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I watched Steins;Gate and I don't really get why it appealed to people as much as it did. Can you explain it?
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>>121306644
Characters are all extremely well-crafted and realistic, along with a realistic progression of relationships between all of them given their traits.
The time travel ideas are both original and they actually make sense, instead of dumb paradox-inducing nonsense like from Terminator. They clearly spent a lot of time researching how to do it and how it would best make sense.
Animation and art are all beautiful, all the girls are best girls, music is pretty good, and everything is fun to watch and rather compelling.
What's not to like?
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>>121306828
>Characters are all extremely well-crafted and realistic

Disagree here, the rest is correct
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>>121306828
>The time travel ideas are both original and they actually make sense
Wrong. Babby's first time travel. It's not original, and the concept is badly executed.
>Animation and art are all beautiful, all the girls are best girls, music is pretty good, and everything is fun to watch and rather compelling.
What's not to like?
Animation and art are all shit, all the girls are shit girls (except Mayuri), music is pretty shit, and everything is painful to watch. What's to like?
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>>121306893
what isn't realistic?
>>121306907
pic related
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>>121306828
I don't really see Okabe as realistic. Actually I don't think any of the girls would latch onto him or Daru's "mad scientist club" either so I don't see that as realistic either.

Also, the art close up looks nice but gets lazy from medium distance like most anime
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>>121306907
I bet you're one of those guys who rare everything a 6.5/10 because they want to be seen as edgy and having better taste than the rest
Also you're wrong taru is best girl
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>>121306983
Something that disagrees with a popular opinion can be assumed to be bait. Therefore anyone who calls Naruto shit is also baiting, no matter how right they are.
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>>121306907
>>121306983
FUCK I fell for it
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>>121306644
>The time travel ideas are both original and they actually make sense
>The metal oopa caused WWIII
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>>121307032
But anon, Naruto is pretty alright, except for the tons of filler but just skip it
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>>121307045
Meant to quote >>121306828
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>>121307045
Guess what? Sometimes in real world scenarios ridiculous things can happen, like Dubbya really did choke on a pretzel
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>>121307038
No you didn't. This topic is not trolling. I really want to know people's opinions.
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>>121307000
did you see the movie? because it explains a lot about his character and why he acts the way he does
and don't forget, it wasn't just him and Daru, Mayuri kind of normalized them a lot and was fairly charismatic towards making others feel welcome
>>121307032
no, something that disagrees on almost everything despite nearly universal acclaim is bait
>>121307090
butterfly effect, nigga
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>>121307005
I'd rather be seen as edgy than as someone who blindly gargles popular shit without having ever seen anything actually good and thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread. Step up, pleb.
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>>121307090
Reality has a shit writer. Worst show ever.
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>>121307140
>pleb
>2015
confirmed elitest autist who watches obscure high school yuri romance shit with no subs
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>>121307135
>Mayuri kind of normalized them a lot and was fairly charismatic towards making others feel welcome
I was counting her among the girls who wouldn't latch onto their club. Really I don't think Mayuri is realistic either. She's more airheaded than anyone I've ever met.

>did you see the movie?

Nah just the series
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>>121307135
>nearly universal acclaim is bait

Steins; Gate has nearly universal acclaim? Anime was in a bigger hole in 2008 than I thought
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>>121307135
>despite nearly universal acclaim
Just because you ignore any criticism as "bait" doesn't mean it isn't there.
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>>121307199
except she and okabe were childhood friends and the loss of her grandmother forced Okabe to become this character to keep her around. You should really see the movie, it makes a lot more sense.
And she is pretty airheaded, but she's been shown to think a bit more deeply than "Tendies" a few times
>>121307228
>2008
>steins;gate came out in 2011
>>121307273
>criticism
>"Animation and art are all shit, all the girls are shit girls (except Mayuri), music is pretty shit, and everything is painful to watch."
That's not criticism, that's just calling things shit. Criticism is actually going into why things are shitty.
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>>121307329
Sounds like the movie should have been before the series
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>>121307393
The movie follows Kurisu as she tries to figure out how to ground Okabe and the last worldline from the show, which requires her going into the past at some point.
I think the timing was fine, but I should probably do a rewatch soon.
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>>121307329
People did say way though. This is /a/, not a literature class. You can't expect a long point by point critique of something. Well Meduca or Eva maybe.
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>>121307516
>way
why
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>>121306644
Don't try and fight the grain
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>>121306644
It's actually simple. Shit taste
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>>121307516
>people did say why though
>"shit shit shit shit shit, painful"
and don't forget mememememememe
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I don't get the realistic character statement at all. They all seem like extremes, almost like Eva, only without the psychoanalysis.

