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Cornucopia of Resources / Guide (read Guide before asking questions):
http://bitlasers.com/djt

Previous Thread:
>>135401686
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Morality of Piracy edition
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
Always try to show others that as long as you work hard and you're committed to fight for your education, anything's possible.
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つまんね
ねんまつ
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駄目人間
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https://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/comments/3yrnao/what_are_your_languagerelated_goals_next_yearnew/cyg214n
>aiming to finish Genki 2 over 5 months
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あした、一緒に二年参り行こうよ。おにいちゃん
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>>135428298
>started learning last year
>which means 2014
>can't even read Yotsuba
It hurts to see people like this.
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>>135428332
>二年参り
?
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What do you guys do with leeches? I have a few piling up and I don't want to just throw them back in without doing anything different with them.
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>>135428410
Write them in your notebook fifty times, you bitch.
I also custom-study all leeches every day (with them suspended).
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>>135428405
あれ?方言なのかな?
深夜の初詣のことだよ
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>>135428405
Spending Two years in temples
>>135428410
Deep fried leeches sound good right now. I don't automatically suspend leeches. Either I work out why I'm having trouble with it and solve that or I delete it.
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>>135428529
Oh shit I forgot to censor the nipple
RIP me
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I'm starting to think extensive listening is better than extensive reading. Reason being, with reading it gets easy to kind of simplifying word readings, like I just noticed I was reading 問う as "tuu" to save time, that can add up to problems long-term. With listening, you're getting pure language, but with reading, you gotta filter through your kanji goggles and gaijin pronunciation.
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YadudXXZS0
Friendly reminder that the JLPT is a joke
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>>135428529
That's one hell of a proverb.

いろいろして欲しいけど、お尻はやだなあ

You could put that above a bar or something, and nobody would bat an eyelid.
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Hello DJT
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>>135428622
You can't bully me.
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>>135428622
I'm getting btfo'd by the grammar here, what is she saying in the 2nd speechbubble from right? more specifically there seems to be 2 surus in the same sentence which I have not encountered before
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>>135428768
ようとする is to try
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holy shit
every time I read a bit I add 200-400 cards
Who's the faggot who said grammar is harder than vocab?
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>>135428933
To learn vocab you just have to mindlessly grind.
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>>135428933
Grammar is harder, vocab is more tedious
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Vocab isn't hard
Grammar isn't hard
Comprehension is hard
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>>135429055
Grammar and comprehension are pretty much the same thing
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>>135428933
>>135428933
I'm confused by this graph. Are you doing 15 cards a day while mining 200-400 and letting your mined words pile up?
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>>135429055
None of those things are hard. Understanding 30 year old pop culture references is hard.
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>>135429099
That's not hard. Either you know it or you don't.
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>>135428807
That helps, thank you. I think she's saying something along the lines of "she's enthusiastic about trying to understand her friends" but not 100 % sure...
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>>135429055
難しいのかな?

幼児語、反抗期語、学生語、敬語

の男女がそれぞれ違う表現つかうから

だいたい8種類暗記したらいいんじゃないかな

8ヶ国語暗記すると思えば、簡単だよ。おにいちゃん
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なるべく諦めない!
なせば大抵なんとかなる!

Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!
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>>135429408
Just wondering, are you the guy who was arguing about archiving last thread?
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How can I add sound to Kore 2k/6k?
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>>135430061
Shift+v.
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>>135430523
I guess I meant the audio, not recording my own sound
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>>135430599
Stop being a casual faggot.
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>>135430061
i want to know this too, i lost my hard drive and the guide now has the sounds coupled with the cards
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>>135430061
>>135430599
Read the guide cancer.
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>>135430664
Excuse me for being stupid then. I've read the guide 10+ times.

Also this>>135430659
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>>135429408

Why is this image so sexy?
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>>135429728
Nope, I usually only post in the threads if it's advice, pointing someone to a resource, or if it's about updating something in the CoR / the main site. Haven't read whatever that was last thread yet.
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>>135430823
As if.
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>>135430659
Just put the shit in the folder.
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>>135430814
The other spam image was sexier until spam-kun amputated her cute legs.
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>>135430969

Yea, I like this one too.
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>>135429408
>You CAN learn Japanese!
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>>135428583
Fuck this white devil.
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>>135428583
Why is she so popular?
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>>135431431
Why are you so gay?
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まあ、いいわ!
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>>135431431
She's not even qt.
There are much prettier internet qts.
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>>135428583
Even my fucking university professor told me the JLPT is meaningless. It seems like no-one except JET recruiters actually think passing this test means anything.
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>>135431463
>not being gay
It's 2015
Go do your Anki reps
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1) Girl
2) Actually lives in Japan
3) Actually knows Japanese
4) Is actively making videos https://www.youtube.com/user/kanadajin3/videos
5) Made many vids which accumulated hundred of thousands of views due to interest in Japanese culture
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>>135431511
Like all tests it exists mostly to siphon money from niggers.
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>>135431463
There are plenty of men out there who're way cuter than her FAS face is.
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>>135431543
niggers don't take tests
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>>135431497
People watch her because she's lived in Japan for a long time, has a permanent residence permit, and is generally knowledgeable about the country, the culture and the language. Have you even watched her videos?
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>>135431527
>kanadajin
Wow, an Anglo beast
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It should be illegal to talk about girls on this site. It should be illegal to be a girl.
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https://youtu.be/5Ghz00cdSMc?t=70
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>>135431527
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJKoHfkXhbA

She's a sad little cunt who likes nothing more than making her fellow human beings miserable.
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>>135431571
I watched that one video of her saying she wouldn't teach English to her children if she had any, from there I decided that she was an unlikable bitch
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If she didn't get raped and impregnated by a Yakuza I don't really care.
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>>135431567
Not for long anyway
>3) Actually knows Japanese
If you can't pass N1 you don't know Japanese
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>>135431637
Oh god, this one seems like an even bigger bitch. Fuck e-celebs.
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sorry if this question gets asked a lot, if I wanted to buy raw LN what would be the best shops? Both for actual copies and ebbok versions. I bought a few with amazon but shipping is really expensive, and it doesn't let me download ebooks unless I lie about my kindle being in Japan.
(I am aware of the resources database, but I like to be able to pick stuff on my own). Which sites do you guys use?
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>>135431637
Man, this drama is sad.
Also she called 2chan "ni chan" at 12:00. Is that how it's actually called in Japan?
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>>135431741
Weebs are weird in that they look for the most obtuse, shitty places to buy stuff from. The actual answer is Amazon.jp
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>>135430728
Import the deck with the sounds, then delete the deck
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>>135431767
You may be shocked to learn that Japanese people don't natively speak English.
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>>135431790
I guess, but I wondered if there was a way to not deal with the ebook country restrictions. I use my own country's amazon a lot so switching all the time sounds like a pain in the ass, and it would probably tip them off
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>>135431864
2/3 of a jap's common talk is English words now.
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>>135431864

えっ?本当か?
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>>135431864
Many times I have seen Japanese people read Arabic numerals in English.
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>>135431889
>2/3 of a jap's common talk is bastardized English words now.
FTFY
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>>135428583
> I know people who have N1 in the test but cannot speak or understand Japanese at all.

