Is it hypocritical that Monogatari lampshades the absurdity of

>>120943378
It's fanservice otaku pandering bullshit. Stop trying to analyze it.

>>120943422
Stop trying to analyze anything.

We already had this thread. It's just going to become a /pol/ thread again

>>120943422
This, but also taking it too seriously in any manner, either in being offended or overinterpreting, is missing the point. It's included mostly as service and serves little story purpose outside of a joke. Getting too hung up about it is the shit manchildren and moralfags do.

Japanese media is a very good break from the shitty steven universe and regular show I see on TV all the time.

>>120943378
Keep your tumblerified moral ethics on tumblr you fucking faggot.
You don't seem to know anything. Monogatari isn't an "anime". It's an adaption from a LN. And I can't really see anything wrong with incest in a LN or any other medium. Loads of works has it, it's not like feminists lose their shit over Game of Thrones, even though there is incest. Stop being so fucking double moral. It's typical SHAFT to do stories like this, and I love them for it. The only hypocritical ones are the people who blames Monogatari for being incestous.

>>120943378
No matter what someone makes or does. There's always going to be some pompous faggot over-analyzing it and finding something horribly wrong with it.

>>120943378
I'll admit it right now, the reason I plan on watching the -gatari series is partly because of the incest. Only faggots like you said won't admit to themselves why they like certain things.

>promote homosexuality/bestiality/trannies
>think pedosexuality & incest are evil

i don't get it

>>120943378
>Is it hypocritical

Yes, it's this thing called "humor".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-referential_humor

>>120943422
>>120943400

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Metropolitan_Ordinance_Regarding_the_Healthy_Development_of_Youths

I've been in a coma for the last 5 years
what's is up with young people are social issues?
Did they skip the history class that says that shit will be with us forever?

>>120943378

>family members taking a bath together is sexual

God bless Murrica

>>120943378
Who gives a shit?
I never heard that Monogatari was trying to criticize the whole incest thing in the first place.

I don't even find this kind of thing remotely unusual, there is an absurd amount of manga that focus on nothing but incest, and that's legit menga, not even going near the hentai world.

This is far from unusual in Nipland

We've already had our fair share of shitposting regarding this OP and that exact article. Just fucking check the archives and jerk yourself off there.

>>120943572
If you are like 5 and 6 nope
But it was pretty sexual anon

Is it absurd that these writers say titties are a good thing then call titties the devil every time they show up in anything?

>>120943582
This is from Kotaku, what do you expect?

>>120943509
I literally can't tell if this post is serious or not.

>>120943622
Is it now? So basically OP is a retarded faggot.
How careless of me to think otherwise.

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>>120943378
>that article
>the fanservice is so extreme

If she thinks that is extreme, just wait until she discovers porn!

>>120943602

When you're comfortable around someone you know well, you can even make sexual jokes without it being particularly sexual. But murricans have been conditioned to think a male and a female being naked in the same space is "dirty and that they should feel ashamed about their bodies.

>>120943378
Who wrote this shit?

>>120943771
Did you miss the part where they were going to kiss anon?

>>120943785
Probably a landwhale.

>>120943791

What's wrong with kissing?

>>120943791
Do you know mafia used to kiss their buddies ?

>>120943378
These Kotaku and ANN anime articles are literally clickbait and neo-/a/ falls for it every time. Please stop bumping these threads unless you want to attract the same kind of idiots that ruined /v/.

>>120943681
>>120943816
Written by a guy.

>>120943913
>guy being mad about titties
Probably a faggot

thank god theres still japan and one place left where fun things can be fun without worrying about whichever random person gets offended and makes a shitstorm on social media

>>120943913
>Written by a cuck.

FTFY

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>>120943913

Is there anything more awkward than a guy calling himself a "feminist" and getting offended on behalf of women?

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>>120943913
This guy ?

>>120943378
Was I the only one who found this scene fucking hilarious?

Do I just have a shitty Japanese sense of humor?

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>>120943378
That article reeks of normalfag. Pathetic.

>Kotaku
>social justice bullshit
Leave

>>120944435
Do you think manzai is the apex of comedy?

