weirder shit already.
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>>135823841
Why? Except for some weird stuff with Hana and Owari, it's just the LN order.
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>>135823812
No, SS just alludes to Kizu so much that I think it would be good for you to go through the typical anime viewer experience of having seen it without watching Kizu and then rewatching it later having seen Kizu to get the experience people who had read Kizu did. You can get both experiences this way, if you watch Kizu before SS you only get one of them.
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>>135823948
Yes he's back. Just the direction of the BGM is different than the TV series. It's well matched IMHO.

I'd give Maaya a full 10. Her beg-for-life acting is REALLY amazing. It gives me shivers just to think about it. I feel it's a little hard for Kamiya to "reset" his role from pervert Araragi to hate-this-world Araragi, so his acting feel a little out of place in few scene. Takahiro is pretty much the same stuff as TV.
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>>135821480
Thank fuck it wasn't. She's not that great.
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>>135824015
It looks like the deviations are for the sake of chronology, the value of which are subjective.
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>>135823691

Just do release order you fuckhead.
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>>135824151
Which release order? It got adapted out of order.
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>>135824195
flip a fucking coin
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>>135824065
At what point did the movie stop? Did we get to see the Vampire Hunters encounter for the cliffhanger?
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>>135824195

You got two options. Pick.
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>>135824195
Fill yourself in on Kizu before you watch Nise. For the rest, do whatever the fuck you want.
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>>135824195
Kizu novel was released before Nise.
Hana novel was released before Otori.
Koyomi novel was released before Owari 1.

Other than those three exceptions, anime order has been exactly the same as novel order.
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>>135823253
Link is dead, got it anywhere else? I don't think I'll like it at all but im still curious to hear what she sounded like.

But really though, its probably gonna suck.
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>>135824228
After encounter with Vampire Hunters, when Araragi & Kisshot make contract with Oshino (to have him help and to pay him in return). Feel kinda weird that they cut it right here.
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Why is this still not on Nyaa? Fucking lazy ass japs man, hurry up you cunts
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>>135824417
because it's in theatres you stupid fuck
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>>135824436
Camrips for days.
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>>135822622
Does shinobu ever looks like this design from the first pv, in the film.
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>>135824065
Yeah I could her her  嫌だ、嫌だ、嫌だよお……、死にたくない、死にたくない、in the PV
>>135824317
From everything you've said sounds really good and worth the wait
Do you think the hype for the movie will last the rest of the year?
Also yeah people said it felt cut of, but how so? they show the vamp hunters and that's it?
Also was there OP? or what was that shabadabada with Kamiyan in the PV1 and the new PVs? or was it the ED?
>>135824302


>>135824295
I fucked up sorry: my.mixtape.moe/zmniea.mp3
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Any promo items other than the crossover story?
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>>135824537
Translate it weebs.
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>>135824537
Not as bad as I thought it would be. A little too cutesy for Shinobu in my opinion. Sakamoto has the best balance between serious and adorable.
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>>135824559
from the eng release: "No way, no way, no waaay... I don't wanna die, I don't wanna die, "
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>>135824537
She sounds like a toddler.
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So is there enough material in Owari 3 to fill an entire cour, or will they try to sneak Zoku in there as well?
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>>135824509
Nah, much cuter.

I'm damn sure that Kizu Ouen (the guy who draw >>135823325) is one of the staff, because "his" 10 years old Kissshot is basically what was in the movie

>>135824537
Probably hard to keep the hype throughout the year. The movie is only 1 hour and its content is more of a "episode 1" than anything. They show Vampire Hunters, Oshino stopped them, go to meet Kissshot, Oshino ask for 2 millions (was it?) to help, Kissshot agrees. Oshino make some remark and it just end.

But then there's Koyomimonogatari broadcasting today. Maybe it could.
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>>135820564
The book is 354 pages long.
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>>135824714
Can confirm, not an entirely trivial undertaking.
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>>135822652

The movies box office is largely expected to be carried by novel benefits and repeat viewers anyway.
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>>135824714
yes bit what was adapted in this movie was up until chapter 6
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>>135824659
No.

