ITT: tamed and defanged tsunderes

>>135723798
She remained a tsundere, who was king of the hasty endings.
The last chapter tried to end the saga of Phoenix and the last 4 or 6 pages were about the wedding. Go to Takahashi shit.

>>135724134
>Subaru
Is this a meme name or is it acually common in Nip land?

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>>135723690
A character most people forget was actually Tsundere to begin with.

Seriously, until she found out that Mamoru was Tuxedo-Mask, all she did was rip on him, insult him and go "WHAT? I DON'T LIKE HIM OR ANYTHING!!!" whenever people commented on how she must really like him Then he married her, knocked her up and became king of her domain. Tamed, Defanged and fucking conquered. All he had to do afterwards was order that bitch to make him a sandwich and he'd be all set.

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why are tsunderes so slutty? it's like they're trying to hide their libido by pretending to be sadistic

>>135724947
well tsunderes back then were more subtle

nowadays they all stutter and physically abuse people

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mama no

>>135724998
The old definition was a type of character progression while in modern usage it's just a type of character.

>>135724134
new chapter never
RIP
>>135724338
Think it's a nickname in this case

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One of the only good modern examples I can think of. Very much dere by the end of the VN, doubly so if you count the anime's OVA and sequel movie.

>>135723690
That first pic is actually from season 2.

>>135725381
>counting the movie

>>135725580
The events are dumb and don't follow the rules of the setting but they nailed the characters.

>>135725381
The thing is, her tsun tsun towards Okabe is pretty much entirely justified, since he's kind of an idiot.

http://exhentai.org/s/8609f8619e/450139-70

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he's not going to dump her is he

>>135723690
>you can cheat on me
Wow, she turned to lowly shit in the blink of an eye.

>>135725625
Well yes, but she stops doing it to cover for her own issues and to keep him at arm's length. I did like how the tsun flowed from her character rather than being the basis of it.

>>135725377
Isn't it technically completed with chapter 6?

>>135725613
Are you forgetting she later kick his ass?

Any manga where the MC grows a backbone and humiliates the tsundere girl by making her beg for it/admit her feelings?

>>135725735
So she knows her place like all good women do.

>>135725925
Nah it's okay, he can always threaten to release the sex tape now so he's in control. letting her throw a tantrum here and there is worth it

>>135725707
I dropped it when the fatso pretending to be the MC from the past appeared. Did it get better yet?

>>135724542
Keep reading this manga. It gets MUCH hotter from there.

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Takahashi characters still strike the best balance between tsun and dere.

>>135725993
It's way behind on translations though. Any recommendations for ones like that and kimi wa midara that's borderline h and has a tsundere female lead?

>>135725947
>Wanting a submissive bitch

>>135725936
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?category=tsundere%2Bfemale%2Blead_borderline%2Bh&exclude_genre=Doujinshi_Hentai_Yaoi&filter=some_releases&perpage=50

I feel like I'm leaving out many untagged series doing it this way

>>135726094
But those are the best. They hate it but can do nothing about it. Don't tell me you want them to dominate you.

>>135726161
I want them to be roughly equal with me, anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TvN4dvznr0

name a better scene than this

you can't

>>135725947
Edgy.

>>135725104
Tsunderes used to be like the chicks in western adventure movies; you know, indiana jones, alan quartermain, romancing the stone, uncharted etc...

You know the drill; strong independent woman, dislikes MC's immaturity (and he dislikes her haughtiness), they are forced to collaborate due to plot, they fall on each other like they're about to kiss and their eyes meet, sexual tension, plot resolved, they fell in love along the way and are all dere dere together.

But now it's mainly BAKA BAKA, kyaaaaaaaaaaaaa (pan to exterior), being unreasonably bitchy, and the 'dere' often peaks at blushing occasionally.

>>135726220
>roughly equal with me
Impossible. There has to be someone who wear the pants in every relationship.

>>135726229
De aru! Didn't here tsundere all sound the same? Somehow this sounds more like Kagura than anything

>>135726356
Unless you're both cute little girls in which case you'd both wear cute little skirts.

