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Whenever someone says they didn't like Hyouka I instantly know that their taste is shit and not worth listening to.
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>>120731181
Fuck off. That shit was so fucking boring, i couldn't see more than 5 chapters.
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Only underageb& and nostalgiafags don't like Hyouka.
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>>120731230
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>>120731230
And now we see a perfect typifier for pleb, version: "I don't possess an attention span!"
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>>120731181
I agree with you.
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post Hyouka
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>>120731230
>i have ADD
That's very retarded of you anon.
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Other than NTR, Hyouka is a complete anime I couldn't ask much more from.
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Please explain what is supposed to be good about this anime. I watched it and nothing happened, just like Tamako Market, and nobody gives two shits about that.
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>>120731181
And that's also why you post the most annoying part of the show.
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>>120731181
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>>120731330
>ADD

ADHD you mean?
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Friend told me to watch it and the festival arc is good I watched it until then and it didn't really interest me, why do people like it?
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polished turd
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>>120731463
Shipping.
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>>120731404
Are you one of those anon who didn't got satisfied with:

>No one likes the same series for the exact same reasons

You're free to dislike it, Anon. No one is forcing you to like it anyway.
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>>120731181
When someone say they liked Hyouka I know this is a good person with the patience of a Saint.

As this fucking show in like watching paint dry and having teeth pulled at the same time.
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>>120731404
Saying "nothing happened" is an entirely meaningless criticism that only displays your own lack of critical thinking.
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>>120731524
I'm only here to say that the crazy cook is the best girl
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>>120731463
it's comfy as fuck
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Specially when they use some shitty excuse like its boring.
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>>120731524
I only want to know what is supposed to be good about it.

>>120731563
Why is that?
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>>120731463
Do you need subs?
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>>120731776

No.

>>120731650
>>120731502

Anyways I watched all of it and I could say I did not enjoy it much at all. I don't know why I just didn't enjoy it. I've also watched bakemonogatari two times over and still do not see what's so great about it. Is it just my shit taste?
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Who Empress here?
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>>120731810
No, both are just not things made to be translated into anime, that's all.
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I've never seen Hyouka but I'll never understand when /a/ says 'it's boring' seeing as their is a lot of boring shit that the majority of /a/ holds in high regards.
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>>120731181
Because you won't able to argue with them otherwise, sure.
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MC seemed like a faggot.
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>>120731854
Such as what? Everything that is popular on /a/ is probably more interesting than this.
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>>120731463

>festival arc

Retarded case with an awful conclusion.

I wouldn't be surprised if some people here liked it only because they love seeing little faggots everywhere.
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>>120731880
eva
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>>120731854
Like?
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Hyouka is amazing, I don't understand any of the hate it gets.

I have a friend that really likes K-on but hates Hyouka because "it's boring". How does that make sense?
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>>120731748
Because it doesn't mean anything. Things do happen in Hyouka.
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This girl has great taste
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>>120731854
What kind of logic is that?
I find Hyouka boring because it's focusing on shitty mysteries and lack of anything else like
>focusing on characters aka their relationship or devolopment etc
>comedy
>romance
>major plot
>actually interesting mysteries
I love SoL comedies and things that focusing on characters, this one however was complete opposite of anything interesting.
Not to menton that show was pretentious as hell, which is why /a/ love it, they love pretentious shit, especially if there's a cute factor to it.
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>>120732037
How was it pretentious?
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>>120731975
>Because it doesn't mean anything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_Clothes
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>>120731966
K-ON is SOL fun the first season that is.
Hyouka is unfun mysteries followed by Oreki exposition and inner monologue nonsense.
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>>120731313
Only good part about this show was the eyes.
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>>120731181
It's the same people that can't deal with Mushishi or Monogatari because it's "boring", "pretentious" or "hipster".

