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Literally fuck all happens in this show and nothing resolves.

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Literally fuck all happens in this show and nothing resolves.

Waifu bait with no ending.

I'm mad.
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Wait for season 3. It'll be the last season.
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>>135685910


It ends with 8man shooting up the school
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Dropped at episode 5
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You just described all LN haremshit
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>>135685780
>We ran out of source material: the non-ending
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>>135685957
>I LOVE YOU ALL!
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>>135685780
literally emotional Batman set in a high school

I thought it was a nice change of pace from the usual shit that comes out of high school anime.
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I kinda liked the first season but the second went full melodrama.
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It's a harem light novel, and not the good funny kind, rather the high school melodrama kind. You must really be new to not predict this was going to be yet another waifu cash grab.
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I want this show dubbed just so I can know what the fuck is going on.
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>>135685780
I might just be retarded but I wasn't really clear on why the girls were pissed off at 8man for 75% of the show.
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>>135686760
8man is the kind of retard who wants to be an edgy loner, those type of kids always piss everyone off to no end.
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>>135686760
MEN!

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DID!
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>>135686760
generally stupid reasons but if you don't know why then yeah i guess you are a little bit
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>>135685780
>not watching for the GODDESS and her master plans
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>>135685910
there is another
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>>135687061
I don't remember yukino saying that
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>>135685780
Season 2 was the show that season 1 was making fun of
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>>135689025
To be fair this was a pretty good scene. The awkwardness was portrayed really well
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>>135686760

something something character development harem
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It started as a good show with a good MC who need no whore to one that cried bitch tears toward a bunch of ungrateful whores.

>LN haremshit
Not even once.

MC should have went after the sensei cake. Probably the only girl in the show that isn't dumb.
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>>135687061
This, Haruno was the only reason I stuck with S2. Her and Saki and the mean blonde. Seriously, the supporting characters are more likable than the main leads. Fuck 8man and his retardation
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>>135689214
Theres still time /a/non
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>>135687061
the Goddess's plan is YukinoXHachiman

Everyone needs to get with the plan
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>>135689025

dere-mode Spaghettinon is just too cute
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Reminder that Yuckyno YukinoSHITa is objectively the worst girl.
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>>135685957

he shoots his semen into all the girls School Days style?
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>>135689214

He already enjoys frequent S&M sessions with Sensei, besides the ramen dates and obsessive texting and long late night drives to romantic spots.... what more do you want?
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>>135691499
You mean best.
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>>135691618

Happy New Yukino Year, Brother
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Hachiman actually rejected a girl, unbelievable. Sure it was gentle and light hearted but still, she looks hurt
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>>135685957
He's not american enough for that.
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Post imouto lewds!
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So I'm guessing this our new Yahari General thread now?
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Yahari After Story when?
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>>135689025

This.

S1 is 9/10
S2 is 4/10
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>>135692990
Was it source material's fault or the adaptation? I also didn't like S2 except for the first episodes.
Should I read the LNs?
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>>135685957
But he's not white.
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>>135685780
>there are people who swear by season 2 of this
I still don't get it.
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>>135693042
S2 doesn't add in all of 8man's monologues so it removes most of the happiness from the drama that goes on.

FEEL made a lot of scenes more dramatic and tenser than they were meant to be, like Yukino mimicking 8man's words.
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When will this become relevant again?
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人 ~ look closely and one of them is slacking off: a cultural festival
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IROHA OR DEATH
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>>135694757
Yui offers you a hug.
You look around.
You're alone with her.

What do?
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>>135685780
What do you expect? The LN is still ongoing.
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I want to marry Hiratsuka-sensei
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>>135689214
>>135695309
Why do cakes almost always get relegated to the side even when they're clearly the best girl?
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>>135695741
Looks like they're going to end up crushing Yui.
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>>135693063
10/10

Also came here to post best girl
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>>135694890
Eh, nandatte?
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>>135694890
Probably hug her and then feel really bad about myself for my decadent behavior afterwards.
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>>135686708
>watching dubs
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>>135695741
>Saika literally the only one he's an active participant in
That's about right.
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>>135686708
As a person who watches dubs as well as subs what? That makes no sense unless there are no sub groups with any English proficiency whatsoever.
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>>135685780
genuine
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haven't been following the ln at all, did someone win yet
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>>135685957
I hope that was genuine
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Fellow Saikafags, I want to watch this for the cute boys, but I don't want my heart to be broken over watching Saika lose for an entire series. Is it worth it outside of this perfection?
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>>135686818
>those type of kids always piss everyone off to no end
And they always end up lonely since nobody gives a shit about them. This is why this show is shit.
It tries to be realistic and yet it's anything but.
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Threads actually had more fun than show itself.
>inb4 cancer
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>>135699368
The trick is you have to be lonely and attractive, I think.
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>>135685957
I wish that would happen
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>Best girl is barely in the show