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>>135726342
You know who to thank

It's easier to write a stock archetype than an actual evolving character

>>135726342
The modern definition has more in common with being bipolar than the original meaning.

>>135725981
Turns out the fatso is a girl.

>>135725061
>tsundere mom

Wait a minute I've seen this in my CYOA before.

>>135726402
Louise at least softened up at the end, she was a well executed 'modern' tsundere in my opinion.

Shana was... well It was fucking boring so I dropped it and I don't know how it turned out.

I don't get all the hype about Taiga to be honest, I don't hate her or her show, but like she was pretty generic as far as the 'tsun', and the 'dere' and plot reveal rationalization for her shenanigans was PRESENT (which I guess is more than you can say for quite a few shows) but weak overall.

>>135725866
Well, having an actual character beyond "tsundere love interest" will do that. Rather than doing it because it's her personality, it's a defense mechanism from reaaaally bad daddy issues.

>>135726604
>it's a defense mechanism from reaaaally bad daddy issues

Postmodern psychoanalytic tsundere deconstruction when? Or will the industry be content churning out more cliche moneymakers?

>>135726486
wut.

>>135726699
>psychoanalytic

You lost me there. Psychoanalysis is a joke, and a bad one. Cognitive psychology is a much better system in which to deconstruct topics like this, because it requires self-awareness.

Plus, >moneymakers

You answered your own question.

>>135726724
She's in it for the money, she's poor and her grandma needs hospital money, if I'm remembering correctly.

Yes I know that's retarded, I'm still reading it anyway because the girls + trap are cute.

>>135726817
huh might be interesting I'll check it out.

>>135726777
Looks like you fell for the freud_is_a_hack meme. Psychoanalysis was rejected because it can't be falsified.

Karl Popper established that as an important criteria for scientific rigor around the same time.

It doesn't mean psychoanalysis doesn't have a place in fiction

>>135726817
rape her on top of her grandma's hospital bed

>>135726917
I suppose it isn't completely meritless, however I do know that Freud did lie about a lot of his findings and case studies. The concepts that he stated are fairly interesting, I do agree.

>>135726699
Well, S;G does get very meta about it thanks to the cast being into otaku culture. Kurisu is teased for her tsun tendencies and often compared against what a tsundere 'should' do in a situation.

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>>135726064
Okusama ga seitokaichou is borderline h and very funny, a full dere female has the lead, but the antagonist it's a tsundere and a shit.

>>135726985
they're only used for fiction. Something like the hedgehog dilemma doesn't say much either but it's a central theme in Evangelion.
if a show uses basic jungian archetypes it'll already be considered deep

>>135727085
I also remembered My Balls.

How can I forget that. complete 180

>>135727085
>but the antagonist it's a tsundere
How many series do this?

>>135723690
>completely out of context

fuck off OP she goes right back to it later

>>135726917
>a place in fiction
Everything has a place in fiction, it's fiction. The only reason people ever took psychoanalytic theory seriously in the realm of literature was because of the work freud did with classical critique, but in the light of the archaic and utterly unhelpful fiction of his 'theories,' even psychoanalysis as a literary theory is dated and unproductive.

The Freud is a hack meme exists for a reason. He was a hack. He tried to build an entire systematic philosophy (parading itself as a science, mind you) on the basis of delusion, conjecture and literal fanfiction.

>>135725947
>Wanting a bland cocksleeve.
What a bore. Just buy a doll.

Has Misaka been tamed yet? What about Accel?

>>135726556
Taiga was the best. Louise went from one extreme to the other and became a sexual slave with no personality. Shana became a dumb sheep willing to allow and condone abuse from her lover.

Taiga had none of that shit, she admitted her flaws and also pointed out the flaws of her man, became nicer by her own resolution and left him to go and grow out from her issues on her own source he have time to do the same. Then came back to him and rewarded his loyalty with sweet well earned love.

She's the one who became an equal with her partner. The other two surrended and lost what made then unique.