Is it that easy? I kind of want to do the test because I want to take up a career in translation.
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>>135432107
I think that was a lie, actually. The JLPT N1 is fairly "difficult" in the sense it really does test real Japanese, you absolutely will not be able to pass it if you don't know the Japanese. At most someone could grind 10,000 words and kanji with flashcards and try to scrounge up 40 points from guessing, but I doubt that. Also, someone may be able to pass the reading / vocab / kanji sections but fail the listening, and thereby understand Japanese but be unable to communicate with it, but that is fairly fringe and I don't think too likely. So, I think she is lying.
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>>135432187
Why do you keep reposting that picture?
It has nothing to do with N1.
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>>135432218
N1 = Japanese
That image = Japanese
I see a pretty clear relationship.
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>>135432187
I have looked at the past papers and I don't think it is beyond being studied for and passed by someone with very little functional ability.

www.tanos.co.uk/jlpt/skills/pastpapers/N1-mondai.pdf
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>>135432290
I think it is beyond it. I mean even what you linked would be extremely difficult for someone bad at Japanese.
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>>135431511
This. I feel like i would be just better off getting ESL certified if i wanted ro teach english in japan, especially outside of the JET program.
Has anyone ever heard of the westgate progra that does short term (3-5 month) contracts. Are they legit?
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>>135432268
Kobun=Japanese
And so what? Even Japanese people can't read that shit
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>>135432290
Within the time limits it is
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>>135432418
Even outside of the time limits, if you don't know Japanese you don't know it and won't be able to answer the questions.
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>>135432359
Yeah, but they can read >>135432187
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>>135432546
Yeah, but not on the JLPT
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>>135432581
I don't see your point.
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>>135432596
I don't give a fuck about punctuation and you can't make me
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>>135432672
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>>135432672
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>there are still people who think you can pass JLPT without knowing Japanese
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>>135432832
Being able to pass N1 is a necessary but not sufficient requirement for knowing Japanese.
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>>135432832
I think it's more that people think it may be like N5 where you can scrape by and pass while actually knowing very little about Japanese. When in truth, it is far from that.
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>>135432880
Oh boy, here we go again with the arbitrary definitions and beliefs for what constitutes "knowing". I'll see myself out.
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what does it say?
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>>135428583
>pass N1 in one or two days of studying your butt off.

Wow, this is going to be the easiest 70 quid ever!
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>>135432906
You don't know Japanese if you can't pass N1, which is fucking easy for the natives.
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>>135433006
Would you care to define "know" for me?
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>>135433047

I want to touch that girl's boobs.
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great thread guys
sono choushi
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>>135433335
yare yare da ze
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>>135432913
>高給の取れる個人アルバイト家庭教師になれるだけの信頼ある大学はどこでしょう。

関東ならあそことかあそことか
関西ならあそことかあそことか

ましまろ市は競争率も低いが賃金も低い
のぶ姉は浜商(アニメでは浜短)なので家庭教師にはならないとおもう

浜松医大学部生、静大院生あたりは低賃金だけど多少はできるみたい
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>>135432913
I could only read the first and third kanji and could guess what it meant. Just draw the kanji in google translate you lazy faggot
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>>135433391
I can read all the kanji there but I'm not sure. "I wonder if [I could be] a part-time tutor at a popular college?"
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良いお年を ~
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I'm gay, fuck off if you don't like it.
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>>135434233
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>>135434233
Come here, I'll strangle you before you can spread your vice any further.
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>>135434382

wow nasty bitch needs to cut those long ass fingernails haha
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>passed 2,500
We close now boys
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>>135434233

Come here, I'll fuck your ass so you can't spread your vice any further. Filthy homosexuals need to be punished.
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>>135434610
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>>135434233
Worse than vegans.
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>>135434644
>degenerate
>decadent

why?
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>>135433047
What point is your image supposed to be making?
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>>135434728
decadent:
characterized by or reflecting a state of moral or cultural decline.
>>135434752
The image wasn't to make a point, I included it because it shows a guy who reads newspapers and fluently converses with business partners in Japan being unable to pass N1 which I consider to be an interesting perspective.
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>>135434791
He only claims to be able to do these things.
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>>135434863
I believe him. First of all, if you look through his account history there's only evidence backing up his claims. But beyond that, call me naive, but I don't think someone would write a post like that if it weren't true.
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誰かは俺が話したいか?
新しい年で何をするか?
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>>135435290
いいよー
スカイプ教えて
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Reading so much Japanese has given me a whole new perspective on communication. Namely, vocabulary. I keep fantasizing what I'd be like if the characters in the VNs just happened to be as bad at Japanese as I am. For example.
>俺の手下になれ!
>それはありえない!
>ならば死ね!!!
vs
>俺の手下になれ!
>W-what!? ...What does テシテ mean?
>Eh? テシテ? No, it's てした.
>Oh, てした? W-what!? ...What does 手下 mean?
>It means 部下, you know 部下...?
>What!? ...Can you repeat that?
>部下! Fucking hell.
>部下!? ...Sorry, don't know that word either.
>Holy shit are you retarded?
>No, Japanese is just kind of hard, so...
>Jesus Christ.
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How do I get the motivation to do anything beyond reps? My brain is fried by the time I finish.
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Pi guy from a few days ago. I screwed up. I think to remember this, my ease needs to be way lower.

/sage
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皆さんわどう思いて?
Should i learn new kanji from a full kanji deck or from reading and mining?
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>>135435587
Read before reps.
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>>135432341
Buddy, I've got news for you, if English is not your native language they will not hire you to teach English in Japan.
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>>135435642
>わ
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>>135434586
>tfw almost at 2500

2333 last time I checked, we're all gonna make it.
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>About 900 words into core
>Reviews are getting longer
>Retention getting worse
I can't go on.
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>>135435819
CAN'T
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>>135435592
You worthless shit. You'll never get anywhere like that.
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>>135428933
it's all one sperglord samefagging his autistic idea
similar to "climbing mount everest isn't hard, it just takes some time"
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>>135435819
ファイト
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>>135435422
Watch out, it's only going to end in tears if you pay too much attention to how bad you are.
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>>135435717
It is my native language, I'm just fucking filled with typos today.