Why do the japs have such shitty taste?
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>>135696845
They already did.
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>>135699368
The thing about 8man was he managed to piss off people who gave a shit
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>>135699292
Don't forget to watch the S1 ova.
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>>135699573
Still doesn't work if you are like 8man pr worse than him.
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>>135694890
tell me, how does it feel to hug with a girl, i vague rmb ounce as a child
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>>135697628
her hair is mean for pet and rustle
MC is struggling with rational
>screencap of the day
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>>135699292
Believe it or not, Saika is actually in the lead of the MCbowl
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>>135701998
Please don't get my hopes up. I know how this series is not going to end. ;_;
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>>135701998
pic related
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>>135702178
Who isn't thinking that every day though?
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>>135699292
Nothing basically happens so Saika is in the same position of any other girl, with the difference that 8man literally came when he gave him his phone number
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>>135702735
>>135702178
Saika is clearly seducing 8man:
>moaning his name during sleep and sleep beside him
>always blushing and do the fucking rapid eye twinkling
>acts with feminine than normal girls like walk in small pace, brushing her hair
>>train scene: inviting 8man but Yui interfere by boobs attack which lethal though IRL
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>>135702873
>inviting 8man but Yui interfere by boobs attack which lethal though IRL
dude what
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>>135701868
Like grabbing sand bags
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>>135700242
Saki had a LOT more in the novels, the anime is like 1/3 the material. To bad had to be so rushed
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>>135703925
quote:film The 40-Year-Old Virgin
u forgot
but if remotely possible, i will appreciate it as it is private and near to the heart
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>>135693626
Ha, with the font you chose they're both slacking off
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>>135704003
But some get offended and hurt here by experienced guy's descriptions.
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>>135704094
the film is called The 40-Year-Old Virgin and as a virgin (as remained to this moment), i rmb the quote
i am not offended, just bitching myself
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>>135704755
She's going to take the poison just to get him to kiss her isn't she.
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>>135685957
G E N U I N E
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>>135685957
Some of you guys are genuine. Don't come to Sobu High tomorrow
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>>135705193
Let's face it he's only after one person then he'll just kill himself.
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>>135685780

The writer drink his own kool-aid despite writing shitty LNs. It was a series devoid of realism, and then he decided he could portray completely banal archetypes or caricatures as realistic human beings simply by incorporating more drama along with other missteps.
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I want to sniff Yukino's feet while she humiliates me.
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>>135693042
Listen anon, don't fall for the "it's better in the LN" bait.

The series was good for the first couple volumes until the author sold himself out and pandered to the shitty otaku's.
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>>135686675
>>135689025
This so much.

This show goes to shit real fast.
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>>135705427
How is he pandering the the shitty otaku's when Watari is one of them, he's writing it for himself.
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>>135693063
Like everything else academic whites underachieve:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seung-Hui_Cho
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Polygamy end though
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>>135705560
>believing his lies
WW is in it for the money.
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>>135705611
I want to brush her hair.
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>>135705619
He is in for the MAX COFFEE and Eguchi tang.
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>>135705663
I want her to brush my hair
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>>135705785
i shared your feel, bruh.
Such intimacy, never had IRL
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>>135705832
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>>135705785
I want Yui to brush my hair while I'm thinking of Yukinoshita and genuine.
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I want to see Haruno comfort Yukino after she steals 8man away from her
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>>135706154
She knows Yukino-chan is just going to end up playing with her toy doesn't she?
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Why Hachiman so funny?
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>>135706257
Because he's so edgelord, it's hilarious!
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>>135706209
Haruno will actually make proper use of her merchandise.
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>>135687061
Remove harano. You're the worst harano. You suck
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>het harems will die in your lifetime
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>>135705785
FUCK YUI!
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>>135706422
dream on
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>>135706422
When will we have the glorious omni harem?
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>>135685780

the show/novels haven't ended yet, retard.
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>>135706449
preach
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>>135706452
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>>135706517
Die one~
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>>135691773
He didn't think she was serious and I don't think she was even that serious.

He won't reject either YY and choose not to do anything with them.
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>>135706639
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Considering how Hachiman doesn't like too much change and would rather hurt himself than make change the group dynamic, I would bet a thousand dollars if Yui was in his room during the Summer break butt naked and said she wants to have sex, he would reject her.

The guy simply doesn't do impulsive shit after the middle school incident. Same with Yukino. No this guy requires a lot of time easing into the idea before anything can happen. Same with Yukino, hence why they are perfect for each other.
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>>135706644
8man won't be able to keep running from his own feelings with his bullshit logic, he'll have to face his own feelings.
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>>135706209
i want to played by Onee--chan
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>>135706393
Fuck off Yukinoshitter.
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>>135706670
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>>135705785
God, it is amazing to me how much affection she has for him.

I wonder how wet she was.
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>>135706724
>The guy simply doesn't do impulsive shit after the middle school incident.
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>>135706724
>doesn't do impulsive shit
Did you mean GENUINE shit?
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Yui is best girl. inb4 saika, "she" isn't even a girl.
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>>135706848

Yes because asking a loner girl if she would be friends with you is the same magnitude of inserting your penis into a girl. Foh.
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>>135706913
Yui is only best sufferer.
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Hikki is Yui's Hikki. She is a good girl who will get what she wants in the end. Yukino doesn't even loves Hikki, she loves Pan-san.
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>>135706848
8man still needs to be eased into an idea, though. You'd have to strike when the iron is hot, too: Yui could tell him she loves him, and he'd believe it right there, but the next day, he'd have convinced himself she's just saying that to be nice, or meant it platonically or whatever.
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>>135706933
She deserve to win.
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Do people honestly believe the cold hearted Yukino could love Hach has a girlfriend?

I wish I had the quote of the anon but he said something along of the lines that Yukino and Hach will have a quick hot fling and nothing more.

Now Yui is only one who I could see being a girlfriend and eventually a wife.
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>>135707027
She has the exact same face as Sagami.
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>>135706730
He ships YY bro. If you think the love triangle won't fuck their shit up in the short term you haven't been paying attention. 8man is so vague we don't even know if he likes either or if he has even bothered thinking about it.
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Any news on volume 12? It's been 6 months. I think this has been the longest we've gone without a new volume
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>>135694842
IROHA OR DEATH
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>>135706848
>Vol 1
>She and I are certainly alike in some way. I found myself thinking that in spite of myself.
>The silence in that moment somehow felt nice.
>I felt my heart beat a little faster. It was like my heart was saying it wanted to beat faster than the ticking of the second hand and beyond.
>Then…
>Then she and I….
>“Hey, Yukinoshita…If you want, I could be your frie-“
>“I’m sorry. That is impossible.”
>“Whaaaat? But I wasn’t even finished!”
>Yukinoshita went ahead and flat out rejected me. And on top of that she had this look on her face like she was grossed out.
>Yup this girl aint cute at all. Romantic comedies and stuff should just go blow up.

