Turning into a living lightning bolt is the coolest power, prove me wrong faggots. >speed >M*A=F >lightning and wind magic attacks >a shitload of other useful spells >power up girls with a kiss to form the ultimate harem army
Let's go with Chougasaki's Encounter. Seems handy and not so dangerous as to cause a significant portion of the world to come after me. Alternatively there's my other tied for first ability of Kotodama user like Tachibana Tsukumo or Kotoha
Similar to nuruto's shadow clone where my clone will be a wageslave while i stay in my room being a NEET(i dont mind heavier energy consumption when using that power since i can sleep in the bed when i get tired.
>>135749284 First episode was awesome. The two episodes featuring that jaw-like ground monster/giant tunnel turtle where also awesome. Then the first episode featuring the kagewani was awesome, because the gun girl was platinum cute.
But then yeah, the rest was just rough to get through. Ending didn't bother me so much, because I really liked seeing the asshole rich guy die
>>135749477 Yeah, gun girl was the only enjoyable thing out of that episode because sincerely the sudden introduction of magic monsters ruined all the buildup the series had until that point. there was potential for something nice at least, using for once science monsters like it was common back in the day, but they fucked up
>>135751397 >Fighting powers are meh >posts Chirico removing a control device planted inside a cyborg with a bouncing bullet WHILE the cyborg is trying to kill you piloting a fucking five meters mech is not fighting power enough for you?
Does Instant Transmission count as reality warping? Everyone's made the point that his IT just makes you instantly appear where you want (as long as goku's sensing someones chi as an anchor) and that time/space doesn't matter?
If I can't have IT then just gimme the power of a SSJ tbqh family
I want to become a cute girl with the ability to travel to any universe. That includes 2d universes. I also want to have a ‘everything will be daijobu’ where everything will be daijobu around me. So I‘ll be able to live as a cute 2d girl having cute adventures.
>>135760346 I feel like the distance you can travel while not being able to sense chi is still fairly worth it, although not having the chi reserves or focus to maintain many jumps would be a drawback.
I think i'd rather just be able to have ki manipulation in that case. I'd be able to fly and shoot ki blasts, run super quick, and probably be able to meditate more efficiently.
Honestly, I would love to have his powers. Speaking to ghosts, being leagues above everyone else in terms of raw power, and if I get the spirit of fire I will always be set. Also I can survive space lasers. I might not be able to read minds like he can though, since you apparently have to be really lonely to do that.
Expected to see a lot of jojo here, i'd get king crimson. but you'd have to be pretty quick thinking to be good at using it in a lot of situations, at least your only confirmed weakness is GER and he's a scrub anyway so fuck him.
>>135781570 I think choosing to gain the power of money sort of implies that you get a lot of money.
Or even better, if you literally have the same power as money, meaning you can purchase stuff and convince people to do things with your power as if you were paying them, but you don't actually give them anything. The "power" of money without its physical form.
>>135782214 The fact that you can't even realize what I'm talking about shows how stupid you and everyone who would want to be immortal is.
Living isn't bad. Living FOREVER is the worst thing I can imagine. Your earliest problems will of course be everyone you know and care about dying. No matter who you get close to you will always outlive them. There's also the risk you get stuck somewhere. If you fall into some crack in the ground and get wedged between giant rocks 1000 feet underground nobody will ever find you, all you'll just be stuck there for a long ass time. Of course whether you get stuck or not is pretty irrelevant, eventually earth will no longer be able to support life. You'll be the only living thing left on the entire planet. But even that will feel like paradise compared to what comes next, because eventually the sun is going to go supernova and explode, destroying the earth with it. And than you'll just be doomed to float alone in space. For hundreds, thousands, millions, billions, trillions, quadrillions of years, never ending, because that's what living FOREVER means, all because you're some dumbass who couldn't think anything through before wishing for their super power.
