Hanekawa is truly the best Monogatari girl.
Never said she was my waifu, just that she's the best Monogatari girl.
Kanbaru is my waifu.
People with taste this shit actually exist.
She is close,but Snake takes that spot,anon
Excel can't save you from shit taste anon
NO THE BEST GIRL IS KAREN
No need to apologize for posting best pairing.
Only Monogatari without brain problems coming through.
The like the irony in your post. I'd give it a solid 6/10.
Also posting the actual only Monogatari without brain problems.
But Maymay is literally a hobo, he's gotta have SOME problems.
Also no you don't. Oshino might just be a poorfag or a stingy bastard.
Though if I'm actually going to have to defend the point then I'm changing my answer to Mamaragi.
If Workaholic is the only mental issue she has. That makes her better than Tsukihi at the very least.
Also since you've corrected me on that. I have to change my answer to Tooe Gaen.
Wasn't Tooe incapable of actually saying what she actually meant?
Anyway, I'm going with Yotsugi for sanest Monogatari.
She's dead, anon. All that happened long after Tooe had died.
Also Kaiki wishes Tooe went /ss/. It's why he's making Kanbaru plumper. So she'll look more like Tooe and he can get his dick wet vicariously through her.
Do you even into Hikaru Genji.
Being socially awkward is barely a mental issue. But since for the purposes of the internet argument I'm going to have to accept it as one since normal people can communicate normally.
Also Yotsugi isn't mentally sane either. If it was just "sanest" instead of "Without brain problems" then Yotsugi still wouldn't make the cut by being a straight murderer.
I'm going to now change my answer from Tooe Gaen to Kanbaru's Grandmother. You guys are making me work hard for this.
>Also Yotsugi isn't mentally sane either. If it was just "sanest" instead of "Without brain problems" then Yotsugi still wouldn't make the cut by being a straight murderer.
But he's not human, so she needn't be sane by human standards; that's my point. Plus, it wasn't like she killed the guy just because, she just judged that was the best course of action possible.
>kagenui that low
>kaiki that low
>meme that low
absolutely kill yourself
*This is a cuck thread and it will be taken from Cat by Crab just like Araragi.
We don't have an accurate scale for measuring "Oddity Insanity" so we have to judge it by human scales since humans cannot exactly understand what each and every oddity considers "normal"
Also I was talking about her straight up wasting Tsukihi with intent to kill. I completely forgot about Teori which is even worse since he wasn't immortal.
Also Kanbaru's grandmother is the new standard Yotsugi has to beat for least "brain problems"
If we're going by different morality, then recent Shinobu is the sanest. Sure she killed in order to stay alive and started out the series suicidally depressed, but she has actually managed to pull herself out of that funk and learn human values in only a few months.
>Also I was talking about her straight up wasting Tsukihi with intent to kill.
Oh yeah, that was pretty shitty.
>I completely forgot about Teori which is even worse since he wasn't immortal.
He had hostages and shit though. He could have killed Araragi.
Here we go again
No one cares what you want to accept or not. No one cares what you at all in the first place.
Well, it doesn't take much to pass Snake or Snail in the rankings
Well, I don't care about you either
Maybe authority isn't the right word.
It's like, he has to be superior. He can't stand anyone trying to be on his level. He's subtle about it though, like how he avoids Hanekawa all through kizu. I bet he probably avoids Gaen the same way
I don't care that you don't care.
Sup, faggots. Heard you were talking about best girl so I posted her. Pic related.
Kaiki x Senjougahara
I don't care that you don't care that I don't care
>It's like, he has to be superior. He can't stand anyone trying to be on his level.
Isn't it the other way around? Gaen and Hanekawa always have to be in the right. He just doesn't like people telling him what to do.
Best song, best girl.
I don't care that you don't care that I don't care that you don't care. That's how much I don't care.
>Gaen and Hanekawa always have to be in the right
So Oshino being around them would bring about conflict. And he wants to avoid that.
I always interpreted it as Oshino just doesn't like people like Hanekawa and Gaen who are interfering busybodies since it sorta conflicts with his approach of how to help people.
Hanekawa and Gaen could solve the plethora of oddity-related mysteries on their own but Gaen especially doesn't care whether or not the person who got the oddity is fixed or not and Hanekawa during Bake didn't fully understand her helping is hurting people in the long run because they become reliant on her like Araragi did.
After Mousou Express,Renai Circulation,Kogarashi Sentiment,Platinum Disco and Happy Bite
I do care about seeing you give up. It's cute.
Let's gather our power together, cat bro and drive out this STD infestation of crabs.
How about now?
Right behind you, my friend
I like Cat but im a Snakefag
I'll help you two though
1v1 me you
>All this jelly
She's a pure virgin, that didn't open her legs for the first person that showed attention to her. Crab couldn't even get a lonely 30yr old man to clean her cooch for her.
