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Why do nips complain about not making enough money if they won't release shit in the west?
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They do release shit, but generally only according to the market.
That's why certain European countries get lots of releases while other places get almost nothing at all, and certainly nothing localized.
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Various reasons. For one, we won't pay the crazy prices, and they're afraid if they lower them, imports will then undercut the home market.
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>>135712504
Because Americans are retarded and want everything for 50cents an episode. They don't understand that anime is a business and the only way it can continue is with high, premium prices to make up for its shit volume.


>b-but they just have to pander to my pig disgusting American taste
Then it wouldn't be anime.
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>>135713967
I just mean for Eva for example, they already have the packaging laid out, the Blu Rays themselves and a sub and a dub. Why not just outsource some company to print a few thousand?
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>>135713190
I wonder who hatched the bright idea of putting Japan and the USA in the same BD region.
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>>135714334
People are gonna end up getting the cheaper one so it's less profits. Not to mention that the American retail market is a lot more greedy than the Japanese one.
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Because your average American isn't going to pay $79.99 for the collectors edition containing 1/4th of a season.
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>>135714635
But you would pay $79-$99 for the Kara no Kyoukai BDs. They just have to omit all the stellar packaging and goodies.
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>>135714635
Yep, American retards have a horrible entitlement culture going on.
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>>135714696
>paying more than 30$ for any movie
Hahaha not a chance.

50$ with all the extras is already pushing what's possible in the West. I'd argue they'd have to lower it to 40$ for Europe if they expect to sell well.

The amusing thing is these are perfectly doable prices and they would make tons of money if they did it. In fact they'd do tons of money domestically if they lowered the prices too, most japs by BDs at sales now anyway.
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>>135714756
BDs for other entertainment don't cost nearly as much in Japan. Anime only costs that much because otaku will pay it and it has such a reputation for being schlock that nobody else will pay for it period.
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>>135714334
Because Anno hates America and Americans and doesn't want them near his Anime.
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>>135714417
probably sony
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>>135714696
For all of them, sure. Individually, fuck no, and I love KnK.
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>>135712597
>certainly nothing localized
You mean "translated and subbed."
Goddammit stop using that other word.
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I would actually buy physical copies of my favourite shows if they had reasonable prices.
The BD set for Eva costs a bit short of a half of the median salary in my country, for instance. I make more than that, but fuck this.
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>>135715824
I definitely meant a whole set.

It's impossible to pay for KnK in the west, isn't it?
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Because Home girl would rather watch Jersey Shore and partay with friends than watch Shinji and Papa Gendo complain to one another
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>>135714334
It isn't just a matter of printing and selling. There are trade regulations which come with all sorts of licensing and taxation. Unless you already have an established distributor it is actually rather difficult to sell a product in another region unless there is an open trade agreement between the nations.
While it is easy to blame the Japanese companies for the lack of wider exportation of products in the land of the Clapping Burger, there is more than meets the eye in respect to this issue. This is one of the main reasons why a small company can afford to sell and ship items to foreign buyers but may never have the ability to set up a line of retail distribution of the product physically within the buyers region.
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>>135715978
In all seriousness do you know how many manga localization companies haven't been able to make it because people won't buy their shit and one scanlator is enough to get rid of millions of potential customers

Del Rey and some others, just because some nerds on /a/ are willing to shell out some cash to get a BD set of Evangelion doesn't mean most people are

If enough people don't buy companies are unfortunately not going to break even
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>>135714682
>tfw i find those prices reasonable
>tfw a filthy 3rd-world pleb
Maybe being living in a oligarch country ain't so bad.
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>>135716103
NGE is pretty popular. I would be very surprised if the Blu-Ray didn't make money in America. The problem is more licencing than money if I remember correctly.
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Nips made a bizarre market and keep paying the premiums animes demand, it is all conditioned by the industry and its supporters. The otaku believe they genuinely own most of the stock in the industry by paying these ridiculous prices for BDs and things, rather than the western way of doing business.
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>Breaking Bad boxset (5 seasons)
>$70
>2 episodes of anime
>$70

It's not gonna work.
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>>135712504
Because it costs more to change the disc format?
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>>135714696
Cheap
Links? For proof of course
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>>135716307

Whole set is currently 300 bucks on amazon
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>>135716307
>reading comprehension
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>>135716418
>Not noticing the other messages
oh you
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>>135714756
It's called freedom. Enjoy whatever slavery they paint over and call freedom in that shithole you hail from.
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>>135714682
>Baaaaw, niche media from other countries cost more than my international Jew-shill Hollywood films
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Japanese businessmen are stuck in the past and dont want to change because muh honor and traditions
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>>135716218
>rather than the western way of doing business.
Where corporations earn billions of dollars in profit every year and strangle out competition through lobbyist and legislation?
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>>135716714
>implying Japanese businessmen and politicians dont do shady shit with Yakuza.
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>>135712504
It's going to get over run by America's shitty popculture. Just exactly how small the anime fandom exist in America?

