https://www.kickstarter.com/project s/1300298569/under-the-d

It's dead jim.

>>121117041
1. No one gives a shit about this project here.

2. Under the Dog is actually a pretty clever play on words.

>>121117041
>Under the dog

You are a really retarded person

>>121117147

Oh, I just slowpoked it and wondered why these things are allowed to exist.

Actually never mind, I just remembered that potato salad guy.

Lastly, what play on words are you talking about? Underdog? I have no idea. I'm ESL.

>>121117041
>Our enemy is the light of humanity
>anime about an antiterrorist force

THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE, ARE YOU WITH OR AGAINST HUMANITY?

>>121117328

BUT THE MORE LIGHT THERE IS THE BIGGER THE SHADOW

>>121117281
Yes, an "underdog" is usually someone at a disadvantage in a competition, and this could be the organization in this case. A phrase like "under the dog," which is meant to sound similar, can carry a meaning like being under the pressure of surveillance (watchdog) in a dystopian society, or maybe even being forced to choose where your loyalty lies (dogs are known for loyalty).

>>121117041
Bringing this shit up again.

Go find bitch about it on youtube or tumblr with all the other morons that bought into this crappy project.

>After a brief hiatus and silence from the project on the Kickstarter page, the team managing the UTD project, Creative Intelligence Arts (CIA) is announcing its departure from the UTD project and handing over the management of the project to Kinema Citrus. Hiroaki Yura and his company, CIA, spearheaded the overall production and Kickstarter campaign for UTD.

>“In order to comply with certain requests from members of the UTD creative team, and to deliver an unhindered product to our backers, CIA is hereby removing itself from the UTD project,” said Producer for UTD and CIA founder Hiroaki Yura.

Yeah, you're money is gone, you're probably not getting your OVA. LOL Kickstarter.

>>121117041
>more than 1 YEAR to make said episode
Well thats a fair amount of time for most kikestarter projects

https://archive.moe/a/thread/120984328/#q120984328

>>121117328
If I recall they're a pro-status quo organization not an anti-terrorist organization, that's just a cover.

>>121117616
Even if it does fail, I've had nothing but good things to say about what I've backed so far (15+ projects).

At the end of the day, can't win em all.

Kickstarter is at best a way to throw money at people with ideas in the hope that they produce something of value and manage to get it to market.

At worst it's the most effective method for scammers to find their victims that has ever been created.

I don't know why people buy into crowdfunding.

>>121117041
Well, you got kikescammed

>>121117616
That's hilarious.

Honestly saddening, they did this.

>>121117041
What were the crudentials of the people working on it?

>>121117457

But how is it a clever play on words?

Under the dog has no meaning. Is it hinting at beastiality? Is the dog the omnipresent organisation/entity that is oppressing the people and fucking them up the ass? It just sounds like shitty English to me.

They were all pricks. The writer bailed on them, the PR talked shit about other anime (GiTS for one). Let 'em rot and enjoy the Reddit tears.

>>121117776
It's actually a great way for established companies/creators to fleece their fans and have them be grateful for it.

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Donating fucking losers. Sankyuu for you support of the industry.

>>121117922
That works too of course, star citizen got millions.

And then there's that exploding cat game which is just beyond my understanding.

>>121117776
The idea of it is great. Instead of risking time and money in the hope that something will turn a profit after it's created, they can check interest and get the eventual sales beforehand. It's only because a lot of people who do use crowdfunding are shit at management and schedule that they inevitably run out of money before finishing.

>crowdfunding
What's the deal with this anyway? Sometimes I see reports on the news that people are trying to crowdfund for shit like medical/lawyer bills, and my immediate thought is SCAMSCAMSCAM.

>Reddit/Tumblr crowd wanted their own success story after LWA2
>lose hard on this
Top laughs.

>>121117909
>the PR talked shit about other anime (GiTS for one).
What did they say to something regarded as a gem to the anime community?

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>>121117616
they didn't fly so good

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>>121117616
>Creative Intelligence Arts (CIA)
>CIA

>>121118010
Well yes, in theory the concept of not having profit hungry investors constantly re-assessing your value is great for creativity, but even the honest projects don't have a great success rate.

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>>121117987
>148,710 backers
>$5,895,845
>pledged of $10,000 goal

>>121118043
Some people are desperate and or want easy money.
Some guy played a prank where he made a kickstarter for one bowl of potato salad. Apparently it spread through the internet and he gained several tens of thousands.
At least he made a pretty looking potato salad

>>121117973
Get out of here shit.

>>121118082
>>121118107
Fuck off

>>121118155
I remember that story too. I'm starting to think I should try to scam some rent/buyfag money from it somehow.

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>>121118192

What about the guy that started it to make potato salad and got $55,000... and by contract he had to use every dollar of it to make said potato salad.

>>121117457
The phrase "under the dog" doesn't really have a meaning besides its literal interpretation. "underdog" is an actual term that has nothing to do with being under a dog.

Making up phrases like "under the dog" only brings to mind the literal. Which in the case sounds stupid.

