Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1364

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なるべく諦めない！
なせば大抵なんとかなる！

Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
When I grew up, I had a lot of fun ski racing with my friends. We pushed each other, and this made it easier to work hard.

>>135766465
>>135766453
>>135766423
Fuck off.

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Your efforts are never going to amount to anything.

>There's no special screen for leveling up on WaniKani
Dropped.

Are there any other amusing people teaching japanes except namasensei? don't really care if you learn something or not just feel like watching something fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGxvUZQ6U_0

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>>135766504
Not cool, mate. It's no good if you don't feel the motivation running through your spine and lifting your spirit.

>>135766723
why isn't obama crying like a bitch nigga?

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>>135766767
Because he still had some spirit in him back then. It then left him together with the colour in his hair.

>>135766677
https://www.youtube.com/user/kanadajin3

Remember that Wanikani is the key to success!

>>135766938
He was asking for something fun, not something to cringe at

>>135766938
She's super shit.

>>135766938
will watch that tomorow thanks and godnight

>>135767028
WaniKani is a good supplement to studies.
I'd go Anki + your grammar guide of choice + WaniKani

>>135767035
>>135767032
Kanadajin3 is our girl and if you don't like her you should fuck off because you don't belong here

>>135767046
on secound thought will not watch that tomorow godnight anyway
>>135767032
>>135767035

What should I read next?

>廿日
うわっ

>>135767132
https://vndb.org/v14806

>>135767132
よつばと！

>>135767132
Go read some of Abe's speeches

>>135767132
Whatever you want.

>>135767215
He doesn't want to read that boring shit.

>>135767201
I don't understand this fetish. Do you self insert as the dog? Why would you want to be a dog? If you self insert as the girl then you're literally taking a dick and that's gay bro.

>>135767201
>Consensual Sex with Animals
>Doggy
>Dogs

>>135767301
You're making me mad.

>>135767304
And I don't understand self insertion.

>>135767304
>Not wanting to be a dog hanging out and fucking girls OR wanting to be a girl taking the knot.
I don't think you belong here ...

>>135767091
You don't belong here if you like 3dpd.

>>135767304
You just enjoy the girl getting soiled. Pretty much the same as interracial.

>>135767091
DJT's epic "mislead newcomer" memes are crossing the line lately with the Wanikani shilling and now this.

>>135767516
WaniKani is the real deal, you dumb cunt.

>>135767354
What are you going to do about it?

>>135767516
It's fine though, if they can't even be bothered to read the OP you shouldn't care about their progress either.

>>135767516
Sorry. I do try to answer questions when people have them as well so I don't think I'm pure cancer.

Downloading that dog VN. Hot shit boi.

>>135758430
There isn't really a recommended route order for Flyable Heart, but in my opinion you should save either Mayuri or Yui for last, since they are the best routes.

>>135767689
>Wanting to wade through shit for 90% of the game
Do the good routes and drop the game after that.

>>135767929
All the routes are good, but some are better than others. And you can't do the final one until you've finished all of the other routes.

>>135767649
You're a fucking loser, you.

>>135767450
thanks anon, this was really really funny

>tfw you've been spending most of your time on Anki and WaniKani and not doing grammar.
I'm never going to read.

give me some compelling content

>>135768297
same, I wanna have a base of vocabulary before I delve into grammar, I just don't know how much is enough

>>135768232
It's true, though. There's nothing better than having a girl fucked by someone of significantly lower status, be it an orc, servant, nigger or a dog.

>>135768297
The DoJG Anki deck is perfect for grammar study and review.

>>135768370
Both at the same time, nigboy.

Anyone know any characters that have 5 or more kana as a pronunciation, like 承る & 志?

>>135768501
www.akatsukinishisu.net/kanji/nagakun/

>>135768378
I love woman soldiers getting defeated and raped (impregnated is best) hoo boy.

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Can someone tell me what the fuck does "リスナー：先生” mean here.

what you see more, 去年 or 昨年

>>135768766
listener teacher

>>135768773
They're both pretty common

>>135768851
Yeah and what is that?

>>135768900
well feck

Believe in the glory of God and he will help you learn Japanese.

>>135768766
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/リスナー

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>>135768636
It's best when they're princesses.

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I've been on a break (read: given up) for the last month or so.

Is the predominant doctrine here still:
>learn kana
>tae kim
>core2k
>read and mine for the next few years until you git gud

Or is there a new trend now? The reason I gave up for a while is that I found myself hopeless and floundering after finishing Core2k, which made me extremely discouraged. Kinda felt like all the work I put into Core2k was for nothing in the end.

>>135768967

Wanikani and rosetta stone are the new popular methods.

>>135768967
Most people recommend WaniKani + Anki + Tae Kim/Jap Manga Way/Genki and VNs after that.

You shouldn't have completely stopped, you fucking faggot.

>>135768967
Core6k and Wanikani.

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>>135769069

>>135769073
>>135769079
>WaniKana
wat

Last time I was here, general opinion was that it was just a shittier, slower, paid version of Core.

