SO CLEAN AND PURE

>>135574673
Yet so obviously boring in bed.

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>killing a good person
>pure

>>135574819
Shut up unpure ganja smoker

>>135574819
TEN TIMES
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>>135574819
I always have to think of SHIKI when I see him

>>135574673
This series is a cluster fuck to watch.

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>>135574673
WORST Shiki.
Can't match the Tohno Gland.

FACT-

knk is incredibly boring.

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>>135574955
Are you particularly slow?

>>135574985
No but the out of order shit is annoying for starters.

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>>135574819

She deserved it and you know it.

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>Not poting the webm

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>>135574955
It takes getting used to watching a show that goes back and forth with the timeline, hang in there anon

>>135575063
THE CLEANEST
PUREST
>0238
Jesus Christ.

>>135575048
There's literally nothing wrong with cannibalism if it's true to your origin
Also
>she

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>>135575140
>Not having a shiki folder

>>135575107
I've already finished it since it was a promise to a friend since this is his favorite anime. Its still a clusterfuck no matter how much he explains stuff to me. But I enjoyed it for what it was, wouldn't recommend Movie 1 to anyone though since it sets up almost nothing.

>>135575063
>those dead eyes

Why do people like this style again?

>>135575203
I just got into it, I have much more of other series though.

>>135575270
But it does tell you a lot about Shiki's character and her relationship with Mikiya, which arguably is what the story is all about.

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>>135575271
I love it. I need it in my mouth.

>>135575328
It tell you very little about her character overall and Mikiya is just not even in Movie 1 until like the very end. Anyways, what i meant by it doesn't set much up is basically the plot, the setting, and most of all what is the characters goals. I get it was the first movie out of seven, but I was hoping not to wait until movie 4 for some basic story elements to finally be explained.

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>>135574819
Lio did nothing wrong.

>>135575271
Well she is supposed to have dull uninterested eyes so it fits Shiki at least.

>>135575435
Movie 1 actually gets better on a rewatch since you basically realize how Shiki was on full dere mode for the entire film worrying over Mikiya's well-being (something that you only see glimpses of in other films). It also sets up the tone and paranormal investigative premise of the series like a random episode from a TV show that you just happen to pick up.

>>135575271
Well her appearance is literally likened to dolls (with her name being based on "shikigami") and she's often associated with the emptiness of death itself, so yeah.

>>135575536
>It also sets up the tone and paranormal investigative premise of the series like a random episode from a TV show that you just happen to pick up.
To be fair, all the movies do that. So like you said, its more of a movie to go back on after you've watched the series, but if I had to recommend anything to a newcomer is to straight watch Movie 2 and 4 together so you can figure the 5 W's and H right off the bat.
Who, What, Where, When, Why, and How.
Then you can start with either Movie 3 or Movie 1.

>>135575647
The only problem with starting with Movie 2 is that it goes for a very different narrative that's more centralized on the characters than as opposed to actually focusing on the starting premise. The first movie isn't perfect by any means but it purposely introduces the supernatural elements front and center while setting up the general tone of the later stories. That's why Movie 2 quickly follows this up with the actual backstories of the 2 main characters, since it makes up for the purposeful compromise of Movie 1 which focused more on the ponderous/philosophical side of the series.

With Movie 1, you get that Shiki, Mikiya, and Touko are somehow the main characters of a paranormal agency (with Shiki and Mikiya being close somewhat). If you start off with Movie 2, you get a weird romance murder mystery that only gets weirder as supernatural stuff gets introduced in the following movies. Again, Movie 1 isn't the best, but it does its job well enough to set up the rest of the films.

Time to start this
5=3>7>4>2>MF>1>>>>>6

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Shiki can kill Shiki.
Discuss.

>>135575895
While I love Movie 5 for the spectacle, I thought Movie 7 gave that much needed final development for Shiki and Mikiya sooo.