It's one novel. One novel has consistently been adapted to 5 or 6 episodes through the entire series, with a few for 4, and couple for 7, and Bake volume 1 which had 8.
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where are the photos or the cap rips?
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>>135824537
I've never followed the LNs because im saving that virignity for when my moon is good enough but wow is release order all over the place.
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>>135824537
That sounds like a 3 years old kid.
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The nips had such a poor reaction to it.
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THIS BETTER FUCKING COME TO CHICAGO
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>>135820564
implying I'll fucking read the novel after waiting 5 goddamn years for this movie when I could've given up and read it at any point
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>>135824679
Ahh okay, really wanted to see that design be in there but the other one is just as good.


How was the fight scenes by the way?

Better than araragi/kanbaru fight?
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>>135824852
"Poor" is such a strong word

"Middling" is better
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>>135824659
> First season
Bakemonogatari Volume 1 - 446 Pages / 8 Episodes = 55.75
Bakemonogatari Volume 2 - 401 Pages / 7 Episodes = 57.29
Nisemonogatari Volume 1 - 322 Pages / 7 Episodes = 46
Nisemonogatari Volume 2 - 324 Pages / 4 Episodes = 81
Nekomonogatari (Kuro) - 308 Pages / 4 Episodes = 77

> Second season
Nekomonogatari (Shiro) - 292 Pages / 5 Episodes = 58.4
Kabukimonogatari - 342 Pages / 4 Episodes = 85.5
Otorimonogatari - 284 Pages / 4 Episodes = 71
Onimonogatari - 276 Pages / 4 Episodes = 69 Pages
Koimonogatari - 280 Pages / 6 Episodes = 46.67
Hanamonogatari - 272 Pages / 5 Episodes = 54.4

> Third season
Tsukimonogatari - 280 Pages / 4 Episodes = 70
Koyomimonogatari - 448 Pages / 12 episodes= 37.33
Owarimonogatari Volume 1 - 386 Pages/7Episodes = 55.14
Owarimonogatari Volume 2 - 328 Pages/6 Episodes=54.6
Owarimonogatari Volume 3 - 384 Pages
Zoku-Owarimonogatari - 288 Pages

>Off season
Orokamonogatari- 285 pages
Wazamonogatari-

> First season prequel movie
Kizumonogatari - 355 Pages/ 3 movies= 118
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>>135824877
There weren't any.
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>>135824870
Can't you both read it and watch it?
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>>135824921
I didn't want to spoil the movie with the novel
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>>135824877
There weren't any fight scenes in the first movie. The scene where Oshino stopping Vampire Hunters are pretty damn cool though (although feel a little bit over the top).
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>>135824948
You'd more be spoiling the novel by watching the movie.
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>>135824976
It's a matter of perspective and since I'm more interesting the movie than the novel, reading the novel would be spoiling the movie.
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>>135821148
Where you at
Come fig shopping with me this weekend, I want to talk about monogatari banter
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>>135820439
>2016
>Not knowing English

Literal subhuman.
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I really wanna see that kiss shot scene. I love being spooked.
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>>135824896
So it sounds like they could sneak Zoku in there if they wanted to, but I bet we'll get at least one Koyomi recap episode.
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So the book is out of stock everywhere, Bake when?
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>>135824948
Kiss-shot's plan is to trick Araragi into killing her, restoring his humanity and succeeding in her goal of suicide.

Hanekawa sees through this and reveals it to Araragi right before he kills her. Araragi begs Oshino for a solution, he tells him to almost kill her, draining her of most of her vampireness, leading to her state and his aftereffects in Bakemonogatari.
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>>135825175
I'm not stupid enough to read spoilers on /a/, I stopped reading as early as "Kiss-shot's plan".
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>>135825175
Absolute cuntwaffle.
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>>135825059
Oshino, Araragi and loli Kiss Shot SoL series when?
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>>135825215
araragi dies

bake onwards is a dream
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>>135819963
>No Shinbo