>All the beatings in the world can't fix this potato face of mine.
Cat, more like little bitch.
>She's a pure virgin, that didn't open her legs for the first person that showed attention to her.
She literally went around town at night in underwear sucking people dry.
Are you a dft type of man? Hanekawa is so perfect, she's that too.
>generic insult of dubious veracity or efficacy
wow you sure showed us
Not that anon but
What is: Mayoi with her lying, GAEN, Yotsugi and Yozuru in Tsuki, Nadeko to the world.
There's probably arguments for everyone in Monogatari manipulating but you get the gist.
Mousou Express = Renai Circulation > Kogarashi Sentiment > Platinum Disco > Happy Bite > Staple Stable>Sweet Sugar Nightmare >Chocolate Insomnia>Ambivalent world>Orange Mint>the last day of my adolescence>Fukotome>Perfect Slumbers>Marhsmallow Justice
Didn't literally ALL the girls in Bakemono' do that though? Bee and Bird by lying about their bf's to get Araragi jelous. Monkey's antics to keep her lesbo fantasies. Crab to kaiki, going so far as to threaten prostitution. Snake and all that she did.
You paint Cat's acts negatively, yet ignore all the other bullshit the rest did.
>Get told by >>120677225 >>120677173
>Rebuttals with Nuh-uh!
They are all fucked up, that's the point of the whole show. Cat's problem, was that she was too perfect and her human flaws found release through the oddity, which increased in power 30x fold because she was THAT perfect.
I didn't say monkey didn't have problems, I said she didn't lie and manipulate people.
Anon please, if you're going to hate her, at least do it properly. You're just hurting the image of all other people with taste out there.
Crabfags can't have a worse image anyway
That wasn't me.
Here's a new example of how Hanekawa is shit.
She's insufferably superior. Hanging out with her would be like hanging out with your parents if they thought you were still only five years old.
A lot of normal people, would consider keeping secrets and half truths as manipulating. Even in the latest OVA, monkey does this.
In Tsuki? What are you talking about?
And keeping secrets, especially ones that don't effect other people is not manipulation. having an unrequited crush does not make you manipulative.
>That wasn't me.
Don't care if it wasn't actually you, I was trying to make a point.
>Hanging out with her would be like hanging out with your parents if they thought you were still only five years old.
Women can be cunts, you say? What a new and interesting opinion. Here's mine. Cat is the best. Simply, the best.
I feel bad for the cat. I wanted her to win the araragi-bowl so much
the crab could always have just fallen for literally any other nerd that saves her.
You're mean we're the unsoilable, indisputable, eternal #1? How mature of you to finally recognize your superiors, I'm so happy for you.
Yeah you are the unsoilable, indisputable, eternal #1 at having bad taste
Haven't seen one of these in a while.
I don't hate Cat, I think she's a good character. However she got way too much attention early in the series. For fucks sake she got three arcs about her before any other character even got two. Not to mention she's also featured quite a bit in Kizu (never.)
99.9% sure it's women you have a beef with, not Hanekawa. You fault her for things you learn to deal with in life. Cat didn't kill anyone, she didn't cheat on anybody, she didn't hurt anybody despite having the means to do so. Cat didn't force anyone into doing something they weren't going to in the first place. You hate Cat, because you want to see her fall from grace. Even what you said she treats people as inferior's; that's just your projection of feeling insufficient.
You're platinum mad a fictional character can be perfect and smug, that you want to see her suffer for it.
That's what you are, but what am I?
this is the first cat thread ive seen
i didnt even know these people existed
im scared hold me /a/
I have it.
Your feeble mind can't understand the perfectness of cat.
None of them killed anyone anon, cat tried her best to do it just like most of them though.
>she didn't hurt anybody despite having the means to do so
Okay this is just bait right?
>Okay this is just bait right?
We see different things. Cat's attack on others was just to lash out and get even, for her bottled up feelings. Her vicious attacks on Ararararararararararagi, were empty threats. Cat warns him and tries to deter him, his life was never in any danger. At this point in the story, Cat is well aware of his vampire powers, I dare say that if he wasn't a vampire, her attacks would have been much more tame.
I've been a catfag since 2009. Best girl left the story so you don't see us around that much. I've lost most interest in the series, since she left. You'll also notice the threads are far fewer in number and popularity since she left
>I-It's not my waifu that is wrong, all women are bitches!
No wonder you like her so much, she's a beta permavirgin just like you.
>Cat didn't kill anyone, she didn't cheat on anybody, she didn't hurt anybody despite having the means to do so.
She ended up hurting people, random people included, even the guy she liked and was trying to help her, because she couldn't stop trying to pretend everything in her life was alright. She also burned a house and a school, just because they had emotional value.