It's like this in all forms of entertainment. Some of the best movies out there gets hate from normalfags because they're once again "boring". Dialogue heavy and slower moving stuff especially.
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>>120731748
see >>120731776

Kanyasai is the best school festival ever portrayed in anime. Does it ever bothering you when there is a festival arc, all you can see is 30% haunted house and 60% etc cafe, and the rest is random stalls. Its boring! But in Kanyasai, you can see props, events and students got engaged and enjoyed the festival. And unlike any other 'boring school festival', Kanyasai has a lot of creativity and thought being put on the table. In this arc, we've got to see glee club, drama club, dance club, quiz club, karuta club, astronomy club, drama club, manga club, etc, and it didn't stop there. Like the picture above we've got to see countless studentbody preparing, serving and enjoying the festivals. Not quite done yet, each one of them are unique. You can barely spot any same-face in this no-name characters fest. It feels lively, it feels festive. It never got you bored by huge amount of contents this festival had. But if you do however, well that is your own problem and not the show's fault.
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>>120732079
>classic music
>literature club
>random imaginery visuals like chitanda hair turning into flowers and all that shit
>overall atmosphere and monotone inner monologues
Remind me of shinkai and his horse shit direction, trying to show mundane stuff as it's supposed to be "meaningful".
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>>120732223
Hyouka actually is boring and shallow though. Don't be a bitch about it.
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You have to understand that Kyoani shows are magnets for crossboarders. When one is made that isn't trite shit, it confuses the anon.
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>>120732276
>random imaginery visuals like chitanda hair turning into flowers and all that shit
Her hair grabbed Oreki because he's a hair fetishist.
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>>120732276
Can you elaborate on how those facets of Hyouka make it pretentious?
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>>120731913
Nobody watched Hyouka for the mysteries
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Is KyoAni even capable of pulling another masterpiece like Hyouka?
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>>120732307
You don't really make a point by just repeating the same words. What was shallow about it? What did you expect to get from it when you went into it?
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>>120732412
I don't know, maybe because it's shallow and effort to make it look like work of art only make it shallow and even more dull and boring?
You can ask people who think Hyouka actually required attention to follow it properly.
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>>120731420
That's the same fucking thing, dummy.
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>>120731181
The show leads to nothing. While that's fine they keep trying to play it off as it will, making it all dramatic and shit. It's the same as watching 12 episodes of someone brushing their teeth from different angles with dramatic music playing then shifting around and zooming in on him when he finds out he's out of toothpaste.
Just comes off as pretentious. The characters are also not so likeable. Chitanda is more annoying than cute, and the 8-man wannabe just comes off as a douche. And that's all. Not a cool douche, a funny douche or even a likable douche.
Just a douche.
The supporting characters are also boring. Whatever her name is is so boring she makes Jun from K-on memorable, hell I actually remember Jun's name and Hachi-douche's friends was trying too hard to have a personality when he's just the staple I'm-actually-not-a-retard-but-I-act-like-one-because-that's-my-character type character.

In conclusion, Hyouka is a boring piece of shit that tries to make itself seem all deep and dramatic when all it is, is nothing more than a boring piece of shit. People that like it, good for them. People that yell at people who don't like it outside of because they like sucking KyoAni's dick, are faggots.
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>>120732537
Is this pasta?
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>>120732449
No.
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>>120732223
No Anon it's boring and don't justify your assumption by calling others Normalfag.

A 1000 time read Sherlock Holmes story is more exciting and entertaining than Hyouka.

Files of Young Kindaichi was more interesting and intriguing.
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>>120732537
>8 man wannabe
The fuck are you on about? Yahari came out much later.
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>>120732514
Your elaboration is poorly articulated and unclear.
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but it's boring
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Quite an interesting theory you have theZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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>>120732429
That's just not true. Lot's of people did watch it for the mysteries and then they get extremely disappointed and come here to shitpost.

Because they are retarded.
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>>120732715
>hyouka and mc
What?
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>>120732715
Who is Hyoka?
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>>120732735
>>120732767
guess retards
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>>120732715
Did you really expect him to start humping the book?
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>>120732648
It's the same as watching a movie by some faggot art student that consist of going down a hallway with dramatic music playing in the background. Just 288 minutes of that. You keep thinking something will happen from the music and the way the camera is going down the hallway but nothing happen.
Then add in a bunch of dickheads defending the movie for being deep and artistic, that people just don't understand because they're not thinking enough or just too normalfag to understand.