Nigga what?
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>>>/wsg/894544
I've been asking everywhere to no avail
KizuNever dev here, any translators want to help? We got the scripts for all the Nisemonogatari commentaries
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>>135825322
Guess what Oishi also directed Bake
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>>135823098
>Our city is dope

DUDE
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>>135825599
WHAT MAN.
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>>135824893
I think the problem really is that it's only an hour long.
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>>135825599
WEED
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>>135825728
Not just that, but mostly exposition.
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>>135824896

They really fucked up on Kabuki with only 4 episodes.
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>>135821480
>It could have been Hirano Aya.
Thank god it wasn't.
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So next movie is Dramaturgie/Epsiode Fight

Last movie is Guillotine/Kisshot

kind of feels like they fucked up making it a trilogy
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>>135824948

After all these years a translation being around and /a/nons talking about Kizu, you somehow stayed clean? The fuck.
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>>135821671
Otaku this, otaku that. Think about the impression she gave people that were going to work with her.
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>>135825872
I was afraid that this was going to be a problem. I sort of knew that the first movie was going to be the worst one but i thought that they would at least have the Dramaturgy fight to make up for it.

Now that we know the first movie has no fights i can see why people aren't as hyped as they should be.

Still, this means that the next two movies are going to be pretty legit.

Though i do agree, it shouldn't have been a trilogy
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>>135826033
He's probably lying and recently got into the series within the last year. If he'd been browsing these threads for four years it would be literally impossible to stay away from kizu spoilers.
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>>135823130
>>135823133
I-I don't get it.
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>>135826085
Could be long fan but newfag on the boards.
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>>135826117

Plausible.
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>Check Drafthouse
>They have Kizumonogatari listed

FUCK YEAH
This at least means I have a 50% of it coming to my Theater
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>>135826067
>thinking 'fights are the point of Kizu
All you're going to get is more disappointment.
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>>135825769
LMAO
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>>135825769
LMAO
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>>135826106
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>>135826067

Look at the first movie as the set up. Since its movies, the violence and gore should be great. Honestly I am more so hyped for Kiss-shot doujins.
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>>135821112
Who else Toronto here?

I remember the /a/ meetup we did for rebellion
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>>135819601
>2ch
Is this some kinda subtle joke? No one could possibly mix up sites that are in two different languages.
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>>135826232
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>>135826236
I can`t look at porn from a series that I respect. Is that weird to you?
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>UK always gets shafted when it comes to anime films
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>>135826304

Yeah I got the same issues. Feels wrong.
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>>135824969
So there was OP or not? was the sahabadabada from kamiyan there at all or was it only for the PVs?
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>>135826332

Just take a train to France or Germany.
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>>135826304
I kinda get you.
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>>135826374
>subs are in a language I can't understand
EVEN WORSE
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>>135826272
2ch and 2chan (futaba) are both Japanese
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>>135826304
>tfw Shinobu is my waifu

The guilt is what kills me at times.
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>>135826400

Memorize the translations and go in confident. Your only option.
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>>135824896
I think the sweet spot is around 55 pages / episode (though I like how closely Koi was adapted, I think Nise 1 was stretched out too long). Of course it's all different when it comes to a movie.
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>>135826304
>>135826416
I enjoy Shinobu doujinshi because I always get frustrated at how the author handles her character, and the ones that actually do a decent job are usually too funny to fap to.
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>>135826538
No, Karen bee was stretch, but Tsukihi Phoenix was cut as fuck http://cetranslation.blogspot.mx/2012/03/nisemonogatari-snippet-of-chapter-005.html
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>>135826559
can't enjoy*
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>>135826236
>>135826190

I read the novel so i'm not disappointed. I was just a little sad that there were regular moviegoers who weren't too impressed with it. Especially since it gets really good later on
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>>135826562
Yeah, I've read that before and I'm really surprised they skipped it. It's pretty important. 81 pages / episode is breakneck pace.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuY2kIT4aMs
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>>135826619
Always sad to see people turned off from a series by an improper introduction.
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>>135826656
>Not available to your country

This Auscunt ain't pleased.
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>>135826656
>the uploader has not made this video available in your country
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>>135826619
>>135826681
They fucked up by going to Kizu for an "introduction".

