So with stuff like the Oculus Rift and just the general culture

>>135738860
Occulus isn't the first attempt at VR. VR tech has been around for decades.

i want /v/ and underage fags to leave

>>135738860
Lain predicted a lot of things.
VRshit was not one of them.

>>135738921

Yea it's the first serious and decent attempt at vr.

>>135738921

It's the first attempt to actually gain any ground.

>>135738951

I'm not just talking about VR, The Knights reminds me of Anonymous for one thing.

>>135738958

Please underage go

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>>135739025

Right, we all remember how commonplace VR was back in the day.

>>135739025

Maybe you should go. Those attempts were the basis but fell flat as the tech for consumer versions wasn't there. Only through luckey managing to make a cheap vr prototype that had a believable effect did it come to the forefront again.

>>135739489
The tech still isn't there until the headsets are under $100 and don't cause headaches like the current shit.

You guys don't seem to understand...

>>135739525
The price thing is just a matter of gaining traction with mainstream consumers and time. It will get there soon. And the headache thing is pretty much a non issue.

>>135738860
This whole idea of Lain as some prophetic work gets more annoying the more people spout it. 1998 isn't the dark ages, and predicting that existing tech will get better and more commonplace does not make Konaka a social visionary or whatever.

>>135739572
>And the headache thing is pretty much a non issue.

Because that line of thinking worked out so well for the Virtual Boy.

>>135739572
>non issue
Fuck you, I tried this shit once and got pretty severe headache immediately.

>>135739546

Too bad, we seemed like honest men?

>>135739525
What the fuck are you talking about?
Nobody is getting headaches, only motion sickness which has already been fixed.

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>>135738860
>Lain is science-fiction
It isn't. It presents an alternative version of 1998 reality, not a vision of the future.
What part of PRESENT DAY PRESENT TIME don't you get?

>>135740048
>only futurist speculative fiction is science fiction
Please become a tripfag so I can block you.

>>135739593

>>1998 isn't the dark ages

It pretty much is as far as the internet and related tech goes, in 1998 most people didn't even own a cell phone, hell my family didn't even own a computer all.

Not to mention 1998 was the year Google was first founded for Christ's sake, look how much it's grown since then.

I think in 1998 most people still didn't realize just how huge an impact the internet was going to have.

>>135740048

It's still making a statement on the impact technology will have on society in the future even if it does so through an "alternate dimension" rather than a typical "ten years in the future" or whatever.

Some of the stuff in Lain is dated though, the whole alien thing reeks of the X Files 90's, when people actually took that crap seriously.

>>135740048
>Lain isn't science fiction
Kill yourself post-haste.

>>135739317
because it was expensive you brain damaged autist

The underage is strong.

Go read some books you fucking fags.

Get out /v/

>>135740241

I thought the Roswell reference was just an explanation for why the technology of this alternate 1998 was so advanced?

>>135739525
>under $100
Get a job

>>135740294
>>135740316
>>135740321

I like how anytime you try to have a discussion here about an actual good anime that is the not the typical moeshit assholes always try to ruin it, fuck off dipshits.

>>135740103

Do you remember when the Dot Com Bubble burst? Of course not because you're just a kid. The Internet was huge in the late 90's and computers was the major growth industry. Computers weren't in 99% of homes but there were certainly alot of families who owned them. I had a cellphone in the late 90's and even though not everyone had them they weren't that uncommon either. Of course this was back when the tech wasn't so good, texting was pretty much non-existant and games were Space Invader or Arkanoid knock offs, you had whichever one came on your phone and that was it.

>>135740454

No, I remember the Dot Com Bubble, I'm not saying the era was a technology wasteland, just that I don't think very many people really grasped just how ubiquitous the net would become.

I mean for one thing, if you told people back then that they would watch movies and TV shows streamed over the net onto their TV that would have sounded like some serious sci fi shit.

How often do you wont to post thos again

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The real question is, was Lain one of those tomatoes?

>>135740529

I would argue that it was a technological limitation, not a conceptual one. gifs were everywhere because that was all we could handle with bandwidth, streaming wasn't really feasible because most people were on dial-up. All the same I do remember streaming short segments of episodes on websites.

>>135740740

I'm talking about the average person, I'm sure maybe some tech gurus could envision, but I doubt the average person could imagine watching an entire movie or TV episode over the internet in good picture quality.

>>135740740
It was a conceptual limitation for the vast majority of people, and I'm not expert in Japanese tech history but I'm willing to bet they were even farther behind than the west as far as digital inclusion went in 1998.

>>135740399
I love Lain, but you should probably kill yourself out of /a/ right now.

>>135740782

I remember a lot of regular people talking about whether they should upgrade their computer because everything was getting faster and cheaper all the time. The problem wasn't that people couldn't imagine it, the problem was that it wasn't possible yet. In the late 90's you could get a computer with a DVD drive to watch movies and we certainly had programs that loaded movies off of CDs, do you remember VCDs?