>>135782639 God you're fucking stupid. I predicted literally every single response you'd make. I knew you'd say "hurr I have no friends I'm an edgy lone wolf" which makes me really wonder why you want to live forever to begin with, I knew you'd make up the "durr I'll just invent space exploration no problem" as if you're smart enough to even repair a car, and whether it's the sun or something else the earth is going to eventually be destroyed, no planet just lasts forever.
And where is this ability to just make copies of yourself suddenly coming from? Whats more how do they even help? You're still stuck. Who cares what the copies up to.
I seriously hope you actually get your wish granted, and that googleplex^googleplex^googleplex^googleplex^googleplex^googleplex^googleplex^googleplex^googleplex^googleplex^googleplex^googleplex^googleplex^googleplex^googleplex^googleplex^googleplex years from now you think back to this conversation where you told someone to kill yourself for warning you not to wish for immortality and regret with every fiber of your being that you can't kill yourself now.
>>135782998 I honestly did though. I knew while I was typing out the "everyone you care for dies" that he was probably just going to say he doesn't have any (Which I'm still wondering why he wants to live forever then). And that he'd just pretend humanity will invent sci-fi space travel and exist forever as a way to pretend he wouldn't eventually be completely alone in the universe. Admittedly the part about earth wasn't spot on, I figured he'd just stick to the "well i'll just leave earth in my super cool faster than light infinite fuel space ship" to get around it, but either way the earth won't last forever.
But really though, does he get that just living forever doesn't mean he can spend the rest of eternity in his room living off autismbux and shitposting on 4chan like his current life?
>>135783103 >Which I'm still wondering why he wants to live forever then friends are your only reason to live?
>And that he'd just pretend humanity will invent sci-fi space travel >super cool faster than light infinite fuel space ship" nigger, please, i never said that. Why would you need FTL if you live forever? You can take the long road.
>does he get that just living forever doesn't mean he can spend the rest of eternity in his room living off autismbux and shitposting on 4chan like his current life? people change, yes. but given infinite time even a lethargic sloth can get things done.
>>135782074 >Be immortal >Hope you also don't age and are invulnerable, spending eternity as a mangled mess of flesh would kind of suck >Hope you're immune to all diseases and cancer inevitably infesting your entire body >Hope you never get noticed by any group with power who turns you into a lab rat >Hope you're okay with never being able to form a significant relationship as the freak who never ages and will outlive anyone they ever meet >Hope you're okay with everything you've ever known muddling together as the memories grow fainter with each passing decade >Hope you're okay with gradually becoming unable to communicate as language drifts over the centuries >Hope the standards and conveniences of modern society aren't disrupted by war, disaster, shortages, famine, plague, nuclear holocaust... >Hope you can deal with the day you become the last remnant of the human race >Hope you get off this rock before the oceans are vaporized by the expanding Sun in a few hundred million years and the rest of the rock being consumed by in a billion years more >Hope you can keep yourself occupied spending unfathomable eternity drifting through the void of space >Hope you run into a black hole so time dilation makes the heat death of the universe feel a little faster
>>135783289 >friends are your only reason to live? No I just know that being a friendless loser and being miserably depressed tend to go hand in hand. I see no reason to assume differently of you. And really though, I genuinely want to know why you even want to live forever. I'm guessing it's just a fear of death that you're too stupid to think about rationally.
>nigger, please, i never said that. Why would you need FTL if you live forever? You can take the long road. Well first and foremost you should stop assuming space travel will exist AT ALL. Because it very likely won't. And if by long road you mean just floating alone, where exactly do you think you're going? You think it'll just be a short nap and you'll wake up on some alien planet and have some cool adventures and just keep doing that for eternity? Because your odds of hitting anything at all while drifting through space are nigh-infinitesimally small, and only grow smaller and smaller as the universe expands and the finite amount of matter and energy within it become more and more spread out.
>but given infinite time even a lethargic sloth can get things done. Even if you could change and become a motivated person (which I seriously doubt) whats all this talk of getting things done? There won't be any "things" to get done. You'll outlast everything else in existence. It will all crumble and fade to nothing and you'll still be there. In the void forever.
