I watched Steins;Gate and I don't really get why it appealed to people as much as it did. Can you explain it?
Characters are all extremely well-crafted and realistic, along with a realistic progression of relationships between all of them given their traits.
The time travel ideas are both original and they actually make sense, instead of dumb paradox-inducing nonsense like from Terminator. They clearly spent a lot of time researching how to do it and how it would best make sense.
Animation and art are all beautiful, all the girls are best girls, music is pretty good, and everything is fun to watch and rather compelling.
What's not to like?
>The time travel ideas are both original and they actually make sense
Wrong. Babby's first time travel. It's not original, and the concept is badly executed.
>Animation and art are all beautiful, all the girls are best girls, music is pretty good, and everything is fun to watch and rather compelling.
What's not to like?
Animation and art are all shit, all the girls are shit girls (except Mayuri), music is pretty shit, and everything is painful to watch. What's to like?
what isn't realistic?
I don't really see Okabe as realistic. Actually I don't think any of the girls would latch onto him or Daru's "mad scientist club" either so I don't see that as realistic either.
Also, the art close up looks nice but gets lazy from medium distance like most anime
did you see the movie? because it explains a lot about his character and why he acts the way he does
and don't forget, it wasn't just him and Daru, Mayuri kind of normalized them a lot and was fairly charismatic towards making others feel welcome
no, something that disagrees on almost everything despite nearly universal acclaim is bait
butterfly effect, nigga
I'd rather be seen as edgy than as someone who blindly gargles popular shit without having ever seen anything actually good and thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread. Step up, pleb.
>Mayuri kind of normalized them a lot and was fairly charismatic towards making others feel welcome
I was counting her among the girls who wouldn't latch onto their club. Really I don't think Mayuri is realistic either. She's more airheaded than anyone I've ever met.
>did you see the movie?
Nah just the series
except she and okabe were childhood friends and the loss of her grandmother forced Okabe to become this character to keep her around. You should really see the movie, it makes a lot more sense.
And she is pretty airheaded, but she's been shown to think a bit more deeply than "Tendies" a few times
>steins;gate came out in 2011
>"Animation and art are all shit, all the girls are shit girls (except Mayuri), music is pretty shit, and everything is painful to watch."
That's not criticism, that's just calling things shit. Criticism is actually going into why things are shitty.
The movie follows Kurisu as she tries to figure out how to ground Okabe and the last worldline from the show, which requires her going into the past at some point.
I think the timing was fine, but I should probably do a rewatch soon.
>people did say why though
>"shit shit shit shit shit, painful"
and don't forget mememememememe
I don't get the realistic character statement at all. They all seem like extremes, almost like Eva, only without the psychoanalysis.
Okabe: paranoid schizophrenic but somehow switches into sane mode when people begin dying (hint: this does not happen to real paranoid schizophrenics)
Daru: most extreme stereotype of an otaku I've seen used as a "real" character and not just background fodder for jokes, and yet somehow we're to believe he gets married and has kids
Chris: Geniusgirl who will somehow easily believe any pseudo-scientific nonsense you throw at her
Mayuushii: Totally naive, innocent and SMILEPROTECTY girl; no girl is like this once she's past 10 or so
M4: Deranged hyper-nerd girl who latches onto the first Internet personality to give her any attention and will kill for him
Feyris: A person who talks like a cat all the time. NO.
>Characters are all extremely well-crafted and realistic
He's not a paranoid schizoid, see the fucking movie and quit quoting your middle school psych teacher. He's having fun with friends, then shit gets tense and he drops his goofy act.
he just quotes anime and shit, that's not very extreme, and he's been shown to be more than that if you actually watched the show
Except she didn't until they showed her and were able to explain it in a rational way, watch the goddamn show
she's been shown to have more personality, which you would notice if you watched the show
extreme loner who was about to kill herself until she finally got some attention and was shown to obviously be a goddamn psycho with her extreme and unhealthy devotion to FB
owns a maid cafe and plays around with people, also major celebrity
she started a maid cafe, making them popular, making others want to make maid cafes
It was a 7/10 show that got way too hyped up by shit like reddit and MAL.
