Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1357

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なるべく諦めない！
なせば大抵なんとかなる！

Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs

We all work hard to understand the dynamic relationship we have with a parent.

You can't learn Japanese.

Ban /djt/.

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FUCK YOU. YOU CAN LEARN JAPANESE.

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>>135573351
Say that to my face irl and see what happens.

Do you think you'll ever be able to read manga?

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>>135573351

>>135573203
I need advice: I'm working, and this year I started to study for the Uni.

My Uni has a the chance to give me a scholarship for study 6 month in Japan, but in order to take it I need at least an N4 level. Right now, I am at N5, but I want to reach N3 for December instead of N4.

The problem is, I think I'm burning out: too much things to do, too little time. Does some of you study and work? How do you manage to study japanese too?

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>>135573547

>>135573604
what the fuck is the third character?
a kanji?

>>135573619
Reaching N3 in a year isn't really that difficult.

You can always squeeze in 10-20 minutes of studying a day, do flashcards with example sentences.
Listen to cd-dramas or music when you're walking, brushing your teeth etc.

>>135573623
Is that a smug yes or a smug no?

>>135573632
まさか,　平仮名です

>>135573619
>My Uni has a the chance to give me a scholarship for study 6 month in Japan,
How do I into this, Do I have to go to some fancy uni?

>>135573703
Yes, it's for faggot rich kids whose parents have too much money.

>>135573703
Depends which country you live in. The universities in my country routinely offered exchange programs to Chinese and Japanese universities, among other sister universities around the world.

On a completely different note, that secondary manga for the cor spreadsheet is really filling out fast.

>>135573731
>I could have been one of those
Guess ill never learn japanese

>>135573682

10/20 minutes a day are enought? Do you mean for grammar or for flashcards? I can do flashcard while I'm on bus, now that I think about it.

>>135573703
I don't know where do you live, but in Italy is pretty simple: I just looked on my University's site, and saw this oppurtuniy (I was looking for erasmus, but this is much better).

RESOLUTION FAGGOTS ARE HERE

Why haragana and karagana means the same but have different symbols?

>>135573862
Why do hiragana and katakana sound the same but have different symbols?

Because they were made at the same time. Katakana was an answer to hiragana being extremely complicated before it was standardized in modern history.

>>135573855
>>135573801
Im american so im probably fucked when it comes to that

>>135573900
But are they both used together?

>>135573949
For different words, usually.

>>135573949
はい。そうです、バカ

>Fell under 70% on my reps
I can only hope my cards auto suspend soon.

>>135573855
To be honest you probably need 2 hours a day total study minimum and I'd recommend about 4.

1-2 hours reps
2-3 hours reading or some shit

>>135574074
Too many reps, my nigga.

>>135574018
>never went above 60% correct on my reps
Wew.

>>135574135
Are you new to this or something

>>135573986
>>135573965
Thanks!

See you fags in february

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>>135573862
>karagana
wew lad

Do a strawpoll boys, I'm feeling feisty.

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>>135574203
また会いましょう

>>135573909
America is a lot further away from Japan than my country is, and there is the whole nuking two Japanese cities thing. Sister universities tend to appear in sister cities. Here is a list for Burgers:
http://www.asiamattersforamerica.org/japan/data/sister-cities-prefecture
Maybe some of the higher funded universities with these sister city relations could have such exchange programs. Though, as an American you could always join the military and get shipped over to the of the thousands of military bases America has installed in Japan.

>>135574332
http://strawpoll.me/6428699

>>135574573
>(Pick one)

good job

>>135574573
Why is it single-choice, faggot?

Someone in an earlier thread said he's reading 人類は衰退しました ようせい、しますか？
How is it? There's nothing about the difficulty written in the reading list so I'm kinda curious

Do you think Japan will fight with us or against us in the Muslim Wars?

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>>135573238

This anon understands.

>>135574573
Japanese indie music.

>>135574613
>>135574621
My bad, updated poll.
http://strawpoll.me/6428730

Does anyone feel sorry for the people that can't learn Japanese? Those poor redditors that take months to get through basic shit.

>Try to do grammar
>Get sweepy
>Take nap nap
Every fuckin time

>>135574730
>sweepy
Never post again

>>135574725
Reddit is mostly dumb beginners but at least they have some people over there that actually know Japanese. Closest thing we have is imoutou.

>>135574789
sweepy sweepy chuu :3

Are we supposed to beat r/learnjapanese in the big competition and get the qt girl in the end?

>>135574795
Why do you think that there are no people here who know japanese? Multiple anons read plotge and some normies even have nip friends.

>>135573203
>もっと早い時間になんないのかね？
Can some help me with this?
Context is: Shes talking with someone at a meeting. Its 6am and she just yawned. Why is she asking for the meeting to be earlier?

>>135574613
>>135574621

wtf it defaults to pick one, my bad
http://strawpoll.me/6428699

>>135575242
and it linked my old one still, i give up

>>135575223
sarcasm?

>>135575242
Where's the "move to japan and die from overworking"?

>>135575266
I believe in you.

>>135575284
The time I lived in Japan were some of the days I spent the least amount of time studying Japanese.
You'll use like 10 basic phrases a day and your job will be speaking English. At least there's kanji on the train.

>>135575290
ok fine
http://strawpoll.me/6428850

>>135575284
you wanna make a trollpoll go ahead, i had to resist the ugre to add 'funposting on 2chan'

I just started out and I can't believe they use kanji for numbers and those kanji are also used in words.