What I really want to know is if taking the certification to TEACH engish as a second language internationally worth more than the JPLT.
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You say English,We say Japanese
You say cars, we say nyan cats
you say Justin Bieber,we say Vocaloid
you say reality, we say Anime
you say awesome!,we say sugoii!
You say cute,we say kawaii.
You say comics,we say Manga
you say hello,we say konichiwa
you learn Japanese from classes,we learn from Anime
you cry if a character dies,we have a rainbow of emotions
you only feel what your favorite person feels,we feel everyone else feelings
you crush on a pop stars,we crush on Anime characters
you think we're crazy,but we think you're just normal
you say pirates,we say ONE PIECE
You say ninja,we say NARUTO
You say swords,we say BLEACH
you say family,we say FAIRYTAIL
You say crazy,we say SOUL EATER
you say justice,we say kira
you think we're fangirls/fanboys,but we're all Otakus
I Am An Otaku And I Approve This Message!
You are an OTAKU either??
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>>135435942
They won't take you if you're shit at it. End of story.
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>>135435642
>わ
>思いて

I 思う that you should start with the basics first, 先輩.
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>>135436047
Hell yeah motherfucker. OTAKU PRIDE !
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>>135435819

Then don't do core, trying to force yourself to use a method that doesn't work for you is the fastest way to losing motivation and giving up.
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>>135435422
You're way better than me; I read that as ヘタ at first.
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>>135435592
What the fuck man.
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投函
I was about to say "rare kanji for you rare kanji postulators" but this is jinmeiyo and pretty common it seems...
>>135436151
The implication was that they're having spoken communication
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>>135435819
Do RTK or Wanikani, clearly the jump-right-into-vocab approach isn't working for you.
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>>135435819
You can do it.
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>>135436197
Stop or I'll bully you.
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>>135436197
No, no, no, no, no. RTK is the last thing a guy who can't remember something as simple as words should do.
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>>135436197
>Waste 9 months of your time with useless mnemonics instead of actually learning something.
Das good advice mayne.
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>>135436302
ご愁傷さま
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>>135436302
You can do it.
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>>135436302
>new year's resolution
Trash it.
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>>135436367
kek'd, it just happened to be new year period, starting today anyways
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>tfw learning Japanese was your dying gay mother's final wish for you.
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>>135436302
>giving up
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All I do is grind, grind, grind, no matter what
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>>135431571
>knowledgeable about the country

lol, you're insane if you actually believe this.
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>>135436059
Too vague, anon. Do I have to be good at teaching english or speaking advanced japanese. Are the tales of there being a demand for low level japanese speakers lies? Is there any benefit to having real time teaching skills? Or is this really bullshit i can do straight out of college?
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Got vocab on my mind I can never learn enough
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Reminder to never suspend your leeches unless you're a fucking retarded faggot.
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>meet Japanese pen pal
>talk for a few days
>they never respond again
>literally every time

Do Japanese people just not care enough about learning English or am I just an uncultured swine
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I'm confused. Do you guys take the on or kun readings? Or both?
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>>135436604
They don't care about you, doesn't matter how cultured you are.
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>>135436604
Post examples.
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>>135436604
They most likely found you boring or something.
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>>135436302
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>>135436604
Japs are the most boring and annoying people you could ever communicate with on the internet, don't feel bad.
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>>135436627
>Memorizing readings.
Well you won't be around long.
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>>135436657
>world peace through anki
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>>135436570
You again? We already told you why suspending leeches is a bad idea the last two days, just give up already.
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>>135436729
... NOT suspending leeches, obviously
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>>135436666
This is my experience with Hellotalk. Holy shit, are they dull.
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>>135436302
I'm this fag, should I just start over again or go through all the cards and see which I remember?
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>>135436638
Every time. List goes further down for the rest of the year
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Did someone of you played nekopara?
If so, is the jap. sub hard?
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>>135436302
>99.8% young
doubt
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>>135436302
cheating faggot fuck off
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>>135436812
>Serina with that garbage pic.
Dumb bitch.
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>>135436812
>お元気っすか
>こんちゃ
I hate retarded normiespeak so much
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>>135436604
The majority don't care about learning English, yes.
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>>135436818
The Japanese is average difficulty. It's Japanese. Not really harder or easier than any other moege.
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>>135436812
Fuck. I'm going to be in my low 30s before I'll know enough to communicate with japanese qt's.
いいいいい痛い
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>>135436812
Aren't most of those last messages theirs?
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>tfw you cant learn japanese cause your a vegan

sigh
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>>135436873
It gets worse. That guy Yuki who sent me the audio message sent me a recording of him singing. Like shit was pretty cringy. . . that's the only one where I just never responded.
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>>135436627
Both but not at the same time and neither individually.
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>>135436939
Explain.
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>>135436939
At least you won't be going to h*ll
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>>135436938
No those are all mine. Me saying hi after x amount of time not talking.
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>>135436957

my brain is not getting enough nutrients
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>>135436906
>こんちゃ
is that supposed to beこんにちは
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>>135436944
holy shit I didn't expand the image completely but I thought it was a girl
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>>135436677

>not memorizing common readings

Why would you not take advantage of one of the biggest strengths of kanji, there is literally no upside to memorizing everything separately instead of only the exceptions that fall outside the common readings.
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>>135436985
Yes you stupid fuck. You could have looked that up in three seconds. You can't learn Japanese.
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Word of the day: 陰裂

日本語って、エッチな言葉だけは豊富ですね
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>>135436985
Yes. It's like saying hi (こんちゃ) as opposed to saying hello (こんにちは)
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>>135436812
You write like a faggot, mate.
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>>135437022
Did your dog die today or something? Chillax man.
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>>135436812
Yuki is a grils name but that's definitely a boy in the picture.
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>Niggas still be usin Meiryo
lol
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>>135436982
You could stop being a vegan.
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>>135437055
>Yuki is a grils name

It's bi gender.
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>>135437121
Only time a male is named yuki is when their parents hate them and wants them to get bullied hard.
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>>135437155
..yeah, but he is yuuki, not yuki, so it's all good.
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>>135437155
裕樹
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>>135437270
>>135437249
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>>135436444
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>>135437031
Can upload him singing if you want

>inb4 you text like a girly man.
It was late and I was talking to females all that day.
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>>135437313
うん。僕は死にたいよ
でも… 死ねって言う?
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Don't forget to start shilling Genki, RTK, WaniKani and other shit methods when the New Year's Resolution guys show up.
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>>135437398

I don't think you could be gayer if you stuck a dick up your butt.
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>>135437398
You didn't even introduce yourself you autistic shit. No wonder no one wants to talk to you.
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>>135437398
Please, do upload.
I'm still not in the ignoring phase, only a disturbingly old woman asking me about too personal shit
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>>135437502
>only a disturbingly old woman asking me about too personal shit