Okabe is really the only well developed character, the first half of the show is slow as fuck because it's a VN adaptation, it lost the art style of the VN in exchange for some typical anime style, and the ending was just some next level bullshit.
So what you're saying is that since she didn't make the first maid cafe, fucking no one in the entire city would have made it and experience the same capitalist success? Believe it or not, very few ideas are unique to one person. More often than not there are multiple people working on the same thing, and it's just a race to see who gets it done first to make bank on it.
Only played the VN and it was very good. But I've seen some scenes from the anime and it looked pretty lackluster to me, animation looked like shit and the voice acting was crap compared to the VN. So I recommend everyone to read it instead of watching it
I totally loved Steins;Gate, but the last words I'd use to describe it and explain why I liked it are "realistic" and "make sense".
It's as if you used those for TTGL, really.
her dad, who was a major businessman, had more interests in investing in technology firms than maid cafes, spreading more technology firms
oh so you're pulling comparisons out of your ass
>death note is realistic
>just like 5 centimeters per second
clearly you were fingering your ass to the thought of Ruka plowing you to actually pay attention to what you were seeing
it's not my fault you didn't actually take in what you were watching from more than the absolute surface layer half way through the show
I feel like a lot of people latched onto it because of the atmosphere of the locales and being in Japan. People who don't really care about that and are in it more for action or intrigue would have a harder time liking it. I think it would've done better as a 13 ep series since it does seem to drag a lot, especially early on when there's very little conflict.
>People who don't really care about that and are in it more for action or intrigue would have a harder time liking it.
I didn't expect any of that or even wanted it and I still thought it was mediocre.
tfw i tought he was a girl until that episode were they say clearly it's a boy
The trap was disarmed for a few episodes
so what if we like each other!
b-but y-you said you l-l-
baka! baka baka baka!
I should've never trusted you!
I just enjoyed the weird fiction aesthetic it had. The characters weren't realistic, but were entertaining. The dumb SoL episodes balanced out with the few suffering episodes pretty well
Fuck it anon let's kill Okabe and keep you a girl
Not him but butterfly effect is nonsense small stuff not even directly related to a later big event resulting in it anyway. Metal umpa had a direct and obvious result (setting off metal detectors at the airport and thus keeping the plane from crashing or whatever so the time machine paper didn't burn up)
>Metal Upa inside the folder triggered the metal alarm
>Nakabachi takes the folder near him during flight
>Fire in luggage area happens, nothing changes
>Doesn't trigger alarm
>Papers lost in fire
The butterfly effect is a legitimate scientific theory the smallest things can lead to the biggest events sometimes.
For example a rock falling can cause a landslide in some circumstances imagine taking away that rock before the landslide occurs and the result changes.
That's not how I understand it. I understand it as no visible relationship being there, whereas one can easily see how a rock in the right place being removed would stop a landslide if that rock was meant to fall 12 hrs later and it would trigger a chain reaction that led to a landslide.
From my understanding, butterfly effect would be you go back in time 4 days and accidentally step on a bug and then the future changes so that an earthquake destroys San Francisco
Same reason people like Majora's Mask, or Groundhog Day, or Muv-Luv, or Madoka, I guess. There is an inherent futility in time loop plots.
>it all returns to nothing
>tumbling down tumbling down
The point of the metal upa is to make the show look silly and ridiculous, which it does many times even before that. Anyone watching the show who is not immersed will notice all kinds of ridiculous shit that harms the show and yet somehow the creators of the VN didn't see any problem with these. I guess the VN was meant to sort of be partially quirky humor and not as serious as some scenes in the anime try to be. Maybe it's due to no motion or not really being in a 'drama' format that allows this in the VN while when you try to put it into anime format, some scenes become far more emotionally charged and so having silly shit in there too just feels wrong.
But the metal upa didn't cause in ww3 through a chain of seemingly random reactions. It just set off a metal detector, while the plastic didn't, no butterfly effect there.
Why am I arguing anyways, it's pedantic as fuck...
I believe both your example and mine are examples of the butterfly effect. From what I know the butterfly effect refers to any small thing that has a big in influence on future events