Bakemonogatari is the proper introduction to the Monogatari series.
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>>135826720
Without a doubt. But how`s a normie to know?
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>>135826757
>normie

Surprised you didn't post a frog.
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>>135826656
https://youtu.be/iy7VtOKR2kQ

Why are aniplex such retards.
Reupped
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>>135826117
>>135826085
>>135826033
I got into Monogatari in 2012 and started going to /a/ in 2013. I don't browse Monogatari threads that much but yes I've avoided Kizu spoilers. I've had had parts of other -monogatari titles spoiled before they aired, though.
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>>135826757
>normie
Kill yourself
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>>135826844
>That lick

OOOHHHHH
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>>135820576
Please don't remind me of that eye-cancer again. First time I felt depraved in a world connected by the internet.
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>>135826844
These retards put all the sakuga in one trailer, they only left out the burning scene out.
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>>135826844
So we just saw the end of the first movie, well Dramaturgy doesn't look as big as he was suppose to, c'mon Oishi step up for next movie please
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>>135826033
I"m in the same boat. I watched Bake only a year ago. I'm not even caught up with the series and I've remained unspoiled. I just hope spoilers don't pop up everywhere as I'll most likely end up seeing it in theaters. Love having an Alamo Draft House not too far from where I live.
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>>135826844
That's beautiful!
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>>135826757
I normally do some basic research before watching a movie, and it seems especially prudent in the case of a foreign cartoon you've never heard of. That said, if people put that much thought into their actions they wouldn't be normies.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if people in the west go watch it without even knowing it'll be in japanese.
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>>135826844
How puffy is too puffy?
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>>135826812
>>135826878
>no problem with "nips"
>"normies" is over the line
Apparently I`ve still got to learn.
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>>135826844
>Meme being the fucking spiderman
pretty entertaining
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>>135826936
He might still be big, there's nothing for context.
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>>135826844
It's like Shinobu's wearing diapers. That's not how panties work.
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>>135825170
Hey, nice Anon here. Do you want me to get write the first few chapters here?
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For the anon(s) that saw the movie, did the panty scene have as much emphasis as it did in the book?
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>>135827155
fucking this
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>>135827123
Hell, I`ve got a link to a copy of the BakaTsuki translation if anyone wants it.
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>>135827155
Well they mentioned that the amount of monologue was cut down. I can't imagine what else they'd be referring to in the first part of Kizu.
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I bought the book, should I just dive right into it now or should I watch the movie first?
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>>135826673

Does anyone know how to navigate baidu
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>>135827155
Which panty scene?
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>>135827155
Man, I sure hope so. Loved reading that shit.
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>>135827172
Sure go for it
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>>135827225
>Which panty scene?
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>>135827225
>Which panty scene?
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>>135827244
Get out of here, crab, this is before you`re time.

>>135827243
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1rIdPe5dWrsekpzbllkNm9SeE8zaEFLTzVpaXdWdw/view
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>>135827225
>Which panty scene?


The panty scene and the one in the PE shed were really fucking great, would be a shame if they cut those.
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>>135827270
>you`re
Fuck.
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>>135827292
I'm 100% sure they wouldn't. Those are defining events in modern literature.
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>>135826936
Yeah, I like that big huge blue Hulk version in Bake.
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>>135827008

People still use normalfag around here and don't like other boards shit leaking to /a/.
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>>135827341
Thank you for the point of information, friend.
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>>135827218
http://v.baidu.com/v?s=8&word=%C9%CB%CE%EF%D3%EF&fr=ala11#pd=2&pn=0

Searched for 伤物语
Filter by uploaded in the past day
Nothing except aniplex trailer

I don't normally use baidu, but don't think there's anything there.
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>>135827341
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>>135819963
If Kizu turns out to be good, I'm willing to finally admit that he was probably the reason Bake was so much better than all the subsequent shit.
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>>135827270
Thanks buddy
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>>135820638
it's true i'm a easily bought man
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>>135821069
novelfags btfo
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>>135827404
That's not the baidu you need.
pan.baidu / share /......
it's in a private folder for movies if you know which one it is then you know the pass too so good luck.

