New project hype!
Homura did nothing wrong in Rebellion. She did it out of love. But what do you will happen in the new project?
It was never her decision. Madoka's wish had to be balanced out. But her wish was to destroy all witches, so her own witch, her own despair could't be the counterbalance. So Homura had to become something more than a witch in order to provide the balance
It's a futile hope, but I hope we get some genuine happiness in the movie. The opening scenes of Rebellion melted my heart, they were just having regular, non fucked up deconstruction magical girl adventures and were all happy, and you just knew it couldn't last. I hope that they expand on the injured Kyubey that appears at the end of rebellion. i want the Incubators to be the ones that have to bear all the suffering so the girls can be happy at last. I know it'll never happen, but it's what i want.
>She did it out of love
Hitler also did everything out of love for the aryan germanic peoples.
Which is why her soul gem brought enough hope to birth a new universe, which became despair and her witch and was then destroyed by her deity forme. Which does not even exist in that reality given how wherever she is, is outside of time so that she gets to save every magical girl at their time of need, everytime and everywhere.
Stop fucking with the series's perfect ending to justify the stupid cashgrab movie.
>>fucking with the series's perfect ending
People here hate Rebellion? Weird. i only really found about madoka magica last week and watched the series and the movie back to back and I thought that Rebellion was a very natural continuation. That is, until the last 20 minutes. I suppose my opinion could have been very different if I had been hyped for it since 2011.
>I thought that Rebellion was a very natural continuation. That is, until the last 20 minutes
I imagine that you just spoke of is what happens be the source of the general disagreement and divisiveness.
I guess so, though I read somewhere that people were salty about Sayaka and Nagisa getting witch form and not being insane. Personally I thought it made sense in the context of the movie.
Nah. Kyousuke dying would be better, but still shouldn't happen.
You know that will never happen, right Anon?
If the project is written by Uro then most likely would be a movie. Otherwise it's a tv series. It will be all about Mami since every other character reached the end of the their character development.
How mami can become powerful enough or the consequences of Homura's action are hard to tell.
Last 20 minutes were indeed 'wrong', but I fucking loved the movie for it.
I think they make the movie more interesting. If it had ended with Madoka reaping Homura, it would have been more beautiful, more elegant. The ending felt forced, not natural at all, but it's kind of the point if you think about it. The criticism is that the original ending was perfect, even if there was adness in it, the movie is a cash grab and we should let go. This paralells Madok's desire to go back to being the law of cycles being the natural and good status of things, and Homura not wanting to let go, wanting to force an idealized version of what her high school life should have been, forever.
Now that i think about it, the next movie should have a potential future self of Homura appear to try to convince her that being in high school for eternity is a fucking stupid idea.
>Rebellion cash grab
>Making them irreconciliable enemies and cutting off the yuri bux
Madoka forgiving Homura and spending eternity with her as gods is the obvious ending. It's forcasted in the credits of Rebellion. Remember, Urobuchi likes to bully Sayaka, not Madoka or Homura.
I am completely drawing a blank on what'll happen in between. Sayaka gets Madoka's memories back, we get an all out battle between 14/15 magical girls and the Clara dolls. Madoka confronts the devil. Mami gets super powers on top of her super powers. Who knows.
The hell are you even talking about? The finale of the TV series was just exactly that. Madoka overcoming the despair of her witchification. The entire point was why Madoka became a paradox and transcended into becoming the LoC. She wasn't in despair whatsoever.
More Mami and Kyouko screen time this time around plz
She's the most developed character.
She was a naive optimist who made a wish to help her dad.
Her parents were killed due to her wish.
She became cynical.
She was reminded why she made her wish when she fought Sayaka.
She trying to form a bond with Sayaka before she became a witch.
She returned to the side of good and sacrificed herself to put Sayaka out of her misery.
Rebellion let them cement that bond.
Her arc is done.
I'd be annoyed by the shipping if it wasn't a plot point, but MadoHomu is pretty much the basis for the series. At least from Homura's end. Then again, what better way to end it then to kill off whatever affection they had for each other?
Who is !Akmei? Anyway I still wonder why !Akemi thought anyone were friends with him. He was annoying as shit.
Yeah but that shipping thing is so ingrained among viewers that getting rid of one probably means replacing it with another. So... HomuSaya? Lewd.
I support Sayaka/Madoka simply because it confirms Yuri, but not the one the shippers want. It destroys two popular ships at once in addition to giving the win to the childhood friend. It's the proverbial fuck you to Madoka shippers everywhere. It also makes the most sense which is a win in my book.
Your quaddubs could have been used for a better post.
Urobuchi is no Hideaki Anno. He doesn't show that much contempt for his fans.