>Vol 6
>––Right.
>––She and I aren’t similar in the least.
>––Maybe that’s why. Maybe that’s why, whenever we exchange words like this, it always feels refreshing and pleasant.
>––I felt the remaining passion from the festival welling up in my body. I posed the question again and the new answer I arrived at is my conclusion.
>––So maybe.
>––So maybe she and I.
>“…Hey, Yukinoshita. We can—”
>“I’m sorry, that’s impossible.”
>“Gah! I didn’t even get to finish, damn it.”
>Yukinoshita went and firmly denied me. She chuckled, finding it funny somehow.

What will Volume 12 bring?
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>>135707191
>volume 12
>"Hey, Yukinoshita. We can be f-"
>"I’m sorry, that’s -.”
>"fuck off."
>"Gladly."
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>>135707252
no
iyada
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>>135707191
In volume one he really thought a lot of thing about Yukino "in spite of himself".
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is it just this translation or are the novels pretty much incomprehensible gibberish?
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>>135707881
That first part yes since it's a paper written by Hachiman.
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>>135685780
Are you sure you were hydrated enough?
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>>135707991

i know it's 8man's paper (i've seen the anime) but i'm not just talking about that. a lot of the wording seems...off. there also seems to be a lot of parts that lack punctuation and grammar. nanodesu also don't seem to be able to know how to create paragraphs.

what i want to know is if the japanese version was like this, nanodesu translated it correctly and WW just isn't a very good writer and/or lacked an editor. you know, kind of like how nasu's fate hentai scenes are.
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>>135685957
I believe in 8man to 4t up everything
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>>135708131
Oh, that's just Frog-kun, he translated Volume 1-5 since he's an Aussie his translation does tend to show that.
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>>135708228

oh. well, i'm australian and i know how to proper english (except on 4chan, of course). maybe i should go teach this faggot a lesson?

joudan joudan, thanks for the translation.
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>>135708228
Speaking of which, who hyped for qualidea here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohFqqKSxMk0
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>>135708572
I wonder how afraid Yukino is of Haruno taking 8man away.

Is it me or did Yukino deemed to be bothered that Yui and 8man were out together? Is she surprised they are friends? In the AU she still seemed bothered.
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>>135685780
>picking this trash up in the first place
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>>135708794
How else am I supposed to put it in the bin, Penn-sempai?
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>>135685957
>I WANT SOMETHING DEAD
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Dropped because best girls was the gay lover
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>>135700242
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>>135709998
Ebina is shit

Also Orimoto and Komachi were what kept season 2 watchable for me. Every sight of them was like a taste of water to a thirsty man.
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>>135700242
But she gave us the best scene of the whole season. That was enough for me
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>>135710555
If Saki went to school with her hair down, she'd attract every male in the whole school without a doubt rivaling Yukino
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>>135709998
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>>135710664
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>>135710776
>they will never fight over you
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>>135710708
>>135710555
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>>135710849
>Saki will never be a nervous wreck in her marriage with 8man

Watari, please.
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>>135710886
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My personal favourite
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>>135710823
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>>135710910
The world is cruel and unjust. Girls that deserve the spotlight never get it.
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>>135710936
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>>135710886
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>>135711007
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>>135710918
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>>135711047
I just want YY to see this and go full jealousy
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>>135711096
That's not full jealously. This is full jealously.
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>my love comedy is wrong as expected
>focuses on the typical girls as expected
We've been cheated and lied to.
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>>135711007
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>>135711125
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>>135711218
>not this
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>>135710978
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>>135711242
But I have the winner right here

>>135711253
>children look like clones of their parents

I want this to stop.
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>>135708703
It's pretty clear 8man isn't interested in her. In fact he's probably the least interested in Haruno out of any person Yukino has ever met.
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>>135711248
>You'll never see 8man make good on his promise to play with Keika again
>Keika will never force beg Haa-chan to play House with her Saa-chan
>"All right, I'll be the girl! Saa-chan will be the mommy and Haa-chan will be the daddy!"
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>>135711248
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>>135711326
How are you going to deal with it? Throw shitty rice krispies at it?
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Next novel when
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>>135711405
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>>135711506
When the new VN comes out. It's taking so long because they're writing routes for everyone.
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>all this Saki
I see that /a/'s taste has drastically improved
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I hope there will not be too much of that harem/romantic bullshit is the next season
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>>135686760
Several reasons and all of them were left hanging in the air. The most obvious is that the girls are in love with him and that he either knows but plays pretend or straight up doesn't care about love (but the club itself apparently). Some other reasons are that he always tries to find solution to problems which will end up hurting him or make him the most hated guy of the town but also doesn't know or want to know any different approaches. The girls hate that and that he chooses to remain basically mentally crippled, something along those lines I can't put it into words too well. In the end no one is able to speak his mind openly because they're insecure teens despite their appearance.
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>>135711658
Saki is built for breeding and more interesting that YY put together.
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>>135711658
Why thank you brother
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>>135711711
*than

Yumiko is still my favorite.
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>>135711658
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>>135686760
8man does the usual shit which apparently damages only himself to benefit others. Y&Y love him and don't want that. Also they got buttmad when 8man "confessed" to Ebina. Also,they both love him and Yui slapped it on his face but he cares more about Saika. Also some shit with Haruno trolling.
Basically shit was tense, they were both frustrated for their own things,their rivalry, and 8man acting like a wannabe batman and all of that escalated in GENUINE.
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>>135712014
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>>135711341
Sagami can go to sell pussy
Any remotely possibility evoke public riot
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>>135712014
She's the best parts of both Yui and Yukino combined and improved upon further. She's a goddess reincarnate
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Saki vs Yumiko would have better than Yukino vs Yui. At least they'd actually compete. Hoping for a swerve.
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>>135712089
Preach it, Brother!
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>>135685957
>Japanese civilian
>Firearms