>can recognize kana on flashcards immediately
>hesitate when seeing them anywhere else

Guess I can't learn Japanese.

>>135769142
Anki/Core are switching to a paid model. Wani is superior now that the free advantage is gone.

>>135768967
WK is what I personally use.

>>135769142
They had a big sale during Christmas and a lot of people got a subscription. Opinions changed fast when people actually got to try it out.

>>135769142
It's trolling

>>135769142
Wanikani sent shills around New Years to promote the site for all that New Years Resolution money. Now we have shills and people who are pretending to like it to make everyone else angry.

>>135769191
>Anki/Core are switching to a paid model.
It is open source, it won't happen.

>>135769191

:^)

>>135769293
>Anki
>open source
In your dreams, mate.

>>135769286
Thought so. >>135769191 confirmed it.

So basically the general idea of what the best way to learn Japanese is is still the same?

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>>135769346

what does グギャギャ mean?

cannot find anything-

>>135769543
Okay, where are all the improved fan builds then? Checkmate.

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Why are knights always feeling deja vu?

Because they have 騎士感

>>135769789

If only you would have done Wanikani you'd know.

>>135769789
Context would help. Where did you see/hear it.

>>135769800
https://ankiweb.net/shared/addons/

Why is Busty Aichan so expensive? Can you even stick your weeny in it or is it just a pair or breasts?

>>135769856
pigmen fucking an elf for 2 weeks in the ass

>>135767201
Oh man it has all kinds of animals. I was thinking it would just be dogs.

Can I become fluent in 3 months?

>>135770040
You could maybe learn Hiragana in three months.

>>135770040
Yes. In fact, I think there's a youtube series about a guy achieving just that

>>135769880
Nah, that's just bullshit. I want a proper separate release of Anki with cool new features.

>posting tits to distract people
from >>135769543
This is getting sad. That particular site's program has been ripped and ironically functions better on Anki, which is free and open source with forks ready if the devs attempt to put up a paywall for using their servers for account syncing.

WK program made in superior and FREE Anki deck:
https://mega.nz/#F!ZR80ST4I!T-UAh6nbx-snsiifhQM85Q

>>135770088
Why bother? The base program is fine and cool new features are added through addons. What's the difference between an addon and a separate release with just the addon added?

>>135770133
It's about prestige. Everyone knows that addon devs are just cucks.

>>135770040
No. To paraphrase Godking Steve, you can get a long way in a language closely related to English in 3 months if you study hard, but you're not going to get fluent in any language in such a short time.

>>135770179
What does prestige got to do with yer Japanese studyin?

>>135770415
Your sad kind wouldn't understand, of course.

>>135770469
Did you forget the topic? >>135769346

>>135770493
The topic is pride, honour and dignity. You're probably a nigger if you don't understand these concepts.

>>135767132
Bushido

>>135770133
>What's the difference between an addon and a separate release with just the addon added?
What's the difference between gold plating and solid gold?

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My tutor recommended the song 夏祭り to listen to since I asked him what songs are popular and accessible.

Now I ask the same question to you, /djt/. What Japanese songs are relatively simple to pick up, catchy enough to get stuck in my head, and good for a beginner to listen to for meaning?

>>135770770
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wimcWsmdYJQ

店員さんに震え声でオススメを聞き、言われるがまま『ミールス』と『マサラドーサ』なる料理をオーダーした。

What is the なる doing in there? Should it not be a という or something?

>>135770770
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-akcg0O6jc

>>135770899
The adjective particle "な" is descended from なる and sometimes the latter is still used

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>>135770832
Got me anon.

>>135770934
I like this one, but if I told my tutor about it, would it blow the lid off my power level?

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>>135770899
ちょっと古い言い回しなのかなあという感じだよ
たとえばこんなかんじに

>その女と男、夫婦（めをと）なり

>>135771046
Why would you tell him about it? I guess go for more normies songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmnwAQRD-2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atc0ERea7nE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izv4T2xHxAc
Don't know how easy these are to listen to though, they get stuck in my hea

>>135771124
>Why would you tell him about it?
Well, I'd listen to the song, piece together what I could of the meaning, and ask him for clarification about the rest.

Either way, thanks a lot for the songs.

"ところがどっこい、「ナンのないインド料理屋がある」というではないか。しかも「ちょっと高級店で味も他とは違う」らしい。ナンがない高級インド料理店だと……？　しかも他とは味も違うだって……？　確かめるしかないぜ！　というわけで、東京は東銀座の『ダルマサーガラ』に行ってみたのでご紹介したい！"

On the contrary, "A resturant without naan exists" cant exist right? Moreover it seems to be, " where the the flavor is different from high class restaurants".

A resturant where there is no naan?? Morever the flavor is different? I've got to check this out! With that said let me introduce you to Ginza of Tokyo's "Darumasa Gara".

Im confused. It seems he switches from a question to a remark unnaturally in the first two questions.

>>135771168
ではないか is retorical or whatever you want to call it. Like じゃん/じゃないか et.c. He's saying affirming the statement.