>Sayaka gets Madoka's memories back
She can't even get those of her own back if her being chained up in Homura's weird living room is telling us anything
Following the events of that first concept movie that was leaked what happens is a huge Mami head breaking in while Homura is busy talking with Madoka over her ballet. Though granted it's only a concept movie so it may not turn out like that, and hopefully there will be something about how and why is Mami the one to first manage the breakthrough and serve as the head of the pack when rebelling against Homura
I don't get it. I said I hate shippers enough to want the least favorite pairing to win, although granted, it makes the most sense since the two had the least emotional baggage with each other and had the most normal of all relationship. No idea why you're comparing me to the Mami/Kyoko shipper.
I saw the concept movie. Like you said, I just don't think we can gleam too much from it. I took the Sayaka chained up thing to be symbolic and not actually happening IRL. We see plenty of that in the series.
I'm hoping they don't wuss out. Homura said love and used the Japanese word for erotic/lustful/romantic love. Madoka needs to accept it or reject it. They can't skirt around that issue.
How exactly is it crack shipping? Sayaka and Madoka known each other the longest, had the most normal of relationship, knew each other the most, support each other, and caused each other the most distress when they had unknowingly hurt each other. Fuck, it was the most rational of ships. And ffs anon, /a/ is not one person, you're being extremely paranoid in your samefag accusations there.
>Sayaka despairs over dick the whole series
>Sayaka shows up for Rebellion explicitly because she regretted never mixing red and blue
>Spends Rebellion living together with Kyoko
Yeah, MadoSaya confirmed, amirite?
I don't see how any of that had refuted any of my points about the two. You make it sound like the shiptease between two characters invalid all the other relationship a character can have with someone else.
No ACK, you're gravely mistaken regarding the meaning of my post and are, once again, using mental gymnastics to take only what advantages you while ignoring the other part. I'm one of the many people that you regularly baselessly call out to be your boogeyman !Akemi just because I call you out on your behavior that is akin to Nagato's during the Endless Eight. I'm tired of BOTH sides. Crackshipping was a thing that wasn't offensive from the get-go because it was a thing that people posted as a sign of genuine feeling for what they enjoyed. Now, due to your autism of reacting the EXACT SAME WAY in EVERY FUCKING THREAD while not seeing that it's actually THE REASON PEOPLE POST THOSE PICTURES that cause you to tantrum around that a prude Catholic being shown images of girls in bikini, it has become nothing but a meme, a "call to the ACK", because you are set like an alarm clock, you do the same thing, and people enjoy seeing you waste so much time posting your weightless arguments that will in the end change nothing. I'm just tired of both sides, mainly because of your shit, but I know that every time a crack picture (or even a comfy pic about two girls being a little to close to each other like >>135666769), you are sure to appear and shit up the thread with your posts that are meaningless. So now, I hate you all, both the crackshippers and you, and I want you off the Madoka threads forever. I want you to get fucking shot in the back of the head for ruining these threads like autists blindly flinging shit at each other while not noticing that each side has a titanium bunker.
This is really maddening. I don't know how you guys can spend so much time posting here. Don't you have a social life? Every time I see one these threads, you are both here and you shitpost for hours and hours. How is it to spend the whole day and night in your house? Do your parents know your hikikomori ways? And I'm not just speaking to the "righteous side", crackshippers.
I haven't posted in a Madoka thread yesterday, but do continue in your /a/ is one person meantaliy. Just makes people know who's the rational person in this thread. Because as you have said, while relationship between the two doesn't have to be romantic, it also doesn't mean it's not plausible either. Everyone likes to claim they have a sisterly relationship with each other yet hypocritically the same can be said for any other ship. This is one of the reasons why I loathe shippers. Everything else but their ship is only platonic while their own ship is 'tru luv'.
And neither does any other shiptease. Everything else can also be interpreted as platonic between the other characters, but somehow, someway, two people that knew each the longest and had shown to deeply care about each other is less credible of a ship than someone they had met for less than a month. How is this any different than when people wonder why childhood friends never win?
She rewrote the rules once because she thought they were unfair. If she returns Homo's feelings, there no reason to believe they wouldnt break the rules again. It's not like they havent rewritte the universe twice already.
All you're doing is, again, reading what you want to read, understanding what you want to understand, call out on being a crackshipper because we said something against you, ignoring the most important parts because it suits you, and use the argumentum ad populum while calling other people out when they use it.
I've been expecting no less from you because I know you by heart. You always say the same shit, at the same moments, to retort to the same arguments. You are a meme. And people don't take memes seriously.
Again, I have not posted in a Madoka thread yesterday, that anon is also posting in this thread. You can see the clear difference in posting style between us. Seriously, you are bordering on delusional paranoia here.