Literally SEARCHING through a public service for a movie that just came out is already peak of retardation so I don't think you'll need any luck.
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>>135827416
Bake doesn't even come close to S2, bait-kun.
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>>135827244
>>135827259
>>135827292
Are you guys talking about when Araragi see's Hanekawas panties? That's a pretty pointless scene.
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>>135827504

You replied to a LNfag anon.
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>>135827541
This is bait right? That scene basically kick started the entire series.
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>>135827512
Chinese copyright laws are loose as fuck. I thought he meant someone uploaded short camripped snippets.
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>>135821007
when will you guys admit your seiyuu a shit? even Aya Hirano still does songs for her fans even though there's no fame it anymore, a whole lot done for a supposed dead seiyuu then ones that's supposed to be an "A-lister"
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Is it really only 63 minutes long? God damn it Shaft you money hungry bastards.
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>>135827541
Bait, too obvious anon. Way too blunt.
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>>135827581
I'm surprised they were able to get that much time considering what's in the movie. It's literally a couple hours with of reading.
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>>135827541
It is but people meme about it a lot like it's somehow worth screentime for some reason.
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>>135821480
Dunno man, I don't think she'd be able to pull off the more menacing scenes like pic related.

AHO
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i never thought my cancer would allow me to watch Kizu. i just hope i can also watch part 2 & 3, but who knows
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>>135827668
jesus dude
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How do i navigate through the Koyomi app? I don't know how to read moonrunes, and i got a notification from the app. Maybe the first "episode" is up already?
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>>135827622
It`s too important to just discard. Considering the person Araragi was right then, that was the most probable way that he would have ever gotten to know Hanekawa, and with that, he never would have made it to Bake.
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>>135827572

I thought it was when she started to talk about Vampire rumor that got Araragi thrown into it. Plus started the whole thing where every time Araragi goes to get an eroge, he ends up in a fucked up situation afterwards.
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>>135821582
Problem is that every Monogatari OP is a character song by default. At best they might get an ED out of her, but not an OP.

>>135827579
What does singing have to do with seiyuu?
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>>135827668
well that's what you get for not being a vegan you retard.
Eat more garbage and die before seeing part 2
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>>135827707
They never would have had a conversation, let alone talk about vampires, if that act of God had not occurred right then.
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>>135819601
I don't follow this show, but is that the vampire loli that gave you guys a foot fetish, or something else?
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>>135827668
Good luck anon.
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>>135827707
He gets the eroge because of the panty scene.
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>>135827514
s2 is a lot worse than Bake if you ask me. Significantly less interesting direction and storyboarding/cinematography/shot choice.
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>>135827700
They can give it a nod in the form of animation. Believe it or not the story is not substantially detrimented by Araragi not going on a 5 minute monologue about panties in an anime adaptation, and the fact that you even know it exists to complain about it means you really shouldn't care if it's there anyway. It's not even the same medium anyway.
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>>135827668

You will make it anon. YOU WILL MAKE IT.
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>>135827788
Those are all true, but it's still better to me because of how purposeful and sharp the writing is. I wish we had had Oishi to direct S2.
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>>135827794
It doesn`t have to be the original 4 page equivalent, especially since they`re not in his mind like the LN, and they already did it justice with the Bake prologue. But it`s still a key plot point for the arc and defining characteristic for Koyomi himself.
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Only 8 days until I can Kizu.

The new CM and the impressions put my hype to a new unkown level.
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>>135827788

I disliked second season for the cut parts for squeezing them in and also the recaps.
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>>135827788
Nise>Bake>=Hana>Owari>SS>>>>Shit>Tsuki
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>>135827881
Tsuki is one of the better post-Bake adaptations, dunno why you would put it last.
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i never thought my depression would allow me to watch Kizu. i just hope i can also watch part 2 & 3, but who knows
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>>135827866
It's a key plot point yes, but the people who have constantly acted like it's one of the main highlights of Kizu are morons.
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>>135827881
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>>135827881
I agree holeheartedly
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>>135827788
Koi made up for everything else bad in SS
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>>135827911
Because nothing happened? Because it was almost entirely composed of exposition? Because it ended with introducing and then killing a specialist in the span of like one chapter?