>>135740399
>actual good anime
>moeshit
>assholes
Fucking ironic

Anyway, it's because these threads attract deep mature for deep mature person such as myself who refuse to watch anything else. It's only natural they are going to act like stupid retards, they are stupid retards

>>135740867

Holy crap you have that ass backwards. It's been well known since the 80's that the Japanese are kicking our ass in tech. That was a really big thing in the 90's, everyone bought Japanese electronics. Akihabara was an electronics paradise not an otaku one, that's where tourists went to buy cameras and camcorders.

>>135740967
Yeah, but what about internet access and content?

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>>135740740
>All the same I do remember streaming short segments of episodes on websites.
It doesn't count as dial up but I remember my dad had a PCMCIA card slot on his bulky 90's Compaq business laptop that he would plug a network expansion card that had a little extendable antenna and a SIM card slot, so you would put in the SIM from a regular cellphone and you could make calls and browse the internet over 2G GPRS at speeds of 35~100kbps.

Later in the mid 00's I got it off my dad and then scoured an old tech market to find a PCMCIA to PCI adapter so I could use the network card with my desktop PC and I would leave episodes of Bleach on youtube to buffer for an hour or so before I started to watch them, then buffering the next episode in the background.

I did not have a broadband connection till something like 2007/8 when I got a 128kbps connection, then a 256 and finally a 1Mbps and beyond over the years.

Such are the woes of third world.

>>135741008

In 1998 they were making alot of the computers they were selling to us. They had as many computers per capita as us if not more.

As for content there were certainly alot of image galleries back then. Not many people people had movie galleries back then because it was difficult to watch but people were certainly trying within their technological limitations.

>>135738860
Was lain cel animated or computer? 1998 was borderline start of computer animation

>>135739990
I have a DK2, and it gives me headaches so badly that I have to stop working with it every few hours. Other than that, it's great. Much more convincing than I ever expected it to be

>>135741576
Looks computer to me

>>135741576

Not sure, I know the 1996 Tenchi Muyo in Love! movie was digitally animated rather than cel. I think it was more likely Lain was traditionally made though, digital was still something you would find in theatrical releases rather than OVAs or tv broadcast.

>>135741576
It was mostly still cel animated, although it had some experimental CG parts.

One CG part that I can easily recall is the bit near the end of the OP with the stairs.

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>>135741576

Cel animated, with some digital compositioning.

>>135741901
>digital compositioning
What does that mean?
>>135741753
Weren't the navi screens CG?

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>HTC delay their headset because of a "groundbreaking technological breakthrough"
>The "groundbreaking technological breakthrough" turns out to be "lol we put a camera on it"

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>>135738860
>>135742264

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VR thread?

>>135742635
What will people do with their VR devices once they end up in their hands? I feel like a lot of the people preordering are buying based on the potential of the device rather than its existing content, but won't put in the effort to realize that potential.

>>135742385
Meh, I think AR tech is as important as VR tech

The camera could enable a lot of cool AR shit.

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WOW COOL THREAD

>>135743065
The camera doesn't enable AR though, just seeing the outlines of real world objects in VR. Good AR is coming soon, but this isn't it.

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>>135743151
>Good AR is coming soon
It's about fucking time

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>>135743252
There's a huge amount of potential in the medium, I'm glad I'll get to see it flourish in my lifetime.

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>>135738860
Kinda reminds me more of SAO than SEL.

>>135743771
filtered

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>>135738860
>reality is turning into Serial Experiments Lain?
What? Reality has been like Lain's reality for a while now. People ARE in the internet, not in a physical form, but you feel their persona.

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FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS.

THE DREAM'S OVER M8'S, SAY GOODBYE TO ALL THE 3RD PARTY SUPPORT.

>>135745871
You bought a menu for $600?

>>135745871
do you think $600 is much? Heck my camera lens costed more

>>135740048
She is literally Jesus of the Internet.

>>135746055
This isn't about whether *you* can afford it, but if *everyone else* can buy enough of them to get the VR hype train going. If the Oculus Rift flops it's going to look real bad across the entire market.

>>135746148
almost everyone, even people on welfare have giant flat screen tv nowadays. It's not that much money and it's only going to become cheaper from now on.

>>135746148
I mean the HTC looks pretty cheap so maybe it might survive off that.

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>>135745871
>$600
>$600
What the fuck? My dreams ruined. All my hope for Sony VR. It's have inner processor, so it already superior. Muh porn will waiting

>>135746240
You're fucking delusional, there's no way this already very niche electronic device, which needs at the VERY MINIMUM a $900 PC to even run, is going to sell as much as a cheap ass flat screen TV.

Is Project Morpheus any good?

>>135746493
People are saying it's good, but we'll have to wait until it releases to find out for ourselves.

>>135738860
I look forward more to a world like we saw in Surrogates honestly.

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>>135743530
>>135743252
Dennou Coil and Robotics;Notes are my jam. Are there any other anime that focus on AR?