>>135723690
>pic not related

>>135729320
Is the lower dialogue out of context? Because it sounds like Louise signing a slavery contract.

>>135729612
Kimi wa Midara na Boku no Joou

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>>135723690
>>135729381

Literally 10 seconds later.

>>135730477
still it's gotten pretty lewd by season 4

too bad the author is dead now and no sex will ever happen that can be considered canon

>>135728478
>Not wanting to be treated like shit and deal with less hassle
>"WHY AREN'T YOU A NU-MALE LIKE THE REST OF US ANON. WE LOVE OUR GIRLS HANGING WITH THEM FOLKS."

Stella, after she saw Ikki's abs in EP1, she became a kind loving waifu.

>>135727132
My Balls was really good;
too bad it was removed and I can't find it completed

>>135730654
New novel already confirmed in the works. They are continuing his novel based on the notes he left.

>>135723690
>you can look at other girls and you can cheat on me
meh, girl isn't even worth giving the time of the day to.

>>135724948
Mind dropping the sauce for this one? It looks super adorable.

>>135732448
Watashi wa Damasa

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>>135732500
>Watashi wa Damasa
Many thanks!

>>135725904
It was... but then the author was like, I can probably make a few more chapters of this. Then RIP.

>>135732519
Your welcome

>>135732500
>>135732556
Nothing showed up on google.
You sure that's the right title?

>>135730859
While I'm sure your years of complete and utter lack of contact with the opposite sex and learning about them exclusively from /r9k/ has made you an unparalleled expert on the subject, it is in fact possible to have a relationship with a girl that doesn't fall into either extreme of "she constantly physically and verbally assaults you" and "she doesn't even speak without your permission"

Sometimes people are together because they just get along.

>>135732582
Wait sorry, you're right. Brainfart on my end. Watashi wa Dikku o suimasu

>>135732332
i'm just real upset best girl didn't win

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>>135732664
>Watashi wa Dikku o suimasu

>>135732724
The anime adaptation is great too.

>>135732870
Any recommendations asides from it?

>>135723690
But top is season 2

>>135723690
There was a season 4?

>>135732279
We tolkien now.

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TAMED

>>135732690
But best girl did win anon.

>>135726011
>liking male tsunderes

>>135726556
As far as Shana goes...

Her man beat the shit out of her and her friends and hatched a plot to rewrite the laws of the universe to suit his own interests. And Shana's reaction was basically "So, you gonna fuck me, or what?"

>>135726342
an example from your Grandparent's generation was "The African Queen" which featured both Humphrey Bogart and Katherine Hepburn both tsun like mad at the start, and mellow as the booze they were drinking during the film shoot at the end.

>>135732332
Her fangs we're shown pointy as ever a mere second after that gif.

>>135733782
Shana is a Cavewoman raised in the wilds. She's perfectly okay being taken by force and drawn to a cave pulled by the hair.

>>135724948
This was the most garbage manga I've ever read. Literally the worst male MC ever conceived.

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>tfw hearing the phrase "tamed and defanged" only makes you think of actually kidnapping and mindbreaking a once feisty aggressive girl into a timid, quiet, submissive slave

>>135735145
But who takes the credit? Hibiki? Genjuro? Sakimori?

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Tamed, but not defanged.

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>>135725381
Steins;Gate was the story of two tsunderes falling in love with one another. Somehow, both of them were well written and had actual personalities.

>>135733782
>rewrite the laws of the universe to suit his own interests
He did nothing wrong.

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>>135735614
Even better, their relationship was organic and made sense rather than just forcing the main guy and girl together like a child mashing toys against each other and making kissing noises. It also had some really nice moments that worked as both being romantic as hell and very naturalistically written, which writers both east and west continually fail to do.

>>135735316
It's Fine don' worry about it.

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Before

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>>135735956
After

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Discussion topic:

What exactly makes tsun girls so perfect for anal sex? When I see a cutie tsuning it out, I just start wanting to fuck her cute butt more and more.