Go on...
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>>135434586
850 here ;_;
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>>135437398
>こんちゃ
You sound like a retard
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>>135437458
The reason most of you struggle so much is probably because you completely dismiss Genki for some reason.
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>>135428529
>>135428560
Either nipple mod is dead or he really liked this picture
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How do you read a grammar book? Mine all of the particles etc. And put them into a deck? Reread until it sticks? Even something structured like Genki I have no idea how to direct myself through it.
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>>135437398
You are obnoxious as fuck, if I was Japanese and had decency I would ignore you but then I wouldn't go on those sort things if I had decency anyway.
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>>135437668
Huh? Genki is too slow. Tae Kim or Japanese the Manga Way are much better. It's a shame JtMW has romaji though.
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>>135437668

Genki is like if I went to eat a sandwich, every time I took a bite I had to take the sandwich apart and put it back together again.
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>>135437713
Practice? look at sentences that use those particles and then break them down.
just staring at something and not knowing how to use it is stupid.
Practice making sentences with those particles.
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>>135437713
Skim it and read the Yotsuba pack.
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>>135437713
>Mine all of the particles etc. And put them into a deck?
Easy with the Anki
>Even something structured like Genki I have no idea how to direct myself through it.
Read it in the same order as the page numbering. It's cleverly ordered in such a way that the latter parts build upon the previous ones, which lets you gradually increase your understanding of Japanese and become pretty good at it by the end.
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>>135437458
>shilling Genki
Genki is acceptable though, and we even pirate it. It's only RTK and WaniKani being wastes of time that normally cost money.
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>>135437623
>>135437718
OK?
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>Have little problem reading most shit
>Can't listen to even the simplest content

Listening practice is just too frustrating
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>>135437733
A bit of romaji has never killed anyone.
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>>135437840
What do you expect me to do about it?
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>>135437833
I see your autism isn't limited to Japanese
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>>135437874
Hold me
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>>135437908

I'll hold my dick in your butt you fucking faggot.
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>>135436957
If you can't take fish oil, you can't learn Japanese.
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>>135437840
Genki has listening excercises.
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>>135437942
Give me your load, master! Please!
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>>135438073
Jpod101 has better ones as long as you just extract their scripted dialogues dialogues.
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https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1055110166
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>>135438309
Not that anon but the guys voice is just the worst
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>>135438115
I said I was going to hold it. Not do anything gay with it.
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>>135438115

ああああああ!くらえ!
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>>135438400
>use skip reviews every day
>never have to do any reps, yet still learns Japanese
Feels good. Who said Japanese was hard?
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>>135438402
I'm talking about the scripted dialogues that are done by professional voice actors.

If you're talking about whatshisname -- Peter -- I totally agree. Fuck Peter. Naomi-sensei sound pretty kawaii though.
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>>135438400
This is the best thing since RTK.
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>>135438400
This one sure is stupid. It would make more sense if you could move ALL your rewievs forward by a day if you didn't happen to have time to do reps that day
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Does anyone have a good estimate of how many words you'd need to learn to get fluent in a reasonable amount of time? I know most grammar and kanji at this point but my vocab has just gone out the window since I stopped studying seriously about 2 years ago.

If you did 10 words a day, vs 4 words a day, how far would you get?
When I saw this post
>>135428298
>Genki 2 over 5 months
It made me wonder how many people aren't studying at a decent pace and should just give up, or study harder. Myself included.
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>>135438400
This is quite tempting.
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>>135438808
At least 20000.
You aren't going to get anywhere with 4 words a day.
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>>135438808
I think 6,000 - 10,000 vocabulary is the "conversational" level where you can follow most novels and television while a relatively degree of comprehension (assuming you also know grammar + have done listening practice). I'm at that level and can read most books and watch most anime so that's what I'm basing it on. That would be 2.7 years at 10 words a day or 6.85 years at 4 words a day. In reality, reading practice + kanji will boost you a lot. That's not very long (2.7 years - 1 year due to reading practice gains = 1.7 years) in my opinion.
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>>135438808
>10 words a day, vs 4 words a day
Neither are going to learn Japanese at this rate.
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>>135439135
What would you suggest?

I would think 10-15 words/day in addition to an hour or so of reading would get someone to a decent place of understanding.
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>>135439272
50 words a day with a minimum of 8 hours of reading.
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I read the average grade schooler learns about 4 words a day
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>>135439435
The average grade schooler A SHIT
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>>135438402
You talking about the Jew?
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>>135439435
They have their whole lives to become fluent in their native language. No one here is trying to take over a decade just to be able to understand middle school shit.
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>>135439435
>you learn more words than the average grade schooler
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>>135438808
Not everyone can study at a NEET's pace, faggot.
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>>135439272
Only if you mine every single word you don't know.
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>>135439600
Not everyone can be successful.
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>>135438808
>It made me wonder how many people aren't studying at a decent pace and should just give up, or study harder. Myself included.

Genki II in 5 months is actually almost TWICE as fast as the average second-level college Japanese course. That guy is actually learning TOO quickly. I recommend taking 10 months to do each Genki book, that's slightly slower than a classroom pace, but you need to spend more time doing production exercises to make up for the fact that you don't have a trained, PhD-holding Professor of Japanese guiding your learning.
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>>135438400
>>135438400
This is the "you can't learn Japanese girl" in disguise. Get the fuck out of here. Do your reps, Anon-san. A lazy day is for those plebs that will ever learn Japanese.
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This is honestly the only place I know where a NEET is seen as a diligent learner.
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>>135439600
Dude, Genki 2 in 5 months is slow as shit. I'm at work for 11 hours a day and I still managed to move faster than that. You just need to sacrifice everything else: no friends, no good food, no other hobbies.

>>135439648
That wouldn't work when someone is just starting out... unless they're some autistic savant with an amazing memory.

>>135439726
:)
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>>135439726
Love how you guys mock classroom environments but never once demonstrate that you have any knowledge of Japanese. Keep it up boys.
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>>135439793
Also, cutting sleep time is a good one, can't learn Japanese sleeping after all.
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>>135439794
Watashi no nihongo wa sugoku kakkoii desu yo. Anata no atama wa netamashikatta desu ka?
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>>135438400
Don't do this. It'll kill your resolve and motivation.
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>>135439794
Yes, goyim, classroom environments are the only way to learn a language, now surrender the cash and you'll get the kana down in 2 months.
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>>135439726
>production exercises
I don't exactly know what this is but if it means writing and shit then grade A troll bro.
I doubt anyone here will fall for it but you know someone out there would believe this.
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月明かりよ道を照らせ 進むべき道を照らせ
月明かりよ俺を照らせ 太陽を失ったこの身を包め
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Do you think learning 文語 is worth it?
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So this basic-ish thing I can't find much on google is annoiying me.