>>135575277
Thats my guess too.

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>>135575410
>trollpoll
But I am indeed learning japanese mainly to live and work there.

>>135575447
That's why they're so retarded.

If you didn't do the 3 free levels of wanikani then you have no right to have an opinion on it.

>>135575636
>you need to put shit into your mouth to know that it's shit
Sure, bub.

Should I do Genki?

>>135575476
if you'd said as much i would have added it, unless it truly is your dream to die from overwork

just visit, have a biru, laugh, cry, avoid yakuza, keep your voice down
dont forget ねころび

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>>135573702

>using です after informal pronoun
'Course, you could've just been roleplaying as a samurai. Or I suppose they could've used something other than です

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>mfw going full easy mode and just learning how to read

>>135575223

Maybe she's referring to 時間 as something that should happen, sooner?
Or sarcasm as previously suggested.

>>135575915
damm thought i was safe if it was just that, guess not
only in baby stages of grammar, transitive and intransitive verbs
no idea what to do with informal pronouns

Samurai champloo webm about the pleasures of 平仮名: https://u.pomf.is/txvspp.webm

No sound on 4chan, so I uploaded it to pomf.io ;_; tfw no qt .se anymore.

>>135576125
>inb4 >dub
Thought it'd make more sense given that most people here are English-speakers learning nipp, or at least using English resources
tfw no good norwegian/swedish/danish resources on Japanese

>>135576239
>not using the world language for everything even if you were born and raised without it
It's great to have one standard that opens all the major doors to everything else.

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>>135576314
>tfw got used to thinking in English

>>135576314

I know, but it'd be nice. Maybe when school starts again I'll ask the librarian to order something.

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>>135576389
You should be all smiles, you little bitch. Your native language wasn't worth shit.

>>135576731
fuck off

>>135576753
You fuck off, this is an anglo board for anglos, not some sad euro faggots, or whatever.

>Monitor starts making a noise while on the CoR

Further proof that I can't learn Japanese.

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>>135574725
They can rot for all I care. If your reason(s) for learning Japanese isn't one of these

>to read untranslated Japanese porn
>to watch Japanese cartoons and Japanese cartoon porn
>to talk to your fellow Japanese virgins

you will never learn Japanese and be stuck at at most hiragana level for all eternity. This is backed by scientific research.

>>135577033
n'ai pas le seum gros pédé

>>135577033
It's okay anon, I'd be just as butthurt if I where a monolingual fag.

>>135577088
>>135577100
He's right though.

English is objectively better than everything except Latin, French, and Japanese.

>>135577079
>wanting to talk to japanese subhumans
You should have left it at porn. It's the only thing that makes foreigners able to learn japanese.

>>135577189
English is way better than the other languages you named, especially japanese.

>>135577257
Sorry germanbro.

>>135577257
>SVO
>good
I hope you don't seriously believe this.

SVO is absolute dogshit.

>>135573702
i can't recognise it, am I fucked?

>>135577257
Depends on what you're using it for.
Japanese is way better for making comics because you can stuff a lot more information into a small space.

English is more useful overall though.

>>135577302
>>135577343
The fuck are you faggots talking about?

>>135577343
SVO is godlike. The metric system of languages.

>>135577343
There's nothing wrong with svo.

>>135577387
English is a SVO language
Japanese is a SOV language
French and Latin change order depending on a variety of factors
>>135577442
Ching Chong ding dong and a Ni Hao to you Pao Ling!

SOV is the metric of language, there is a reason latin was taught in schools for centuries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlILecxSmWU

I put some subtitles on this video.

For the part at 0:22, SIK from クッキー says 食べさせる, from the line 「私も食べさせる！」.

Now, I know literally that by itself, it means, "(I) Feed", but that doesn't really convey how that line works in the 音MAD.

For now I have "Eat this!," which I think carries the emphasis on volition, but does anyone have a better suggestion?

Yes, this is a stupid question.

>>135577490
m8 i swer on my wiggly diggly that she's saying "たべさせろ"

>>135577482
>French and Latin change order depending on a variety of factors
excuse me?

>>135577482
Only niggers and muds use french though.

>>135577642
French is SVO most of the time but not all of the time (pronoun object means SOV, questions can sometimes be VSO)
Latin is inflected but is usually SOV

>>135577818
>questions can sometimes be VSO)
So like in English?

>>135577943
If you're yoda m8.
>fucking me you are?

Discipulus stupidus anonymus est
Est anonymus discipulus stupidus
Anonymus discipulus stupidus est
Discipulus stupidus est anonymus
Est discipulus stupidus anonymus
Anonymus est discipulus stupidus

Seriously you can't learn Japanese by doing anki. It's learning in a bubble and doesn't apply to actually reading or speaking at all. I don't get it.

What kind of autist brought up SOV like it matters at all?

>>135578125
It's good enough to build the fundament to get to the point where you're learning it for real when you actually start using it.

>>135578125
You can't learn a language if you're not prepared to devote the majority of your time to learning it.

>>135577593
>m8 i swer on my wiggly diggly that she's saying "たべさせろ"

Yes. You are right. But, how does that make anything different?

>>135578072
Am I?

>>135578256
Good thing at some point learning will just mean consuming.

>>135577490
"here comes the aeroplane!"

>>135578405
You know, I actually translated it exactly like that on a different video.

Doesn't really work here, though.

>>135578377
Consume this *unzips dick*

>>135578125
I'm starting to think that the first thing a beginner should do is to read a grammar book. Then use Anki and read at the same time, while reading more grammar stuff.