>>135771168
Also, it's especially apparent that it's retorical here as it's ungrammatical for the copula to follow a verb like that. It only ever does when it's used retorically like this.

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臍

>>135771891
>臍
This kanji seriously nas "nya" in it.

What do you guys do when you are simply too busy in the day to finish your reps? What's the best course of action?

>>135772137
I finish my reps. It's impossible to be so busy that you don't have a few minutes to spare.

>>135772137
I am never too busy to do reps because I keep them down to 30-60 minutes a day and I never am legitimately so pressed for time I can't spare that much.

>>135772137
finish your reps

>>135772137
Never happened to me. There's almost no excuse if you have Anki on your phone.

>>135772137
I never not do my reps.

does ピン mean something other than an actual "pin"? is it slang for something?

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Show me how you study your kanji based anons.

I use Anki with full set of Jouyou kanji and add stuff from kanjidamage and tangorin because teh deck has none of those. I expect to finish it by the end of the year at the latest.

>>135772294
>Gaijin scratch
NO

>tfw i have to shitpost in djt before i can muster the courage to open anki

>>135771046
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_w7qLwhFog

>>135772294
>Chinese
Oh well, at least you're closer than the guy who spent a few months learning 'Japanese' (Thai).

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>>135772294
Didn't write shit in ages, all I do now is read and watch anime.

>>135772392
>Grid paper
>Not staying within the lines

>>135770770
https://youtu.be/QTMjtEcQHls

What's the Japanese for mole, the birth mark.

Is it
>moguro
>hokuro

>>135772535
It's 'koumon.'

>>135772392
lmao what deck are you using

some of those characters are oddly specific and uncommon

>>135772599
Was using just a regular jouyou kanji deck at the time.

I didn't touch Anki in ages.

>>135772246
if it helps, this is the sentence it's used in
あたしピンだと辛いってさ

yo if you a gay nigga gtfo

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>>135772486
あのんくん、そのうたはずっこい

>>135772294
You should start scribbling that shit on your walls. At least it'd give your mom a good kick.

>>135772760
WHAT IS THIS GUY SAYING?

>>135772835
>guy
fuck off newfag

>>135772835
He wants to suck your dick

>>135772760
>あのんくん
>ずっこい

Apply yourself.

>>135772760
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BuVopxGbJ0

Watch that and learn something, you dirty little jap.

>>135772760
Fake and gay

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>>135772922
Now this is bait.

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>>135772705
ピンは、「ひとつ」のことだよ。おにいちゃん

>「あたしピンだと辛いってさ」
の文脈なら
>女「わたしは彼氏がいないと淋しいみたいなの」
の意味になるよ

でも通じないこともあると思うからゆめゆめ使い方にはちゅういしてね。

>>135772968
>woman talking about shopping
kek

Has anyone tried Slime Forest? Looks cute and all, just wondering if it's helped anyone.

>>135773213
Slime Forest changed my life.

>>135773213
Why would you use that when you can just use Influent like a normal person

>>135773213
Do anki instead
I think it's funny. There's literally a perfect program available, and yet there's still discussion about all the plain inferior programs. It's funny that even when a clearly and objectively superior program exists, people will still muddle about in inferiority for individual reasons. I wonder what drives that.

>>135773383
I still do my daily reps in Anki, read, listen, etc. but I like to know about other helpful resources

>>135773383
Looking for shortcuts that don't exist.

>>135773486
That's all you need. Anki to memorize, read/listening to practice and further memorize. There's no other resource you need.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M9K4mGUU0A

>>135773609
so no point in kanjidamage deck? i was considering that in addition to core2/6k
(im not the anon that mentioned slime forest)

>>135773665
Eh? I mean, sure. I didn't say anything about individual decks. Whatever works best for you man.

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>>135773654
strangely relevant.

>>135773654
It's abuse to overfeed your pets on purpose.

>>135773723
cool ill try it out if it wont do any harm

For me personally nothing beats WaniKani in terms of retaining information.

>>135773765
How do the last two work?

>>135773791
Me too, man. Anki just can't compete.

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>>135773791
There's nothing wrong with taking 2 years to learn 2000 kanji.

>>135773933
3 kanji a day is way more than actual jap kids have to handle. Just ask imouto, it took him ten years to learn all the required characters.

>>135774061
You're supposed to copy the text, not take a screenshot of it.

>>135774132
Fuck the police.

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>>135773916
５個、ぜんぶ使えるよ。

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>>135774132

I'll do my best tomorrow.

>>135774132
Literally why would I do that you stupid fucking cuck? Kill yourself.

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>>135774499
This is really rude.