Hyouka would have been alright on it on, but it's the faggots that continue to shout how deep and shit it is that makes it a pretentious piece of shit,
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>>120732537
>Chitanda is more annoying than cute
I will cut you
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>>120732855
Nobody is shouting it's deep faggot.
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>>120732881
Her name always sound like some sort of anal infection to me. Every time I hear her name my asshole hurts.
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>>120732917
I'm pretty sure you need to get your asshole checked anon...
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>>120732855
Saying it's dialogue heavy and slow isn't saying it's deep, what the fuck are you on about?

Using the fanbase as a way to talk shit about something is ridiculous by the way. Get over yourself.
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>>120732943
As long as I don't have to hear people say her name my asshole will be fine.
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>>120732918
Fuck off redditfag.
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>>120732855
No one consider it DEEP and PRETENTIOUS. Its quite the opposite actually. And mystery in Hyouka was very trivial with Houtaro bullshitting his way trough and somehow got lucky about it. This even got pointed out in eps 19 and the whole movie arc (when he got unlucky).
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>>120732917
you're waifu says a similar yet distinct thing about me
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>>120732917
>Every time I hear her name my asshole hurts
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It's just a nice show about a school club goofing off and solving trivial mysteries. It's not trying to be like Sherlock Holmes and the mysteries themselves aren't the main appeal.
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>>120733112
And yet its fans think it's the pinnacle of anime
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Someone asked what so good about Hyouka? Somebody answered it but it fell upon deaf ears and shitposting still continues. No wonder no one bothers to give a fuck.
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>>120732918
Do you have the memory span of a goldfish so you can't remember names?
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The first arc of Hyouka was shit to me, but then I decided to pick it back up for the nice visuals and it got me back into SOL, 8/10
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>>120733137
That's because it scratches a particular itch for those people. There's no need to feel angry or left out when it's not your cup of tea.
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>>120733210
This is pretty much my story.
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>>120733137
>Once again using the fanbase argument
Sasuga anon
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>>120733364
The fanbase plays a part in some of this shit and you can't deny that. You can't deny seeing 20 pages of shitpost of Kill La Kill wouldn't make you want to rather stab yourself in the guts than watch whatever piece of shit those faggots are shitposting about.

Fuck those people.
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>>120733417
>>120733465
I haven't even watched Kill La Kill yet, I have no opinion about it. Get your own opinion about things and stop caring what other people think.
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>>120731181
Pretty much i use Hyouka as lacmus test for people`s taste.

The other few are: Haruhi E8, Kokoro Connect, RDG
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>>120733500
I have my on opinion. Fuck Kill La Kill and fuck it's piece of shit fanbase. I hope each and everyone of those faggots burn in hell.

That's what I think of it.
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>>120733570
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>>120732795
eva and shinji don't even fuck.
guess that you retard.
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This thread made me remember I still have yet to watch the last two episodes and

>uses Virtual On to illustrate character development
Absofuckinglutely the greatest Chinese cartoon ever created

I haven't seen a cabinet for probably 12 years or so at this point. I miss it so much.
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>>120733685
Didn't eva got inside angel?
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>we'll never have a good hyouka thread that isn't just fans arguing with idiots and being insecure defensive cucks
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>>120733465
>KLK
there are legitimate, REAL resons to dislike that piece of shit show and this isn't one of them.
kill yourself.
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I tried watching it once and dropped it because it was boring and the characters were unlikeable. Maybe I'll give it another try one day.
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>>120733535
>RDG
that was legitimately mediocre though. not bad, but pretty forgettable.
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>>120733699
I had no idea that was a real game This looks fucking cool
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>>120733535
>lacmus
Animes like these are a diamond dozen
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>>120733276
>>>/sp/
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>>120733937
This is an AMERICAN board, we speak AMERICAN
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>>120733137
>>120733465
>fans of something say something is good
And water is wet, you fucking retard.
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>>120733732
>cucks
You are no better with your crossboarder mentality
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>>120732493
I'm just over halfway through now and I can already tell you it's 7/10 at best. The characters are cute and the the show is pretty engaging but I couldn't suspend my disbelief when 2/3 of every episode's plot is obviously contrived to represent/demostrate a hamfisted logical concept and only tied to the main characters by asspulls and nonsensery,
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>>120734133
>hamfisted logical concept

No anon, nobody has any idea what you'r talking about.
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>>120733835
It's super duper fucking cool.