Pick one.
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>>135712014
>>135712063
>>135712089
The eyes are much attractive compare to the anime's
>soul deep, intriguing
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>>135685780
>Waifu bait with no ending.
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I just want a third season damn it
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>>135685957
he doesnt use lethal force
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>>135712503
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>>135712526
I don't know I feel okay with season's 2 ending. I mean, season 3 will be too dramatic and sad, and I didn't start to watch this anime for dem feels...
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>>135712549
>>135712577

>Hey babe
>first time met u
>but your beautiful blue eyes are so deep
>capture my heart and soul
>my eyes wont move an inch from yours

talk with Saki in the bar, would i get punched?
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>>135712664
>>135712677
feel is coming
>never had girl to hold your arm
>never had girl depend/rely on you
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>>135712776
yes
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>>135712776
She'll threaten to hit ya if you say something like that again.

If you do, she might just look down and sternly ask you to leave so she can do her job
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>>135712863

>u have punched me
>going to report
>apologize? i need something more genuine
>be my date for a day

anon decide next action
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>>135712664
>Ew,gross. Is she TOUCHING me? Jesus,get a grip. Not on me. Wish it was Saika.
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>>135712966
>roleplaying
not in my /a/
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>>135712955
i am oyasan
i need to be entertained
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>>135713016
alternatively
>too close
>mushy feeling
>nervous
>cant move an inch, sudden action scare them
>try to control boner
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>>135713040
Well, if you've a taste for masochism, tell her you beat up her brother one time after school.

And greet the pavement from the top of Angel's Ladder when you get kicked out the window
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>>135713141
she will feel bad right if i hurt bad
take chance to move her
make her responsible or take legal action
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>>135691773
Just imagine if she actually won there? how will the others handle knowing that those 2 are in a relationship.
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>>135713299
Tobe would beat the shit out of him
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>>135713299
Ebina: just as planned
intense physical contact while moaning
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>>135705663
Well brushing a girl's hair sure is effective to win her over.
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>>135706829
And she is loosing, fuck you Watari.
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>>135707191
He will finally accept that they can't be friends without causing to much trouble and will end any relationship they could have.
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>>135713321
Tobe's genuine is Iroha
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>>135711352
That's the reason of why the shipping fuel, Haruno always get the attention of everybody, be love or hate, Hachiman gives her nothing, he just don't care for her, he knows she is dangerous, but in the end he doens't really care for her, thing that catch Haruno attention.
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>>135711657
I wish.

I just hope we get a college sequel.
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>>135711756
I haven't see "I want to kill this fucking cunt" and "now that's alpha" for a while.
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>>135697684
well every oregairu sub group was horrible. OfficalSubs where honestly the best and even those where bad
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>>135713299
LN/Anime/Manga of the year.
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>>135686708
It wasn't really hard to get.
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>>135713606
He couldn't ignore this.
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>>135685780
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>>135685780
it's wish fulfillment shit.
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>>135704326
really the soft parts of women are just fat under skin. so if a woman really likes you and hugs you she'll press her breasts against you and put her head sideways on you chest with her hands on your back midway down. Since most shorter than males that means smelling their nice hair too. Having hands on lower back you can feel where the fat of their hips and buttocks start. That's the best I can describe it.
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>>135712677
if by feels you mean being annoyed?
I hope this girl could at least satisfy my cute girl quota, but it's just a pain to watch this show.
>oh anon if you would just talk every girl would doki doki you
r9k the anime
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>>135714073
really wished for it to be more
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>>135714136
>speechless
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>>135713831

I sense from LN Hachiman thinks of Haruno as one that bullied Yukino in the past; that means in a sense she is on his shit list, he at least three times has given Haruno attitude when he thinks she's being unfair to Yukino. You want some angry attention from Hachiman, try to screw with Yukino
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>>135714300
Let me add this since I'm already due for some angry retorts, but it seems to be concern to some and might be helpful - in high school and college I had no girlfriend or even girl who was a friend. Way to meet girls that AREN'T part of bar/disco/rave/concert scene (which I'm guessing most here wouldn't want that kind) is activities and places that "quality" girls would hang out. Charities, community work, places of learning. be clean, be honest, have a job or be in school.
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>>135714350
What a white knight.
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>>135714510
nah 8man is batman
>>135714470
thx for being serious, i will keep in mind
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S2 is fine. The drama and conflict is necessary for character development. But I do miss S1 at times. Things were so much simpler back then and it looked better too.
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>>135714613
What I miss from S1 are 8man eyes.
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>>135714613
>it looked better too.
I'll have to disagree with you there, the artstyle in S2 looks much better.
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>>135714613
>>135714686
>>135714734
the art style is definitely better , smoother
>girls looking better
>8man become top handsome MC in my history
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>>135714613
>"S1 looked better"
>cookie cutter artstyle
>terrible animation

S2 was better in every way
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>>135685780
>still watching this generic trash
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>>135714510
Only for Yuki and Komachi.
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>>135714350
Doesn't take much to tick him off.
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>>135714816
S2 is a improvement of the art style and animation, but I really prefer S1 8man's eyes since I feel those capture the "fish eyes" better.
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>>135714858
Generic? What romance anime is like this one?
The ones that are "close" are yet very different to me in reasons for drama and characters

ToraDora
Hanagi
Hyouka
Kokoro Connect
Anohana
White Album 2
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>>135714231
Yeah, I don't want Oreigaru to become like any other harem / romantic anime. It was se genuine at the beginning + I don't want it to be really "sad", I wanna feel like "satisfied" when I'd finish the whole anime and not think "what would have happened if... ?"
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>>135715034
it is true.
S1 is dead fish despising
S2 oddly match his face, presenting a hard,harsh man look , not unlike male model
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>>135715034
S1 worked better as introduction since it portrayed him and his attitude pretty well. The change of his looks go in line with his character development in S2, he also wasn't as negative as before but more of a realist.
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>>135715120
Watching some teenager struggle about nothing is just infuriating to me. Guess I'm too stupid to comprehend their problems, but to me the whole show moved nowhere and the only thing keeping me going were cute girls or something.
While I like characters like 8-man, seeing this kinda wish fulfilment prolonged by all this "genuine" is just annoying.
Maybe I'm just not seeing this big picture or something.
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>>135715120
genuine at the beginning
>he trying to fit in to society?