Frankly I am 100% you're just too stupid to comprehend what "forever" means.
>>135783503 Don't even bother bro. He's far too dense to think about any of that, and will just make up a bunch of other super powers as his excuse for how he'll avoid those problems.
I posted a specific character because I am very well aware of various negative consequences of specific forms of immortality and obviously intend to avoid those.
Keeping up with changing things obviously is necessary. If IQs are creeping up you need to get smarter too unless you want to be treated like some stupid curiosity in the far future. Hint: A lich can work on INT buffs.
>You'll outlast everything else in existence. It will all crumble and fade to nothing and you'll still be there. In the void forever. That's fairly defeatist. If you assume that all life will end you might as well kill yourself right now because nothing you or anyone else will ever do will have any lasting impact.
>I'm guessing it's just a fear of death that you're too stupid to think about rationally. Not really, I just want to see what happens.
>And if by long road you mean just floating alone I did not.
>Hope you're okay with gradually becoming unable to communicate as language drifts over the centuries learning is a thing, you know
>>135783769 You're so fucking retarded it hurts. And the worst part is that in spite of being so fucking retarded, you still honestly believe you're a "smart but lazy" person who can achieve absolutely anything if they just felt like it.
We're not playing monkeys paw, we just have basic common sense. Which you don't.
>That's fairly defeatist. If you assume that all life will end you might as well kill yourself right now because nothing you or anyone else will ever do will have any lasting impact. This is my favorite. You know i'm right, and that no matter what stupid answers you make up you can't get around the undeniable truth that you'll outlast everything, so instead you just ignore it, insult me, and make up a bunch of completely baseless bullshit about me. "Hurr if you don't want to live forever then you should just want to die right now!". No, I don't want to die right now because life is pretty ok now. I don't want to live forever because I know life will NOT be ok 10 quintillion years from now.
>Hint: A lich can work on INT buffs. Holy shit I did it again. I predicted how he'd argue because his mind is so simple. He' just make up new superpowers that he can have for no reason because he knows he has absolutely no actual logical basis to stand on.
>>135783978 >No, I don't want to die right now because life is pretty ok now. but what's the point? You'll die. Everything you ever did will die with time too. It makes no difference.
So really, why not kill yourself? Is there any good reason?
>He' just make up new superpowers that he can have for no reason because he knows he has absolutely no actual logical basis to stand on. Again, this thread is about >Characters with abilities you would want I posted a specific character for this reason. What is so hard to get about that?
>>135784094 I could say the same, it's not like he's responding to every single of my points either.
>>135784131 Have you not paid attention to literally anything in this argument? The problem of being alone pales in comparison to the problem of to being trapped in the void of space with absolutely nothing to do but feel the constant sensation of freezing and suffocating to death for all of eternity.
I stand by what I said. The only people who would want to live forever are those too stupid and short-sighted to think past the first couple thousand years. People who just cannot comprehend what forever and infinity mean.
>>135783978 >You know i'm right, and that no matter what stupid answers you make up you can't get around the undeniable truth that you'll outlast everything, so instead you just ignore it, insult me, and make up a bunch of completely baseless bullshit about me. "Hurr if you don't want to live forever then you should just want to die right now!". No, I don't want to die right now because life is pretty ok now. I don't want to live forever because I know life will NOT be ok 10 quintillion years from now.
Just because you're correct doesn't mean you're right.
Are you that scared of turning into apathetic knowledge-hungry moralless prick? Well im not.
>>135784214 >So really, why not kill yourself? Is there any good reason? I literally just said because I think life is ok right now. There's no reason to stop living if I'm still enjoying it to a large enough degree. How exactly do you plan to continuously learn every new language humanity invents if you can't even remember something from 1 post ago. Hell you even quoted it and put it in your own post.
>>Characters with abilities you would want All you said was immortality. This entire argument has been just about immortality. You suddenly trying to shift gears to "n-no I was actually talking about having all these other powers too!" is an obvious and pathetic attempt to run away because you know you've been proven wrong and an idiot at every turn.