It's exactly the way they portrayed it. You pick a robot and you have a weird double-stick control configuration that makes you feel like a real pilot. I'd like to say more about it, but like I said I haven't seen a cabinet for years and when I played it in the past I was just a kid. I'm really curious about it now that I've become a terrible vidya autist who understands game mechanics and all.

On another note, I just watched the ending. It was simultaneously satisfying and not. I could understand Oreki and the events, but wished for a little more in the romantic inside me. But that's how the entire show has been so far, right? Absolutely love it.
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>>120734133
My point is that I think the show would be better if they weren't trying to solve mysteries.

The show's idea of "solving mysteries" involves making arbitrary assumptions in order to set up a completely unrealistic vacuum scenario where the main characters control the only important variables and then making increasingly arbitrary assertions until finally reaching the situation that is most revealing for Oreki.

Saying "mysteries aren't the point" doesn't make up for the fact that if they did almost anything else the show would be better.
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>>120734236
Yeah I don't get this at all.

The cases are attempts at reaching the emotional core that served as the catalyst for creating the mystery, it was just telling people stories.
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>>120734337
Can you provide an example of an arbitrary assumption from the show?
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>>120734236
>>120734363
Consider for example episodes 8 and 9. They try desperately to set up a "locked room mystery." Which seems to be required of all "mystery" stories, but the whole context is forced. The room isn't technically locked, the information used to arrive at the conclusion is speculative at best and the whole motivation for the plot is weak. Not to mention the fact that they have to grab straws just to connect the whole scenario to the main characters to begin with.
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>>120734337
>>120734337
Like what anon? There are no arbitrary assumptions. There are some because they have to work from incomplete information but's not even close to the asspulls of something like deathnote. And the point still stands that it's not about that in the first place.
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>>120734476
And the point also still stands that it "not being about the mysteries" doesn't mean that the mysteries were the best vehicle for conveying whatever the show IS about.
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>>120734471
>Mystery from a mystery movie in an mystery anime is contrived

Jesus christ anon, can you get any more retarded? The whole point was that it was contrived and there was no right answer because it wasn't finished.

Nobody fucking liked the movie arc anyways, the only good part was Oreki getting played by Empress.
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>>120734471
To go into more specifics, I claim the context is forced because they unrealistically constrain the situation. "She has only read Sherlock Holmes, and no tricks like that were in Sherlock, therefore they aren't the solution."

The motivation for the plot is weak because they never explain why they didn't just ask the sick girl how she was planning to finish the story. She's (not even really) sick, not dead.
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>>120734682
>these are the kinds of people who dislike Hyouka.

The fucking point was that she did write an ending but nobody was killed. They gave the classics club incomplete information on purpose so they would be forced to make up a new ending that was more suitable.

All the assumptions they made turned out to be wrong. Did you even fucking watch this shit or what?
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>>120732429
A couple of anons did. All the others were in for the waifus and muh kissu.
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>>120734682
>"She has only read Sherlock Holmes, and no tricks like that were in Sherlock, therefore they aren't the solution."
this is going way over your head. you realize they are all mystery geeks, right? the whole point of the show is about these highschoolers wanting to play detectives because they are fans of mystery. besides oreki, none of them are particulary good at it, and even oreki is often proven wrong.
this series isn't ACTUALLY holmes where it's all about the genius solving the mysteries.
it's about a highschool literature club full of mystery fans.

i seriously think that most people who dislike this show expected something different or just plain misunderstood the point of the show. this is way more of a sol than a mystery series.
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>>120733944
>we speak AMERICAN
FREEDÖM/10
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Every time people use to term "comfy" to describe an anime they like/watch you know that it is without any exceptions or doubt 100% objectively shit.
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>>120735814
>never described an anime or manga as comfy
holy shit how new can you possibly be.
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>>120735871
Welcome to the post moot era. ;_;
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>>120731181
Pretty much this.

you know when someone dropped Hyouka, they're either Americans, who doesn't understand anything than "I am good guy, he is bad guy. I have guns. Kill!" or people who think Death Note and Code Geass are intelligent masterworks.
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>>120735871
>>120735997
"comfy" is the most meaningless way to describe an anime. The word has absolutely no value, it doesn't say anything aside from "yeah I like it".