>I don't want it to be really "sad", I wanna feel like "satisfied
sad is inevitable at least emptiness
satisfied all fanbase seem impossible
>>135715224
teen growing to man
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>>135715243
>Maybe I'm just not seeing this big picture or something.

Nah, it's crap.
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>>135713730
Oh okay. I'm with you then. I haven't watched it yet anyway.
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>>135715129
oh man, Iroha looks like she is going to jam the handle of that spatula into Orimoto's voice box *shiver*
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>>135713831
I love seeing Hachiman getting lewdly used for other people's pleasure.
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>>135715481
she is not tsundere right?
>>135715442
quoting certain anime: natural gigolo
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>>135715243
Yeah at some points I realized that the anime was only about the relation between the three characters and not about 8man world vision. Now I'm watching cute girls bitching for a beta alpha kid. This is still good though because the characters are well done.

>>135715252
I know but like now the show is almost exclusively about their love stories which are in reality pathetic and will be inevitably sad. I'd have preferred a lighter progress.
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>>135715442

Hiratsuka-sensei, Yui, and Haruno are the ones who lewdly use him for their please. Sensei beats him, Yui rests her breasts or caresses his hair and hugs his head, and Haruno pokes him with breasts or leans on him or pokes him. Iroha grabs his arms at times but is not too lewd, did give him indirect kiss with spoon though. Yukino on the other hand is shy and demure and grabs his sleeve or hem for comfort or security, and also hides behind him with zero distance for dogs or first meeting Zaimokuza (in LN) but there is no lewd intention she was scared.
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>>135715596
>that summary
fantasy for a trouble youth
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>>135715596
Yukino is lame.
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>>135715580
Hachiman has helped a lot of people with his "newly expanded" world view though; getting two student councils on track and kind of being "producer" for community event. Also other studo projects and a couple school events are in LN that he was he key person for doing or conceiving idea
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>>135715734
nah, this fit her character and is very lovely
>>135715741
he is going to be well-known senpai
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>>135715734

no, she has a couple people that have gotten past her shell, and she is in love with one of them so is like melted butter toward him. Cut her some slack, she's never felt this way before and finds it confusing
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>>135715808
Her character is lame.
>>135715852
No, Yukino is a dork and dorks get bullied.
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>>135713434
Look what reading these threads too much can do for you.

It's 50/50 but the Yukinofags are so desperately projecting their 'evidence' onto these threads that you'd almost get caught up in it and really start to believe Yui has no chances. Even though Vol11 redeemed her.
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>>135715989

no that was dirty trick Yui tried to pull at the end, locking Yukino out by fiat to claim everything, and moreover claiming to know answer to Yukino's family problem but making telling Yukino part of the deal. Yui is not a nice girl.
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>>135715948

Only her family has bullied Yukino to cause harm, she is not harmed by any other's bullying. People with that kind of trauma and alienation problem are not "dorks"
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>>135716159
Yes they are. Yukino has become a complete dork, totally hapless and helpless. She exists to be either protected or bullied, but she's so lame bullying her is the right thing to do.
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>>135716101
Yukino should grow a damn spine. Stop defending her; it's bad for her.
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>>135716345
Girls are precious and to be protected
>anime
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>>135716101
Why don't people read the diaries?

She made that proposal with the sole intention of it being shot down. That is why she looked sad/disappointed when Yukino was about to agree to it. This only goes to show the latter has not progressed in the slightest over the course of 11 volumes since she still hesitates and can't call her own shots or fix shit.

Yui could tell things were not going anywhere and if it were for Yukino we'd have a Hagenai 2.0 end. So she forced this situation, knowing full well she isn't a nice girl (she told 8man this too), using the only "answer" she could come up with: friendship end.
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>>135716286
ah I see, you're an asshole to people who are bullied by those in power over them. well that clears up reason for your point of view.
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>>135716517

I did read the diaries, she would have taken everyone's consent to her trick
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>>135716393
No, bullying is a form of love.
>>135716566
Don't take your frustration out on me. It's the best for Yukino. Coddling doesn't help.
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>All this Saki love
>No Yumiko love
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>>135716517
What diaries? Where can I find them?
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>>135716566
She needs to learn to stand up for herself. That's bullying is for.
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>>135716648
>lusts for a guy that probably has a rape basement and enjoys it every night waiting for the day he'll bring Yukinon in
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>>135716646
actually not true, I don't know how far Watari will go in depicting situation of person traumatized by family guilt-based manipulation and bullying, but being loved and shown self worth by someone close to them is very important part of healing process. If Watari took some psych courses for his degree at Meiji University we might even see in story, would be fascinating
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>>135716690
>kyakka.wordpress.com/yahari-light-novel/volume-a/prologue-1/
>kyakka.wordpress.com/yahari-light-novel/volume-a/prologue-2/
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>>135716698

No, that is massive damaging thing a person or older family member can do. Watari actually has gone into very heavy and serious territory with his depiction of Yukino
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>>135716735
nice derogatory, i can only tell Hayama to fuck off
>>135716741
interesting, i am now questioning myself whether i can understand the LN
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>>135716741
No, all this cuddly love is keeping her weak and dependent. Constructive bullying will ignite the flame in her heart.
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>>135715596
>Hiratsuka-sensei, Yui, and Haruno are the ones who lewdly use him for their please.
>Sensei beats him

This level of "intimacy" arouses me.
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>>135716648
Yumiko is precious.
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>>135716924
>to herself
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>>135717008
To everyone.
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>>135685780
this happened with me when I watched onegai twins and teacher.