>>135774609
Sorry he made me mad.

i've been using it for 1.5 years now. i'm on level 29 of 60 (~800 kanji and 2000+ vocab?). i did not do anything else to study Japanese during that time and have recently started studying grammar (a dictionary of basic japanese grammar, genki and tae kim's guide). being able to read the kanji makes unfamiliar text muc hless intimdating.

i recently started using lang-8 and found thtat i can have basic conversations with non-native speakers.
i like wanikani becaause i'm not very disciplined. if i had to learn the vocab or kanji on my own via something like rtk, i would get tired one day or tell myself that i really did understand the kanji i was learning and move on.
with wanikani, i don't have to think about learning and the system punishes you for not logging in daily( not a problem on lower levels but a serious problem on higher levels). reviews accumulate even if you don't log in. if you go waway for a week, you'll come back with 500 or 1000 reviews-- then there goes your whole saturday or even weekend.
i mentioned that i've been on wanikani for for 1.5 years but am less than half way through the material. i've got a full time job and am also learning french at the moment for work. if you are a university student taking japanese, have lots of freetime, or are livign in japan , you will likely find that it is much faster to move through the revies.

i paid full price for lifetime which is expensive ($250?) but worth it for my purposes. if you can a discount, it is an even better value but why not try the first few levels and see if it is for you.
keep in mind, it starts off slow and requires you to start from nothing. you can't jump to level 5 if you already know the most frequent 100 kanji.

ganbatte. good luck!

>>135774185
I see a nipple. See you in a few days imouto.

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>>135772705
>>135773069
通じないってのは、聞き手と話し手の関係で意味が全然違うかもしれない。たとえば

>女芸人「わたしは相方を探さないと漫才師として食べて行けないって言われた」

かもね

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Fuck me, I've somehow failed this shit at least 7 times in a row, even though I made sure to enter it exactly as I saw it.

It's your lucky day, Imouto.

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>>135775066
>salied deesrap
I only get these pictures

>>135775214
>salied deesrap
so these are the people i'm sharing this thread with

唐突だけど、イモウトって誰？

>>135775440
ctrl f imouto. (incl the . )

>sit is すわる not さわる
fug

>Restarting on TKs grammar guide for the third time.
Fuck. I get through some of it then I quit for a week.

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>>135775964
Do you keep up with Anki? If so, you may want to add the DOJG deck to your anki and only do cards containing grammar you've covered in TK. That way, even if you quit TK (which you shouldn't do), you'll retain what you already learned much better.

>>135775964
Just start reading.

>>135776016
Oh boy, mr soapbox is back.

>>135776106
Sorry, what? Can't hear you from all the way down there.

>>135776016
Give it a rest already.
desustorage.org/a/search/image/dCKkwnloSqqJubECy0hj4Q%3D%3D

Just finished tae kim's grammar guide. I suppose that now I just keep attempting to read until I'm not a slow retard.

>>135776334
Yes, plus DOJG deck in anki

>>135776022
Can you start reading without reading all of it?

>>135776432
When you say the DOJG deck, which one is it? There's like 4 in the OP link. What's style B?

>>135776484
Yea, but you're basically limited to Tae Kim and Genki

>>135776484
Sure. You're going to be struggling with vocab when you first start reading anyway. It's a different beast from Anki.

>>135776484
You could read either Yotsuba with the Reading Pack or maybe NHK News Easy articles with Rikaisama to assist you with vocab

>>135776553
DoJG.apkg
That one.

>>135776640
I can't find the reading pack. What the fuck?

>>135776695
Isn't it in the link in the OP?

>>135776695

What's it like being this mentally retarded?

>>135776695
Google works if you can't find it in the Guide or CoR.

>>135776760
The fucking thing's a mess. I went through it and there was nothing that looked like a reading pack in there.

>>135776805
Eat a dick, you cunt.

what does the ち in 気持ちstand for?

>>135776835
ちんちん

>>135776833
I think the first part is freely available so you can just google it

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>>135776267
>all them results
Jesus, how embarrassing

>>135776930
http://desustorage.org/a/search/image/NWMq1iF699V4d1LFLxU_DQ/

You are just as bad, to be fair.

>>135776930
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>>135777074
>>135777075
C'mon guise

>>135776835
>持つ
>持ち
>気持ち
>???

>>135777111
>>135776930

Fuck off, you retard.

>>135777111
Stop attaching the same image over and over to your posts and learn what an anonymous image board means.

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>>135776930
oh, look. it's this guy again

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You guys sure like using the same images all the time

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>しなきゃ is short for しないと

I hope this starter pack doesn't contain more subtle bullshit

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>>135777111
In all honesty, we mainly dislike you because you're a bit of dick, not because of the image.
You know, the guy who always spoils the party.

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>>135777294
>>135777211
>>135777200
I'm not gonna take any of your criticism seriously because I've been posting with both of those images pretty consistently for eight months and no one said a single word of complaint until the guy pointed it out yesterday.
>>135777351
I dunno, I think that's just taking me out of context a little bit, to quote Cor-Kun's final post (or one of them) "we're all a faggot inside". Naturally when people are obnoxious about image use I'm gonna troll a little back, I mean how else do you react to people taking 4chan so seriously? If you look through the post history of both of those images I think there's generally an amicable tone.

Anyway, I'm gonna stop replying to people pointing out the images thing, it'll encourage'm to derail the thread and just makes me look bad. またあした～

>>135777477
Do you have a link to that quote? I is kind of funny because I don't think there has been anyone else who took djt as seriously has CoR-Kun and it resulted in something rather brilliant.