>>135784214 >I could say the same, it's not like he's responding to every single of my points either. I've responded and soundly dismantled every pathetic excuse for a point you've thrown at me, you're just saying that to pretend like I'm somehow not winning this argument.
Also I love the way you're crying that I'm ignoring your points while you BLATANTLY ignore the wikipedia article detailing the plethora of scientifically backed ways that you're wrong and don't know anything about the universe. Nice bold faced hypocrisy there retard.
>>135783769 >I just want to see what happens. Why not time travel then? >learning is a thing, you know There's a biological capacity to how much information the human brain can store. Unless you plan to put yourself through some rather interesting augmentations that are going to have difficulty keeping up with an immortal physiology.
People who want immortality should settle for self-sustaining time travel, that is time travel that works how you like without complication something along the lines of the Butterfly Effect but equally physical and mental. You can go into the future to acquire augmentations, subject your younger self to them so you're already as advanced if not the most advanced organism in each shifting timeline and if things don't work out you have a restart button.
If you're mysteriously dying or being killed you can time travel to a point where you can be healed or just go back with the information of what killed you into an earlier body and avoid it.
>>135784419 >Even so, what of it? See that's just it. You're not comprehending it. Your brain is just too stupid to do so. If you could comprehend it you'd be able to realize "what of it" on your own.
It's sad really. I don't think anyone, no matter how stupid or bad of a person they are, deserves the ultimate most horrific fate of immortality. Yet if they actually got the opportunity you morons would willingly doom yourselves to it. Thankfully this is all just a hypothetical discussion and you'll never get the chance.
>>135784453 >How exactly do you plan to continuously learn every new language humanity invents if you can't even remember something from 1 post ago. Hell you even quoted it and put it in your own post.
There you go again. Human brain can be trained to remeber lots of things. How do you think there are people RIGHT NOW mastering up to 50 languages?
>All you said was immortality Thats a fair point but we didnt state what kind of immortality we are talking about. It could be so your body wount be affected by environment at all - like a Dr.Manhattan of sorts. Or your conscience will exist outside of your body like the apparition hunter in Monogatari.
>>135784453 >Also I love the way you're crying that I'm ignoring your points I'm crying now? That is factually false.
>BLATANTLY ignore the wikipedia article detailing the plethora of scientifically backed ways that you're wrong those are very reasonable projections based on current knowledge, but infinity is a long time,
>>135784558 >Unless you plan to put yourself through some rather interesting augmentations that are going to have difficulty keeping up with an immortal physiology. I said from the start that further things will need to be acquired >>135782074
>>135784453 >All you said was immortality. This entire argument has been just about immortality. again, refer to >>135782074
>>135784638 >like a Dr.Manhattan of sorts. Jon Osterman has compete particle manipulation of himself and everything reasonably in range of himself. He's less immortal and more just no longer under most physical limitations.
>>135725078 There are so many things, that I would end up chosing nothing. Also I'm boring uncreative anon. Bear with me. Immortality with high regen would be great, but then I could end up in some really fucked up scenario, like in lava. So either add to it ability to kill myself at will or turn off pain. Teleport. REALLY fucking high speed that would be pretty much as teleport on Earth, because distances wouldn't be great, but as bonus I could do sewing fast. Or power to become happy.
>>135784638 >>135784652 What the fuck. How have 2 people, both responding to me as if they're the one who made the first post with skeletor, now suddenly arguing with me. Well whatever, I'll respond to both your points. To the first guy who mentioned 50 languages, you're still not thinking long term enough. It doesn't matter if you can learn every single fucking language. Because eventually you're not going to have anyone to talk to. Even if you could become some super genius that manages to keep other people alive with you for billions of years, the heat death of the universe is inevitable. Everything else will fade and crumble, and you alone as an immortal being will be left in the empty void. Forever. I just don't know what else I can possibly do to get this point across, at this point I feel like if you just can't get it then there's no hope and I'm wasting my time trying to force something into your brain that your brain simply isn't capable of processing.