Those series are blue-balls central.
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>>135716648
>liking the bitch of the class.
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>>135717086
maybe they just put up with her to be close to Hayama. I'm suspecting.....
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>>135717545
>>135717657
she is alpha not just being the approved partner of alpha Hayama
>power lies who believes it
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Why doesn't Yukino just fake being scared all the time to stay close to him?
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>>135717545
She's a cute bitch.
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>>135717839

she'd treat you like garbage though, because NOT HAYAMA
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>>135717897
She only treats other girls like shit, she actually treats 8man nicely when he isn't sticking his nose where it doesn't belong.
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>>135717766
don't worry, she'll get straightened up and be able to do that for genuine reasons. Yui will soon get an eyeful when she's the third one to reach the clubroom, Hachiman and Yukino will be making out. Sensei will see that for the first time and run away crying and go on week long bender
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>>135717944
She treats Hachiman ok now that he found out something about Hayama for her. That's the currency she deals in, Hayama intel. Yukino could really manipulate Yumiko that way if she were lesser girl.
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>>135697335
>best girl is a boy
it's like watching Log Horizon II again kek
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>>135717897
I would be joyed if Yumiko even paid attention to me.
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>>135715481
way too cute
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>>135717897
>mfw we will never see Punished Yumiko, distraught after being rejected by Hayama.
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>>135717714
>Hayama
>Alpha

pick one.
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>>135718135

I think that will happen in the next year, because after first half of year done they just do exam school and not see each other any more. So she'll figure nothing to lose and confess to Hayama, and of course she'll get rejected because Hayama is going to do what his family tells him for relationship/marriage. She'll be devastated but then recover and remember a certain interesting Omega male type and might try to go after him. Oregairu college edition..
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>>135718047
or hacka doll
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She will get her Hayato.
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>>135717766
Stop making my heart hurt. I can only handle so much moe.
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>>135718730
>implying
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>>135718730
Yumiko might consider date rape drugs and take some pictures; that should ruin Hayama for getting married of to rich prestigious families that care about their image. Highest achievement level would be pregnancy to seal the deal
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>>135685780
Nigga all of us faggots can relate to 8man on at least some level
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>>135719118
She wouldn't think of something that sick. She wants her love to be genuinely recieved
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Will they continue to make each other suffer?
Or will someone else make them suffer for once.
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>>135720809

nothing sick about it, righteous payback for Hayama the way he's used her. Not a raw deal for him, gets hot woman who loves him and does anything he wants. no downside. sometimes a wishy-washy cunt needs an assertive bitch to take charge and push him on the right path
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>>135721374
Yukimom will keep them apart.
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The Yukinoshita women need to be lined up against a wall and genuined one by one.
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>>135723068
Of the sluts.
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>>135721818
Nope, Hachiman has ally in Yukinoshita family who ships the YukinoXHachiman. YukiMom is going to be thwarted
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>>135723305
>Yukidad will be the one to save them
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I think S2 is better than S1. Characters felt more believable, all of them.
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>>135723413
possible he also will join Haruno in pulling for HxY, we knows he intervenes to make life bearable in letting Yukino have her own place even though Yuimom still angry about it a year later. A politician might even see something of interest in the 8man
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>>135720190
Could you please make a list of those levels?
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What would you get Yukino for her birthday?
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>>135724153
A personality.
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>>135712857
Why yes, Spongebob, I do feel it
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Best Saki
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>>135723107
Iroha is pure
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>>135725561
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>>135725610
"“He seemed like a nice guy so I wanted to sed..… hold his hand or something." -- Isshiki Iroha

Most likely oregairu girl to be *experienced*
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>>135712776

the rotten eyed dishwasher would get irritated if you weren't civil with her
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>>135723832
>Characters felt more believable, all of them.

That's not saying much, anon.
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>>135724182
She already has the best personality an anime girl could have, kuudere.
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>>135726750

Yukino is fascinated with Hachiman; with watching him and listening to his thoughts. If they're apart during the break between school years she'll realize she has a void in her life
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>>135726938
That already happened to 8man during summer break, seriously most of his time was spent thinking about her.
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I want to do lewd things with Gahamama!
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>>135727055
Wonder what he would have done if he saw her during vacation.

The only one who saw her was Saki but she couldn't approach her.
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8man should try to get to second base with Yui and see if he can steal third.
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>>135729349
any senpai got the full collection of eye catchers?
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>Doujin of Yukino dressed like Pan-san
huh
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>>135729756
Now there needs to be a doujin of both dressed like Pan-san.
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That feel when season 3 isn't out yet.
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Yukino is a slut. I bet she has dark thoughts and purposefully gives him shit drinks.
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>>135730197
Dark thoughts like what?
How she's going to ravage Hikigaya-kun and have him drink MAX COFFEE off her body while he's chained to the radiator?
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>>135729756
translations never.
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who /fishigaya/ here?
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>>135731324
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>>135731324
I still don't get how that scene where the girls are comparing him to a fish doesn't register on him. They have both been wearing neon glowing signs saying they like him but he doesn't seem phased by it or he doesn't even realize it.
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>>135731496
https://d.maxfile.ro/uhebluvpqn.webm
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>>135685780
This is like gintama... without the jokes and laughs. It's delivers the cold hard truths of society and other shit.
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>>135730630
And make Yui watch.
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>>135694842
I R O H A S U
R
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A
S
U
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>>135731855
He's been burned too many times, he doesn't let himself feel hope
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Quick question, if you Hachiman what would you do in the situation? If he picks either girl the group dynamic is fucked.
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>>135733340
become the villain and let them have each other
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>>135733340
I were Hachiman I'd keep stalling for genuine since Yukino would never like me romantically.
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>>135733538
They would smell through any bullshit he gave them like that.