"ホモと見る新しい花子さんのエロアニメ"

I think it's Keikosan's ero anime that's seen as homosexual? Keikosan's homo ero anime? the ホモと見る part is what's tripping me up.
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>>135440649
I think it's something like "look at as homo"
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>>135440649
>>135440725
If you're homo, watch new flower man's erotic anime
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>A: 洗濯物は?
>B: たんでおいた
What is たん?
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>>135440863
You sure it's not たたんでおいた?
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向こうから「こんにちは〜〜〜〜〜〜〜ぁ」
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>>135440920
帰レ
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>>135437385
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What's the nip term for "slice of life"?
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>>135440910
Crap, you're right. Thanks.
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>>135441058
スリス・アッブ・ライフ
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>>135441058
至福
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>>135440649
Pretty sure 見る in this case is more like "to judge" or "to assess." So Keikosan's new homo (lit.: judged as homo) eroanime, basically.
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>>135441058
日常/生活
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I wonder if they have a Daily English Thread on 2chan.
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>>135441413
They have an English board. 2ch is the kind of place where there's a board for things, not a thread for things.
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>>135441443

What did I tell you about those normalfag comics fucker!?
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I don't particularly mind, but why am I getting this and all the economics terms before something like 犬?
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>>135441484
I didn't post any, don't worry.
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>>135441539
Coreは阿呆だから
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>>135441539
Core was mined from newspapers. It's kind of shitty to be honest but it's the best we've got.
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>>135441539

I just did that word a few days ago. It gave me hell for some reason.
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>>135441831
Core2k is good, with maybe a 5% "useless card" rate (and even those are actually good words if you actually intend to speak and communicate in Japanese).
It's only Core6k that really pushes it.
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>>135441831
Or you could just ignore the DJT memes and do wanikani. The vocab is way more weeb-oriented than Core, at any rate.
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>>135441923

Core was mined from newspapers, Wanikani was mined from Dragonball Z.
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>>135428152
RIKAISAMA 22.9 relased 5 hours ago

but somehow download doesnt work kek
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>>135441999
22.9? Hasn't that update been available for weeks? If fuckfucks is giving you trouble type
about:config
into your browser and set
xpinstall.signatures.required
to false
Make sure you set it to update never too.
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>>135442101
dunno i just checked and it says uploaded 5 hours ago.
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>>135441982
So do WaniKani then? I mean, I plan on reading manga mostly.
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>>135442187
..or forget WaniKani, read Japanese the Manga Way and then start reading manga?
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>>135437398

>anon is boring as fuck to talk to
>WHY ARENT THEY REPLYING

hahahahaahhahahhahahahahahahaha
>こんちゃ
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>>135442231
"F*ck you, I won't do what you tell me."
- Albert Einstein
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>>135441539
Core is the fastest way to read newspapers.
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>>135441539

This is why I'm learning kanji by grade order.
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>/DJT/ finally beginning to realize that Anki sucks.
It's sweet fruit indeed.
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>>135442426

The day I deleted my anki decks and started wanikani was the day I started learning real 日本語.
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>>135442426
Anki rules and everyone worth their salt knows it. Those who don't do anki will fail.
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>>135442426
Anki sucks if you're a normie who can't sit down and do reps every day. But if you can't dedicate yourself to learning a language you're not going to learn it (in a reasonable amount of time) anyway.
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>>135442491
What is this wanikani meme? I've only been browsing these threads for 2 days. Back in my day the memes were watching subs and not learning kanji.
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>>135442535
I'd say grinding away at anki is more of a normie way of learning than alternate methods are
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>>135442588
probably the people that made wanikani shilling it as hard as possible
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>>135442588
its probably a gorilla from wanikani staff
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>>135442661
isn't there some dude working on turning their information into an anki deck?
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>>135442697
It’s already been done。
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>>135442697
even if that were to happen, still nobody would use it
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Finding good bara VNs in japanese is the true definition of suffering.
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>>135442751
Nobody would use it only because the Wanikani Method relies on proceeding at the exact pace set by the specially developed proprietary Wanikani SRS technology. But those who do follow the Wanikani Method properly will undoubtedly learn Japanese.
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>>135442728
嘘。知られないよ

>>135442828
本当?
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>>135442822
get out faggot
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>>135442822
It's nothing compared to the suffering you will experience while burning in hell, sodomite.
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>>135442828
This man knows what's up.
Btw I'm not supposed to tell you guys but WaniKani is currently 30% off ;)
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>>135442945
Don't worry boys, there's plenty of bara doujins to take your "anger" out on.
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Is なんやで dialect? I don't understand
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>>135443029
Yes, it is dialect.
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What the heck does this mean?
'食べちゃいたいくらい'
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>>135443080
"I want to eat it up completely"-level
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>>135443067
Is it used positively or negatively?
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>牽制球を投げる

I don't understand anything about baseball, what is this expression supposed to mean?
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>>135442822
Have you tried morenatsu yet?
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>>135443301
"Wow he can hit it that far?"
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>>135443139
Thank you. Is 'to do something completely' the most common use of ちゃう?
I'm aware that it can also mean 'to do something accidentally' and 'to be surprised at an action' (I think).
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>>135443276
It's なんだよ
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>>135443339
This makes no sense in context... I though it had to do with being careful or giving warnings or something.
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>reading at a decent pace and then
>slang
>dialect

;_;
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>>135443319
Already played it with the english patch a while back. Now that I can finally read the original text they stopped development after working on it for over a fucking decade so it's just sad to play now.

Tatsu's route might be worth it.
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How do I change the core deck from production to recognition?
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>>135443438
Delete recognition tab
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>>135443358
It depends on the context. It could be "I want to eat it all up (though I'm not supposed to)"-level or something like that.
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>>135443319
...wait, do you guys actually buy these VNs?
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>>135443455
I'm really sorry, I can't find it?
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>>135443529
>buying VNs
Who does this?
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>>135443559

C:\Windows\System32
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>>135443529
Morenatsu's 2ch freeware, silly. The others are all doujin games that are easily found on the right sites.
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>>135443615
Nice try but I already fell for that once.
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>>135443559
Open deck -> hit edit on bottom left -> format -> tabs
I meant production tab btw, should be obvious which to delete
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>>135443679
Did you really?
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>>135443634
>Morenatsu
Is it that furry shit? I feel like I'm going to throw up.