>>121118227
>4U flag

Perfect.

>>121118250
meant for
>>121117987

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>>121118067
I think he was talking about this, not really shit-talking but he does sound a bit full of himself

>>121118227
>Why does CIA have 4 letter Us in his flag?
Godamnit

>people actually give money to scamstarter

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>>121118168
Nice try. You can't trick me into thinking someone from here would have unironically "funded" this and be upset about the outcome. /a/ was right, right?

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>>121118319
>This is why the project is expensive and this is the way it should be.

>>121118294
>doesn't really have a meaning besides its literal interpretation.
That's so wrong though. Consider an expression like "under the weather," what does that mean? In this case, it's obvious the "dog" in the title is meant to refer to some kind of theme of conflict in the story.

>>121118294
Under the gun is already an idiom but I'm not sure why they changed gun to dog.

>>121118382
no, i mean Sayaka is shit.

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>say traditional production committees are the biggest problem in the industry
>get replaced by a traditional production committee

>>121118060

LWA2 only set $150,000 as goal too.

Kickstarter?

More like Shitstarter.

amirite

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>kojima says he is interested in seeing it
>the funding gets flooded
Stay classy kojimafags.

>>121117328
I sent them an email a while back asking about that. Aparrently the light of humanity is them describing the organization that the characters work for

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And for the record I only picked these pics up from previous threads.

>>121118456
You're finding meaning where there isn't any.

This project looks really stupid. Reminds me of generic shit anime like Canaan. It has everything that people who think anime is "cool" like. I'm not interested in it at all. Why has it raised so much $$$?

>>121118456
Except "under the weather" is actually a metaphorical, common phrase.

"Under the dog" is just nonsense/literal statement about spatial relations.

You seem like the kind of person who would get confused about sayings, as you don't seem to understand how they work.

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>>121118476
Daijoubu my tomodachi, I was just kidding. Sometimes we believe things will turn out for the better and they don't. I'm sure those who lost because of the pretense of security from a Japanese image will look more closely in the future, or not at all.

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>Our enemy is the light of humanity

>>121118587
Because of redditors thinking they were going to "save anime".

>>121118587
Suckers actually believed for this fool's lies >>121118478
>>121118319

and then this happened >>121118569

>>121118632

Trigger already did.

>>121118548
I doubt he actually gave them any money.

>>121118582
>you're wrong because I say so.
Ok.

>>121118592
Do you not know what "creative license" is? Where did I say "under the dog" was an actual common phrase?

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>>121118587

>>121118060

More like /v/ wanted to fund this and failed. They are pretty big on the whole casuals/normalfags taking over the industry thing, which is what Under The Dog was mostly about.

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Best part was that they started a paypal account right after the kickstarter deadline has been met and told the "saving anime" fans to continue support them through there.

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>>121118674
Only to kill it again.

How long does it usually take to make an original 30 minute OVA?

>>121118763
You gotta a single fact to back that up?

How long was this show going to be anyways?

>>121118776
At least a year for a decent one.

>generic sci-fi about spec ops agents, oh yeah so cool and bad ass
>oh yeah action and shooting, no moe, grimdark colors, so cool

How did people think that would save anime.
It looks so fucking generic.

If you want to save anime you have to make smart and original anime like Shirobako.

>>121118817

Twenty-four minutes.

normal anime episode takes 1 week with a good dose of QUALITY

So 3 weeks

>>121118774
Trigger giveth and Trigger taketh away

>>121118695
>Where did I say "under the dog" was an actual common phrase?

While you never said that you were comparing it to an actual saying.

Yes, the saying "under the weather" is not literal, because it is a saying.

"Under the dog" is not a saying, it's just a phrase. If a phrase isn't a saying, it doesn't have any inherent meaning besides its literal interpretation, INHERENT being the key word.

Nobody who reads it cares that the author had something different in mind, because the first thing that will jump to mind is literally being under a dog. Which is a sorry thing for an anime's title to bring to mind.

You can put as much careful thought and deliberation into an obtuse, silly title, but it will still be just that.

>Do you not know what "creative license" is?
That you can do whatever you want? Sure, but don't take that to mean you're not going to be made fun of when your show's title sounds like a bestiality flick.

>>121118695
>hurrdurr i abuse quote function argument refuted

Under the weather is a common phrase with a well understood meaning.

Under the dog does not mean anything, and can be interpreted in as many different ways as you feel like looking for.

Maybe it's about aliens from one of the stars in canis major?

The chinese consider dogs to be a symbol of friendship, so maybe it's about sticking up for your friends.

Maybe it's about loyalty, or hunting, or any number of other things related to dogs.

Any implications you draw from the title at this point are pure guesswork.

>>121118774

Little Witch Academia 2 will be good. Mark my words.

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>>121118871
>If you want to save anime you have to make smart and original anime like Shirobako.

this nikka knows it

>>121118944
>>121118946
You guys realize that there are other "under the" expressions besides weather right? You guys realize that animals are extremely commonly used in art and writing as symbols right?