>obnoxious

>>135777604
No, Archive is dead, but I was the one he said it to so I remembele it well. For any old-fags, the scenario was that whenever someone said "I'm about N3" level or somesuch, someone would start pestering them "where's your certificate? show your certificate?" and it got really annoying, and eventually it came to light that the certificate-spammer guy was none other than CoR-Kun himself, and I said "wow, cor-kun is a faggot...?" and he said said quote, or something to the effect.

It's meaningful I think because it's easy for anyone here to be a faggot and make stupid shitty posts, or mean posts, etc etc, while still being ultimately a good person or whatever sappy junk like that.

>>135777690
I think what he actually wanted to say was that you're a faggot.

When do I get to penetrate some sluts in sei shoujo?

>>135777346
Where does it say that?　I don't see it in your image.

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>>135777189
>気持ち
feel / feeling / feelings

>お気持ち
>お気持ちだけ
a small gift

>気の持ち様（よう）
Is the glass half empty or half full?

>>135777889
IIRC it's like day 7 before any sex starts, and then some days after that of just cunnilingus/fellatio to warm'r up. Lots of build up.

>>135777690
We have a different memory as what I recall at the time was rampant anti-jlpt shitposting and CoR-Kun was one of the few posters to take the people to task. Reason for remembering is because I got involved in one of the arguements, which also involved massive strawmen which involved language classes and speaking/production. Gave up because it was clear the anons didn't care about being reasonable and were instead pushing the currently accepted "DJT Approved Only Way To Learn Japanese". I've seen it change over time.
Looks like he was being nice and calling you a faggot indirectly.

>>135777931
I don't know if I can last that long with the pace I'm reading.

>>135777974
I agree with your interpretation of the events retrospectively, but at the time it was just annoying because he'd derail actual discussions.
>Looks like he was being nice and calling you a faggot indirectly.
Definitely not, that's a pretty dumb interpretation and you know it too.

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I hope these lessons don't contain more subtle bullshit

>>135778189
What do you have a problem with in that sentence?

Xth for W a n i k a n i

Fuck. Every time I start trying to read yotsuba I get through a line or two and want to stop because looking up words is so tiring and sucks the fun out of it. It's taken me like a week to get to page 54.

>>135778292
It took me two weeks to read my first volume of manga and that was only 180 pages. I had also read a whole series of graded readers first. No pain no gain.

>>135778252
Particle use

>>135778292
Do you have the starter pack? It's easy to look up words with that.

>>135778378
I don't see anything wrong with the particle use there, what specifically do you think is incorrect?

>>135778292
Stop reading altogether, learn more vocab/kanji, then go back to reading

/djt/ makes it sound like you must read no matter what, when really, you can put it off for a bit if it's so painful you can't even enjoy it. Remember, the most efficient way to learn is to have fun

>>135778278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNMUtCoEmqs

Enjoy the official WaniKani theme.

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>>135778438
>Remember, the most efficient way to learn is to have fun

>>135778395

I looked at the sentences and noticed there isn't one for every page so I just stopped using it. Sometimes if I'm really stumped I'll open the file and hope that the sentence I didn't understand was explained.

>>135778438

I'm taking a break from vocab and doing radicals while I build a deck from words I saw in yotsuba, this thread and various places, and in anime because I failed core hard and need a different approach. Seems reading is the only way I can learn and I can hardly do that.

>>135778602
It has an HTML/PDF file that defines the new words in every sentence. Particularly helpful for all the slang.

>>135778414
見つかる doesn't take を(?). Rather, 見つける does. But 見つける doesn't take に.

>>135778602
>hope that the sentence I didn't understand was explained.
That's mostly what it's for

>>135778794
The を refers to 隠す...

And if you think 子供に見つからないように is incorrect, all I can say is read more.

>>135778552
That creature is pretty fearsome. Someone needs to draw it raping the fuck out of dekinai.

>>135778893
If を refers to 隠す then に must as well, though?

Is もうすぐ not in Core 2k/6k Optimized? It's the first vocab word in Yotsuba, and it's not in the respective Yotsuba deck.

>>135779047
No...

>>135779169
m8...

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>>135779116
> it's not in the respective Yotsuba deck.

>>135779116

Looks like it wasn't quite optimized enough.

>>135779194
I don't really understand why you have these odd ideas. Japanese sentence structure is extremely flexible. I guess if you're doing basic grammar like ように it's to be expected that your knowledge is lacking, but why is your instinct to assume that a native speaker is wrong instead of that you must be missing something?

>>135779321
It's not that flexible. You can't mix clauses with each other like some mad man.

>>135779391
Read more.

>>135779321
Besides, native speakers fuck up the distinction between が and を often. Google "を好きな"

>>135779423
Apparently it hasn't done you any good.

>>135779436
You're a fucking beginner doing Genki-tier basic grammar, you don't know shit about Japanese and you should just shut up and absorb what's in front of you instead of trying to question it like a retard. No more replies, whether or not you learn Japanese is up to you.