>>135733340
Announce to the club the day after the 3P date that I am not mature enough to consider a relationship with anyone and I don't see either of them that way. No vague bullshit and it won't hurt them or the club.
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>>135733538

You don't get laid or get a relationship....no one wins.

>>135733577

How does that help you in anyway? I thought most anons wanted to get their dick sucked and nothing more.
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>>135733655
Because I personally like Yukino I'd rather have something real with her.

I've been in fake relationships before they're terrible.
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>>135733655
>most anons wanted to get their dick sucked and nothing more.
Sex without feelings is pretty meaningless.
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>>135734667

The average anon doesn't give a fuck. They never get any action anyway and so it doesn't matter how they get it, as long as it is not prostitution they are solid.
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What's with Yukino staring at 8man like this?
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>>135735209
She wants his 8 inch
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>>135723839
8man will make Japan great again as Prime Minister
>>135727055
>>135728208
>>135731916
Did Yui made a move?
>>135731916
Nyaa~~
>>135734667
dude
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>>135706752
yeah, off please.
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>>135734698
Well I dunno, I can always just fap. Would rather want something genuine
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>>135735420
>that filename

muh dick
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>>135718266
Or Gatchaman Crowds
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>8man having an affair with RumiRumi after marrying Yukinon
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>>135737859
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We need more Iroha
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>>135739850
When was this?
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>>135738989
the world needs more Iroha
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>>135685957
so, bukkake orgy ending? not that I'm complaining...
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>>135686708
>2016
>still watching dubs
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>>135723107
Why do all yahari girls suddenly advanced to top 10 in annual enjou kousai ranking?
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>>135741551
Yui ranked 2 on it since 2013 until Iroha appeared.
The one I can't make any sense of placing there is Yukino.
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>>135741551
>>135741674
it is like popular rating
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>>135741674
Yui was there because it's Nao Touyama
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>>135733340
Yui, obviously. Having two antisocial and melancholic people in a relationship is one too many; he needs someone with cheer and energy to propel him forward.
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>>135743570
Forward into the hell that is a slave-waged salaryman, what a nice future.
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>>135743613
Welcome to 21st century Japan. You say it like there are alternatives.

Besides, it's not like Yukino will allow him his dream of becoming in indolent houseman. She hates laziness, most of all in those around her.
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>>135737859
>>135737911
Thank you anon. I shall await the day Rumi steals the 8incher right from under Yukino's nose
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>>135743697
She'll force him to start doing something like write a book or novel or make him pursue something he would actually like to do other than be a husband.
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>>135743787
>gigolo
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>>135743697
All 8man has to do all day is wear the Pan-san costume.
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>>135745493
>Kamakura
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>>135743787
definitely the writer route, she's done that to him already twice in the LN. He works very, very hard and meets the deadline. Funny when he's in despair and has writer's block Yukino gives him max coffee and starts talking about letting deadline slip and project to not go well, which fires him up and he delivers. She respects that about him and even talks about it, that when there is job to do he goes at it 100 percent, and he replies yes but he'll bitch the whole time. Also in sports festival arc she has Hachiman sit next to her and says some people are extremely competent (he thinks about Hayama and such missing the hint)
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So does the anime skip anything important from vol11?
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>>135743570
Neither Yukino nor Hachiman can be called antisocial any more, they have friends and acquaintances. The Service Club helped them both in that regard
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>>135746788
anime is only 30 percent of the story, get on the LN train niggah, it's a fantastic party
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>>135746817
I specifically asked about vol11,I have read the rest. I stopped reading when Spyro quit.
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>>135741674
News for you, Yukino is quite popular in surveys in Japan and worldwide. near top or #1 on many
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>>135746899
so read FatFluffyFish's translation of the rest, muh niggah. last episode really was 30 percent of vol 11
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>>135746910
He's talking about the category she's in, I think it was slutty heroines or something
>>135746955
I see, thanks.
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>>135747103
yes I saw a "skankiness" survey from Japan; Yukino doesn't even belong in one however Yui does things like putting her breasts on Hachiman, and Haruno pokes him with her nipples. sluts
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>>135740885
I'd agree in real life she'd be the best personality for a girlfriend for most, fun and quirky and like a real boss/manager/administrator when she works (delegation and all, poor Hachiman) She can cook too, bonus! Not my favorite novel in anime universe but would be great in this one 8D
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>became what it tried to parody
This and Saekano are the worst offenders
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>>135733340
I'd pick Orimoto
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>>135733340
He just has to pick Irohassu
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>>135748727
but she's never confessed to him and still pursues Hayama. If she gave up on The Cunt then she would probably move on Hachiman in a way he couldn't rationalize away, she's not shy and indirect like some of the other 8man girls. Probably jump in his lap, stick her tongue down his throat and declare love
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>>135748216
Ironic parodies invariably fall victim to this because the writer thinks being a parody is all it takes, then quickly realizes he doesn't actually have a story and is forced to ape generic conventions to move the plot along. And then too late he realizes that just because he's doing it "ironically" doesn't change the fact that he's made yet another bland harem with the same plot structure and same character types.
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>>135748961
I'd still pick Iroha or Saki.
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>>135748507
but why
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>>135749101
Saki is best wife material; mature, serious, tender hearted, love family, cooks but plain things, works hard, sews
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>>135748507
What is she saying?
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>>135740885
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>>135751610
probably making fun of him for jumping during explosion in movie. Hachiman is clown to her
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>>135749101
could you really take more than four "SORE ARU" in a day without resorting to spouse abuse?

if so you're a bigger man than me
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100% True.
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Do Hachiman loves girls but he just holds his feelings or he doesn't give a shit at all ?
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>>135752788
Hachiman loves boys, he is a faggot
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>>135752788
Yes girls get him hot and bothered and he keeps telling himself not to fall into their trap; that's why the LN so great get to see all the internal monologue
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>>135752788
He's gay.
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>>135752788
He's been burned many times before so he's wary of any affection women show him aside from his sister.
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>>135685780