>>120944483
It's up there. I think it's certainly entertaining.

>>120944483

It is, isn't it!

It's not even his real sister

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Japanese truly are the most advanced civilization.

>>120944462
>>120944009
>>120943816
>>120943681
>>120943567
>>120943509
Why are you talking about feminism and social justice? The article is talking about those things very very tangentially.
The extract/OP is talking about the effectiveness of using genre tropes while mocking them. It's not even talking about the problematic nature of fanservice, but the meaning when its used.

If any attempt at discussion at this level is really making /a/ run to the hills, covering your ears screaming 'LALALLAFOCKOFFFEMISMIZM', I have run out of places to talk about anime that aren't at a youtube/mal level.

People lose their shit over virtual incest too much. It's not really an incest anyway, just mild fan service between siblings and plenty of other anime has that.

>>120944906
Who the fuck cares? We've already talked about this.

Monogatari knows what it is and mocks itself for it. It fucking revels in it and that's perfectly fine. Shit like that article tries to delude themselves into thinking that the series is something more and thus tries to justify fun things being fun with convolutedly inconsequential bullshit.

sage for clickbait viral advertising

>>120944906

Because it's the kind of thing that was obviously written by the kind of person who holds those beliefs?

>>120944906

Fuck off back to tumblr, you disgusting legbeard

>>120945144
why are you on 4chan? the anonymous nature of the site means that the person behind the comment is taken out of the equation, all you can respond to is the comment. which virtually no-one in this thread is doing.

>>120945204

Nobody needs to respond to the comment because the sentiments behind it are obviously retarded. There's no reason for anybody to give a shit about whether or not the scene comes across more as being played straight vs being a parody because it's clearly meant to be both, and even if it wasn't, why would it ever matter? Again, the only person who would care is your average tumblrite who feels that fanservice, and, god forbid, depictions of incest, are somehow morally "wrong". That's why nobody is addressing your precious kotaku shit.

>>120944906
The article makes no sense. It criticizes the humor for being hypocritical when that's entirely the point, see >>120943550.

It's obvious the author found the fanservice problematic and then cooked up some half baked reason they didn't like it later.

Great Kotaku blog, fuck off back to where you belong.

>>120944906

It's the only boogie-man on 4chan right now, so people want to talk about it even when its unrelated.

>problematic

you are one of them

>>120944906
>I didn't like x
>convince me my opinion is wrong

Yeah, no. That's not a discussion. Anyone old enough to post on this site should know there's no arguing with "stop liking what I don't like", assuming OP isn't just a troll and a faggot, which he probably is.

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>>120943378
Monogatari after Bake is trash, it's already known

>>120944906
Social Justice whalebeast, fuck off.

I hate this anime and all it's fans so fucking much

/pol/ was right

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>>120946136
Fuck off.

>>120943860
>neo-/a/
But idiots like you are already here.

>>120943550
There's a point where a parody becomes the real thing; for example Wile E. Coyote, a parody of the chase cartoon sub-genre that became the new standard for the chase sub-cartoon genre. Or like a guy trying to parody homosexuality by sucking a dick. "It's not gay, I only did it for the laughs"

>>120943378
>Oh, and it was hot as fuck.
Fixed.

>>120943378
This blog author is such a fucking retard.
>let's watch fanservice shit
>complain about the fanservice

he just walked her to the bath gently

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The problem here isn't feminism necessarily, it's that fanservice series like monogatari have been overrated and hyped by weaboos and mainstream "anime fans" who view anime as some kind of avant-gard artistic expression which has to be analyzed and critiqued to death to be appreciated.

The only people buying BDs of these shows, or staying up till otaku oclock to watch them, have already read the LNs and are primarily interested in what the anime can provide that the LNs can't, visual fanservice. It's pretty clear that the author of the article in OP's pic doesn't understand that, the way he seems to suggest that the fanservice was somehow unexpected or unfitting.

Wait. There are people who think the fanservice in Monogatari is anything but fanservice?
Just because some of those scenes are a little tongue in cheek or self aware doesn't mean they aren't supposed to make you horny.

>>120943378
>they can't admit to themselves they like an incest anime?
Who the hell has that problem?