>$580,000 goal ($878,028 raised) for one, ONE, 24min episode
>more than 1 YEAR to make said episode
>Obviously have people proficient in English working for you but still call your anime "Under the dog"
You fucking wot m8
Oh, I just slowpoked it and wondered why these things are allowed to exist.
Actually never mind, I just remembered that potato salad guy.
Lastly, what play on words are you talking about? Underdog? I have no idea. I'm ESL.
Yes, an "underdog" is usually someone at a disadvantage in a competition, and this could be the organization in this case. A phrase like "under the dog," which is meant to sound similar, can carry a meaning like being under the pressure of surveillance (watchdog) in a dystopian society, or maybe even being forced to choose where your loyalty lies (dogs are known for loyalty).
>After a brief hiatus and silence from the project on the Kickstarter page, the team managing the UTD project, Creative Intelligence Arts (CIA) is announcing its departure from the UTD project and handing over the management of the project to Kinema Citrus. Hiroaki Yura and his company, CIA, spearheaded the overall production and Kickstarter campaign for UTD.
>“In order to comply with certain requests from members of the UTD creative team, and to deliver an unhindered product to our backers, CIA is hereby removing itself from the UTD project,” said Producer for UTD and CIA founder Hiroaki Yura.
Yeah, you're money is gone, you're probably not getting your OVA. LOL Kickstarter.
Kickstarter is at best a way to throw money at people with ideas in the hope that they produce something of value and manage to get it to market.
At worst it's the most effective method for scammers to find their victims that has ever been created.
I don't know why people buy into crowdfunding.
But how is it a clever play on words?
Under the dog has no meaning. Is it hinting at beastiality? Is the dog the omnipresent organisation/entity that is oppressing the people and fucking them up the ass? It just sounds like shitty English to me.
Donating fucking losers. Sankyuu for you support of the industry.
The idea of it is great. Instead of risking time and money in the hope that something will turn a profit after it's created, they can check interest and get the eventual sales beforehand. It's only because a lot of people who do use crowdfunding are shit at management and schedule that they inevitably run out of money before finishing.
What's the deal with this anyway? Sometimes I see reports on the news that people are trying to crowdfund for shit like medical/lawyer bills, and my immediate thought is SCAMSCAMSCAM.
>Creative Intelligence Arts (CIA)
Well yes, in theory the concept of not having profit hungry investors constantly re-assessing your value is great for creativity, but even the honest projects don't have a great success rate.
>pledged of $10,000 goal
Some people are desperate and or want easy money.
Some guy played a prank where he made a kickstarter for one bowl of potato salad. Apparently it spread through the internet and he gained several tens of thousands.
At least he made a pretty looking potato salad
The phrase "under the dog" doesn't really have a meaning besides its literal interpretation. "underdog" is an actual term that has nothing to do with being under a dog.
Making up phrases like "under the dog" only brings to mind the literal. Which in the case sounds stupid.
I think he was talking about this, not really shit-talking but he does sound a bit full of himself
Nice try. You can't trick me into thinking someone from here would have unironically "funded" this and be upset about the outcome. /a/ was right, right?
>This is why the project is expensive and this is the way it should be.
>doesn't really have a meaning besides its literal interpretation.
That's so wrong though. Consider an expression like "under the weather," what does that mean? In this case, it's obvious the "dog" in the title is meant to refer to some kind of theme of conflict in the story.
>say traditional production committees are the biggest problem in the industry
>get replaced by a traditional production committee
>kojima says he is interested in seeing it
>the funding gets flooded
Stay classy kojimafags.
And for the record I only picked these pics up from previous threads.
This project looks really stupid. Reminds me of generic shit anime like Canaan. It has everything that people who think anime is "cool" like. I'm not interested in it at all. Why has it raised so much $$$?
Except "under the weather" is actually a metaphorical, common phrase.
"Under the dog" is just nonsense/literal statement about spatial relations.
You seem like the kind of person who would get confused about sayings, as you don't seem to understand how they work.
Daijoubu my tomodachi, I was just kidding. Sometimes we believe things will turn out for the better and they don't. I'm sure those who lost because of the pretense of security from a Japanese image will look more closely in the future, or not at all.
More like /v/ wanted to fund this and failed. They are pretty big on the whole casuals/normalfags taking over the industry thing, which is what Under The Dog was mostly about.
Best part was that they started a paypal account right after the kickstarter deadline has been met and told the "saving anime" fans to continue support them through there.