It is as dumb as calling someone a newfag when you have no way to know how long they have been on the site. But since you already showed that you are a complete retards who can't argue outside of repeating buzzwords that should not come as a surprise.
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>>120731735
I don't agree with you, because you're a fucking faggot, and have shit taste when it comes to girl. This post is the first intelligent thing you've ever said.
Now stop using trip for no reason, and acquire a proper taste.
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>>120736110
fuck off
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>>120731813
Best girl.
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>>120736110
It means slow paced and low in suspense.
Most SoL shows could be described as comfy.
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Hyouka fans are like gnats - they're entranced by bright, colorful lights and swarm under them to circlejerk. Personally, I'M curious as to how such cretins evolved the nerve to question anyone else's taste.

Nah but really it was neat, just not for me.
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>>120733986
Yeah and there's a difference between calling something good and calling something a masterpiece that only classy, intellectual gentlemen can appreciate.
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>>120731181
I liked it, but it wasn't good.
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>>120736358
Are your headmates bothering you or something? Who's calling it a masterpiece?
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We can all agree the entire show was a feast for the eyes the likes of which no TV anime has yet to even compare to, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIgwAmEHbZA
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>>120736477
>>120732449
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>>120731230
this
and the mc was such a faggot, he could even be more of a faggot than op
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OP is right for once, alas, it does not remove the fact he is still a fag.
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>>120731813
im sorry for being so late aniki
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>>120736519
touche
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The characters didn't interest me, bar Oreki, and most of the mysteries weren't all that interesting to me either. And the character development didn't exactly make up for the rest, at least for me.
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>>120736490
Seriously, people who were involved in this project are some of the most talented people in the industry.
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>>120736110
just because you don't know why i called you new it doesn't mean i was randomly calling you a newfag. if you have been watching/reading for a while you are bound to have come across slower shows at some point. or forget about that, every show has at least one or two slower episodes that could be described as comfy. think of that haruhi episode where nothing happened because it was rainy. it was a great episode.

judging by the fact that you dismiss it so easily and the fact that you barely know what it means, i'll obviously have to think that you're pretty fucking new.
to me that is a telltale sign of newfaggotry. it's like you're still missing the tastebuds in order to enjoy all the flavours.
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>>120732223
except things matter in monogatari that makes it good and its fan service

3 episodes rule already enough for me to not pick hyouka
sure the show had great visual art but it's a shame kyoani had to waste it on another high school SoL with some "mystery" shenanigans
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>>120736787
If you went by the 3, or even 5, episode rule you would have dropped monogatari.
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>>120736888
except I already like bakemonogatari by 2 episodes in
it stay with its premise and shaft executed it very well
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>>120736971
Is English your fifth language or are you American?
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>>120736971
There is no way you started watching bake and loved it two episodes in. There is no way you weren't tempted to drop it on snail arc.

Stop lying anon.
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>>120737003
I'm filthy asian
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>>120736971
>likes the ADHD show with edgy dialogue that treats you as if you're a fucking retard
i'm not surprised at all
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>>120737029
I'm Asian too but I'm not typing like a monkey like you are.
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What's Oreki's sister's power level?
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>>120737062
Not-Appearing-In-This-Show-chan
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>>120737062
Deus ex, she came with a magic manga that solved everything also Hyouka is a masterpiece, it doesn't matter if they managed themes like talent vs hard work in a shallow way.
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>>120737024
why should I?


>>120737050
>monogatari
>edgy dialogue
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>hear it's really boring
>watch it anyway
>every episode is actually pretty fun
I don't get it, K-on was way more boring. Last episode seemed kind of shit of my first watch but after thinking about it and watching it again it's a pretty good ending for his character
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>>120731181
only good thing about that show was the animation and the design for that girl, other than that it was a pointless nonsense and it had like 2x episodes, a terrible way to employ those resources from kyoani, what a shame.
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>>120737213
>why would you lie to make a point in an argument

Because you have no real argument.
Bake started of slow and is about the supernatural about as much as Hyouka is about mysteries.
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>>120737319
Her design was shit

Himecuts are retarded
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>>120737319
>a terrible way to employ those resources from kyoani, what a shame.