>It's okay, she was just pretending to be a murderer!
Also it's funny how this
>Her vicious attacks on Ararararararararararagi, were empty threats. Cat warns him and tries to deter him, his life was never in any danger.
contrasts with this
>Cat didn't force anyone into doing something they weren't going to in the first place.
>she didn't hurt anybody despite having the means to do so
>Cat's attack on others was just to lash out
So which is it, anon? Did she attack people or not? To attack someone is to hurt them. To energy drain innocent bystanders who didn't do anything wrong.
That's all I ever wanted to hear, Senjougahara-senpai.
Did the energy drained people die? Did they receive long term injury? Did they even see what did that to them? All answers are no. You say hurt when you mean distress. She caused distress unto others, the only person she did hurt, was Araragi.
>contrasts with this
I didn't contrast anything, enabling people isn't the same as hurting them. That quote about her manipulating people, is based on how she didn't force them into actions through coercion. The best example is how she let Bee loose on Kaiki, knowing she would get fucked up. At some point, you have to take personal blame for your actions, yet you are pointing at her for the wrong reasons.
Wake up Kanbaru, you're late for school.
If this is a dream, why aren't you making out with Kaiki right now?
I don't have a good response to that. I figured I would use a scene of her waking up but I couldn't think of anything good to say.
>You say hurt when you mean distress.
You're grasping at straws. If I stab a dude on the leg I sure as fuck am hurting him, even if it's not a long term wound. She hurt people, plain and simple. There's no excuse for letting off steam at the expence of others. She was angry so she hurt people, because she wouldn't deal with the issues that actually caused her to be stressed.
>That quote about her manipulating people, is based on how she didn't force them into actions through coercion.
But you just said she threatened Araragi. She was stopping him from doing something through force.
What you're talking about is a nightmare, not a dream.
'she' did not hurt people the apparition did it as a quick conclusion to the problem.
Similar to how kanbaru didnt want arararagi to be with crab the devil monkey apparition tried to resolve through his death even though that wasnt the complete outcome she wanted.
Right, it was the big bad cat that did it. That's why when Araragi told her he was in trouble, she came rushing with her normal voice/face.
*teleports behind u*
pssh nothin personnel kid
>You're grasping at straws. If I stab a dude on the leg I sure as fuck am hurting him,
Holy shit, she didn't go that far. She energy drained people by grabbing them with her hands, her small soft girly hands, this isn't grasping at straws, it is a fact from the writer himself. Are you serious when you equate energy draining with stabbings? If I'm reaching at straws, you're reaching for the stars with those assumptions.
>She was angry so she hurt people, because she wouldn't deal with the issues that actually caused her to be stressed.
I never said she wasn't lashing out, I pointed this out multiple times in fact. Thanks for agreeing with me in an opposing tone.... I guess.
>But you just said she threatened Araragi. She was stopping him from doing something through force.
Did you not watch the show? She threatened him first, to prevent the situation from escalating into her having to attack him head on, because deep down, she didn't want to hurt anyone but rather play a damsel in distress. Are you so autistic you are incapable of interpreting meaning and intent?
I agree she did dumb things, as did the whole cast, but you pick out the wrong things to hate her on. I could list the worst aspect of Cat, but I won't since that would just give you fuel to keep making bad opinions through third hand experiences.
Step aside, Kiak~chan, Koyomin has some errands he has to run for me.
What are the bad news?
That we might never see Snake again?
Oi oi, senpai. I'm going to need to borrow something from the demon boy. You won't mind, right?
Same dude you're arguing with, I'll give you some fodder cause I love discussing best girl. Not a lot of people pick up on this and I don't see it mentioned much, but Hanekawa is vain. Her whole being perfect, having people think of her as perfect and to be adored is down right vain.
Her vanity to be accepted and unwillingness to reveal her faults or desires is self imposed and a part of her vanity.
There you go. I know a lot more, but I can't diss my waifu like that, son.
If anyone here has read the novels what is Sodachi like?
>Not realizing some people truly like snake
Name a cat character that isn't best.
You can search there all you like but you won't find what you're looking for. Someone stole that thing a long time ago.
Black Cat, White Cat, Tiger Cat. 3 cats, same person.
Best girl does it again.
>Are you serious when you equate energy draining with stabbings?
Are you seriously being obtuse? The point is that she went around causing pain to people. You say what she did wasn't permanent, but that doesn't somehow makes it acceptable.
>Did you not watch the show? She threatened him first, to prevent the situation from escalating into her having to attack him head on
Eh, I'll admit I don't remember how that sequence of events went. It's been a while since I watched Neko and I mistakenly thought you were contradicting yourself.
>deep down, she didn't want to hurt anyone but rather play a damsel in distress.
If she didn't want to hurt anyone, she shouldn't have, plain and simple.