Is there a difference between doing your daily Anki in one go and doing it bit by bit throughout the day?

>>135578506
You can't consume something that was never created.

What's with all those beginner questions and mentalities? Shouldn't everyone ITT at least be advanced enough to have formed a mind on the matter that can advance on its own?

>>135578652
Is this one of those beginner questions?

>>135578742
Very original to be the usual child and to argue back with a question to a question.

>>135578867
Who is arguing?

>>135578895
I see, rotten to the core from spending too much time on this place.

>>135578867
>look at me call someone a child, am I mature yet?
Hello child.

>>135578652
>>135578742
>>135578867
>>135578895
>>135578970
>>135578985
Jimmy stop

>>135577079
3 out of 3
oh yeah!

>>135578985
Hello /v/.

where do you read manga

>>135577079
>talking to japs
here's average conversation with jap online
>はじめましてわたしのなまえは..
>えとわたしはあめりかじんでにほんごはべんきょうしてまする
>おいなんだこいつにほんごへたすぎwwww
>キチガイかよwwwwwww
>まじでキモいwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

>>135579390
I saw weebs do this "wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww" thing too. What does it mean? Is it like huehue for brazillians or yayayaya for latinos?

>>135579356
honto.jp

>>135579449
笑

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>>135579449
>What does it mean?

>>135579485
え?

>>135579508
>you can't learn japanese because you don't talk like japanese normalfags and weebs

>>135579543
Can you find a correlation between w and the word 笑う? If you can't, then >>135579508

>>135579549
Japanese normalfags don't use the internet.

They work in an office 16 hours a day until they die.

>>135579704
Japan has like the most density in internet users compared to population.

>>135578652
>What's with all those beginner questions and mentalities?

Happy New Year.

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Can we stop recommending advanced VNs for beginners yet?

It's cute so far, I feel like such a piece of shit for taking an hour to read 5 minutes in though. I can already tell my over-reliance on text hooking is going to fuck me.

>>135580193
Visual NOVEL anon, muv-luv is just as hard to read as LOGH.

But seriously that VN is easy as fuck to read.

>>135580193
m8 that screen is pretty easy to read. I didn't even have to look up any words.

>>135580193
It's not that advanced, every VN is going to have a couple lines that are harder than the rest when certain topics pop up. Even Flyable Heart has the sci-fi stuff. The closest you'll come to something with no hard lines is garbage like 人妻スイミング倶楽部. If you keep your head above water it gets a lot easier.
> I can already tell my over-reliance on text hooking is going to fuck me.
Pro advice: Just don't move on until you can re-read the line without using a texthooker. If you do that you'll force yourself to actually comprehend the word unstead of over-rely on the texthooker.

>>135573258
I'd love to see her being worn down and broken like dirty rag.

The distinction between "advanced" and "beginner" VNs is hard to make, because in the end it's all Japanese and not a whole lot of VNs actually deviate a lot from the norm. Usually, difficult comes down to the consistency of the vocabulary level as well as the variety and level of topics discussed (which in turn leads to more vocabulary. It's tempting to say "VNs with harder grammar" but really the only time grammar is a issue (in terms of being more advanced or more beginner) is when the topics are so alien even familiar grammar becomes difficult to understand (due to lack of context) because otherwise it'll still all just be normal Japanese you see everywhere.

It also seems to me that beginners can still benefit from reading advanced VNs. Since the problem mostly comes down to vocabulary, reading harder stuff essentially will serve as a funnel of vocabulary.

Man, why is learning new kanji so exciting? I get such a doki doki feeling in my chest whenever I come across a new one while reading.

>>135580193
There were a bunch of words that I didn't know, but I correctly guessed all of their readings, except for 衛星. I can feel my Japanese getting better all the time.

>>135580755
Enjoy it while it lasts.

>彼らの予測によれば、包囲態勢下におかれた帝国軍は、多数の敵に対する防御本能に身をゆだね、戦線を縮小させて密集体形をとるはずだった
Every time I read a full line in LOGH without looking anything up I feel pretty intelligent.

>>135580913
I already know nearly 2400 hundred, I don't think it's going away. In fact I really only started feeling this way after I had already learned 2000 or so.

>>135581002
>2400 hundred
*2400

>>135580915
>LOGH
>hard
m8

Try reading Aslan Senki.

If you can read it without stopping to look things up you can pass N1

>>135581040
no he literally means 240000

quite the feat

>>135581139
>he

I was correcting myself, but are there even 240000 kanji in existence? I though even with obscure Chinese dictionaries the total was only around 80000.

>>135581002
I'm at 2,900 ish and I know what you mean, there's a certain novelty to seeing a new one.

However, I don't like actually learning them.People say learning kanji becomes automatic after 2,500 or whatever but I disagree. It's easy to learn something like 偲ぶ for obvious reasons but something like 渓 isn't really easy (or hard), it's just like learning the first kanji, tedious and time consuming.
>>135581121
I didn't say it was hard (though if you call LOGH easy you're obviously looking at it from a "learned" perspective rather than a "learner" perspective), just that I feel intelligent. Not only due to whatever difficulty it has, but also just due to the subject matter and the fact I'm reading it in a second language.

I have Arslan Senki, and didn't read past the first page which was quite an experience.

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>>135581121
I picked a random page of Arslan Senki (because I remembered the Prologue of LOGH being way harder than the bulk of the text) and true to form, I don't think pic related is that much more difficult than LOGH. I mean, it's the same author after all. Why do you think it's harder than LOGH enough to point it out?

