Is it hypocritical that Monogatari lampshades the absurdity of incest fanservice while completely indulging in it?
Actually, does it lampshade its absurdity at all? Or is it just something faggots tell themselves, cause they can't admit to themselves they like an incest anime?
This, but also taking it too seriously in any manner, either in being offended or overinterpreting, is missing the point. It's included mostly as service and serves little story purpose outside of a joke. Getting too hung up about it is the shit manchildren and moralfags do.
Keep your tumblerified moral ethics on tumblr you fucking faggot.
You don't seem to know anything. Monogatari isn't an "anime". It's an adaption from a LN. And I can't really see anything wrong with incest in a LN or any other medium. Loads of works has it, it's not like feminists lose their shit over Game of Thrones, even though there is incest. Stop being so fucking double moral. It's typical SHAFT to do stories like this, and I love them for it. The only hypocritical ones are the people who blames Monogatari for being incestous.
I'll admit it right now, the reason I plan on watching the -gatari series is partly because of the incest. Only faggots like you said won't admit to themselves why they like certain things.
Who gives a shit?
I never heard that Monogatari was trying to criticize the whole incest thing in the first place.
I don't even find this kind of thing remotely unusual, there is an absurd amount of manga that focus on nothing but incest, and that's legit menga, not even going near the hentai world.
This is far from unusual in Nipland
>the fanservice is so extreme
If she thinks that is extreme, just wait until she discovers porn!
When you're comfortable around someone you know well, you can even make sexual jokes without it being particularly sexual. But murricans have been conditioned to think a male and a female being naked in the same space is "dirty and that they should feel ashamed about their bodies.
These Kotaku and ANN anime articles are literally clickbait and neo-/a/ falls for it every time. Please stop bumping these threads unless you want to attract the same kind of idiots that ruined /v/.
Is there anything more awkward than a guy calling himself a "feminist" and getting offended on behalf of women?
That article reeks of normalfag. Pathetic.
Japanese truly are the most advanced civilization.
Why are you talking about feminism and social justice? The article is talking about those things very very tangentially.
The extract/OP is talking about the effectiveness of using genre tropes while mocking them. It's not even talking about the problematic nature of fanservice, but the meaning when its used.
If any attempt at discussion at this level is really making /a/ run to the hills, covering your ears screaming 'LALALLAFOCKOFFFEMISMIZM', I have run out of places to talk about anime that aren't at a youtube/mal level.
Who the fuck cares? We've already talked about this.
Monogatari knows what it is and mocks itself for it. It fucking revels in it and that's perfectly fine. Shit like that article tries to delude themselves into thinking that the series is something more and thus tries to justify fun things being fun with convolutedly inconsequential bullshit.
sage for clickbait viral advertising
why are you on 4chan? the anonymous nature of the site means that the person behind the comment is taken out of the equation, all you can respond to is the comment. which virtually no-one in this thread is doing.
Nobody needs to respond to the comment because the sentiments behind it are obviously retarded. There's no reason for anybody to give a shit about whether or not the scene comes across more as being played straight vs being a parody because it's clearly meant to be both, and even if it wasn't, why would it ever matter? Again, the only person who would care is your average tumblrite who feels that fanservice, and, god forbid, depictions of incest, are somehow morally "wrong". That's why nobody is addressing your precious kotaku shit.
The article makes no sense. It criticizes the humor for being hypocritical when that's entirely the point, see >>120943550.
It's obvious the author found the fanservice problematic and then cooked up some half baked reason they didn't like it later.
>I didn't like x
>convince me my opinion is wrong
Yeah, no. That's not a discussion. Anyone old enough to post on this site should know there's no arguing with "stop liking what I don't like", assuming OP isn't just a troll and a faggot, which he probably is.
Monogatari after Bake is trash, it's already known
There's a point where a parody becomes the real thing; for example Wile E. Coyote, a parody of the chase cartoon sub-genre that became the new standard for the chase sub-cartoon genre. Or like a guy trying to parody homosexuality by sucking a dick. "It's not gay, I only did it for the laughs"
The problem here isn't feminism necessarily, it's that fanservice series like monogatari have been overrated and hyped by weaboos and mainstream "anime fans" who view anime as some kind of avant-gard artistic expression which has to be analyzed and critiqued to death to be appreciated.
The only people buying BDs of these shows, or staying up till otaku oclock to watch them, have already read the LNs and are primarily interested in what the anime can provide that the LNs can't, visual fanservice. It's pretty clear that the author of the article in OP's pic doesn't understand that, the way he seems to suggest that the fanservice was somehow unexpected or unfitting.
Wait. There are people who think the fanservice in Monogatari is anything but fanservice?
Just because some of those scenes are a little tongue in cheek or self aware doesn't mean they aren't supposed to make you horny.