And YOU. The other guy. Holy shit, you. >those are very reasonable projections based on current knowledge, Incredible. So your argument has now come down to "yeah you've proven me wrong at every possible turn, but maybe science will just start happening in reverse in the future! you can't prove it WON'T happen, so I win!". That's just sad. >but infinity is a long time, See this sums up what I've been saying all along. You just can't comprehend it. "Long time"? Infinity cannot possibly be described with any word in human language. It goes beyond concepts of length. Really when I talk about comprehending infinity, what that truly means is realizing that humans CAN'T comprehend infinity. Really you're just too stupid to realize that you can't realize certain things. That's why you think diving into infinity would be fine. Like I said to the other guy I feel like I'm just wasting my time trying to drive in knowledge that fundamentally can't fit in your brain.
>>135784874 >I''l give you some burgers as congratulations If we are talking about surface, some nearlightspd would allow you to move anywhere in matters of split second, aka blink. Now...how FAST is actually teleport? Atto second? Sure, faster, but when will your conciousness will be able to 'tell' you are in new place? Of course teleportation wins interplanetary travel or moving underground or pretty much any place that is heavily obstructed.
you dumbfucks believe that immortality will preserve the initial body of the person. remember what happened in soul reaver, all of the vampire servants of kain transformed into different beings after millennia of existence.
>>135785101 Teleportation is dependant on the speed of the teleporters thought. That's why Instant Transmission is theoretically faster then movement but Flash could blitz the fuck out of Goku before the latter has a chance to think. Although Superman did once outrace teleportation, in the sense that he crossed the distance faster then the people teleporting finished materializing.
>>135785167 What a fucking retarded argument, that was because Kain was cursed and that curse infected his entire brood. And this are VAMPIRES you're talking about, a lot of stories have them changing or evolving somehow with age as to show an increase in power.
>>135785023 You have several problems with your arguments:
You only see problems without considering that this infinite amount of time could also be spent on finding either solutions or workarounds. as you say it's an incomprehensibly long time
You're thinking about very specific forms of immortality that suit your arguments while ignoring all others
We're talking about superpowers here. Either they come with limitations, limitations would mean there probably is some way to kill yourself if you get sick of it. Or they blatantly violate physics. And if they do you can exploit that some way.
>>135785330 Look, either you don't have COMPLETE immortality, or you become a godlike being that can at the very least travel to other universes and at best just goes ''fuck it'' and ends entropy. Those are the only good options for immortality. I'm not the guy you've been arguing with, btw.
>>135785101 Are we doing that thing where we try to apply physics to magic powers Because when you're moving at a good chunk of the speed of light air is a serious obstruction https://what-if.xkcd.com/1/
>>135785330 You don't have a fucking argument at all. You've completely given up on even trying to be rational or prove anything (because you know you can't) and are now just claiming that you're right because MAYBE something could happen in the future that fixes it. You have no idea what that could be, you're just claiming "well if enough times passes then stuff has to happen", which further demonstrates how ignorant you were of anything scientific, and still are even though you had that wikipedia article linked to you (which im sure you opened, saw a big word, and immediately closed because you knew you'd never understand any of it). No, just because time keeps passing doesn't mean things are guaranteed to happen. In fact, the more time passes the LESS things are going to happen in the universe. You're literally just making shit up now.
Which frankly is good enough for me. I'll take it as your concession, since I really need to get to bed before too long. If you've resorted to pulling out the "You can't prove i'm not right, therefore I'm right" then you officially have nothing else to say (as if you had much to begin with) and we both know it.
The ability to teleport stuff would be very useful and even really powerful if you use it right. Remember, its definition is "to transport or be transported across space and distance instantly." The core function is to transport stuff, if you abused it a little, you can do pretty powerful things with it.