>>135581309
Shit man that looks nothing like my physical copy, maybe I have a different version.

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>>135581364
That's page 204. The beginning (pic related) is a lot different.

Reminder to all newfags that it is impossible to learn a new language if you are 25 or older

>>135581460
Thanks for the tip broski

Is it a bad habit to read the sentence without problems but still look up a word with a texthooker just to be sure you got it right?

>>135581460
Cool; I just started 5 months ago at age 29. I'm sure glad you posted that so that I know that I am wasting my time.
本当にありがとうお兄ちゃん　（＾。＾）！

>>135581550
時間の無駄から諦めろ。お礼は不要

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I didn't even know Japanese had accent marks.

Learn something new everyday, I guess.

>>135581460
Reminder that it's also literally impossible to get married if you are 25 or older.

>>135581600
諦めませんよ

>>135578125
Of course you cannot learn Japanese by only doing Anki. Anki is there to build up your vocabulary so you don't have to look up words all the time, not to teach you grammar or provide you with reading practice.

I doubt that anyone believes that they can learn Japanese solely through Anki.

>>135581901
It's a dialect from osaka

>>135581981
I did.

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>>135579356
In my bed, or on the bus, or anywhere else I go with my manga.

Guys my mom just had to take me to our family doctor because I got a UTI from my onahole.
KEEP YOUR ONAHOLE CLEAN.
I'm not talking a quick rinse under the sink, you need to use a mild soap and clean it GOOD, make sure it's dry before you put it up. It could happen to you.

>>135581901
now this is shitposting

>>135582019
Why do you constantly post your shitty collection of tard media?

>>135582010
tanjikandekonokakikomiworikaishirokonokusoga

>he can't read romaji

>>135582064
Why not? What's wrong with posting Japanese manga in a thread about learning Japanese?

Also, your taste in manga is shit.

>>135582019
Remember when your communism mug set off a whole argument about capitalism?
>>135582023
>tfw burns when i pee
>tfw not changing underwear or showering for a month straight may have given me a uti

>>135582106
I just hate him and his small, shitty collection.

>>135582023
I really don't understand the point of onaholes. They feel good, but the hassle of set-up and clean-up means I'd rather just use my hand.

It's easier to put in a fucking aneros than it is to use an onahole.

>>135581981
>Anki is there to build up your vocabulary so you don't have to look up words all the time, not to teach you grammar or provide you with reading practice.
That's why one of the most useful decks in the CoR is a Japanese grammar deck.

>>135582023
僕のチンポは小さいになりしました。

>>135581901
Amazing.

>>135582136
>Still can't get anything out of the aneros.
Either I'm not gay enough or I need a bigger dildo.

Can we stop this learning japanese is possible meme?

>>135582120
I do.

I still don't understand why people are so sensitive when it comes to communism.

>>135582135
You seem to have some anger issues if you hate someone over the fact that they post images on an anonymous imageboard.

>>135582182
I'm pretty sick of it, too. We all know that it's impossible for someone over the age of 5 to learn a second language, and that the only way to consume Japanese media is through the blessed offerings from our fan translator gods. I can't imagine anyone being dissatisfied with something run through Google translate, or translated from Chinese or Korean, or random guesses. After all, it's a free product, you can't complain.

>>135573619
>The problem is, I think I'm burning out: too much things to do, too little time. Does some of you study and work? How do you manage to study japanese too?

No, as soon as I entered my major (physics) I had to quit my part time job. I even tried a getting another job over summer quarter and it was still too much for me. I commend people who can work and do Uni at the same time, but I cannot do that. So instead I'm just a broke-ass who studies all the time.

Will a uti go away on it's own?

>>135582278
If you don't get antibiotics your dick might fall off.

What font do you all use to read nip on your browsers?

>>135582606
300% zoom works well.

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You often see people say you need to know about ~2000 kanji to be able to read things. But what does it really mean to know a kanji? The standalone reading and meaning? All the kunyomi? Every word it's a part of?

>>135583040
Being able to understand what the sentence means and read it properly if that kanji is in the sentence.

>>135583040
>But what does it really mean to know a kanji?
This is a question I've asked people every now and then and you get a range of answer. For some reason on DJT you also tend to get a lot of angry responses, but I guess that comes with the territory.
Personally, to 'know' a character, I should be able to recall and write it from memory, recognise it across multiple fonts and in handwriting, with the ability to comfortably correctly read the common words it is found in. You could also extend that final aspect to being able to recall the common ways it is pronounced, in isolation, and relate these different pronunciations to words they are commonly found in.

>>135583040
You actually don't need more than around 600+ vocab (around 10 words per kanji) to read simple LNs

>>135583040
. ~2000 Kanji is the exact number of the top ~2000 most used Kanji. These kanji are used in words and names that occur frequently. They do not include all the Kanji that you are likely to see. For that you would need around 3000 or 4000 to be safe. You do not need to know every reading and meaning as some of those can be obscure, just like you don't need to know every kanji to be able to comfortably read. Dictionaries exist.

My shitty ex girlfriend (Japanese) made me associate Japanese with bad things.

Super polite introductions to her parents who got mad at me anyway because I seemed impolite, and they thought I didn't care enough about her.