>tfw want some お粥 because so many VN characters eat it

>>135779501
Google を見つか yourself then and see how often it's misused. And don't conflate me watching basic youtube videos with what I know about Japanese.

Anon wants to learn Japanese.
But instead of doing his reps, he's whining over retarded things in an online imageboard.

Good job, anon-kun.

When should I start learning radicals?

LとRの違いってなに

most japanese cannnot distinguish the pronouciation between grass and glass

Does this sentence make sense to anyone?

数はこちらの半分より多いくらいだが、今にも放たれんばかりにギリギリと弓が引き絞られている。

Is it
The numbers are about more than half this side/ours but the bows, pulled to the verge of being fired, are not yet released.

I feel like it would flow if it was 少ない instead of 多い. But it's 多い. Why the だが then? I just can't get a feel for it.

>>135779694
At times が just means "and" and doesn't carry any contrastive meaning.

>>135779644
At least you learned something.

>>135779644
I already did my reps though.

>>135780302

Do them again.

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hey
I am Japanese

LとRの違いってなに

most japanese cannnot distinguish the pronouciation between grass and glass

>>135780464
One is l and the other is r you dumb slantyeyes.

>>135780464
I'm consistently amazed how far the Japanese have gotten considering how god damn stupid they are and how limited their language is.

>>135780513
Japanese is superior to all other languages of course.
english? huh, it's low variation to express.

>>135780513

English is pretty stupid and limited as well, tbqh.

Does きゃく somehow translate to dance? There's an ability in Dragon Quest called みかわしきゃく which is Dodgy Dance in the English versions of Dragon Quest. みかわし is clearly dodge (Well kinda. Every dictionary I've read, including J>J says "exchange glance" basically, but it's pretty obvious that it's evade/evasion), but きゃく... I have no idea, I haven't been able to link it with dance for the life of me, and no meaning of きゃく I've seen makes any sense in this context.

>>135780464
That's probably because english has a pussy ass bitch pronunciation of r.
If you heard a real r you'd hear the difference.

>>135780638
Maybe it's pot assassin? What does the ability actually do?

>>135780638
Probably 脚 read as kyaku

>>135780621
English is the easiest language to express what you mean.

Do you go to any other djt themed threads on other chans? I l've come across three djt clones on 8ch and one on wizardchan. There is that reddit board using the op stuff but that is more like general forum than a chan. How come /int/ doesn't use the op links for that Japanese thread?

>>135780933
Three on 8ch? I know of the one on /a/ but where are the other two?

>>135780933
I don't bother with other chans. I waste enough time here.

all literature Novel Prize should be prized to Japanese literature
that is Western self musterbation prize mo more

>>135780681

Just increases your evasion rate.

Oh, so feet, but read as kyaku. Makes sense.

>>135780933
/int/ doesn't because they know /djt/'s guide is shit. A bunch of Internet autists think they know better than the entire academic community of Japanese language instructors? Don't make me laugh.

>>135780969

Who gives a shit about normalfag prizes?

>word appears
>hit enter
>so confident that you're going to get it right that you hit 3 before you've even glanced at the answer
>you got it wrong

>>135780994
wot?

>>135781002
>Not typing out the answers.
Uh ... ?

>>135780992
>>>/int/53209360
>How to Learn Japanese
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jrMXTVapkGlYSyQDwppETbz62ltcknJITQ7ll6bH8QM/edit?pli=1#
Boy I bet you feel stupid

>>135780992

The guide basically just lists to anki + pirated copies of other materials, what's so bad about it?

Also, I can guarantee that no one here has read any scholastic literature on the art of translation (myself included, but I got a copy of some book for free that I haven't read yet).

>go to /int/
>notice that a lot of the foreigner's Japanese is awkward or wrong
So this is the power of anime...
I won't comment though in case I get BTFO'd or am wrong. I will be content to feel superior afar

>>135781074
You'd have a different tune if people were stealing material you worked hard to create.

>>135781063

That's interesting. Looks like they actually have more than one jp poster and actually talk in japanese over there so that's kinda cool. Overall seems kind of shitty though.

/int/ might as well be reddit.

父はまだ若いつもりだ.

Can this be interpreted as <the reader> believes <some person's father> is still young?

The official translation states its the father who believes himself to be young.

>>135781375
Dad thinks he's young.

>>135780992

The education system is ruined in regards to language learning by education politics and being held to an inflexible structure that doesn't really fit language learning. Even if every relevant member of the faculty and the teachers know what SHOULD be done when you want to learn a language, that's not what they're going to teach you in class. At best, they'll advise students to do these things on top of their course work.

Why?

Firstly, there's a question of measuring progress AT LEAST once per semester, and using uniform measures for every single person in the classroom. If you're letting the students do as they please and read and listen to whatever they find compelling, just so long as they put in the time, how do you develop a uniform measure? Do you treat it like a study hall, where the student just reads and listens to whatever they like and approaches the teacher with any questions they might have, and are graded by attendance alone? If so, how do you count this towards any kind of degree? Or do you maybe have them take a more generalized test for all levels, and compare how far along they are with how far along they should be, given the time? If so, how do you determine a fair level?