Jeez, no wonder people on this board thought ME! ME! ME! was deep.

>>121118946
>>The chinese consider dogs to be a symbol of friendship

Then why do they eat them?

Checkmate, moetards

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>>121118946
Jupiter Ascending tried to start a Sci-Fi franchise with a half-canine protagonist. It was a gigantic flop.

>>121118871
Too colorful and not enough people getting blown up.

"le Trigger saving anime :^)" meme aside, the real question is whether we trust them to deliver on LWA2. Not just quality-wise but fulfilling all their promises with the rewards and everything.

>>121119075
>Jeez, no wonder people on this board thought ME! ME! ME! was deep.
So what was it anon?

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>>121119075
>Jeez, no wonder people on this board thought ME! ME! ME! was deep.

Because people like you wank over everything with any possible meaning behind it?

>You guys realize that there are other "under the" expressions besides weather right?

Yes, and "under the dog" is not one of them.

>>121119075
>Jeez, no wonder people on this board thought ME! ME! ME! was deep
I've only seen those people being mocked on /a/

>>121117832
"The guy who directed Sword of the Stranger wants to make an anime about high school girls shooting people"

>>121119095
beastiality doesn't pay.

>>121117041
>Under the Dog is bad english
>Hi guys I'm fucking retarded

They literally explain the title on the fucking Kickstarter page

>>121119095
It was a gigantic flop because it was boring as fuck.

>>121119136
Well they did just send out their surveys for rewards.
Furthermore they are a real studio, with veterans running the show, so they've been in better shape from the get-go. There haven't been many updates on the kickstarter page itself, but they claim to have been working on it in earnest since December, and have said that they will get it done by Spring.
They have real goals and the means to fulfill them. I'm willing to have a little faith

>>121119075
This guy makes a good point >>121118944
>Nobody who reads it cares that the author had something different in mind

Similarly nobody gives a fuck what Neon Genesis Evangelion or Ergo Proxy means because it sounds cool.

The point is that Under the Dog gives the reader a bad initial impression.
It sounds stupid as fuck. Nobody cares what it means.

>>121117328
>rebels and activists can't be laballed as terrorists by the government they stand against
The messages are gonna get preachy in UtD.

>>121119167

Symbolic not deep,you fucktard.

You probably think NGE is deep too, right?

>>121117616
They explicitly say in follow-ups that the project is continuing as planned. CIA leaving was only the cause of the lull period with no information coming out about the project.

ˈəndər T͟Hə dôg

phrase

1. when one is in a situation so disagreeable that they would wish to rather be "under the dog," a place of dishonor, misery, and filth, in order to escape their current state of affairs

>>121118871
b-but thas moeshit

>>121119369
Oh, this is bait, ok.

>>121119369
It kills me how often people mistake depth, symbolism and imagery.

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>>121119369
Oh boy

>>121117776
Under the Dog is an example of a safe Kickstarter funding, since it's a renowned and trusted studio behind the work, rather than some dude in his basement.
Kickstarter has a lot of conceptual reasons to dislike it, but criticizing it by using UtD as an example (by posting this in an UtD thread) is just short-sighted.

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>>121119435

No it's not. You're just retarded.

And if it was, why did would reply back?

>>121119260
Squawk the Quid.

phrase:

1. To perambulate a whiff of somalian spices 1.2 km.

2. To contrive a meaning for a phrase

noun:

1. (Quid-Squacker) Someone who contrives meaning for phrases.

2. (you) A complete faggot.

I believe they are squawking the quid with the title "under the dog."

So did UTD change the entire staff?

I want to start a kickstarter and become a NEET now.

This has been a good influence.

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>>121119410
Doujins when?

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>>121119504
Learn something fucking new every day.

>>121119504
Thanks, anon! Ill make sure to use this.

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>>121119504
Holy shit

>>121117616

Isn't the core staff still the same though?

>>121119504
top kek

>>121119559

Of the MC fucking a dog... not anytime soon hopefully.

>>121117776

A reminder about Kickstarter's Terms of Use:
https://archive.today/8PIcd#selection-585.0-585.47

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> All content you access through the Services is at your own risk. You’re solely responsible for any resulting damage or loss to any party.

Risky business, this Kickstarter stuff.

>>121119504
B T F O

>>121117041
>more than 1 YEAR
Jesus christ, it has been a year. Time flies really fast.

>>121118946
It just means beastiality, it's so grimdark that our female mc will be thrown into a cage full of dogs in heat.

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>>121119504

>>121119667

I don't understand why people would never give money to an unfinished project(especially one that's not refundable).

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>>121119175

Stop arguing with retards.

Just let them forget this so they can fawn over the new anime called "On Top of Your Mother".

>>121117616
I like how these guys went to KS so they didn't have to listen to publishers and whatnot and now they just leave, fucking hilarious.
Should have made a TV series when you got the offers.

>>121119686
>female mc will be thrown into a cage full of dogs in heat.
We should start a KS for doujins of that.

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>>121119504

Oh lawd, muh fucking sides.