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>mfw I realised that SERN actually exists, they're just called CERN
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Is this the epik continuation of "I just realized John Titor actually exists"?
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LHC and John Titor are actual things too. As are IBM5100s. And Kerr black holes as a method for time travel.
Attractor field/world lines are 5pb. chuunibyou, however. As is compressing data size with gravity and transmitting a human's memories with a cell phone.
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>>120664472
I was just thinking the same thing

OP, you're a fucking retard
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>mfw microwaves are real
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>>120664495
CERN working on mini black holes is as real as John Titor and closed time like loops in the interior of a Kerr black hole are.
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>mfw dr pepper is a real drink that exists
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>>120664598
Nobody told me this
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>>120664615
So perfectly likely and feasible?
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>mfw bananas actually exist
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>>120664495
>Attractor field/world lines are 5pb. chuunibyou, however. As is compressing data size with gravity and transmitting a human's memories with a cell phone.

As far as you know.
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>>120664656
if-you-believe-hard-enough-tier, yes
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Do anon exist?
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>Akihabara is a place that exists
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>>120664306

So how does it feel to be literally retarded?
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Japan exists.
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>>120664984
>says Japan exists
>doesn't post proof
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>>120664615
CERN actually does create micro black holes though.
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>mfw I realised that japs put bananas in the microwave like it's a normal thing to do
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>mfw satelites actually exists.
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>catgirl maid cafes actually exist
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>>120665020
if they did that then the earth would be sucked in
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Hey, Anon,

Despite all the things in anime that really exist, your waifu doest not!
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>>120665107
What if it has already?
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>King Arthur actually existed
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Christina actually exists. In at least one of the multiverses.
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>>120664857
>so is Britannia
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>>120665107
Black holes produced by the LHC wouldn't be nearly big enough to actually do anything. They'll fizz out in a fraction of a second.
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>>120665107
No it wouldn't. Hawking radiation causes the black holes to evaporate before they can affect the earth since they are so freaking tiny.
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>>120665190
>Babylon actually had a gate
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>>120665107
CNN pls go
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>>120664306
>@channel is real
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>mfw i totally thought SERN was the real name
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>>120665360
>Gilgamesh actually had nothing to do with Babylon

this is what throws me off the most
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Moeka did nothing wrong
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>>120665402
>@channel is just 4chan
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>>120665020
I heard once that they measured gravitons too, but it's I haven't seen research papers yet on either's measurements
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>>120665202
Don't remind me..

>Kurisu exists but in a different universe
>tfw you'll never meet a girl to talk about science and shitty memes
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>Nyarlathotep is actually an alien deity from an author called H.P. Lovecraft's stories
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>mfw I actually thought that black holes were fictional
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Music for thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LgcDpTH47g
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>>120665455
It's probably because "Copper Walls of Uruk" doesn't have the same ring or cultural significance as "Gate of Babylon".
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>people in real life laboratories wear lab coats
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>>120664495
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_line

Apparently not so chunni.
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>Adam was the first human in abrahamic mythology
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>the internet exists
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>>120665617
>mfw I thought it was normal to wear a labcoat in public
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>people are real
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>>120665630

That's a different concept entirely than the attractor field world line idea presented in Steins;Gate, where only one reality exists and it rearranges itself based upon what probabilities have been expressed in the current reality.
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>>120665656
Abraham wads
That's why its called abrahamic and not adamic
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>I exist
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Why is LHC so huge? Why can't they make portable LHC?
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>>120665630
>go to lecture by hotshot physicist
>he starts talking about world lines
>almost fall out of my chair
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>>120665107
>black hole created with a relatively small amount of materials
>having enough gravity to affect anything
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>>120665729
It seems to be a term for the movement of any particle or object in spacetime, so in a sense the worldline does actually line up with Steins;Gate, if you consider that they are altering the worldine of the entire universe.
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>>120665676
Go kill yourself liar.
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>>120665789
Why would anyone need a portable particle accelerator in a world where ghosts don't exist?
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>>120665789
>we could have portable LHCs run by their own portable CERNs employing portable Moekas
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>>120664630
No way, how is it possible that my anime shows real brand names without any pointless change?
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>>120665630
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>the bass, electric guitar, keyboard and drums are all real instruments
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>mfw you're a fucking retard
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>>120665859
10/10
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>>120665875
But do cute girls who play them exist?
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>>120665750

