Is there any point of having a Harem/Romance LN/Anime/Manga where

Most anime announce a winner during the first episode. You're just too retarded to notice.

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>>120738046
romance ≠ harem

>>120738046
The show is about Megumi.
The other girls are just side characters in supporting roles.

>I rather have a generic haremshit that nobody wins in the end
Then you are a retard and an uncultured swine.

i think it would work if the ep one winning girl was undoubtably the best girl which is why saekano works

>>120738046
90% of anime announces the winner on the first episode and it always the first girl the MC notices with the exception of childhood friends.

> Golden Time, Saekano
Good thing the winner of these are both Best girls.

>>120738046
You sounded trolling,OP

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this is the only thing japan knows how to do. their entire idea of romance is determined by 'fate.'
a relationship must be reeking with 'destiny' and fate and all sorts of convenient coincidences and magical forces, beyond human influence or decision making. a winner that comes out of left field as a surprise would strike them as forced and totally not legit.

>Is there any point of having a Harem/Romance LN/Anime/Manga where a girl has already been declared the winner of the MCbowl from the get go?
99% of them? if you think another girks has a chance to win you are just deluding yourself

>>120738046
You can write a story between two lovers, anon.
Also if you translate Saekano's full title, this is all about Megumi.
On behalf of your parents, I am so sorry that your are retarded to know this stuff.

>>120738046
The setting is just bait. You're not supposed to read this for your fucktardbowl.

actually harem shows with a clear winner are refreshing, it doesn't happen that often.

and like >>120738178 said, Golden Time and Saekano are romance, not harem

Rias and Isshei in high school dxd is this. Chitokage is this in Nisokoi, Lala in Tu love Ru, Moka in Rosario Vampire, Miia in Daily lives with monster girls. Aero in 12 Beast, Orihime in Bleach. It goes on and all. I honestly do not get what the points of harems are if not an excuse to have a new pussy to cum inside every day of the week.

>>120738479
>Moka in Rosario Vampire
It's funny because technically it's not Moka who won in the end.

>>120738046
>I rather have a generic haremshit that nobody wins in the end over
Please kill yourself.

>>120738465
>actually harem shows with a clear winner are refreshing
No it's not, you either aim for harem from the get go or for romance. The two don't mix.

Are there actually any harems out there that don't have an obvious winner from the start? Every harem I've ever seen either hasn't had a winner or the winner's been blindly obvious the entire time

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>>120738559
Because the harem was just a red herring to the true narrative and was ultimately irrelevant.

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Fuck you all guys.

>>120738046
>Anime titled how to raise a boring girl
>Boring girl said is Megumi
>Hurr why this is not a harem

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But Megumi will leave when she is finished with the game.


Utaha on the other hand will always be with him.

>>120738556
The "aim for harem" is an illusion you doofus, 99.9% of harems end with either a) an open end, b) the mc picking a single girl over the others or c) the mc picking a single girl but the other girls not giving up, which invariably goes nowhere

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Oh really eh?

>>120738603
oh the trap won? good for her.

>>120738046
>I rather have a generic haremshit that nobody wins in the end over a show where a winner has already been announce in the beginning of episode 1 and then force it down my throat

I very much highly disagree with that but to each his own opinion.

Honestly, I find it worse if a girl has already won and is currently dating the MC but the harem element is still present. That's maybe one of the few things that could get me to instantly hate a show.

>>120738622
>be a tsundere cunt to the MC while he's still deciding who to fuck
>meanwhile senpai is being all nice and dere without being overbearing unlike other autists
>lose
Gee, I wonder why.

>>120738664
If there's one thing this show is good at is at drawing those beautiful pantyhose legs.
Too bad they belong to a fucking cunt

>>120738559
Macross Plus
It was actually surprising when Ranka Lee got BTFO. I never expected it to happen.

>>120738559
Mushoku Tensei
Mostly because they all win

>>120738799
>It was actually surprising when Ranka Lee got BTFO.
The moment she sang my boyfriend is a pilooooot her loss was set in stone.

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>>120738672
>The "aim for harem" is an illusion
It's not aim for harem end, it's simply harem end, it's no illusion either, it's just Japan missing the point entirely most of the time. Also the point of a harem is NOT to go anywhere, it's to have fun with the whole situation. The authors don't get it but so does the retarded audience.