Okabe: paranoid schizophrenic but somehow switches into sane mode when people begin dying (hint: this does not happen to real paranoid schizophrenics)
Daru: most extreme stereotype of an otaku I've seen used as a "real" character and not just background fodder for jokes, and yet somehow we're to believe he gets married and has kids
Chris: Geniusgirl who will somehow easily believe any pseudo-scientific nonsense you throw at her
Mayuushii: Totally naive, innocent and SMILEPROTECTY girl; no girl is like this once she's past 10 or so
M4: Deranged hyper-nerd girl who latches onto the first Internet personality to give her any attention and will kill for him
Feyris: A person who talks like a cat all the time. NO.
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>>121307819
Faris isn't just someone who talks like a cat, she is apparently somehow the person who is solely responsible for the entirety of moe in Akiba. Super realistic.
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Consider the type of person Steins;Gate appeals to.
>>121306828
This guy literally appraises works on the quality of their 'time travel ideas'.
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>>121308053
Yeah the more people talk about it the less I believe that 'realistic' line at all.
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>>121306828
>Characters are all extremely well-crafted and realistic
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i dunno about the anime but the game was godly
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>>121307819
>okabe
He's not a paranoid schizoid, see the fucking movie and quit quoting your middle school psych teacher. He's having fun with friends, then shit gets tense and he drops his goofy act.
>Daru
he just quotes anime and shit, that's not very extreme, and he's been shown to be more than that if you actually watched the show
>KURISU
Except she didn't until they showed her and were able to explain it in a rational way, watch the goddamn show
>Mayuri
she's been shown to have more personality, which you would notice if you watched the show
>Moeka
extreme loner who was about to kill herself until she finally got some attention and was shown to obviously be a goddamn psycho with her extreme and unhealthy devotion to FB
>Feyris
owns a maid cafe and plays around with people, also major celebrity
>>121308053
she started a maid cafe, making them popular, making others want to make maid cafes
>capitalism
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>>121306644
It was a 7/10 show that got way too hyped up by shit like reddit and MAL.

Okabe is really the only well developed character, the first half of the show is slow as fuck because it's a VN adaptation, it lost the art style of the VN in exchange for some typical anime style, and the ending was just some next level bullshit.
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>>121306644
If you watched the dub, try the sub
If you watched the sub, try the dub

everyone who likes one absolutely hates the other
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>>121308168
okabe is to silly in the sub
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>>121308131
So what you're saying is that since she didn't make the first maid cafe, fucking no one in the entire city would have made it and experience the same capitalist success? Believe it or not, very few ideas are unique to one person. More often than not there are multiple people working on the same thing, and it's just a race to see who gets it done first to make bank on it.
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Only played the VN and it was very good. But I've seen some scenes from the anime and it looked pretty lackluster to me, animation looked like shit and the voice acting was crap compared to the VN. So I recommend everyone to read it instead of watching it
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>>121306828
I totally loved Steins;Gate, but the last words I'd use to describe it and explain why I liked it are "realistic" and "make sense".

It's as if you used those for TTGL, really.
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>>121308221

But that other place (I want to say Nakano) got there first and became the center of gravity and drew all the otaku tourists.
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>>121308131
I'm not buying it, anon. Not really a great strategy to accuse someone who watched it of not watching it to convince them.
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>>121308221
her dad, who was a major businessman, had more interests in investing in technology firms than maid cafes, spreading more technology firms
>>121308302
oh so you're pulling comparisons out of your ass
lemme try
>death note is realistic
>just like 5 centimeters per second
>>121308329
clearly you were fingering your ass to the thought of Ruka plowing you to actually pay attention to what you were seeing
it's not my fault you didn't actually take in what you were watching from more than the absolute surface layer half way through the show
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>>121308420
>Steins Gate wuz 2deep 4 u
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So is this good or shit?
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>>121306644
i enjoyed it, not particulary good but i'd give it 7/8 out of 10
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>>121308420
You missed the point of the comparison, but it's not surprising since you're clearly an idiot.
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>>121308682
I get the comparison, that doesn't mean it hasn't been completely removed from your own anus
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I feel like a lot of people latched onto it because of the atmosphere of the locales and being in Japan. People who don't really care about that and are in it more for action or intrigue would have a harder time liking it. I think it would've done better as a 13 ep series since it does seem to drag a lot, especially early on when there's very little conflict.
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Who gay here?
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>>121308502
It's definitely shit, same as every VN adaptation I presume.
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The ending was really obvious and not very good.
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>>121308884
yooo
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>>121306828
They actually used real research and theories and references to actual events regarding time travel experimentation really well done enjoyed every second of it
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>>121308502
it was good, like everything White Fox has ever done
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>>121308884
hey
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>>121308869
>People who don't really care about that and are in it more for action or intrigue would have a harder time liking it.

