>>135592907 No, it's almost always the case with manga that come after the animated series. On top of that the only problem you usually have with anime based on manga is if the art is adapted badly and it doesn't have a proper budget to make good animated scenes. If it's done well though, then it will automatically surpass the original. Just take any madhouse or bones adaptation.
>>135592907 Not really sure why you think that because the Evangelion manga was not inferior in the slightest. It covered the exact same stuff but added more developed characters because it had time to do that.
Ryoji's backstory + seeing what 2nd impact did to the world outside of the neo-tokyo utopia is some of the best shit in the franchise
Did you read it or are you just riding the circlejerk leftover from 2 days ago?
>>135594062 It lacked as creative shot composition, the narrative was more plain instead of as puzzle-like, the characters are explore in a more simpler manner through plain dialogue, it lacks the great animated sequences of Yoshinari and Iso. The fights aren't really framed that well.
The whole ending is different, not as impactful and written a lot worse.
Sadamoto should stick to character designs. That's what he's good at.
>>135594175 So 1 disconnection of logic ruins the entire manga? It could've been pressure from Gainax for all you know. I mean this was just around the time when 3.0 hype was big. But yeah, Asuka surviving was dumb. I could spout 100 different reasons why manga Shinji is fucking stupid and angst-filled enough to start 3rd impact despite that (Misato, Kaworu relationship being more meaningful) but it probably wouldn't convince anyone.
Just pretend Asuka died and enjoy the ride. Sakamoto's 3rd impact was far more believable then the original. Instead of that bullshit "people can leave the LCL ocean whenever they want and walk around Red Earth" He made it so that it's a cycle of death and rebirth. People "leaving" the LCL ocean just means for their souls to be reborn at a predetermined time during the planet's life cycle's latest iteration. After millions of years of evolution and climate change ect ect those souls saved by 3rd impact will live again and hopefully, this time they'll have their happy endings.
>>135594427 >It lacked as creative shot composition It's a manga >narrative was more plain instead of as puzzle-like because it's a manga >it lacks the great animated sequences of Yoshinari and Iso it's a manga
all that EoE stuff stemmed from cimena techniques, all the insightful monologues also stem from that in large part. Comparing a book to a movie like that is ridiculous.
Set your media player to grayscale and the frame rate to 1fps and watch End of Evangelion. Tell me about how it's the greatest manga ever made.
>>135594764 >It's a manga What? In fact that should allow you to do more of what you want, since you can focus basically purely on that, not having to put effort into animation, voice-acting, setting the shots to accompany music.
I mean look at the works of some of the best comic book creators like Moebius, Mignola, Tony Sandoval or if you want manga: Nihei, Inio or Go Nagai. All of them were able to utilize shot composition in magnificent ways, often surpasing any efforts to do this in animation.
As for the story, what does it being a manga have to do with this? You've got stories with puzzle exposition in film, books, games and yes even comic books. Just chek out the works of Sam Kieth, Kei Kurono or again Nihei
As for the animation, well obviously but I think that might sort of imply that Evangelion was just made to be an anime. But still you do have comic books with well sequenced action scenes: Takayuki, Murata, Hayashida, Miller, Morrison or Schrab.
I don't know if a more skilled comic book writer/artist could do a better job. It's possible that the idea just worked better as animation. Just as I can't imagine the works of Nihei, Inio, Hayashida or most of the western creators I mentioned being adapted.
The anime utilized its inherent tools to a great extent and created something magnificent. The manga stripped away a lot of that, but also lots of the narrative tools which didn't have to be and didn't offer anything as a manga that only a sequential art can.
One is a good comic book the other is an animated masterpiece.
The manga ends has no teeth, because "its a cycle that goes on and on forever" is only slightly lamer an ending that "it was all just a dream". It removes any sense of meaning or consequence to the events that have taken place up until now.
The shows ending of everything getting fucked but Shinji managing to do just enough damage control that maybe the world can come back from it carries a lot more weight.
>>135592907 Not really. Both manga and anime have their strong points that make them par with each other and worth seeing separately. Personally I like the manga better.
Most importantly the manga did a better job at developing and/or exploring many characters (Kaworu, Rei, Ryoji), as well as provided more insights on few things like Shinji's or Gedo's motivation or origin of the angels. Also rehearsed sevaral things so they made more sense (mainly the Instrumentality resolution and aftermath). And of course unlike the movie it doesn't feature unecessary shock values, like "I'm so fucked up" scene.
Anime of course also has it's strong poonts, so far explained best by this anon >>135595483 - although I don't know about "puzzle exposition". A narrative, though puzzled, still presents the same plot, so basically it's just a cheat to make the show look deeper. Such thing will amaze one half of the audience, but only confuse the other, so ultimately it's just a matter of taste.
>>135594062 >It covered the exact same stuff but added more developed characters because it had time to do that. If anything it had less time for development given how many corners were cut, with several angel fights left out most notably Leliel. It has been a long time but I can swear how quick the Touji/Eva-03 plot comes up.
The aforementioned plot together with some others had stuff added, true, but overall there was less content than in the anime.
>>135600850 However the content added in the manga seemed to have more meaning than the content removed. After finishing manga I felt this was way more consistent, satisfying and "complete" than the tv show. When I look at the anime now, some epsides just feel like fillers.
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