And another reminder is that liking anime is considered as trashy as mlp through standard public eyes in America. It's still mostly a closet hobby people wouldn't like to share casually.
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Why do people keep saying Americans this and that. Japan should market their BDs to the whole world with subtitles of the major languages.

Instant killings there.
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>>135716848
>>135716848
like fuck I don't want anime to be popularized in west. Imagine all of the SJW and feminists it could reel in.
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>>135716833
That "shady shit" is nothing on the scale of multinational corporations fucking over the natural resources of entire nations and corrupting governments, you fucking idiot.
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>>135713967
Charging the same as a AAA game for 4 fucking episodes.

Nips need to print more copies, put more episodes on a disc and increase its consumer base. Simple as that. Right now they mint very few copies and market to only the most dedicated of otaku. They need to expand the fucking base.
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These threads are fucking stupid.

We always end up with people not understanding how the anime industry works and why prices are set a certain way.

It is a Niche market
Anime is funded by BD sales primarily so prices tend to be high.
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>>135717028
>They need to expand the fucking base.
Why?
You are not their target market.
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>>135717083
Blame the entitled manchildren who think the world should be set up to facilitate their every whim.
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At the very very least, there is no reason why they don't sell digitally.
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>>135717083
this.
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>>135717150
There are many reasons why they don't sell digitally.
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>>135716103
> millions
This is a massive exagerration. Not to mention, we have entirely different cultures that the typical consumer doesn't care for. Try explaining magical girls or school kids with super powers for example.That's not to say people disregard it completely, but marketing this stuff can't be easy.
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>>135712504
If you really wanted it you would have imported it.
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>>135715896
>He didn't buy both
Stay pleb.
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>>135717083
http://www.someanithing.com/sales-faqguide
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>>135717083
So un-niche the fucking market. It's only niche because they don't mint enough copies and charge to fucking much. Otherwise, nips wouldn't reverse import.
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>>135717150
Horriblesubs would say otherwise.
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>>135717338
>So un-niche the fucking market.
Jesus christ you're fucking delusional.
Markets don't just "un-niche" themselves.
Get out of your room for once and observe reality a little more.
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>>135717391
With reverse importing there's obviously a market there that wants the product but are unwilling to pay the absurd prices. Japanese business men are artificially keeping the market niche by printing few copies and charging absurd prices and turning away potential customers with smaller pocket books.
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>>135717391
Anything's possible
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>>135717516
>absurd prices
Clearly not. Their goal is to maximize profits, not to help poor people buy anime.
/a/'s whining about prices becomes increasingly hilarious when you look at the contributions to Kikestarters. Suddenly you have people bragging about having paid the most.
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>>135712504
Lurk more, faggot.
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>>135714682
>fem
Kill yourself.
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>>135716640
>Japanese businessmen
Yes, the should just go out and copy the amazing western animation scene. One just needs to look at how animation is flourishing over here to see that our way of doing things is vastly superior.

Are you retarded?
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>>135717930
More product = More consumers
1,000 units at $500 = $500,000
10,000 units at $50 = $500,000

There's a production cost there I can't figure but really, you can market more product to a larger base and still make relatively the same profit.
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>>135718046
I miss 90s Batman and Superman
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>>135717967
>am i fitting in yet?
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Probably because they don't want to deal with the censoring and making sure the anime isn't offensive to any special snowflake.
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>>135717516
>reverse importing
You mean exporting? What are you talking about?
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>>135716157
600 of your country's coloured funbucks probably wouldn't buy a happy meal in the 1st world.
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>>135718597
No, reverse importing is when people import things from other countries that are created in the country you live in. It would be like an American importing a Japanese version of an American film.
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>>135712504
Because usually when they release shit in the west, they sell their licenses lump sum to distributors without getting much in return.

When they attempted to do the distribution themselves, they were hilariously inept at localization (see what happened to the localization of Revolutionary Girl Utena).

So it's the choice between making little money off of the western release thanks to middlemen or failing to make an impact with an otherwise decent anime when they do the localization themselves.
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>>135712504
ARE YOU CRAZY THEY DON'T KNOW WE EXISTS
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>>135717150
There are a small number of shows on Google Play for reasonable prices.

The problem is they're all either English dubbed or Japanese with subs. You can't pick your preference.
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>>135718964
>mfw I imported the Japanese Tonari no Seinfeld DVDs
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>>135719013
Utena was shit anyway
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Western consumers don't care about physical media anymore. It's all about digital streaming and CR is already offering streaming anime at a rock-bottom price.
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>>135718085
It's infinitely harder to expand your market base by a factor of 100 than to rip off your loyal pre existing customers with absurd prices.
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>>135714417
They could always put English subtitles on japanese BD's.
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