>>120738799
Zentradi never wins anon.
Do you even watch the franchise?

>>120738664
>will always be with him
Heh.

>>120738771
I'm still waiting when a harem MC TOLD a tsundere heroine that he fed up with her obnoxious behavior, then choosing another girl instead.

inb4 THK: I don't hate tsundere. I love gundere-chan and Aoyama

>>120739225
I seriously considering to write a fanfic to a very famous tsundere harem winner that was successfully NTR'd by the MC's childhood friend or anyone who was literally by his side when he was suffering with their toxic relationship just to fed up my autism.

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>THAT QUALITY DROP IN THE SECOND PANEL

When did aniplex went toei animation tier?

>>120739495
>girl we give a shit about
>literally whos

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>>120739495
>toei animation tier

i c wut u did der

>>120738105
And some of them are even obvious just from the title alone.
>haruhi
>toradora
>oreimo

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>>120739525
This episode is very shitty overall. Even for the main grill

>>120739715
B-b-b-bbbut anon, I actually liked it.

>>120738559
Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai
Oregairu

Do I need to watch Ep 00 of Saekano?

>>120738046
I still find it infuriating how /a/ injects harem logic into shows where it does not belong. Can't you just enjoy the ride instead of getting bent out of shape over who "wins"? It's not a fucking reality show.

>>120738046
you know you will die one day in the future. why live?

>>120739852
It's been the best one so far, so yes.

Are they eventually going to explain why Utaha is so keen on acquiring MC's dick for herself?

>>120739883
>Can't you just enjoy the ride instead of getting bent out of shape over who "wins"?
The pairings are not even interesting. Or engaging.

>>120739990
From what I understood, it's "just because".

>>120740064
That's a bit too much deconstruction for me

>>120739990
Read the manga! Utaha has her own spinoff

>>120740146
I take it as the author telling us to not pay too much attention to Utah's case.

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>>120740036
No one is forcing you to stay, Anon.

>>120739744
Liking what I don't like should be a bannable offense

>>120739700

>haruhi
>harem

>>120739883
>I still find it infuriating how /a/ injects harem logic into shows where it does not belong.

Shokugeki no Souma threads are permanently ruined because of this.

>>120740064
Isn't that pretty normal? How many people in real life analyze the reasons behind their attraction to someone?

>>120740064
>>120740146

That's what makes her interesting to me. You can physically lust after someone without being really in "love" or having to justify your feelings.

I really feel like in place when /a/ starts to bash harem endings

>>120739225
Koi to Senkyo to Chokoreto sort of does this

She was just a childhood friend and not a tsundere and she wins anyway. But I want to say MC just tells to her to stop being a crazy bitch at one point

>>120739715
Why is she so best. My mind can't comprehend.

>>120740823
I do. I analyze everything about romance and relationships and have yet to come to a conclusion that explains my personal lack of success. I will soldier on, though, it must just be a matter of collecting enough data

>>120741978
The author makes her the best by not trying too hard to make her the best. Something which a lot of authors failed to do and makes 'best girl never win' meme sprung out.

>>120738046
Modern LN haremshit is pure marketing written by ghostwriters

>>120741978

Why do you think she's the best? My mind can't comprehend. That last scene made me cringe at how awkward and hamfisted it was.

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Soon the suffering intensifies even further.

LN need to get rid of these long obvious titles if they want go make harem LNs

>>120746373

Japanese is just naturally wordy. "How to Raise a Boring Girlfriend" still feels like an appropriate length in English.

>>120746453
What I mean is the need to change the titles so there's no mentioning of any obvious winner.

>>120743862
I wonder if the girls side will be full of suffering too or just straight up meta comedy again.
Akane being their new eccentric bitch boss could go either way.

>>120738046

I don't care, because best girl won

>>120746601
Why, though? I mean, if the 'winner' is supposed to be obvious, there is nothing really wrong with such titles.

>>120746601
The title is hardly a problem if most harem LNs stick to the first girl wins rule anyway.

>>120738046
Some people take the 'competition' too seriously.

>>120742887
She has the most interesting personality. Subtle and composed. Carefree and fun.

>>120738046
MC only likes 2D, no one wins.

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>/a/ hates harems where no one wins in the end because it's still ongoing
>/a/ also hates harems where someone wins early because it makes the rest of the show pointless
there is no pleasing you people