>generic sci-fi about spec ops agents, oh yeah so cool and bad ass
>oh yeah action and shooting, no moe, grimdark colors, so cool
How did people think that would save anime.
It looks so fucking generic.
If you want to save anime you have to make smart and original anime like Shirobako.
>Where did I say "under the dog" was an actual common phrase?
While you never said that you were comparing it to an actual saying.
Yes, the saying "under the weather" is not literal, because it is a saying.
"Under the dog" is not a saying, it's just a phrase. If a phrase isn't a saying, it doesn't have any inherent meaning besides its literal interpretation, INHERENT being the key word.
Nobody who reads it cares that the author had something different in mind, because the first thing that will jump to mind is literally being under a dog. Which is a sorry thing for an anime's title to bring to mind.
You can put as much careful thought and deliberation into an obtuse, silly title, but it will still be just that.
>Do you not know what "creative license" is?
That you can do whatever you want? Sure, but don't take that to mean you're not going to be made fun of when your show's title sounds like a bestiality flick.
>hurrdurr i abuse quote function argument refuted
Under the weather is a common phrase with a well understood meaning.
Under the dog does not mean anything, and can be interpreted in as many different ways as you feel like looking for.
Maybe it's about aliens from one of the stars in canis major?
The chinese consider dogs to be a symbol of friendship, so maybe it's about sticking up for your friends.
Maybe it's about loyalty, or hunting, or any number of other things related to dogs.
Any implications you draw from the title at this point are pure guesswork.
>If you want to save anime you have to make smart and original anime like Shirobako.
this nikka knows it
You guys realize that there are other "under the" expressions besides weather right? You guys realize that animals are extremely commonly used in art and writing as symbols right?
Jeez, no wonder people on this board thought ME! ME! ME! was deep.
Jupiter Ascending tried to start a Sci-Fi franchise with a half-canine protagonist. It was a gigantic flop.
"le Trigger saving anime :^)" meme aside, the real question is whether we trust them to deliver on LWA2. Not just quality-wise but fulfilling all their promises with the rewards and everything.
>Jeez, no wonder people on this board thought ME! ME! ME! was deep.
Because people like you wank over everything with any possible meaning behind it?
>You guys realize that there are other "under the" expressions besides weather right?
Yes, and "under the dog" is not one of them.
Well they did just send out their surveys for rewards.
Furthermore they are a real studio, with veterans running the show, so they've been in better shape from the get-go. There haven't been many updates on the kickstarter page itself, but they claim to have been working on it in earnest since December, and have said that they will get it done by Spring.
They have real goals and the means to fulfill them. I'm willing to have a little faith
This guy makes a good point >>121118944
>Nobody who reads it cares that the author had something different in mind
Similarly nobody gives a fuck what Neon Genesis Evangelion or Ergo Proxy means because it sounds cool.
The point is that Under the Dog gives the reader a bad initial impression.
It sounds stupid as fuck. Nobody cares what it means.
They explicitly say in follow-ups that the project is continuing as planned. CIA leaving was only the cause of the lull period with no information coming out about the project.
ˈəndər T͟Hə dôg
1. when one is in a situation so disagreeable that they would wish to rather be "under the dog," a place of dishonor, misery, and filth, in order to escape their current state of affairs
Under the Dog is an example of a safe Kickstarter funding, since it's a renowned and trusted studio behind the work, rather than some dude in his basement.
Kickstarter has a lot of conceptual reasons to dislike it, but criticizing it by using UtD as an example (by posting this in an UtD thread) is just short-sighted.
No it's not. You're just retarded.
And if it was, why did would reply back?
Squawk the Quid.
1. To perambulate a whiff of somalian spices 1.2 km.
2. To contrive a meaning for a phrase
1. (Quid-Squacker) Someone who contrives meaning for phrases.
2. (you) A complete faggot.
I believe they are squawking the quid with the title "under the dog."
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Risky business, this Kickstarter stuff.
>more than 1 YEAR
Jesus christ, it has been a year. Time flies really fast.
It just means beastiality, it's so grimdark that our female mc will be thrown into a cage full of dogs in heat.
Stop arguing with retards.
Just let them forget this so they can fawn over the new anime called "On Top of Your Mother".
I like how these guys went to KS so they didn't have to listen to publishers and whatnot and now they just leave, fucking hilarious.
Should have made a TV series when you got the offers.