If I teleport creatures from a long distance away to my location, that would effectively be summoning as far as strangers are concerned. If we stretch the definition a bit more, we go into stuff like teleporting stuff from another world, stuff like teleporting wild animals from another world or something.
I'll give an example. Caro from Nanoha, a support/summoner mage. Her strongest summon is a huge ass dragon that have warship tier firepower, and it's not a magical construct, it's a living creature that she made a contract with. When she summons it, she's teleporting it from its home planet to wherever she is. Which is why she's also stated to be pretty good at teleporting people later in Vivid, because she uses it to summon her dragon.
>>135785330 >You only see problems without considering that this infinite amount of time could also be spent on finding either solutions or workarounds I'm not the guy you're replying to but the issue has nothing to do with what "form" of immortality is involved. The stars will eventually stop shining, all matter in our universe will eventually grow old, degenerate, and decay, all useful energy will eventually be expended and all of the universe will settle into a long eternity of the absolute nothingness of total equilibrium. The process is as incomprehensibly long as it is inevitable. Unless you're equating "immortal" with "God", or you have some ability to choose to die, experiencing this is simply an unavoidable consequence of being around for it to happen.
>>135785768 >that does not apply to the universe Not him but you're just as bad as the people you criticize if you don't prove any sort of reasoning as to why they're wrong. It just becomes finger pointing and assumptions. You're not going to convince anyone by screaming "you don't understand science!".
>>135785807 The very first thing the page he linked says is "in mathematics". The universe is not a mathematical system. Furthermore, it says right here >"all particles must be bound to a finite volume" The universe will continue to expand infinitely. It is not a finite volume.
All the theorem he linked is saying is basically that if you take a box full of balls and shake it enough eventually the balls will all wind up in the same position. This is not applicable to the universe at all. The fact that he thought he was proving something by linking to it only demostrates how he doesn't understand the universe, or the very thing he himself linked to try and prove something.
There's no point in offering in depth explanations because he's too stupid to get any of it. Now he's even claiming gravity is just a theory that hasn't been proven wrong yet. No matter what you say to him he's just gonna say "yeah well you can't prove me wrong so I'm gonna keep believing it".
>>135785862 The ultimate deciding factor in the universe's fate is whether or not it is expanding. It has been demonstrated that the universe is not only expanding, but that expansion is accelerating. The inevitable fate of a universe increasingly isolated from itself is to eventually settle and grow cold, dark, and silent.
There are plenty of unsolved problems in physics, but this is not one of them beyond the specifics.
>>135786101 Except it is inevitable you fucking braindead moron. It's the coldest, hardest, most inevitable scientific truth of the entire universe. Anyone who will honestly claim "well you don't know for sure it's going to happen because in the future the laws of physics could randomly change" needs to kill themselves. or at the very least, never try to offer their opinions on anything scientific again to spare non-retarded people the mental anguish of having to read their verbal feces.
>>135786101 The only situation where it is not inevitable is one where our understanding of multiple physical laws that form the basis of our understanding of the universe are wrong. This is not an argument, this is a statement of fact. "Maybe everything we know is wrong" is not a refutation or counter-argument, it is only a very bold statement that is meaningless without any evidence to support it, when faced with principles that are validated countless times every second of every day in the observed universe.
>>135786189 Dark energy is the hypothesis created to explain why the expansion of the universe is accelerating. There is no question that its fundamental nature is to drive the expansion of the universe. The universe's accelerating expansion is the phenomenon that dark energy is being used to explain. There are plenty of "whats" and "whys" about dark energy that have yet to be understood, but that it exists and what it does is fundamental to all accepted understanding of how our universe functions.
Maybe one day the expansion of the universe will slow, halt, or reverse, but there is absolutely no reason to predict that and every reason to believe that it will not.
>>135786404 >there is absolutely no reason to predict that and every reason to believe that it will not there really is no reason to predict either way. the fhird option is to say "insufficient information".
We do know that the rate of acceleration can change and has changed in the past. See inflationary epoch.
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