>>135733393
I never finished it, does she actually win or is it haremshit?

>>135736090
Watch the anime.
Who wins in the end in LNs? Bunny

>>135724947
>twin tails

>>135725381
She was always dere

>>135736190
Disgusting

>>135736250
Author said fuck it and made bunny win out nowhere.

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Rin isn't very tsun in the first place, and actually starts to go a little in the opposite direction two years after the story.

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>>135736329

>>135736029
You want to replace the stick in her ass with your own stick.

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>>135723690

>>135736495
Fucking this

>>135724305

is maison ikkoku the only proper ending takahashi's ever done?

>>135724998
>>135725104
Cuntdere

>>135736327
bunny is himeji right?

>>135736605
Nah, Inuyasha had a proper one too, just took too long to get there.

>>135736327
She didn't win though.
Literally no one won.
It was a bro-end.

>>135735807
If anything it was the opposite. Chris has her fangs pointy as a result of having to cope with Fine. She became a mushy blob of adorableness after being separated from her.

>>135725981
Fatso kinda fucked up her character here and there so Tsundere McWhatsherface is getting suspicious

Meanwhile MC has scored some serious points

>>135736567
>Syaoran
>defanged
Dare to threaten Sakura in any way in his presence and see if his fangs don't show up. Heck, just try looking funny at her in front of him. That Wolf still have a mean bite, he just choose his princess.

>>135732279
It really can't be worse.
Dragging the romance by spacing it with increasingly longer filler about bland as shit fantasy war, then ruin months of progress by having either Saito or Louise act like a complete retard, rinse and repeat.
The author was so cancerous and contracted one.

I believe there is a God, and He read Zero no Tsukaima.

Anybody have the chart comparing classic tsundere, modern tsundere and the new tsundere?

>>135735956
>>135736019
Best Tsun-Tsun-Dere-Dere of all time.

>>135723690
Hey /a/ tell me. Is Rei Kugimiya still playing major role recently?

>>135737776
She needs to work more. She is now on an age in which the japanese cold could kill her.

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>>135737068

Genj and Miku defanged her, the sword tamed her.

>>135736240
She had the character arc of a classic tsundere (gradual transition from hate to love) along with the presentation of a modern tsun (alternation between hate and affectionate actions, with l-lots of s-s-stammering, you baka) and both approaches well explained through her character.

>>135726556
you know, shana was bad, but no way as bad as the clusterfuck of a plotline she was placed in

Tsunderes are trash lol

>>135727132
>>135732202
>My Balls.
This is the best manga name any mangaka came up with.

>>135727085
>Okusama ga seitokaichou is borderline h and very funny
I've seen funny scenes on youtube. I wanna watch that now.

>>135740689
Wait, that has an anime now?

>>135723690
Man that scene broke my heart

Louise deserves a lot better

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>defanged
You monster.

Forgive the shit tatse, /a/, but there's nothing wrong with a tsundere if she has a good balance of tsun and dere. If they were real and done well, I'd want one for my own personal use.

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>>135723690
louise S1 >>> Louise S4

>>135725981
No.

>>135742793
Louise is love
Louise is life

>>135740744
This. That's not true love that declaration screams desperation and a severe lack of self-worth. Saito is not helping her growing at all.

>>135726402

But each of those changed. At least in their LNs.

Louise was probably the worst at changing because the relationship progression was constantly reset by 'misunderstandings' and character interrupting/trying to jump his dick. I really do wish it had gone completely polygamous early on with none of the bickering.

Taiga softens obviously, takes a while.

Shana does as well, but the whole they become enemies for a while in-between and the lack of romance focus. It was more a 'guy gets the girl at the end and they hook up, after first being cold'. Very little romantic or sexual tension.

>>135723690
Lol C.uck.

>>135740098

Made sense though.

Flame cunts are crazed knights templar can't let the species that has existed since forever eat. So they run around to murder them even after they try to run away to a world where they don't 'have' to kill humans for food.