That's what's popular now
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>>135686675

The last arc of the first season and the first arc of the second are the only really decent parts of it. The first season had too much zany comedy to start and the second too much muttering and cryptic teenager problems to finish. The cast seemed especially bored out of its skull in the second season, personally I don't think they were given very good if any ADR other than sound as disinterested and monotone in your reading as possible like that Monogatari show.
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>>135686760

You're not alone, a lot of stuff is needless cryptic in that show. I think it had something to do with him being phony about his lonerism but in what specific way and why that would piss people of I'm not 100% sure. LN characters are fucking hard as hell to relate to on average though.
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>>135687061

What was the point of this character again besides being cryptically antagonistic for seemingly no reason?
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>>135753623
The sluts are all over him now. He was a thirsty dweeb in middle school, in high school he doesn't give a fuck. Does desperation turn girls off that much or is it his newer personality trait that scores him more woman?
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>>135754584
Well, we need someone to create CONFLICT but we need to make her PROFOUND
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>>135754709
I can imagine 8shota making Yui blush and Yukino getting jealous.

Glorious
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>>135754709
I want 8son to promise Yui that if she can't get married by the time he becomes an adult, he'll marry her!
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>>135754592
imo, Yui fell in love with him because she was trying to prove that love is a real thing, (unlike 8man's opinion) and she discovered that Hiki was in reality a 'good' person. For Yukino's case it's just that she's kinda similar to Hachiman and he's the only person to understand her.
But you know it's an anime. In real life, he would have no chances because of his awful look.
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>>135713716
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>>135713831
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>>135718047
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>>135733290
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>>135755307
that skinship really frosts Yukinio
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>>135733340
I would have gradually stopped going to the club and ignore them both while avoiding teacher bitch. Study as usual and graduate then goto college. Win all round without having to deal with melodramatic psycho bitches
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>>135749101
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>>135752788
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>>135753623
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>>135756726
>Yanderes will track u
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>>135755023
Idk. He seems like the type to be stealth popular.
Helpful but reserved and pretty good at doing various things.
No one would have anything bad to say about himand then suddenly various girls would be after him, provided he didn't talk and reveal his true nature.

He's also feels like the type of guy women would try to steal from another woman just to prove that they could.
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>>135757767
Not an expert, but I'm guessing it has something to do with Japanese social dynamics (which also exist in the west I suppose): it's not so much that he's unpopular, as that he has a reputation or taint of being unpopular. So unless your social capital is really high, you risk losing capital by associating with him.

Like at some point the social roles became baked in, and he cannot shake that branding, even if in retrospect a lot of people realize he's kinda cool, I guess.
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>>135757767
>woman just to prove that they could.
anon u got story to tell?
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>>135756726

Hiratsuka-sensei would *FIND YOU*. Hiratsuka-sensei would *BEAT YOU* In her school you don't do things the right way, or the wrong way, you do it her way. ARE WE CLEAR, MAGGOT
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>>135755023
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>>135754857
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>>135758661
Hachiman has good looks but dead-soul eyes that have seen the darkness (not really small pupils as drawn, that's symbolic).

When girls get to high school it happens some girls LOOVE the bad-ass. That's the appeal he has
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>>135756726
>avoiding the best cake
You are a genuinely bad person.
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>>135758757

that's just during his time when fellowship with Yukino strained; check him out when things are back together, fucking smiling when she's next to him at times.
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Why the gap? Rumi is the cutest one there by far.
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>>135758577
She likes to beat him in public, lots of witnesses, call police make formal complaint to school, parents sue bitch, the school and the education department, get her imprisoned, she loses job, while 8man recovering laughs as the millions keep coming in. Win
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>>135759172
anon u ok?
>fashionable grade school
>>135759185
>lawful evil
>>
Need more Venom Hachiman
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>>135759185
You forget:
1. He likes it ("the only one allowed to hit me is sensei")

2. She never beat him in public, only in school or car
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>>135758859
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>>135759490
in context before that. She told him she could tell he was doing things out of worry for them (Yukino and Yui). She said he didn't have to worry about them, it would be okay to take a break from the club to do the two things, Komachi exam study help and helping Iroha.
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>>135758859
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>>135759185
Autism speaks.
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>>135759172
Gap moe.
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>>135760095
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so are we getting any hayato and yukina ntr doujins soon? maybe haruno ntring doujins, I had high expectations for this series to satisfy muh dick.
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>>135760355
I want Rumi to have ramen with 8man-sensei
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>>135759490
Yukino is the only one who could break him.
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>>135759917
well that picture isn't with Yukino that's with a YIT (Yukino in Training)
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>>135761633
what the fuck is happening here?
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>>135761659
I believe that is what is known as a "bump"
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>>135761356
Why does she hurt him this way?
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>>135762421
you might not have noticed, but she is kind of a cunt.
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>>135762459
Why does he keep going back to her, I'd treat him a lot better.
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>>135762618
Go away Yui.
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>>135761356
WAIT
DID HAYAMA TALK TO YUKINO OR WHAT?
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>>135685780
>expecting compelling stuff from a haremshit series for self-insert autists

kill yourself OP
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>>135763586
Nah, either 8man said something similar to that before or it's just showing that Yukino thinks like 8man.
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>>135763658
>love triangle
>harem
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>>135743728
Well there's a fanfic idea
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>>135764402
Yeah it is

You write it
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>>135756408
>Yukito
So aside from forcing Yukino's son to dye his hair blonde he's also making him grow up as a girl.
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So which YY would accept an honest, genuine confession from 8man? Yui seems like a maybe and Yukino is probably a "no" but yes.
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>>135711658
Your goddamn right
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