7>5>3>4=2>1=6

>>135575837
The biggest problem with Movie one is that is does almost nothing to pull viewers in to figure out what happens in the next movie. With movie 1 you don't get any context of anything going on. Oh She has eye that can do something? Cool. Her left arm is a fake puppet arm? Okay. Is she a puppet with blood or just human? I don't kno.w She works for maybe a detective office that deal with strange cases that also makes puppets? Alright. Mikiya, is a guy that I think works the same place she does? Who knows.
While Movie 1 sets up the tone, it screws up where else and just leaves the viewer going "what?". At least with starting with Movie 2+4 you know the context the characters and the story, not to mention the murder mystery at least pushes the newcomer to keep going to see how it plays out as it ends with a good cliffhanger.

>>135576111
That was literally the point though. It was meant to make you question Shiki's overall character and how weird she was while being served up with self-contained supernatural story (hence why it never even explains itself about Shiki). That's also the reason why the narrative was more focused on the antagonist (Kirie) and the suicide plot.

While Movie 2 serves up the characters more closely, it's purposely put in as the "flashback" episode and it really shows in the way it's set up and how it leaves you hanging with what really happened to Shiki. In Movie 3, you're basically led to keep questioning Shiki's moral compass with how murderous she seemed, and the fate of the dual personality thing is further obscured by Shiki casually switching between her feminine and masculine personalities. It's only in Movie 4 that we realize that she's actually lost the masculine half and how in the present timeline (like Movie 3) she's purposely trying to act out both personalities.

So you have weird ghost/suicide story so who are the main characters? Movie 2 comes in to answer just that. So it's weird romance/murder plot but is Shiki really bloodthirsty? And what were her powers about? Movie 3 comes in to answer those question. So Shiki does like murder but what happened to her personalities? Movie 4 answers this and the origin of her powers and it ties it all together as the lead up for Movie 5. Again, love/hate it, KnK works with a purposeful narrative and a lot of it is purposely done the way it is to draw more mystery and intrigue from one movie to the next.

>>135576442
Basically figuring out what's going on and questioning what is happening is part of the fun.

>>135576536
Yeah, more or less.

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>>135574673
SO COLD AND HUMAN

>>135575895
5>7>2>MF>1>4>3>>6

3 was cool but probably the most unnecessary in the grand scheme of things.

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>>135576706
>tfw Arise turned Major into a bizarre Shiki clone

Why this

>>135576804
>MF
>Not a shameless cash-in

>>135576837
Same VA too

>>135576851
MF was good fun but it's not even part of the "Garden Of Sinners" series/books and is best treated as a fanservice-y movie for the fans.

>>135576442
You make good arguments on how the movies are structured and I can see why. But I'm going have to disagree as I honest to god wanted to quit watching the series since it just screamed "nothing will be explained until the end" which was partly true since I had to get through 4 different movies to get there. But still I'm the type of guy who at least wants basic information on characters and their motivations pretty early on.
Basically what I'm saying is that you can only appreciate Movie 1 after you've gotten to know the meat of the characters, which can only be done with watching movie 2+4. Otherwise I feel like its a boring mess to watch as a newcomer since it doesn't have many fighting scenes (I know its not about the fighting, but a character story) or character interactions to even care about the main characters you're watching. Its frustrating to the viewer and makes them question if they really want to commit to something that couldn't grab them in the first hour. Its fine to make the viewer question things, but don't just throw them into the middle of a timeline and expect them know the characters and the plot right off the bat. Its polarizing to new viewers.

>>135575474
How the hell did he not dehydrate himself with all that saliva

>>135576943
He's a lion bruh, just preparing the digestion of his prey.

I'm still not clear on why awakening Lio's origin turned him into a super human.

>>135576943
>all that saliva

Well he was going animal crazy by then (reminded me of a dog/spider with all the saliva branding), and if I recall his internal biology kept getting fucked up as time went on.

>>135577011
Awakening his origin basically unleashed all his past lives/experiences to the present time, causing his entire body to constantly morph until he'll end up devolving into a collective mass of a predatory beast.

His superhuman reflexes were basically the animal traits manifesting through him, hence why he even had golden hair, claws and feline/reptilian eyes by that point.