But thank you very much for the information, I really appreciate. I thought Morenatsu was some visual novel database that had links to buy visual novels.
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>>135443301
Download rikai and hover it over the first set of kanji
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I'm following this mangaka on twitter and sometimes he'll tweet a bunch of times, and then write one last tweet that just says 「では。」

The nips seem to think it's funny. But what exactly does he mean by posting just that?
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>>135443797

Isn't it just like "peace niggas"?
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>>135428933
what program is this
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>>135443865

wanikani
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>>135443797
You can usually think of it as では失礼します
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>>135443775
I have rikai but I don't understand what "throwing a pickoff attempt" is supposed to imply.
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>>135443689
Thank you!
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>>135428583
JLPT matters if you need the language on your resume. Nobody gives a fuck how well you think you speak the language. JLPT = badge on your resume, and valuable for that only.
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>>135443888
That is not a language issue.
>>>/sp/
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>>135443888

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickoff
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>>135443858
>>135443883
Interesting, well that does make sense. Thanks.
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>>135443994
I already tried reading that article, it's just gibberish to me, I don't understand any of the baseball terminology, I can't visualize any of it.

Could someone just tell me how the Japanese use this expression in figurative language?
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Not enough new people using the Yotsuba reading pack. Shaking my god dang head.
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>>135444082
Probably because they don't want to read boring shit like Yotsubato.
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>>135444082
I just downloaded it last weekend bb. Thank you.
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>>135444161
>announcing reports

Enjoy your ban kiddo.
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>が and は have no direct English translation
>therefore, I will now demonstrate the difference using a series of sentences that are identical in English

I wonder if Japanese is even actually hard, or if every author of Japanese learning material is just retarded
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>>135444045
You can't learn Japanese unless you understand baseball.
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>>135444045
Maybe you should learn the rules of baseball then. There's nothing about Japanese to be taught here
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>>135444333
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>>135444317
Even the nips don't know what the rules are for は and が. Just watch anime until you get a native understanding of them
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get attempt
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>>135444082
I failed to comprehend the very first page of yotsuba, so I gave up and will try again at a later date
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>>135444415
I don't know what anime you watch, but no sub I've ever seen is true enough to the original Japanese to do that.

Unless you know enough Japanese to not need subs, but then, you don't have business studying basic shit like that anyways.
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>>135444161
I'm going to crush you.
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>>135444415
>Even the nips don't know what the rules are for は and が.
It's actually just that what they mean is really context dependent and variable
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>>135444415
I thought they were just used interchangeably. At least, it doesn't sound weird when spoken.
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>>135444455

I'm having the same problem. Been trying to translate panel 3 for about an hour with no luck. Any ideas?
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>>135444317
I almost forgot:

>one is the topic marker, and the other is the subject marker
>please ignore the fact that you don't know what these two phrases mean either
>please ignore that these two phrases mean completely different things when talking about English
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Do you guys think learning 20 new words a day while studying grammar on the side (at a slow pace) is reasonable to learn Japanese?
I can't devote more than 2 hours a day to studying it.
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>>135444660
you know what I meant
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>>135444844
20 words a day is a great pace, you'll have the Jouyou kanji down within a year or so. In fact, it's even fairly fast, considering.
Don't neglect grammar though. Reading practice (and listening) is THE MOST important aspect of learning Japanese. Do not just cruise on anki for a long time while piddling through Tae Kim or what have you. Be diligent and study grammar properly so you can get into reading.
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>>135444800
Makes sense to me.
は is for setting a topic, が is for talking about subjects within that topic.
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中出しの喜びが感じたいなぁ
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>>135444977
教えてくれるよ;)
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>>135444966
It makes sense to you only because it's a verbalization of something you already understand.
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>>135444910
Thanks for the heads up. I started with the 2k_6k deck a month ago and I admit having neglected grammar a little bit.
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>>135445080
Aren't you reading and understanding the example sentences?
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>>135445044
>教えてくれる
>くれる
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>>135445124
I forgot how to say it ;_;
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>>135445168
ください?
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>tfw can watch Precure without subs
Feels good.
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>>135445190
I wanted to say, "I'll teach you". It's some form of てくれる but I forget.
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>>135445107
I don't understand all the kanji and grammar expressions yet, but yes, I usually try to read them
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>>135445074
Do you need a visualization or something? は is a net. が is attached to the items inside the net.
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>>135445220
あげる?
Isn't くれる regarding having someone do something for you?
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>>135445205
>actually watching precure
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>>135445220
教えてやろうぜ
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馬の骨
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>>135445388
>Not liking precure
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>>135445434
>>135445388
>discussing precure
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>>135445434
>watching anime aimed at 5 year olds
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>>135443689
Different anon

i can't seem to find the format button?
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How trustworthy is /a/'s DJT.
has any of you made any significant process because of this thread?
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>>135445523
Me!

Anki has helped a lot actually
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>>135445568
>he fell for the Anki meme
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>>135445613
では
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>>135445613
>fell for the anki meme and can now speak both the kansai and kanji dialects fluently
I think things worked out pretty well.
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>not learning German to read Japanese VNs
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>>135445659
It's close enough to English we don't need to worry.
>The something has already begun
Yeah.
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>>135445523
I know less Japanese now than before I came here
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>>135445797
This also happened to me.
Fuck this place.
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>>135445522
Wait, I just flipped them.

Thanks!
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>>135445355
>>135445420
Thank you both. Not at fluent production just yet
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>>135443858
Imagine a butler with the speech quirk of saying "Now then." instead of "Excuse me."; now imagine that he decided to cut off the "Now" and just say "Then." and bow and walk away instead.

That's what では registers like to me.
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>>135446453
Problem with your explanation:
では sounds natural.
"Then." sounds retarded.
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世の中に “絶対” はない……そう思っていた時期が俺にもありました。特に料理はスキルの差が出やすいジャンルで、上級者ならまだしも、料理慣れしていない人にとっては、失敗は付き物といえるだろう。だがついに……。

"In this world there are few certainties, even I feel this way sometimes. Especially when there is a difference in cooking skill, concerning experienced people or rather inexperienced people, its something that can be said to come with mistakes. However finally.."

What does 特に料理はスキルの差が出やすいジャンルで、上級者ならまだしも、料理慣れしていない人にとっては、失敗は付き物といえるだろう。 mean?
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>>135446504
It's a butler so everything he says sounds natural.
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>>135446504
It only sounds retarded because you're not used to it.

t. language purist who hates the "new" version of his own language.
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>>135446707
Yeah, but EVERYONE is not used to it. Therefore, until 50 years passes and everyone is saying "then" as a complete standalone statement, it's retarded.
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>>135446893
So let's start using it.

Then.
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>>135446936
Case.
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>>135428152

Can you guys recommend any anki decks that are for remembering kanji?