I didn't expect any of that or even wanted it and I still thought it was mediocre.
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>>121309016
fuck off
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>>121308884
I'd like to know what he'd look like irl. They make it seem like he'd look exactly like a girl.
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Did you know its reddits favorite anime? That may help you answer the question
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>>121309102
he'd probably look like a girl
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>>121309069
Y u salty anon?
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>>121308984
why even wear the top, even when ruka's a girl it's not like there's anything there to cover
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My heart couldn't handle this moment.
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>>121308884
tfw i tought he was a girl until that episode were they say clearly it's a boy
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>>121309219
because it's adorable
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>>121309174
So...
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>>121309254
feyris deserved better in the show
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>>121309163
It would be shit either way. Knowing what reddit likes isn't going to get you any points either.
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>>121309317
sweet jesus
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>>121308869
I was in it for the time travel plot and enjoyable atmosphere
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>>121309317
That's just a girl dressed like a boy who looks like a girl.
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>>121309430
well Ruka is also a girl at one point
so
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>>121309496
The trap was disarmed for a few episodes
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>>121309651
I love you
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>>121309726
I-I love you too anon-chan
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Lol secondaries.
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>>121309850
s-stop anon-kun
so what if we like each other!
ba-ba-ba-ba-baka!
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>>121310003
W-w-what??
I didn't say anything about l-liking
You know you're just a d-dear companion
Baka
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>>121310081
b-but y-you said you l-l-
...loved...
me
baka! baka baka baka!
I should've never trusted you!
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I like where this thread is going
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>>121310193
B-b-but in a few episodes you'll be a guy again
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>>121310595
why does it matter, anon-kun?
if you love me as a girl, you'll love me as a guy!
I'm still the same person!
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It's shit.
I dropped it after 6 episodes, couldn't stand watching my Suzuha act like a retard.
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I just enjoyed the weird fiction aesthetic it had. The characters weren't realistic, but were entertaining. The dumb SoL episodes balanced out with the few suffering episodes pretty well
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>>121311353
Yes b-but it's weird a-and... I like girls
S-sorry anon-chan
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>>121311605
She gets better
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>>121306907
>except Mayuri
Rly dude?
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>>121313003
I-I can be a girl
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>>121313997
Fuck it anon let's kill Okabe and keep you a girl
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>>121307045
Have you ever heard about the butterfly effect?
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>>121315089
There was no butterfly effect involved there though
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>>121315089
Not him but butterfly effect is nonsense small stuff not even directly related to a later big event resulting in it anyway. Metal umpa had a direct and obvious result (setting off metal detectors at the airport and thus keeping the plane from crashing or whatever so the time machine paper didn't burn up)
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>>121315237
Well when they took away the oopa(a relatively insignificant object) the future changed radically so it's pretty similar
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>>121315237
>Metal Upa inside the folder triggered the metal alarm
>Nakabachi takes the folder near him during flight
>Fire in luggage area happens, nothing changes

>Non-metal Upa
>Doesn't trigger alarm
>Papers lost in fire
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>>121315389
Yeah, and that's not an example for the butterfly effect
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>>121315336
The butterfly effect is a legitimate scientific theory the smallest things can lead to the biggest events sometimes.
For example a rock falling can cause a landslide in some circumstances imagine taking away that rock before the landslide occurs and the result changes.
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>>121315466
See >>121315336

Put the factors in context and it should fit
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>>121315768
Meant to quote >>121315662
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>>121315662
That's not how I understand it. I understand it as no visible relationship being there, whereas one can easily see how a rock in the right place being removed would stop a landslide if that rock was meant to fall 12 hrs later and it would trigger a chain reaction that led to a landslide.

From my understanding, butterfly effect would be you go back in time 4 days and accidentally step on a bug and then the future changes so that an earthquake destroys San Francisco
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>>121306644
Same reason people like Majora's Mask, or Groundhog Day, or Muv-Luv, or Madoka, I guess. There is an inherent futility in time loop plots.

>it all returns to nothing
>tumbling down tumbling down
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>>121306907
>music is shit
Fuck you
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The point of the metal upa is to make the show look silly and ridiculous, which it does many times even before that. Anyone watching the show who is not immersed will notice all kinds of ridiculous shit that harms the show and yet somehow the creators of the VN didn't see any problem with these. I guess the VN was meant to sort of be partially quirky humor and not as serious as some scenes in the anime try to be. Maybe it's due to no motion or not really being in a 'drama' format that allows this in the VN while when you try to put it into anime format, some scenes become far more emotionally charged and so having silly shit in there too just feels wrong.
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>>121315768
>>121315806
But the metal upa didn't cause in ww3 through a chain of seemingly random reactions. It just set off a metal detector, while the plastic didn't, no butterfly effect there.

Why am I arguing anyways, it's pedantic as fuck...
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>>121315880
Except in those they always break the loop.
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>>121314903
yes! yes anon-kun!
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>>121315833
I believe both your example and mine are examples of the butterfly effect. From what I know the butterfly effect refers to any small thing that has a big in influence on future events
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