Took a long time to reach that but was mostly character introductions, world building and showing MC talk to snake/him getting stronger. Throw in some filler about monsters wanting the endless mana device as well.

>>135743296
You forgot to mention Flame Hazes had no fucking idea of Snake's plan. Even if he means well doesn't mean he wasn't an utter dick. Shana became trophy wife at the end. Yuuji will later get bored of her because she's no longer the girl he fell in love with and will seek another strong girl to beat up into submissive love.

>>135726546
You play to win I see

>>135743377

In the romance department it was pretty shit. Shana is a retard because of upbringing and Yuuji sort of dotes on her without really saying too much until the end.

Inexperienced in writing romance I guess? The plot was central focus and romance requires slowing it down (or turning it into 'he gets the girl at the end because'). Yes they start calling each others name, blush a few times but that's about it.

>>135736329
Is this Keit/Ai Night?

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>Dame. Muri.
I just want to dick the tsun out of her.

>>135743529
The build up was interesting and exciting despite some noticeable flaws but the lore seemed engaging. It was the deliver at the end what felt rushed and never really had a moment to sit well until suddenly ended with instant happy end that felt like author patronizing.

"No, fuck you, Yuuji is right! He's MC and everything he does is perfect! Stop questioning him!"

>>135726356
1 leg each then, sorted.

>>135743629
Too late anon, there's no Tsun left, just sweet dere while she prepares dinner for Saito and the current lover he's cheating her with.

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>>135743707
>current lover he's cheating her with.
Reminder that Louise dindu nuffin and Saito deserved everything bad happening to him.

>>135736029
Anal sex is good because it's tighter, warmer and more humiliating for women, since tsunderes are bitches it feels good when they suffer more.

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Tamed but not defanged. Dragons need their fangs after all.

Reminder that if you write terrible stories you get cancer and die just like Zero no Tsukaima's author.

>>135743757
Sad part is that if Someone beats Saito's ass trying to save her he'll get void blasted in the back for his trouble because Louise is now too dependent on his "love". She's gone.

>>135743631

If I recall it was more a gamble about creating a new world, them opposing it, Shana's necklace being pacified after it works and then the FH going off to be assholes in a new world.

I wouldn't agree with the 'MC is right' bit as much as you, because they establish that snake is pretty fucking sure he can do it, that the result of failure is everyone dead anyway. But I think the reconciliation between them at that point in time needed work, or at least a better romance months before to play off. Shana was coming around and softening but it wasn't a real (or decent) relationship yet.

>>135743850
One of the better Louise clones

Even the VA went all the way in trying to imitate Rie

>>135743644
Then you would have this awkward momentum and will eventually topple over.

>>135743844
Succinctly put.

>>135743844
Only from certain point of view. It can also be sweet and a sign of trust among the couple.

>>135744009
Sounds like a good excuse to cuddle in public.

>>135733272
Yes, the conclusion of the series after the autor died.

>>135726402
Man, we truly lived in a golden age

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>>135723690

>>135723690
Are fangs on human characters just a stylistic choice to show off their personality or are they actually supposed to have fangs?

>>135745190
It's a real fad in Japan to get your teeth done to look that way. It supposedly adds a youthful charm to girls.

>>135728478
Or just become an Asuka-fag

>>135736605
>maison ikkoku
>proper ending
She got rid of Kozue by using literally who and his bank account out of nowhere.
Takahashi was planing to make Godai lose his virginity to the talkative city girl he met when skiing so the story would have more substance when he meets Kyoko again but Editor-tight-ass didn't let her.

It was a meh-tier ending.

>>135736329
She evolved into yandere?

>>135726402
Every modern tsundere wants to be Shana without remembering why people liked Shana

Every girl on blade dance gets tamed and defanged by Kamito

>>135726220
This

>>135737489
There's a "new" tsundere? Besides modern?

>>135746419
>Implying
Tusk is part of her harem.

>>135747204
Rather than a transition from tsun to dere or a rapid alternation between them it was shown as a single notch of tsun with the rest filled with dere.