She got angry with me when she tried to tell me about her stupid high school girl drama in full speed casual Japanese after I had studied for just 6 months (She spoke English just fine, and never bothered to learn my native language... )

Messaged or spoke to me in Japanese when she got angry. And she got angry like every single day. Wanted more dick, wanted less dick, tired of me not talking with people in my class, tired of me talking too much with people in my class so I couldn't message her and so on. So during those months, I only really associated Japanese with lengthy and very difficult fights, anger and my daily struggles with Japanese.

So yeah, that was fun.

Also, I'm two years in and I still can't enjoy anything in Japanese. I mean, it's getting closer. Two years ago I understood nothing, and now I can read Yotsuba and understand simple videos and play simple games and google things and talk with Japanese people every day, but damn it still takes a long time. 6 months ago, it took me two hours to reply to a long message on LINE(20-30 lines of text in portrait mode), and I had to look up so many words. Now it takes maybe 15 minutes if I'm lucky and I know most of the words, but I've realised that I am only able to do this in context. If I begin talking with a new person or if somebody comes up to me on the street and talks to me, I almost literally die. That's pretty disheartening. Will I ever become fluent at Japanese? I still butcher my English from time to time, and I've been speaking that every day for the past 10 years. It just seems so far away, but at least I don't HATE Japanese anymore like I used to because of my ex.

>>135583467
Where do I subscribe?

>>135583467
That's what you get for sticking your dick in 3DPD.

>>135583467
自分語り乙

>>135583513
>>135583545
>>135583557
There's no way this garbage isn't just a repost from Reddit or something. Quit taking it seriously.

>>135583467
Nice blog anon.
Get over your girlfriend already and get some new Japanese friends.
Want to talk to stupid people? : http://www.skypechannel.net/
Even stupider people: http://chatpad.jp/
Normal: http://www.japan-guide.com/

>>135583576
bingo!

>>135583467
To overcome your problems you must fix their root.

You must eat your ex-girlfriend's beating heart in order to move on.

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Fuck NYR-fags, bloggers, and ledditors. What compelling content are you enjoying right now?

>>135583467
You must release all this anger one way or another.
Go find a Japanese girl and rape her. Yes, rape her and let every thrust of your dick release a week's worth of built up negative feelings.
It may sound a bit harsh, but ultimately, your well-being matters more than that of some random Japanese stranger.

>>135583576
>Quit taking it seriously.
I didn't.
Aside, what makes you feel free to other people how to respond to something?

>>135583618
That would taste pretty foul. Wouldn't it be easier to cut off her head, make a broth with it, and ladle it out to homeless people? That's what one of the Chinese noodle places nearby does, only they do it with stray pets and charge you a few bucks for it.

>>135583040

>You often see people say you need to know about ~2000 kanji to be able to read things

I hope nobody actually believes that, there's a big difference between being able to read something and being able to read something without ever encountering something new.

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>>135583784
Trying to get though the monogatari series

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>>135583784
>complains about memeshit while posting memeshit

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I have so much money saved up it's spilling out of my eyeballs.

I feel swallowing a "fuck it" pill and burning $150 on Rosetta Stone, is that a bad idea?
I realize this will earn me permanent stereotypical weeb status and get me laughed at by normies which will never fail to piss me off...but I reeeeally wanna watch my gook cartoons with max enjoyment and no subs. The thought just seems so...comfy. And you all seem to be enjoying yourselves immensely.

Amazon's open in another tab. Should I do it, /a/?

>>135582120
Is burning when you pee a bad sign? I get that when taking a piss right after masturbating.

>>135584153
Do it.

>>135584153
It's a terrible idea because Rosetta Stone is godawful.

>>135584153
If you have that much money then pay me to tutor you, I'm broke but can speak Japanese. Win win right?

>>135584153
That's a fantastic idea anon.
You should definitely go ahead and purchase Rosetta Stone!

>>135584153
You should do it, but remember to get a Wanikani subscription too so you can learn the moon runes once your done with Rosetta Stone.

>>135584153
>>135583467
Daily reminder that any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe they are in good company

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>>135584153

What the fuck djt advocates rape now?

>>135584305
The guy who said that is now dead. Do you want to end up like him?

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>>135584153
>>135584278
Don't forget to buy the Pimsleur tapes as well. You'll be able to talk to Japanese QT's in no time.

>>135584340
How can you hope to learn Japanese without raping?

>>135584153
>I feel swallowing a "fuck it" pill and burning $150 on Rosetta Stone, is that a bad idea?

Its not a bad idea, but its not the best idea.
I know exactly one person personally who can watch anime with no sub, and is also entirely self taught.

What you should do is:
1. Follow the fucking guide and get a minimal understanding of the basics.

2. Do what my friend did and go through VNs with voices, repeating every line until the words are burned in your head.

This sounds like work, because it is. However, Rosetta stone will probably teach how no to die if you wind up in a Western Mountain Town (if you could understand their accent). Which is actually much more simple, in most cases, than your average 5 minutes in any anime. Not by much, but it is.

>>135584305
Ah, said by Elbert Instine I believe.

>>135584340
What? I thought everyone here only learn Japanese so they can understand the Japanese women we rape?

>>135584420
someone doesn't????????

>>135583814
What if she comes back to find me and rape me to get rid of her negative feelings?

>HAHAHA RAPE IS SO FUNNY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT HAS BEEN RAPED
Fuck this thread, I'm done.

>>135584520
I feel like I watched an old japanese movie about this: Raping, I think was the title.
Seriously. I think it was made in the 70s or 80s.

>>135584540
What did you expect, internet is filled with retards.