And interpretation is opinion. No matter how much you want to say otherwise, there is no asbolute truth over this. As long as it is supported by some evidence, anything can be an interpretation, never mind the fact that the two does have a longer history with each other and has shown some tease between them. But somehow, some way, it is a crack ship. Again, how is this any different from all those childhood friend never wins complaints?
I'm afraid no, because I believe now that there are at least 5 people ruining these threads. 2 autists sperging about "MUH CANON ONLY" and 3 idiots that do nothing but trigger the aforementioned autists endlessly because they love to spite them and cause unwarranted flooding.
No ACK no. I'm tired of arguing with you. I've destoyed a lot of your arguments (not all tho, because you are right on many aspects, even I have come to realize it) in countless threads for the 2.5 years of your life you've spent rambling about "CANON OR NOTHING" on the basis that it "shits up threads" while never explaining exactly why it did so. I'm just tired. As I said above, debate or arguing with you is meaningless and I won't repeat myself. Just re-read my post while trying to get this Akemi boogeyman out of your head (if you can because you speak so much about him that you must be dreaming of him every night now). You'll see which points you've obviously and blatantly overlooked. Oh wait, that's useless because you're not going to acknowledge you've ignored anything, right?
You only read what you want to read and anybody who doesn't unconditionally agree with you is automatically dismissed by calling out to your boogeyman.
Anon, seriously, you need to calm down. Because when you resort to pulling up definitions of words, you've gone into full retard territory nervmind the fact that you cherry picked one definition of the word over the others.
Secondly, again, seriously, calm down. /a/ is not one person. Multiple people are allowed to have the same opinions here.
Third, whether or not she wants to win the Madoka bowl is ultimately irrelevant. After all, Madoka has been shown to treat Homura as a friend, but that sure as hell didn't stop Mado/Homu shippers. Not to mention in the first episode, we have seen Sayaka jokingly said she wants to take Madoka as a bride or how the biggest regret Sayaka had post-wish wasn't being a zombie unable to be with Kyosuke, but making Madoka cry. You can claim it's platonic, but under the same reasoning, 99% of everything shown in the interaction between all the characters can be interpreted as such as well.
I hope you know what you're doing.
Please, don't fall to despair after realizing futility of your struggle and don't turn into a witch.
You can't defeat a holy warrior with words alone.
And ACK, is this pic crack too?
>Implying Madoka cares if Homura's an evil bitch
>Implying Madoka is autistic as Sayaka about right and wrong
>Implying Homura doesnt remind Madoka of her mom
>Implying Madoka doesnt like the bad girl type
Reminder Madoka saw all the times Homura killed Sayaka.
Reminder Madoka saw all the bad things Homura ever did.
Reminder Madoka knows how much of a degenerate pervert Homura is.
Reminder Madoka thanked her for all this in E12.
Reminder Madoka will throw herself on Homura the second she gets her memories back.
Fuck off HomuHater.
Wow. I had already explained why using the dictionary definition of the word is wrong since you had used one definition of the word over the others. I mean, going from this screenshot, you can see the other definitions of the word agrees with my interpretation = opinion stance.
And I love how you say Madoka treating Homura differently means it's love between them but somehow the interactions between Sayaka and Madoka is not. Sayaka was the only person to fight off the initial brainwashing and use her witch form for Madoka's sake but that's platonic, right? Or how Sayaka was the only one shown to have a final heart to heart talk with Madoka and was the only one shown to might have gotten her wish undone in the new universe in the TV finale? Because all of those special treatments are completely platonic while Madoka and Homura are not?
No, I said trying to use a single definition of a word with multiple meanings is completely retarded because that's the same shit I was saying what multiple interpretation of a scene is. There are more than one way to interpret a scene just as there is multiple meanings to a word. Trying to use a single definition over the others to prove you're right is stupid especially when that anon is saying there can be only one interpretation.
Anon, shut up. Do not lump me in with the likes of you. I do not support the ship because I believe the two are meant for each other, I support it on principle, that somehow the childhood friend with a long history together and have deep bonds with one another is somehow the crack ship to everything else.
You also need to remember Sayaka is a knight. She is Madoka's knight. She has sworn to protect her for the LOC. Her and Nagisa had to protect her no matter what from Kyubey and the incubators.
Right. And somehow that is meant to be platonic as compared to everything else? Which is the stupidity I was pointing out. Somehow Sayaka/Madoka scenes must be platonic in nature while everything else is romantic. Complete and utter hypocrisy.
Um, actually it is platonic/symbolic. Knighthood is not suppose to be romantic. Madoka is the queen to Sayaka's Knight. It is Sayaka's duty to protect Madoka and the LOC. Like it is a knight's duty to protect his queen and kingdom.
What Madoka has with Homura is more soul bound than that with Sayaka. It was as if Madoka and Homura were fated to meet.
So, it's knight/queen and not knight/princess as their interaction as children as shown? Really?
