>>135652178 >>135652527 In what way did Punpun give you an "existential crisis"? it's just the very annoying self-pitying story of a teenager who thinks the whole world is somehow against him, or revolves around him. Grow up.
>>135652897 >It's like Catcher in the Rye How does this book bother anyone on a philosophical level? Life sucks, people die, people suck, you'll die, you suck, I suck, waah waah, I don't want to die, I don't want to try, but living's such a drag. So what? Yeah, it makes you feel shitty for a bit, or if you weren't/aren't a piece of human trash like the protagonist and the kind of people drawn to the book, it makes you feel a bit of pity, but other than that it shouldn't really fuck with you. It's just another story about adolescent angst.
>>135653320 I don't know about philosophical, but enough people identified with its protagonist for it to be considered a classic. There's no "should" or "shouldn't" about it; that's just how people are.
>>135653426 Of course. Even I identified with the protagonist when I read it back in high school, and I still do to an extent today, but there is no existential crisis, or any other psychological anxiety that can be derived from the book. It's just a fairly well-written coming-of-age story with no real conclusion.
>>135653535 It's annoying for meta reasons. People carry its themes with them into adulthood or, for example, into thai flipbook conversations on the internet, long after they should have grown past them.
>>135652897 Catcher in the Rye is one of the most overrated books in recent history, and by no small margin one of the most damaging to literature. A child complains about problems that are minute even by the standards of a mindset that espouses the transience of life.
You can hear such thousands of times a day if you so desire. The concepts/ideas/philosophies that Holden Caulfield opposes are actually the protagonist of that novel. He's the antagonist. He's a loser, and he loses.
It's a poorly written book (in terms of prose, themes, etc) detailing the narrative of the idea of an angsty loser child (whom the reader knows is a loser immediately) losing. How does that provide *anything* to the literary world? Schopenhauer made a point about this and I don't have the quote on hand, but it approximates to this: "There's not enough time to read everything in the world. Why should I read something bad in order to absolutely know that it is bad? Rather, I should read what is good and valuable and ignore that which is not good."
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