Tsuki was a clusterfuck, and I say that as a person who likes pretty much every character involved with it.
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>>135827881
Bake>>Neko Black>Nise>=Tsuki>>>>SS=Owari>Hana
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>>135827871
SS production schedule must have been hell. SHAFT trying to do a 2-cour was a recipe for disaster from the start. And one of my favorite scenes is forever tainted by ultra low quality CGI snakes.
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>>135827998
The train scene made up Tsuki for me. Getting Araragi to admit that he'd become a vampire to protect those around him showed how much he's changed as a character since Kizu. It was also nice to see Shinobu back Araragi up.
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>>135828050
And then Mail reminded us that Araragi really hasn't changed much at all since Kizu.
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>>135827783
>>135827707
Eroge=/=Porn magazine
But yeah if he hadn't seen Hanekawa's panties he would have never gone out at night and meet Kisshot.
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>>135826304
Yeah, I get you senpai. Sheesh, I thought I was the only one.
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>>135827998
I loved Tsuki because it was the second step toward the idea that something is seriously wrong. The setup it provides to Owari is invaluable.
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>>135827998
the entire monogatari series is exposition, go watch Bake again. Those narrated dumps go on forever; think of Senjougarahara's backstory in crab and Kanbaru's in monkey.
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>>135826304
>>135826344
>>135826383
>>135826416
>>135828089
I think >>>/reddit/ is more your speed.
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>>135828010
>>135827881
Bake>>>Nise>NekoKuro=Tsuki>>Owari=S2>Hana
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>>135828149
I'm okay with this too.
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>>135828092
People have been pointing out that Araragi's situation is fucked up since Nise. Tsuki brought nothing whatsoever to the table and only spoonfed incredibly obvious plot details to people who apparently weren't paying attention for the entire series prior.
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I wonder if the western release of Kizu will have translated commentaries. Actually, I wonder what kind of commentary it will have in the first place.
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>>135828010
>>135828149
>Bake nostalgiafags don't like Hana
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>>135828222
Absolutely none
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I like hana's message.
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>>135828232
Hana was pretty fuckin poor. SHAFT really should have spent some money and had the basketball scene be all sakuga.
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>>135826867
Consider reading it. I'm a fag when it comes to reading and had the same mindset about spoilers by reading the novel, but I didnt regret it.
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>>135825728
That and its coming out way after the franchise peaked in popularity so it feels more so like an obligation than something special.
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>>135828304
Hana was really beautiful, but the basketball needed serious work. It's been way too long since we've gotten an extended sakuga scene.
>tfw the only sakuga in all of owari is kokorowatari flying down and splitting the shinai.
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Why the heck is it only an hour long?
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>>135828304
Hana was okay. Mainly because of Rouka and Kaiki.
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>>135821480
Yes, and?
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>>135821480
Hirano's Shinobu was possibly a little too moe cutesy fake. But, at least she would have sung some fucking OPs.
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>>135820742
>madoka.wakarimasen.co
wow, I didn't think anyone would remember this, or even care enough to bring it up again.

I've been busy with other stuff (I kind of let everything die), but I'll work on getting something up for kizu.
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>>135828544
If OPs are the only advantage, I`d take Sakamoto any day.
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>>135819601
From the preview, the girl looks like that dead, pink-haired trap. Do you guys get what I mean?
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>>135828603
I mean, without hearing her Kisshot it's pretty difficult to know who would have been better.
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>>135828304
Hana was the one time Shaft actually did SYMBOLISM right. It was also similar to Nise in that it told a really good story without actually telling it to you whatsoever.
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>>135828578
what was it
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>>135824537
Thank god we got Maaya.