Bullshit, he said there was only one interpretation and it's supposedly based on facts. And he pulled up a single definition out of multiples to support that claim despite the other definitions saying otherwise. That is going full retard no matter how you spin it.
Look at the example in the second definition. That is so not the only one interpretation bullshit the other anon was trying to pull here.
I'm saying it's bullshit to say all the Sayaka/Madoka interaction is completely platonic while everyone else's are not. Are you not seeing the utter hypocrisy here? That somehow your ship is the only one that has romantic implications but anyone else's are not? Why? Not because the anime had outright said it, but because that's what you think it meant. Your interpretation of the scenes aka your fucking opinion.
>And yes, there is an absolute truth truth to this. Because a story is not an unlimited source of data. It has an end. That means the number of answers you can draw from in are finite.
Gee, it almost as if the anon is saying there is only a certain way to interpreted a scene and not multiple ways of viewing it.
Anon, considering the stance I have been taking since I've started posted in this thread is essentially 'Sayaka/Madoka is not a crack ship but actually a credible one', and that my argument boils down to 'How is it that their interaction is considered to be plantonic while everyone else's are not?' It's actually the other way around. Everyone else keeps insisting that the interaction between the two is completely platonic, with no room for interpretation. I'm actually the one telling the others to keep an open mind, just as they had done for all of the other ships. Somehow applying the same standard used for all of the others ships to this one is considered to be an excuse? What the hell?
Also, considering I have only posted a single image and it is of the definition of a word, you can tell the image spammer is a troll and not me. Again, /a/ is not a single person, anon.
i want to watch their love develop
>They're continuing with their bullshit even when the first endings was good
Why is anti-crack-kun so fucking persistent?
Anyway have a sexdoka.
Anon. Seriously, stop being paranoid. Look over at the single image I had posted compared to everything else. The image naming scheme is different. Secondly, how exactly is pointing out the hypocrisy of how shippers saying the interaction between their ships is completely romantic and yet anyone else's are not, is wrong? You keep trying to deflect my argument with ad-hominens and trying the damnest to say I'm some notorious shitposter and then go and prove my argument for me by interpreting the Sayaka/Madoka scene as 100% plantonic. It's not as if you can't say the same for any other ships now? You're not a sith, try and not to deal in absolutes here. Because clearly, every other non-Sayaka/Madoka scene had the characters had outright declare their undying love for each other and definitely prove every interaction they had is completely romantic in nature and not merely personal opinions of you think it meant, right?
Posting sexdoka to shut up the persistent nigger.
!akemi's drunk post was uncalled for, but your niggerish behaviour remains niggerish.
Persistent and repetititive.
The other anon is spamming images. You make it sound like I have any control over what other anons does here. I'm not sure how many times I can repeat this. /a/ is not a single person. Considering the only ship I've said i'm supporting here is Sayaka/Madoka and that's only because on principle and not because I actually ship them, me posting images of other ships would be detrimental to my arguments. Why the hell would I want to do that?
I'm not even !akemi and I find your fucking subhuman behaviour deserving of being sent into a fucking gulag.
You are !Akemi, end of story.
Have you even checked the posters counter on the bottom right? I'm not !akemi, because when I posted sexdoka. the counter jumped up by one.
Dirty, annoying kike you are.
Oh wow. That is some paranoia you've got going on there. Granted, this is /a/ and clearly a thread made for shitposting, so you're probably just trolling to garner more attention. Because otherwise, I have to believe someone is this delusional, and that's just sad.
You realize I did, right?
Never mind the fact that you are implying that I somehow have the magical ability to make people do what I want them to by posting on an anonymous imageboard. Seriously, are you even reading the posts you are making here?
anti-crack kun, please, unless !akemi is posting from multiple devices, there is no way we can know for sure that I'm !akemi or not, so it's irrelevant.
Calm down and have sexdoka.
A haiku for you
Don't sexualize My dear waifu Madoka Or I will kill you
They're just cute together, romantic or not. Don't you think?
This is why I browse PMMM threads on /c/ and not /a/
Yeah you got me, who told you? The voice in your head?
Witches are Stands now.
Sayaka is a lesbian who is in love with Kyouko. They KISS.
Madoka is a lesbian who is in love with Homura. They RECONCILE.
It's super dark too and has a lot of trippy imagery, just like I loved in Rebellion.
I'm a KyouSaya fag, but I like MadoSaya, too.
Betsubara mother fucker.
I want to see them
fight all-out, with Sakaya's speed and tricks she can come up with versus Homura's reaction time and arsenal, then coming to an agreement for Madoka's sake as much as their own, and eating a cake with everyone else.
For a moment I thought you were just describing Rebellion. Scratch that, all that is reasonable non-exaggerated depiction of it save for the super dark bit, as it was only about medium dark level.