I'm using Core6K atm, but I feel like it would be good to have a deck like that but instead of getting the English word and remembering the Japanese one, you get the Japanese word written in the proper way, and have to recall the meaning in English. Does anyone know of a deck like this?
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>finish reps literally 5 minutes before new day
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>>135446991
wanikani
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>>135446991
You can edit the format to do it yourself, check the anki manual for instructions
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>>135428152
Could some please please help me with this?

ふん。それを見た奴の話では、強固な魔法の守りがあるため、正当な所有者以外は触れることすら できないという話だ。
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>>135447097
According to the guy who saw it there's a powerful charm preventing anyone but the rightful owner from even touching it
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>>135447058
You have your days set up in a dumb way then.
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>>135447185
ANON君はとてもやさしいです。大好きです。ありがとう。 (^-^)
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>>135447284
Smart way. If it's set to 23 hours after midnight, I'm forced to do them shortly after waking up, preventing an age-old problem of spending all day procrastinating.
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跋扈
>two new kanji in one go
feels good
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>>135447097
>see this
>所有者 huh, owner
>read next line of book
>劣悪な遺伝子の所有者に子を生む資格はなく、劣等人種を淘汰することによって人類の質的向上をはかるべきだとの意見が勢力を増した。
>wow 所有者 again
I love coincidences like these
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>>135447451
Are you >>135447413 as well?
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is there any site with japanese songs for kids? songs with really easy japanese
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>>135447348
>having no self discipline
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>>135447501
youtube
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>>135447501
Japanese Pod 101
Check the COR -- they might be there (not just the JPod folder, but in the listening section).
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How do I use a text hooker with Yotsuba?
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>>135447479
Yeah. I have to admit the fib though, I already had 跋扈 in my anki deck from something I read on 2015-09-29. Didn't see it yet though.
>>135447567
It's just convenient to not need to exhibit self discipline.
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>>135447623
Just download the reading packs, breh.
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>>135446559
>特に料理はスキルの差が出やすいジャンルで
Cooking in particular is genre where skill makes a lot of difference
>理はスキルの差が出やすいジャンルで、上級者ならまだしも、料理慣れしていない人にとっては、失敗は付き物といえるだろう
Failure is a given, maybe not for advanced practicitioners, but at least for people with little experience cooking.

Something like that is the gist of it I think.
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>>135447623
It has furigana so just type the words out
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I finished Flyable Heart. I did my reps early and prepared myself to read all night until I finished, but it ended up only taking 2 hours. Now I have such a weird feeling, because I've been reading it every day for 11 months but now it is over.

Girls: Yui > Suzuno > Amane > Mayuri > Sakurako > Kururi
Routes: Yui > Suzuno > Mayuri > Amane > Sakurako > Kururi

None of them are bad though. I loved them all in the end.

SPOILERS
I was pissed that you can't win the water gun event or the zombie event. I was really expecting Suzuno's route to let you win.

I don't understand why Suzuno was there. She says she went back in time to save Shou because the explosion sends him to another world, but isn't that caused by her being there? And if in his original time he got exploded into another world, Kururi would never know him, so why would she try to save him later? Either I am missing something or it is just a time travel plot and I'm not supposed to understand.

So, Shou knew Suzuno in the future, but never talked to her about what happened? He just waited until after she went back in time? That guy has some serious patience and self control.

Overall, the ending didn't live up to my expectations, but I don't know if that's because I misunderstood something or because it wasn't explained well. I think I need to replay the very beginning since it has been so long and I don't remember everything. Apparently Suzuno was that fortune teller at the beginning too, so I need to read what she says again.
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>>135447657
Are those in CoR?

>>135447680
I'd rather not, if I can avoid it.
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>>135447763
>I'd rather not
Sorry bub, but if you read manga that's what you have to do. Using OCR - texthooking is impossible - is actually slower than typing yourself. So, it's best to get over yourself and type out the words.
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>>135447763
Yes, it is just called "Reading pack 1 and 2" -- it doesn't mention Yotsuba, but that's what it is.
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>>135447723
Congratulations anon. What are you planning to read next?
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>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA91NWrda6esIBGlFL7MhjQ
Spook stories with nice (female) narration
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>>135447664
Even if yo know the grammar structures this seems really hard to translate. What's the key?
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>>135448120
I honestly don't know. This language is just fucked.
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>>135447940
Thanks.
I am going to start Flyable Candyheart soon. After that I was thinking of reading the Tokeijikake no Ley Line series because it is made by mostly the same people as Flyable Heart.

I bought a new hard drive a couple weeks ago, but I was scared to install it because if I screwed up my computer, I wouldn't be able to finish FH in time. Now I can finally install it, probably tomorrow.
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Is this supposed to be a hi?
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>ヤンは黒い髪、黒い目、中肉中背の体躯[#表示不能に付き置換え]を持つ二九歳の青年で、軍人というよりは冷静な学者といった印象を与える。
So I saw #表示不能に付き置換え and thought "what?" and investigated the scans to see what was in the actual book. Instead of 体躯 it was 体軀. I wondered why they couldn't - or didn't - they put that in the .txt version (maybe it's super old and from before shift-JIS became standard) and why the heck did the author use 体軀? These questions ended up being more or less explained on this wiki page:
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/機種依存文字
LOGH sure is a learning experience. Now to decide whether or not to add 軀 to kanjigrid. I wonder if it will even appear on kanji grid.
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>>135448233
Yes
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>二九
>2 9 huh, must mean 29
>18
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>>135448233
What are you? Blind?
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>>135448331
No. That's not how I was taught to write it.
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>>135448254
The computer implementation of kanji was quite the affair. 幽霊漢字 is an interesting example.
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>>135448418
wwwwwwww
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>>135448422
*幽霊文字
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>>135447069

Oh, yeah. Maybe I'll just write a script that switches them, if the format is simple enough.

Will post here if I end up doing it.
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What does this mean? Is he stuttering and saying a-aitsu yo, or is it a long aaa sound followed by itsu yo, as in "when use"?
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>>135448509
aa followed by a short pause followed by aitsu
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http://exhentai.org/g/291685/82199ffcda/

How would I find from which book I can get the untranslated of this? gallery doesn't say anything about it
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Are there any Japanese games on steam? If so, what are some good ones?
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>>135428152
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>>135449027
That's about as hideous as things can get.
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>>135449027
I still can't tell if that picture is real or photoshopped
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>>135449027
>liking filthyfrank
Please kill youreself
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>>135448960
Skyrim and Fallout 4 have full Japanese audio and subtitles. Hella convenient, and high quality too.
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>>135449027
Sweet jesus change your anki format if you actually want to learn Japanese
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>「ですが、まだ包囲網が完成されたわけではありません」
Apparently, this is impolite language to use to a superior (rank in the military). The nuance of keigo is truly fearsome to see.
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>>135449115
nice upside down monitor
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>>135449175
He isn't using keigo though?
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>>135449181
what?
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>>135449255
Forgive me, teineigo.
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>せっかく均したのに荒らさないで。
I can't even understand the basic gist of this. What the hell does this say?
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>>135449115

教えてくれアノン先輩
そのアンキ構成
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>>135449351
Nevermind. I got it.
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Were those ebooks from the last thread saved and added to the Cornucopia?
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>>135449442
If not, I can re-upload them for you lovely people ;)
But yeah, I'm sure they were.
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>>135449351
Don't disrupt this thing even though I just made it even/smooth. <---my guess
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>>135449442
What ebooks?
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>>135449489
>;)
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>>135449083
You know not everyone subscribes, likes, follows the twitter account, and adds as a friend on myspace every youtuber they come across.