That's not KnK, Free, Tamako, Amagi, Chuuni.
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>>120737050
People need to stop overusing the word edgy
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>>120737431
ok, I'll just tell it

I marathoned bake and nise and genuinely enjoyed them (haven't watch s2 and the rest because of lack of HD space)
the time I tempted to drop this series are the bathroom scene
and no, I wasn't tempted to drop it on snail arc

hell, I could just watch hyouka the way I watch monogatari but there's something that I couldn't put my finger to watch it besides chitanda annoying curiosity
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>>120737773
>/a/ not using buzzwords
>ever

It makes it easier to ignore shitposting anon.
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>>120731181
I agree OP. Best show of 2012 and one of my favorite romance stories ever
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>>120737826
>my favorite romance stories ever
Oh you.
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>>120737877
Sarcasm with the romance shit, obviously, but I legitimately did enjoy it
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>>120731181

i wanna slap shitanda
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I want Irisu to berate me for being a useless NEET and step on me.
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>>120736583
You know what?
You should be punished.
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Halfway through I realised there was never gonna be a substantial romance plot, so I binned it.
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>>120738882
Because it wasn't the main focus of the show to begin with, you dirty shipping faggot.
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probably the only non-comedy SoL I've ever enjoyed
Kyoani's magnum opus
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>>120731181
What if I got bored of it 15 episodes in? (will probably finish it sometime to be honest)
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Why do people defend this borefest?

Is it because of the pretty graphics? How can anyone find the lack of story progression interesting, where this whole anime is just an dumb bitch asking for retarded stuff every episode.

This shit is as boring as Glasslip, but at least glasslip wasn't this fucking repetitive.
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>>120738975
You should give Yuuki Yuuna a try as well.
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>>120739049
Yuuki Yuuna is pretty and all but it also sexualizes little girls with careless abandon so nah
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>>120739038
But
>ki ni narimasu
>ki ni narimasu
>ki ni narimasu
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>>120739038
>graphics
/v/ pls
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>>120731463
production.
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>>120739078
It's all explained in the show!
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>>120739038
>How can anyone find the lack of story progression interesting
my senpai from yuroclappistan can't be this oblivious to nipponese narrative styles!
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>>120732514
You're basically saying Hyouka is a lame show because it actually invites your obervation and understanding?

I bet you watch brainless harem shit.
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Watched for the production values
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One point i noticed in this thread again, even people that like Hyouka for whatever reason dislike Movie ark.

So apparently 2deep4u can happen even when you like the show. Sure, other arks, like festival were lot more event packed - but Movie ark is the ark that actually kick starts the plot (the icecream ark is more introdution and not relevant until much later for character development), has indepth character insight and best ending.

I just rewatched Hyouka BDs on Christmas and thats the ark thats the most memorable by impact and imho best written in whole series.
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>>120739267
I love the movie ark
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>>120731181
If anyone other than KyoAni wrote it then it'd probably be great. But fuck, those generic "quirky girl and perpetually annoyed guy" leads, the generic supporting cast, and the mundane "mysteries". I've tried watching it three times and it's just not for me. Animation wise it's amazing, but the actually content seems better suited for entry-levels.
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>>120739394
I've been watching anime for a while, I really enjoyed it when I watched it last year.
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>>120739267
The movie arc was not enjoyable because for the most part it was repetitive and also introduced a bunch of characters nobody cares about who don't show up again and has them talk for the entire duration. Similar to the reason most people disliked Hana.
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>>120739394
are you confused or something?
you're not making any sense. why the hell did you watch it three times when it's not for you?
also "entry level" would mean that most people would be able to enjoy and understand it when they see it, which is quite obviously not the case.
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>>120739515
>who don't show up again

Except they do, pay more attention.
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>>120739394

KyoAni didn't write it.
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How i wish KyoAni would ever make anything of Hyouka quality again... but here need not just talent and resources, but also good source material - since big part of thing people love about Hyouka is after all just faithful to detail KyoAni adaptation of novel.