KA KA
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>>135828660
There was a post earlier with Aya`s rendition:
my.mixtape.moe/zmniea.mp3
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>>135828675
I think it was damaging to Kanbaru and Kaiki as characters. Rouka wasn't too bad.
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>>135828316
I've read other Monogatari novels so it's not like I'm against reading itself but I really just want this movie to be my first experience with Kizu and considering I could've given in and read the novel any time in the last few years when the movie ever coming out seemed bleak, I'm definitely not giving in now that it has finally come out.
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>>135828728
That's her Shinobu, I'm saying without hearing her Kissshot it's difficult to know how good she could have been.
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>>135828778
Ah, right, I misread. Unfortunately, Kissshot is the minority role here, so I`ll bet on the clearly superior Shinobu.
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Yoh Yoshinari and Kou Yoshinari worked on Kizu
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>>135827244
fuck off redditgahara
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>>135828925
People are really trying to force this, aren't they.
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>>135828925
>>135828964
>The Very Imitation of a Meme.
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>>135828829
Who?
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>>135829006
>he doesn't know the Yoshinari brothers
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>>135829006
Little witch academia director and brother animator vid link related

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CXv3DHDW8AA619s.mp4
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>>135829057
>key animation look cleaner as the final product

Some people are wasted on mere anime productions.
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>>135829006
Two meme animators.
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>>135829057
Oh those guys. Alright.
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>>135828522
sasuga

that's what I want to see
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>>135829117
IIRC the genga at the top might have been the BD version of that cut and bottom was TV.
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>still no camrip
Wow seriously? Japs are usless as shit, fucking slanty eyed gooks.
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>>135829246
IT'S BEEN ONE DAY

ONE
N
E
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>>135829371
Not even 10 hours.
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>>135819911
>Though, the French and Morse code is probably a bit harsh for a first watch.
The absolute madmen.
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Koyomimonogatari when?
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>>135823548
Read then watch Kizu and then
http://pastebin.com/2S9KVnhR
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>>135824859
my duuuuuude
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>>135828578
Based as fuck.
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>>135824859
Can they announce the Music Box as a theater already?
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Hopefully it'll come to Australia sometime soon.
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>>135829803
Satiricon? Why?
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>>135824537
>link
That's a really limited sample, but it's more or less what I'd expect from Hirano. She'd probably be better at expressing Shinobu's childish aspects and general high-pitch banter, while Maaya is better at expressing her mature side (especially older forms).

That said, as someone who predominantly loves Shinobu for her maturity, I'm glad we got Maaya. Also I feel like Aya goes pretty overboard with the childishness in this case.
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How do you genuinely remember all the events from like fucking Bake, Nise or Neko

That was time ago, I legitimately couldn't pinpoint what each episode entailed yet some of you know all this shit like the back of your hands
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>>135830265
By rewatching?
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>>135830265
Rewatched the whole series before Owari. Turns out watching the later stuff actually puts a lot of the earlier stuff in perspective.
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>>135830265
Bake is really straightforward, making it easy to remember.
Nise gets rewatched a lot because it's fantastic.
Neko people just don't give a shit about.
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>>135830400
>Nise gets rewatched a lot because it's fantastic.
Woah.
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>>135830433
Nise is an underrated masterpiece.
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>>135830433
Nise is objectively the best Monogatari.
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>>135830433
It took like 2 years for /a/ to realize it wasn't just fanservice.
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>>135830478
Nise's plot is silly and the themes are nonsensical or at the very least, poorly thought out.

It's still pretty good though, second best after Bake.
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>>135830433
Nise is the most entertaining one of the lot
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>>135830560
The themes in Nise make sense but they aren't given a context other than people repeatedly restating them. In most other arcs the practical meaning of the themes are communicated through the events of the arc.
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>>135827668
YOU WILL FUCKING SEE ALL PARTS OF KIZU YOU HEAR ME
NO DEATH ALLOWED UNTIL THEN
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>>135830560
Eh second season had more interesting plot lines than Nise did. Nise was just dumb fun.
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>>135827668
You will live to see the other parts before you die damn it! You can hold out friend, we believe in you.
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>>135830949
SHAFT did a really good job making it fun, but Nisio was definitely trying to do interesting things with the plot; he just failed at much of it.
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>>135827668
Is canceranon a thing in 4ch?
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>>135831054
Probably, especially if those rumors of it having never been meant to be released are to be believed. I mean I appreciate what things Nise introduced that got expanded upon later, but over all it was okay.
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>>135831102
What board is that?
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>>135831131
No, it was always meant to be released. If you read the atogaki in context with all the others Nise isn't actually particularly non-canonical.