>>135584540
BUT I'VE BEEN FART-RAPED

>>135584540
Stop it anon, you're raping me.

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>>135584573
犯す！

>>135584418
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine."
- Abraham Lincoln

>>135584540
Back to tumblr

>>135584540
Rape is still funny even after you've been raped.

>>135584520
You're a man, you should be able to handle that and rape her again if she tries something funny.

>>135584540
>Fuck this thread, I'm done.
I found a new learning source for you, you can thank me later.
http://www.tofugu.com/2012/06/05/misogynistic-kanji/

>>135584305
>eventually
anon

it's

2016

4chan was flooded by idiots in 2011 and passed the point of no return

>>135584853
>好
Isn't this actually from chinese where it actually refers to having both a daughter and a son (子) is good?

>>135584540
>>135584576
>>135584587
this site is literally reddit

>>135584853
Thanks for reminding me to add it to the blacklist of shit sites unworthy of traffic.

>>135584920
You're confusing 2011 with 2007, surprise-box friend.

>>135584920
things were no better then
you've been idolizing things

>>135584997
>>135585035
No this place was only ebaumsworld tier back in 2011, it has gotten noticeably worse.

>>135585035
4chan was far more enjoyable in 2005 then it is now.

>>135584920
I still have a lot of screencaps of posts back pre-2006. The shit posted back then wasn't any better.

>>135585121
Because you were 10 years old back then, and you have some kind of nostalgic connection to what seemed like fun at the time.

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>>135573862
I know this is late but holy shit

>>135585120
>it has gotten noticeably worse.
It's been downhill since the vans exploded. There was a time when people understood how to use the sage function, for starters.

>>135585147
Yes it was, but please run along to ED to fish out screencaps of a time you weren't part of.

>>135585192
>Because you were 10 years old back then
I was 17.
Keep projecting, you'll hit the target eventually.

>>135585120
>>135585121
enjoyable is subjective
you could enjoy shit, I surely do not

>>135585284
You weren't there.

>>135585282
You understand what I'm implying though. The fact that you were only 17 just reinforces my point.

>>135585326
you were?

Geass sundays were the best part of /a/.

Hey guys

guys

I just lost the game

>January 2nd
>already missed a day of practice

2016 isn't looking too good

>>135585331
>The fact that you were only 17 just reinforces my point.
No it doesn't. You're trying to imply this is some obfuscation by rose tinted glasses. You'd be wrong.
The site has changed dramatically in very objective ways. For a valid insinuation of nostalgia it would have to be a fair comparison, but it's not. The population of posters has grown dramatically; core functions of the site has been removed to make it easier for outsiders to post; generals are now not only common place but protected; legacy boards are buzzing hiveminds full of angry snowflake gen z kids.
These add to an experience shaped by objective measures.

>>135585360
Yes. SA never interested me and world2ch faded out. 4chan.net was the next best thing on a clearweb.

Does anyone know how to make Anki actually wait for the due time before showing a flashcard? The intervals I use are 1 10 30, but they tend to show up way before 10 or 30 minutes have passed.

>>135585870
Ｓｅｔ　ｌｅａｒｎ　ａｈｅａｄ　ｌｉｍｉｔ　ｔｏ　０．

>>135586001
Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rEipQSMPqM

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No matter which border you live within, all people are the same at heart.

>>135586614
>we are all the same inside

Please stop.

>>135586717
All equal before the eyes of God

>>135586717

Really, though. The whole

>if: sex =! female
>leave
>else
>stay

thing is so cross-cultural it's ridiculous.

>>135582139
>a Japanese grammar deck
Which?

Hah. Rakuten's promotion got extended again.

>>135586614
>>135586852
The Japanese guy actually said something though, English speakers just leave.

>>135586858
DOJG

>>135586852
You'll find a gay jap one day fuckboi.

>>135586852
I'm surprised he would even take the time to say goodbye, people usually just disconnect.

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>>135585382
>ゲアス日曜日は／エー／の最高のところだったぞ

どうだ、俺の日本語術？

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Hey, everyone. I self-teach using a couple of different books (Japanese Demystified is the backbone and I supplement it with a Japanese grammar handbook). One of my Japanese students (I'm an ESL teacher) tutors me once a week but he went back to Japan for winter break.

I just learned this structure.

What's the difference between, say, "先生のクラスは難しい" and "先生はクラスが難しいです" ?

>>135586895
That's just one guy though, if you go on omegle or whatever you'll meet people who say goodbye

>>135586717
Race is only skin deep, my friend.

>>135586903

Ah, that. I see three DOJG decks, though, which one is preferred?

>>135587033
Ｈｅｒｅ　ｉｓ　ｙｏｕｒ　ｒｅｐｌｙ．

>>135586995
>"先生はクラスが難しいです" ?
This one is grammatically incorrect in every possible way.

>>135587100

Scratch that, I'm retarded. There are two PDF folder links.

>>135587122
Sorry. Like I said, I just learned the structure today so I'm not surprised if I'm butchering it.

>>135587122
Couldn't it mean that that the class is difficult for the teacher? (Where the other sentence says that the teacher's class is hard.)

>>135586903
Thanks.

>>135586995
The first sentence is statement about sensei's class and the second is a statement about sensei. They convey pretty much the same information though. Also, the second one sounds very unnatural, if you could even consider it grammatical. That structure is very limited in terms of how it's used in practice. Usually you only use it with some predetermined Y's and Z's like 先生は背が高い.