Second, in regards to the current system where they railroad the learner every step of the way, there's incentive to move at such a slow pace that the courses leave off at an intermediate level. If students drop or fail the class because it's too hard, that looks bad on the teacher. If it happens school-wide, that looks bad on the school. So, the first two years are designed for the dumbest, least motivated, most easily intimidated, all around worthless little shits that you could imagine.

In the current education environment, studying on your own is undoubtedly the best path.

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>>135781375
ダウンタウンはもう若くない

>>135779321
>why is your instinct to assume that a native speaker is wrong instead of that you must be missing something?

>he doesn't know that kento is korean

>>135780950
On /a/, on an alternative /a/ - /acute/ or something, and on a small jp/int type board. Could have died out by now. Asking because I found one out of boredom looking around on other chans and saw that an anon involved in the djt op make a post in the wizard clone of this thread and wondered if anons here made these threads on other known chans or if they were made by outsider anons after seeing this thread.

Image boards are fun to explore and see what comes out of 4chan or what might have come into 4chan. It is a bit like exploring streets in old foreign cities. Bit OT though.

>>135781600
Man, you typed out all that and I was just shitposting. I feel kind of bad now.

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>>135781692
>Unironically learning Japanese from Koreans

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「デキナイから発光信号を送って来ています。」
　オペレーターがささやくように報告した。
「解読してみろ」
　ＤＪＴが沈黙しているので、名無しさんがうながした。その声も低く乾いている。
「解読します……日本語を話せること無理ので、降伏せよ、寛大なる処遇を約束す……」
　解読が繰り返されて終わると、無数の視線と無数の沈黙が、ＤＪＴの巨体に突き刺さった。そのすべてが、司令官に決断をうながしている。
「降伏だと……」
　うめいたＤＪＴの顔は、どす黒く変色していた。
「いや、おれは無能であっても卑怯者にはなれん」
　二〇秒後、白い閃光が彼らを包んだ。
holy shit this fucking pissed me off

>>135781850
Translation?

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>>135781923
Rough, fast just to get the idea across, made a couple small errors out of laziness:
「It's a signal from Dekinai.」
The operated reported so in a quite whisper.
「Decode it.」
DJT had sunk into silence, so Anonymous urged the operator on, his throat low and dry.
「Decoding... It's impossible to learn Japanese, so give up. Submit, and I'll promise to treat you leniently.」
After the message was decoded, numerous silent eyes gathered on DJT's large body. The decision was entirely up to him.
「Give up, you say...」
DJT face darkened.
「No, even if I'm powerless, I won't become a coward.」
20 seconds later, a bright white light enveloped him.

(DJT = https://gineipaedia.com/wiki/Moore)
(Anonymous = https://gineipaedia.com/wiki/Jean_Robert_Lapp)
(This is the opening scene where these two of course are killed, really early in the novel, it pisses me off because it Lapp was a fucking smart awesome dude and his fucking superior led to his death by being an obdurate shithead, anyway I thought it'd be funny to turn into a DJT thing. Though now that I re-look at it, it makes him seem like a hero in a way.)

>>135781923
djt gives me the pleasure of being cummed inside

>>135782322
It's more like

Give me the please of being cummed inside

t. DJT

>>135782385
I copy/pasted that from a book. Just changed the names.

Why don't you have a crunchyroll premium membership?

>>135782511

Because bought the lifetime wanikani package instead of paying for sub par translations.

>>135769346
https://github.com/dae/anki
https://github.com/dsnopek/anki-sync-server

>>135780933
Y'know fuck reddit. They act all high and mighty and superior yet they fall prey to the stupidest schemes designed to ensnare single digit IQ morons. They think they're so much better than everyone yet they spend years with their shitty grammar books.

The funny thing is, even though they linked our CoR, 99% of them aren't ever going to use it because they'll just quit at beginner level.

While this thread is full of autistic unlikeable NEETs at least we know how to set our mind to achieving a goal and STUDYING SMART.

>>135782847
>they
>we
>our
And not a single I in sight. I hope you're not leeching of others' achievments.

>>135783029

we wuz kangz n shit

Japanese culture is really intriguing...............im so jealous the japanese................beautiful .

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Guys, a hand with this blurry kanjis? they are driving me nuts

>>135783133

su............subarashiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>135783159
First one goes for free : 時

>>135782847
I don't really know a lot about reddit or their Japanese board/subforum aside from the guide which was linked a thread or two ago, containing things from this thread. What caught my interest mainly was seeing that present in conjunction with someone claiming to have been part of making the op stuff, posting on another chan. It got me thinking, are these anons or anon who were part of making this thread also involved with making other djt clones, like seed germination on a cyber hillside spreading the genes throughout the valley.

Kind of poetic in a way don't you think? This thread acting a bit like the tree in the middle of a forest. Or a grove, maybe a thicket; something small and covered in thorns.