Those quotes were repurposed by Nise apologists, it's just a convenient excuse people like to come up with for the poor writing in Nise.

SHAFT also is to blame to an extent, they cut a few scenes that would have helped somewhat.
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>>135830560
>Nise
>ever better than Koimonogatari
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>>135822480
November for the third part if second part is in summer
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Since i feel the Kizu hype i uploaded best girl song for you guys, since it is nowhere else on the net.
https://soundcloud.com/maybelenne/shinobu-hopbatsu-x-edit-demo
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>>135831282
Ah I see. Which scenes were cut out in particular? I never read the Nise novels because because it's my least favorite part over all. Mostly watch the anime if I ever wanna revisit Nise.
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>>135831346
see >>135826562
It feels kind of essential to me, and it's strange that they didn't adapt it.
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>>135831322
It's a joke about part 2 being late rather than someone being optimistic about part 3
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Just came back from watching it, I'm not really a big monogatari fan or anything but it was a 5/10 movie to be honest. There were some nice moments and Shaft have really upped their game in terms of animation but overall it just felt boring and the trademark monogatari series fun dialogue was painfully lacking. Also asking full admission price for a 60 minute movie is a bit much.
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>>135829803
This is retarded.
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>>135827668
Dude... Best of luck I guess
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>>135827668
GAMBARE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERHfSisg__o
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http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4257472177
-Cat boob is literall sakuga
-Even more sakuga
-Have preview of next ep(Voice only)
-No new songs from Mayaa
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>>135827687
Updates on 3 hours later..
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>>135831903
>Have preview of next ep(Voice only)
Guess Shaft are still doing key animation for the second part.
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>>135830560
What exactly do you think Nise's plot was? Try giving a summary.
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>>135831903
Maaya is never going to do a character song.
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>>135821283
Both.
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We need a camrip just to compare the changes in the BD version.
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>>135831903
>-No new songs from Mayaa
How many more times do we have to go through this? Maaya Sakamoto is contracted for singing to JVC. That means she can only sing when JVC or one of their subsidiaries (usually Flying Dog) is on the production committee. This is why she could sing on the SHAFT production of Koufuku Graffiti, for example. And she refuses to do character songs anyway.
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>>135820049
That's nice then. French is also justified since all cultured people know that language anyway.
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>>135831499
God I'm dumb
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So
we're not getting a camrip right?

Well, good luck on your next 8 months of wait for the BDs bros.
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>>135832031
There are still retards who, after nearly 4 years, still don't realize Nise had a plot.

They even fell for the "Bake wasn't supposed to get a sequel" meme.
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>>135822921
>"this year is 2012"
Love you, Kamiya
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>>135832415
Nise had a plot, it just wasn't very good.
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>>135832471
In what way? Try being specific.
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So can we say that Shaft delievered a modern masterpiece?
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>>135832527
We can but doing so without seeing the movie first would be very irresponsible and uninformed.
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>>135832527
We can't say that until the other two films have been released.
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>>135831231
It was /h/ when people who never watched Magipoka kept making threads about a Seisimic game that got delayed for more than one year.
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I just found out that you can see it here in Munich. Anybody going to see it?
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>3 60-minute movies
What were they thinking? If they really needed to split it up two with 90 would have been a lot more reasonable.
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>>135832696
>What were they thinking?
We can be jews.
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>>135832696
This movie has been in development for like 10 years. They have to make their money back somehow.
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>>135832680
Maybe.
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>>135832680
I wonder if there are any otaku refugees who will go see it.
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>>135825425
I'm the guy who did Princess Beauty and the first Koi commentary some time ago. I would love to help, but I'm busy with stuff for a few months. If you haven't found anyone by March try again in these threads.
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>>135832475
burden of proof isn't on the person saying it's not good because that's the the null hypothesis
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