>>135587174
Ah, I see. Yours was one of the sample sentences, but the book didn't specify that the usage was rare outside of that structure.

有難うございます。

>>135587298
Hmm, so that's what arigatou looks like in kanji. Neat.

>>135586614
Next time reply ある意味で and report results

>>135587335
I studied Chinese before I started Japanese, so kanji come more naturally to me. I actually have no idea how someone without Chinese background would make sense of them.

>>135587385
Probably just like how you made sense of them when first starting your studies of Chinese?

It's not so bad; I used Heisig's RTK which helped me.

>tfw nearing 200 leeched words
Maybe I will move them to a new deck, do 5 of them a day, and write them extensively.

>>135587385
You just have to learn them little by little. It's no biggie. I also wonder how you would deal with the trouble of changing from Chinese simplified characters to kanji. It's certainly easier than learning it all from scratch, but it must be a pain in the ass.

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Is it okay if I ask for help in here?
I got some problems with this panel.
The girl has been asked to get in a car but she is hesitating.

>お兄さんの友達なんだし...
>ここで揉めて知り合いに
>見られると説明に困るし


So if I understand it correctly, she is listing 2 reasons why she should get in the car. The first one is that it is a friend of "onii-san", but I don't understand the second one (line two and three).
Is she saying that if she says no it might hinder her from getting to know the person? Or is she saying that if she resists and someone sees them it might be hard to explain what they are doing? It is the "見られる" that is throwing me off.

Reminder that 500 words is a good spot to start reading more than anything. You have enough words if you did frequency.
700 or 1k if you did grade level.

>>135587487
>Probably just like how you made sense of them when first starting your studies of Chinese?
I guess. But my Chinese studies took place in a classroom (with a really good teacher, I might add) while my Japanese has been self-taught.

My original plan was to teach English in China but I taught there for a couple of months in 2012. Never again. Beijing was nice, I'll admit. Now I've set my sights on Japan instead.

Anyway, less blog and more language; some of the kanji would be difficult if not for my background. It's easier to break them into easy-to-remember parts if you know the Chinese pieces. 意 for example is "stand over sun over heart".

>>135587620
>Chinese simplified characters
Disgusting. My teacher was Taiwanese so I learned traditional.

Japanese kanji use some of both, though, such as the 学 in 高学. Traditional is 學.

>>135587676
Reminder that 0 words and Tae Kim under your belt is enough to start reading.

>>135587640
If I get into a fight here and it's seen by my acquaintances , explaining it will be troubling.
に marks the "doer" of a passive verb
知り合いに見られる
seen by acquaintances

>>135587676
Kana and basic knowledge of particles is enough.

>>135587711
>>Chinese simplified characters
>Disgusting
I like you.

>Japanese kanji use some of both, though, such as the 学 in 高学. Traditional is 學.
Yeah, but Japanese simplified doesn't look half as ugly as Chinese.

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This convo went somewhat better.

>>135587711
>It's easier to break them into easy-to-remember parts if you know the Chinese pieces. 意 for example is "stand over sun over heart".
You can do that even if you don't know Chinese. In fact, even if you're not doing a radical-based approach, eventually you can't help but break them apart in familiar components.

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You can start "reading" at any point. Hell, read to learn kana, should be good practice!

The question isn't when you *CAN* start reading. When reading is something as ill defined as "looking at Japanese text and attempting to understand it through outside help" then you can start reading before you even start studying Japanese. The question is, in fact, when is reading beneficial, efficiency and constructive. The answer to that, of course, varies from person to person. Core2k + Tae Kim is a good catch all net. Anything more than that is just personal bias and experiences speaking, not actually helpful advice.

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Reminder guys: Dreams come true.

How much have you read so far?

I have read:
185 volumes of manga
10 light novels
2 visual novels

Of course I've been twice that amount of time browsing 2ch and the internet.

>>135587841
>ほんをやりたい
Uh anon

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I'm a beginner
What I'm supposed to do here?
(That's anki for Android btw)

>>135587640
>ここで揉めて
Get into a quarrel here
>知り合いに見られる
Being seen by somebody I know
>説明に困る
Will be hard to explain.

>>135587965
yeah, I tried to say play games and read books but I left out read because I'm an idiot

>>135587948
>>135587841
No one cares, fuck off.

>>135587734
>>135587788
How many people actually do this? It seems like it'd be extremely frustrating.

>>135588001
Kill yourself you piece of shit.

>>135588018
Woah, son. Way to attack a gentleman.

>>135587950
I have a notepad of everything I've read, excluding ero-manga chapters and CG sets though I stopped fapping to those because nukige are better.

15 volumes of manga
28 visual novels

>>135587950
２３例文

>>135588001
I thought it was pretty heartwarming and it makes me look forward to the day that I will be able to communnicate with awkward japanese people.

>>135587991
See if you know what the word means, click show answer, then click the appropriate button depending on whether you got it right or not and on how easy it was to remember the meaning of the word. If it's your first time seeing the card just click show answer, remember it well, then click good.

>>135587756
Oh okay that makes sense.
Thanks a lot for the good explanation.

>>135587991
You are suppose to translate that sentence in your head, then you press "Show answer" to see if you did it correctly. You will be presented with 3-4 different options of how hard you thought the question was, and that will determine how long time will pass before you get asked about the same sentence again.
Think of it as a deck of cards, with questions written on one side and the answer on the back of the card. Pressing "show answer" flips the card to reveal the answer. It is up to you to decide how hard that particular card was.

>>135588018
You don't need to post every little thing you do, you're just being an attention whore.