>you pick out the wrong things to hate her on
Well, I don't, since a) I don't really hate her and b) I was a third party in this discussion; I haven't even stated what I think of her once.
That is a pretty interesting observation.
>I know a lot more, but I can't diss my waifu like that, son.
You can, if you really love her, you can accept her with her flaws. Discussing how something is broken isn't saying it's wrong.
You say some funny things, Gaen-senpai. You're such a petty villain sometimes.
I made some shitty OC.
>Liking Snake means you have shit taste
>think liking snake doesn't equal the shittiest taste
>Being delusional to the point that they think liking best girl equals shit taste
It would be more accurate to say I'm being pessimistic right now more than a villain. Kiaki is the petty "villain."
Only a villain would convince Yotsugi to say "Yay, peace peace."
I honestly feel kinda bad how shitty snake it.
But then I remember how good crab is and I just stop giving a shit.
HIDE SNAKE THREADS
IGNORE SNAKE POSTS
DON'T REPLY TO SNAKE POSTERS
Even if Snake is shit,thanks to her we got more Kaiki.
That is like her only redeeming quality.
And that she is pure sex.
I want to do lewd things to her.
Sorry for late reply, getting more iced coffee.
>The point is that she went around causing pain to people. You say what she did wasn't permanent, but that doesn't somehow makes it acceptable.
What is your goal by keeping this topic alive? No really, are you saying Hanekawa is evil or that's she is dangerous? I'm defending her, because her actions weren't severe, yet you keep pointing them out. We're going in circles here.
>If she didn't want to hurt anyone, she shouldn't have, plain and simple.
She did want to hurt people for hurting her, but she didn't want to hurt them badly. It was restrained out lash, after all. Her initial victims were those that wronged her in some way, then she started with by-standers. In Neko, there were over 20 victims of her energy drains.
>Well, I don't, since a) I don't really hate her and b) I was a third party in this discussion; I haven't even stated what I think of her once.
THEN WHY ARE YOU PICKING ON HER? You say you don't hate her, then point out the parts in her story where she did bad things, yet she eventually over came them and moved on, with the rest of the cast. She was purposely created to be like that. We can both rest easy, knowing Hanekawa isn't a bad guy, with a bad end. Her and the cast have moved on with her and their actions. Hanekawa's story had a beginning, a middle and an end. Hanekawa isn't an occurring problem like Crab or Snake that love being near problems. Hanekawa's tale, pun intended, is done. So I can say that she turned out better than most in the Bakemonoverse.
It's meme time!
Snake a shit!
Snake is worse than Hitler!
Oh, god she's such a fucking cunt.
Of the main girls, those that are most likely to kill are;
I put Crab high up there, because she's a bit crazy and her husbando is in constant danger, so it wouldn't surprise me if she tries the revenge angle.
It is here to stay cause it aint a may may,
Its the truth.
>No really, are you saying Hanekawa is evil or that's she is dangerous? I'm defending her, because her actions weren't severe, yet you keep pointing them out.
I'm just saying what she did was a shitty thing. I replied because you seemed to want to alleviate that fact by saying what she did wasn't permanent; which still doesn't not make it a shitty thing to do, with a bad motivation to boot. Simple as that.
>She did want to hurt people for hurting her, but she didn't want to hurt them badly. It was restrained out lash, after all.
See this is what I'm talking about.
>You say you don't hate her, then point out the parts in her story where she did bad things
It's you that said she never hurt anyone. I'm just correcting you. I haven't said anything about Hanekawa by herself, I've only replied to your statements.
Guys i like Chocolate Insomnia and Sweet sugar nightmare more than Staple Stable and Platinum Disco
Do i have shit tasste?
>Why doesn't Monogatari have a final boss or climax?
>snake last or second to last in every single one
>See this is what I'm talking about.
I use the words hurt and attacked because it sounds better than saying she went around hugging people against their will, but indeed that is what she literally did. Is there such a word that means hugging against their will to drain their energy while causing no harm? I'm open to suggestions.
>It's you that said she never hurt anyone.
Besides Araragi, yes, I am saying she didn't hurt anyone in the physical sense. If you want to know why, read the above text.
>I haven't said anything about Hanekawa by herself, I've only replied to your statements.
Yes you have, don't deny it, I feel your shit eating grin from my monitor as I read this line. I don't even want to copy pasta all the stuff you said since this thread began.
>I'm open to suggestions.
I'd suggest you stop trying to lessen the fact that she went around knocking out random people out of nowhere due to her own bile.
>I feel your shit eating grin from my monitor as I read this line.
You're just being delirious now. Calm your tits.
>I don't even want to copy pasta all the stuff you said since this thread began.
You mean all that about her being a permavirgin and a cuckold? That's called banter Anon, I was being jocularly facetious
even if it's true.