>>135747478
Like Stella-san.

>>135747035
Shana was such a weird show. The setting was pretty shitty but somehow it was good.

Fuck yuuji.

>>135746419
Who cares what she is? She's worthless after mutilating her hair.

>>135747478
>it was shown as a single notch of tsun with the rest filled with dere.
Can I get an example of this?

>>135736090
Pink won, Red pulled a tantrum cockblocking MC from confessing to Pink.

>>135747877
See >>135747532

>>135725981
Still bad and rumors about its cancelation are strong.

>>135747558
It's not Yuuji fault, blame the director.

>people being this retarded

Holy fuck the flamehaze wanted to stop Yuuji's plan because the humans of Xanadu were going to get raped, and the amount of magic left from all that shit would end up fucking both planets. That's fucking why they changed the spell to add a rule of no human eating

Yuuji did everything right
Shana as well

>>135743975
How many Louise clones are there?

>>135732448
This is iketeru futari

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Her transformation into dere is pure gold.

>>135749867
Not enough

And Rie is not getting enough roles as it is either

i just want to see these sadistic tsunderes get humiliated hard

like inject her with aphrodisiac and make her beg for your dick

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>>135723690
>My fucking face when he just walk in the base and steal the jet

>>135751819
Anal and tsundere mix very well

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>>135736029
>tsuing it out

>>135752183
What I would do to some tsunderes wouldn't stop at hard anal

>>135754353
"Who's your daddy" level stuff?

>>135736090
>>135736190
Second season is fucking shit. Just google it.

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>>135723690

She just needs her master urges satisfied.

>>135754890
>Image
Dick flaccid

>>135754978
Gay.

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>>135755536
>Not liking women who slut around in skimpy clothing is consider gay

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Interesting non-romantic example. She was a spunky uptight tsundere until Nanoha bombarded her ass and Signum punched her fangs away.

>>135723690
is this show any good? I love me a good tsundere

>>135757104
Good for fapping but not much else

>>135757104
sure for the generic shit it is, the real issue is the really fucking annoying loli voice

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>>135757104
Irresistible.

>>135757104
It's pedoshit. A healthy young man wouldn't like it.

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>>135757302
U MAD?

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This one desu sempai

>>135757395
>not liking loli
nothing healthy about being a literal fag, anon

>>135758089
you're literally aroused by something that can't breed

you're the fag

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>>135736090
Pink won. Also in the light novel all the girls and all the background guys in class F were psychotic.

>>135736327
She hit on Aki when she got drunk and started calling him by his first name (around vol 3), lived with him after her parents got stuck abroad, got her hairpin from him in kindergarten, bought pictures of him from Mitsurini, and even had a pillow with his picture on it. She liked Aki for a long time but Aki was too stupid to realise any of the girls liked him.

Though in Aki's defence he was the dumbest kid in school.

>>135736705
Yes She also got this hairpin from him when she was in kindergarten.

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>>135738351
Too bad she got cucked by based Maria.
I'm sure one of those Mexicans in Val Verde will take her back to look after one of her thousand brown mini-Chrises.

Posting superior tamed tsundere

>>135758156
So its OK to be aroused by girls as soon as they bleed ?

Erabe SJW- san

>>135723690
>Letting the bitch go soft on you
>Not tying her up, gagging her and having glorious hate sex while all she can do is glare at you, knowing that you own her and can do whatever you want to her

>>135760768
>>>/r9k/

>>135761016
not him but arkanine is too beta to do be dom

they have femdom threads every time I've went there they also like dick

>>135745712
I don't want to derail the thread by starting an argument, but even though it would have been interesting to make Godai lose his virginity with that girl, I don't think the ending would have changed much, but yeah, the build-up would have been much more interesting, I wonder why they didn't allow it.
I really hoped he'd man up and straight tell Kozue he was going to marry Kyoko though, instead of that shitshow.
Overall I still think the ending was good

>>135761016
I've literally never been to r9k. I don't even know what the point of the board is aside from requiring each post to be unique.