>>135783185
彼

>>135783159
待乗動

>>135783159
待乗動
って感字

>>135783334
ダジャレ？

>>135783328
>>135783334
TYVM

>>135783364
そうかも

>>135783375
Thank You Very Much?
Might be the first time I've ever seen this abbreviation? Brave new world and shit.

>>135783413
It was pretty decent. Warranted a chuckle.

>>135783029
I've read somewhere around 40-50 volumes of manga, dropped FH, read through 1 LN and am almost done with the 2nd volume. Also I tried to read Bakemonogatari for shit and giggles and to actually gauge how hard it actually is and stopped at the 100 page mark because it was torture.

I've never skipped a day of Anki despite no matter how exhausted I was or how late it was so I can be absolutely sure that I am always making progress.

I never act arrogant or pompous. When people correct me I accept that I was wrong and don't throw a tantrum like some idiots do. Here's a fun anecdote: When I was a beginner who hadn't even started Core, I posted this really fucking shitty translation of a Non Non Biyori fanart. I will never forget the shit I received for doing that.

I never gave advice when I was in the beginner stage. This is something I know for a fact that reddit users do which is extremely fucking retarded. Of course now I do answer people when they ask questions in this thread but only when I'm absolutely sure it's correct.

Now, I know I still have a long way to go before I can finally read novels without using a dictionary. But I am 100% sure that I will reach that point because of the discipline and habits that I have cultivated over my time learning Japanese and enjoy it too (besides the anki grinding at least).

>>135783469
That's cool but what has this got to do with your weird kneejerk judgement of people studying Japanese who post on reddit.

>>135783258
I know for one that the guy who converted the 青空文庫 files went to 8ch last year because he got really mad at the RTK shitposting. I think he does visit time to time though.

Yeah and I do think it would be pretty cool if more and more people started using our guide. I've considered linking it to help people in threads in other forums I go to where people learn Japanese but in the end I always pussied out because it might attract unwanted attention here.

>>135783543
They're untermensch.

>>135783554
>went to 8ch last year because he got really mad at the RTK shitposting
I thought he said he was leaving because he thought Hiro was going to ruin 4chan and didn't want to be here for it? Or am I remembering incorrectly?

>>135783554
The thread is already in shambles from recent successful trolls. Might as well open the gates.

>>135783611
It's the New Years. It'll settle down after a month or two when most of the NYRs have given up. Of course, it'll go to shit again when summer starts, but that's unfortunately just the way it is.

>>135783588
I really can't remember, sorry. It's good that he's back though (?).

>>135783676
I think the NYRfags are doing quite well actually.

>>135783554
Only noticed the post in reference to this thread on wizardchan. Did anons here start up that thread as well or was it started by anons aware of this thread in a similar way to how those posters on reddit were aware of this thread? Assuming that has no official relation to djt.
Which came first, djt or the Japanese thread on /int/?

>>135783704
>I think the NYRfags are doing quite well actually.
Oh no, I wasn't implying the NYRfags were bad, they don't seem to be asking as many stupid questions this time, I'm just saying that most of the shitposting is coming from it being New Years and people are shitposting more than usual to mislead beginners.

>>135783729
Japanese thread on /int/ isn't about learning Japanese but I am quite sure they started doing it around 2012 and /djt/ started in 2011?

I want off this liberal express elevator

>>135783771
Wish the archives didn't die, twice, so I could just look it up. The wizard anon said something about making some of the op stuff for this thread; is the anon or anons who made this thread still around?
I've got a bit of an urge to pester the anons linked in the op via email bit it seems a bit weird to step outside of anonymity to ask about the history of an anonymous cyclic thread. Probably just go and bug the /int/ thread about it- done reps for the day and digging through the thread history feels like learning something from the ground up, like Japanese was when learning the kana. Want to find the people who made djt, djt and ask them how it has shaped their learning.

Fuck, that's so lame. Thanks for persisting with my questions, anon.

>>135784023
You're right, that's lame as hell

>>135784023
http://foolz.fireden.net/a/

I don't know to what extent is covered though

>>135784202
Desustorage also claims that the posts from moe are being imported

きょうのお鍋

とりもも
はくさい
ながねぎ
しいたけ
にんじん

>>135770088
>I want a proper separate release of Anki with cool new features.
Make one yourself, then.

>>135784648
Today's hot pot [ingredients]

Chicken thighs
Chinese cabbage
Spring onions
Shiitake mushrooms
Carrots

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>>135766767

between chinese and japanese which one is more needed nowadays and can offer more possibilities for getting a job say in US, also i wonder which one is the best for internet consuming throughout asian segment

>>135784967
Japanese is superior. Both these languages won't get you a job though unless you want to be a waiter.

>>135784967
I'm learning Japanese for cute anime girls

>>135784967
Chinese is better but people are learning jap here to read their porn comics.

>>135785028
biasly opinionated anon detected

Welp, that's it. I finished my first LN. It took me 19 days, and I added over 3000 new cards to anki.

ほめて

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>>135785142
おにいちゃんのことなんか、ぜんぜんすきじゃないんだからね！

>>135785166
Damn

>>135785142
What LN?

>>135785276

Yotsuba

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>>135785276