Some of us know absolutely nothing about these people except for often a single video.

I really don't care about filthy frank either way, but whenever I see things like this almost unanimously being hated on 4chan it really looks suspicious that some faggots here probably know them a lot more intimately than they want anyone to believe.
and then they'll insult someone who knows nothing about them but a single video or something.
It's kind of funny I guess. I can't be the only one who thinks this whenever people hate things on 4chan
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>>135428529
Stop forcing this terrible meme.
You have shit taste in both porn and catch phrases.
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>>135449543

http://www.mediafire.com/folder/z0s8hsr2m4vuc

https://mega.nz/#F!zw0UlQSL!ybu15LrNBg-jCYLVF_Vw_A
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>>135449175
Looks pretty okay to me. Certainly nothing outrageously rude. I don't know the context, but I'd venture a guess that the reason he was reprimanded (which I assume he was based on your post) was for trying to say something that went against what his superior said, and not because of the language he used.

>do that shit
>but sir, the preparations are not yet complete
>how dare you defy my orders?

Or something like that.
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>>135449115
How?
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>>135447185
Thanks
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>>135449724
You must know if you managed to make your deck look that shitty.
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>>135449666
I personally just hate internet pseudo-celebrities by default and by extension despise people who knowingly help to promote them.
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>>135428572
Doing both at the same time can eliminate that.
Have you heard of Listening-Reading?
http://users.bestweb.net/~siom/martian_mountain/!L-R/!%20L-R%20the%20most%20important%20passages.htm
A backup of the readers, audio, etc. of the Japanese and English content from that site can be found in the CoR for quick download.
https://mega.nz/#F!EMpAyToL!zvcXRz4Yq_n-SRifJpXsEw
I'm going to take advantage of things like the Harry Potter books/texts which already have full audio prepared, when I can read them at a decent pace to easily be able to keep up with the audio.
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>>135449723
Quote Yan after that line:
>ヤンはごく温和な口調で応じたが、考えてみればこれは上官に対してかなり無礼な応答であったかもしれない
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>>135449829
I just downloaded it from the guide desu
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>>135449374
>>135449724
Click on deck, study, edit, change format.
I didn't respond earlier 'cuz I kind of glossed over the Japanese. I saw "教えてくれ" and thought it was something about the earlier talk about that. Anywho, the format I use is a pretty standard variation of the Core2k format.
http://pastebin.com/RsjXJqHW will probably work.
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What is the significance of The earth character (土) with the lid radical on top of it (亠) seen in characters like 青, 静, and 積. I see it so often that I start to think that its a character that I forget.
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>>135450018
But that radical isn't used in that kanji at all. Look at the stroke order
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>>135449920
You're a doll! Thank you!
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>>135450161
Meant for
>>135449988
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>>135450104
Its not written like its using those radicals but I dont know what else it could be.
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>>135449893
Nothing there contradicts what I said. 無礼 doesn't imply the lack of courtesy is specifically in the use of language.

The line in question had no reference in it to the speaker or to Yang, nor to any action practiced by either of them, nor to any object or person closely related to any of them. There was nothing in it which would provoke the need for humble or honorable language. Hence, using simply 丁寧語 like he did was completely appropriate. I'm sure Yang had some good reason to think the guy was being impolite, but I'm confident it's not his use of keigo.

Maybe he was a bit by saying 完成されたわけではありません because of that わけ sort of implying Yang should already know that, thus overstepping his duty to simply report that information to Yang as it is. He could have simply said まだ包囲網が完成されていません. But that's not a matter of keigo and I might be reading too much into it.
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>>135450161
>>135450203
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>>135450249
I wasn't contradicting you. Just adding more information.
The reason I considered it a language problem was because his superior was speaking to him in a really formal keigo rather than teineigo. Also, this is Yan speaking to his superior, not someone speaking to him.

Really, I don't have any investment in this discussion, I meant politeness levels in general in Japan as expressed through the nuance of language is fearsome, not necessarily literally keigo/teineigo.
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>>135450241
Wiktionary is good for this stuff.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E9%9D%92
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>>135450328
It's not written like that but according to jisho they are the radicals 亠 and 土.

http://jisho.org/search/%E9%9D%92%20%23kanji

Anyway I think he was trying to ask if there was a separate character like the combined radical there, but there doesn't seem to be.
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>>135450313
>Also, this is Yan speaking to his superior
Then it's just Yang chastising himself on how he shouldn't be voicing his uncalled for opinions to his superiors.

Also, teineigo is a form of keigo. They're usually divided in 丁寧語, which is just normal politeness (essentially ます/です), and then the more ceremonious 尊敬語 and 謙譲語. Anyway, it's really not half as "fearsome" or full of "nuance" as people sometimes make it out to be.
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>>135439703
NEETs aren't successful, that's why we are on 4chan.
You can scrounge up fluency in Japanese but at the end of the day you're still a failure like the rest of us.
Normalfags might take a while to reach a decent level of proficiency but most of us here only have Japanese. These other fags have social security and financial security and will likely use those language skills for economic purposes.
I don't really hold these things as being great things for humanity but the fact is that society does and always has.
How we define ourselves hold no relevancy to the rest of the world and unfortunately language and meaning is enforced by mob rule on a memetic level, not a rational one.
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>>135450439
>according to jisho they are the radicals 亠 and 土.
Jisho supposedly uses the kanjivg data for radicals, which if you check the master version, doesn't qualify that top part as anything but some separate strokes. https://raw.githubusercontent.com/KanjiVG/kanjivg/master/kanji/09752.svg

I have no idea where jisho got those radicals from.

Wiktionary is much better for looking up composition anyways, use it as your first resource.
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>>135450439
Someone on DJT a while back said this, but I'm not sure how accurate it is

They said that radicals and stroke order aren't really consistent across sources. There is no real system of radicals or strokes, and that's probably why at best they should be used as mnemonics and not taken too seriously.
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