Hope the new Euphonium is more Hyouka than K-On. Its also adaptation of proper novel so hopefully would be decent, also i`d preffer Takemoto in it rather than Yamada...
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>>120739667
Because I wanted to give it a chance, since it deserved that much. Once was during the initial airing, the second was the batch because I figured it may be better when marathoned, and the third was the BD because I wanted to sit through it for the visuals.

>"entry level" would mean that most people would be able to enjoy and understand it when they see it, which is quite obviously not the case.
Seasoned viewers may not see the use of sitting through something they've seen 1000 times. That is what makes it boring for people.

>KyoAni didn't write it.
Yes they did. They may have not have written the premise but it's pretty clear that this is a brainchild of theirs.
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>>120739267
I liked movie arc. I just hated that manipulative evil bitch that made Oreki her pawn. But even that I liked in the sense it was a pretty intense arc that left permanent marks on MC. Shows usually cower from this because muh status quo. It was a harsh experience for Oreki and for me as a watcher but it gave an important lesson perverse people sometimes get away with stuff and you can be fooled no matter how smart you are but that doesn't mean you should stop trying. Life goes on.
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>>120739785
Animation wise Kyoukai no Kanata was their next "ambitious" project after Hyouka, and in terms of production it was great, and animation not worse and in many aspects better than Hyouka. However the source material and bad direction really killed it, so its nothing more than show off of KyoAni action sakuga best appreciated in slow-mo.

Maybe the movies will somewhat fix the franchize.
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>>120739819
It's form an LN. Not the premise, the whole thing.
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>>120740079
Its not LN, its proper Novel. Huge difference.
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>>120739819

It's a full blown adaptation.
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>>120739819
>but it's pretty clear that this is a brainchild of theirs
oh really, why?
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>>120739038
>graphiques
Sure is /v/ up in this bitch.
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>>120739819

If you're going to criticize, at least know who did what and who to put that criticism on.
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>>120740128
The Japanese wiki classifies it as a light novel.
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>>120731181
Funny, I think the same, except about people who did like it
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I finished the festival arc two days ago and it was fucking fantastic, probably my favorite festival arc ever (though, I think the mystery of this arc was plain retarded), but before that I don't think it was really interesting, I guess the animation and pretty visuals made me keep going.
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Chitanda is a miracle of the universe. An indecisive beta like Oreki don't deserve her.
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>>120740128
It's still shit.
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>>120736082
>you know when someone dropped Hyouka, they're either Americans, who doesn't understand anything than "I am good guy, he is bad guy. I have guns. Kill!" or people who think Death Note and Code Geass are intelligent masterworks.

None of those shows, including Hyouka, are intelligent masterworks. But they're interesting and entertaining enough. I like them.
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>>120742261
>autistic genius
>lazy genius
>not a perfect match
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>>120736082
>actually thinking Hyouka is smarter than Death Note
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>>120742261
>This annoying wench
>Doesn't deserve her
>Implying Oreki isn't a much better person and better character overall
No anon, it's she who doesn't deserve him.
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>>120742954
Does this means Chitanda deserves me? Cuz that would be awesome.
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>>120743082
You both deserve each other you little fuccboi
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>>120742930
>death note
>smart

I don't even know who's trolling who anymore
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Hyouka is fucking beautiful. Good Job Kyoani. Shame I haven't really liked anything they've done since.
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KnK was better. It truly separates the plebs from patricians.
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>>120744257

I can see you belong to the plebs.
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>>120731880
>>120731925
Hidamari Sketch
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>everyone has to like my overrated sominfer!
what deluded hyouktard actually believes
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>>120731966
I love both of them, and I can tell you the difference. K-on is a fast-paced SoL, and Hyouka is a slow-paced show.
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>>120744257
Kara no Kyoukai that is.
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It wasn`t bad, just boring and tiresome to watch.
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>>120732449
Violet Ever Garden
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>>120744849
You're pretty good.
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Enjoyed most of it, expect the film shit, it practically broke its own rules and ignored easier explanations to pull a subpar conclusion
(Him getting it wrong was dope thought)
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It's certainly not for everyone, but I really enjoyed it.
To me, the characters were all likable, the plot served as a good excuse to listen to them talk to each other, and it really relaxing on the eyes.
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