>>135588057
Well, I can barely communicate. My grammar is a mess(see >>135587996)
but the way I see it is that if I just try, even if I suck, I'll improve a lot more than I would if I never try to just throw myself into it.

>>135587991
Did you randomize word order? You shouldn't be seeing that word so early.

>>135580193
>I can already tell my over-reliance on text hooking is going to fuck me.
stop doing core, make your new deck a custom deck of entirely imported words from your vn's

literally the solution

>>135588108
That's not me, and I don't see what's wrong with sharing conversation practice with native speakers. He's hardly being an attention whore when his posts convey almost nothing about himself.

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>>135588110
>even if I suck, I'll improve a lot more than I would if I never try to just throw myself into it.
I'm pretty sure your grammar will only improve by reading/listening to native material, and by being corrected by natives. Simply speaking will not really improve your grammar because you're just reinforcing your own misunderstandings. Practicing speaking will help you speak, but if you "know" the grammar to begin with you're not going to get much benefit from it, so you'll just be practicing bad speaking.

>>135588007
I started reading midway through tae-kim with something like 300 kanji and 600 words under my belt. Shit was hard, but extremely effective as a study method.

>>135588056
>例文
私も例文しか読みません。
^I fucked that sentence up, right? Could someone please enlighten me; I was trying to say I also only read example sentences.

>>135588172
>but if you "know" the grammar
if you don't know*

>>135588160
He is only posting it here to receive attention. That is why normies do anything, to receive attention. He is probably in love with the image or idea of learning Japanese than actually learning Japanese. He should go post it on reddit or something instead where they encourage that behavior.

>>135588096
>>135588104
thanks for the explanation
does this deck assume i know already something? I only know kana
>>135588117
will check for this

>>135587734
How are you going to learn grammar without any words at all? checkmate

>>135588234
>does this deck assume i know already something?
It assumes you understand how kanji function in relations to words and readings. If you haven't already, read through the beginning of Tae Kim's *grammar* guide so you know what's going on.

Also, you may want to look into other methods of learning Kanji, core2k/6k does NOT hold your hand when it comes to kanji, you may find yourself wanting to study radicals or learn the Remembering the Kanji method to help.

>>135588275
You win this round.

>>135588234
No. It expects you to learn each new word you see carefully. How you do that is up to you. Some people like to write them down a few times. I think that's a great idea cause it encourages you to learn stroke order, which is useful when reading handwriting and weird fonts, and you'll also learn to look at kanji properly (i.e. in terms of its components) sooner.

>>135588172
Well, it's not like I read a chapter of grammar and then stopped. I read grammar, read Japanese and then try out my knowledge with speaking.

If you don't actually try to articulate yourself and practice writing and speaking while you learn, you're missing out. You don't wait until you've learned all the vocab and grammar to speak and write. It's an active process.

>>135588233
Jesus Christ, man. I just thought it would be interesting to post a few pics of a convo. Chill the fuck out.

>>135587950

~20 volumes of manga
~200 doujinshi
7 VNs
2 JRPG

In about the last 6 months

>>135588233

Just because you never got any positive attention from anyone doesn't mean lashing out at others who do is the answer, anon. Calm your hurt ass, you're the only one here who cares.

>>135588192
How about: 私も例文しか読んだことがない

>>135588007
It was a bit frustrating adding 200+ words per day on Anki, but it got better eventually.

>>135588192
It was perfect.

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>>135588233

>>135588301
>Jesus Christ, man. I just thought it would be interesting to post a few pics of a convo. Chill the fuck out.
Is this supposed to be a parody of what a normalfag would say, or is this actually your response?

>>135588301
>If you don't actually try to articulate yourself and practice writing and speaking while you learn, you're missing out.
Sure, but I don't think it's going to help you get better very much. I remember a Steve video where he said that he doesn't even try and speak until he can understand what people say. That makes sense to me, if you get what it's implying.

>>135588343
Thank you very much; I never would have thought to use that construction just by reading through a grammar book.
I suppose I'll just need to read more to get used to what is the common way of saying different things.

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>>135588430
Did you type this post with intention? Like, double meaning? Subtext?

>>135588297
OK thanks reading tae kim right now

>>135588430
http://eow.alc.co.jp/search?q=%E3%81%9F%E3%81%93%E3%81%A8%E3%81%8C%E3%81%AA%E3%81%84

For those of you who have made it/semi made it. Is 2ch more fun than 4chan?

>>135588503
Not even close.

>>135588430
That sentence means something likely different.

>私も例文しか読みません。
I only read example sentences.

>私も例文しか読んだことがない
I have never read anything besides example sentences.

>>135588503
Surely you meant futaba.

>>135588503
No the Japanese internet for the most part is just a worse version of the English internet. The only exception is for things that are only popular in Japan like visual novel discussion. Even anime sites and discussion are better in English.

>>135588415

Not that guy but man, I hate to break it to you anon, but a widely-known and active anonymous board anyone can post in at any given time is not the super secret clubhouse that you seem think it is.

>>135588503
>4chan
retarded shitposters and children
>2ch
retarded shitposters and salarymen

>>135588547

Does anyone even post in that place, I remember checking it out at one point and it looked dead as hell.

>友達になりたい人はいますか？
>友達になりたい人がいますか?
>友達になりたい人いますか?

Which is the most correct? Options one and two both sound weird to me.

I'm just looking for a "Is there anyone who would like to. . ." construction. The given sentence was just an example.