Abraham is son of Terah son of Nahor son of Serug son of Reu son of Peleg son of Eber son of Salah son of Arpachshad son of Shem son of Noah son of Lamech son of Methuselah son of Enoch son of Jared son of Mahalalel son of Enosh son of Seth son of Adam, creation of God.
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>>120664306
Is it nice, living under a rock?
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Pic related
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>>120665826
>bastardizing the theory this much
wat
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>>120665923
Where does Arathorn come in?
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>bullying is a real thing
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>>120665962
Is Mozart still alive?
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>>120664306
>mfw people actually believing that John Titor was a real time traveler are real.
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>>120665859
This image is a perfect depiction of 4chan.
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>>120664630
I was amazed too. I actually found it in Europe! It was so shit I threw it after the first sip.
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>>120665962
No, it was named after its inventor, Philip Q. Glass
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>>120665875
What isn't an instrument?
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>X actually exists
Well you know what doesn't exist? you're waifu, checkmate.
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>>120665923
Okay, now explain with whom Cain had kids.
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>>>/sci/fag here
haven't watched the show
any questions?
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>>120665859
That is actually what some of these diagrams feel like though.

>>120665967
Do I look like a motherfucking quantum physicist?
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>>120666038
No, your taste was so shit, the Dr.Pepper spat you out.
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>>120666007
>non-local thread
top kek
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>>120666066

your dick
because noone will ever beat it
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Pic is something I actually didn't know, from Penguindrum
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>>120665962
Wait you don't mean that what I'm wearing right now are called "glasses" because they are also made of that material? Seriously?
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>>120666073
One of Eve's kids or Eve herself.
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>>120665107
A black hole the size of a few neutrons still only has the mass of a few neutrons.
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>>120666073

Genesis 5:4 says Adam just kept banging Eve for like 800 years popping out babies all the while.
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>>120666076
What would happen if my Schwarzchild radius' value were a complex number?

>>120666073
Onan
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>>120666003
I don't know about john titor, but time travel does exist. The proof is that we can't travel back in time is a solid proof of time travel can be done.
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>>120665462
How could a girl with such huge tits be such a social reject?
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>>120666206

It's more like proof that we cannot hold ourselves still in time.
Time travel is constant at a rate of one second per second.
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>>120666108
wtf...
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>>120666246
Not really. It depends on how fast you are going relatively.
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>>120666280

That just means your second isn't equal to everyone else's seconds. You're still only perceiving one second per second.
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>>120666093
If that helps you sleep at night, anon.
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>>120666246
Well, at normal human speeds, yes. As you approach lightspeed or black holes, time dilation becomes a real thing. See Gunbuster.
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>>120664306
Is this a new low in /a/?
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>>120666231

She apparently looked pretty plain until FB gave her some fashion tips.
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>>120666253
>wtf...
Kill yourself.
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>>120666108
It's concept art, anon...
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>>120666280
>>120666309
Is time slower outside of the galaxy?
Don't remember the numbers, but the galaxy is moving at an extremely fast speed, spinning at an extremely fast speed too, along with the earth's fast revolution and rotation speed.

Can anything actually be considered still?
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>>120665789
>Large Hardon Collider
>portable
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>>120666390
It looks like it was actually proposed in an architecture competition, though, which is cool.
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>>120666438

First thing to remember: motion is relative. There is no objective frame of reference.
It's "general" relativity for a reason.
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>>120666206
Did you know that there is actually a relativity based theory that posits that traveling back in time is possible?

You "just" need two black holes and somehow be able to survive the experience.
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>>120664306
I'm a yuropoor and i did a internship at CERN in Switzerland in 2013.
It wasn't really as villainy as people imagine, it was mostly drinking coffee and doing math.
The biggest memory i have is that we were encouraged to bike to work and they even had a scoreboard to show who had done it the longest and had biked the longest in Km.
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>>120665656
>mythology
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>>120665789
>>120666469
Little Hadron Collider
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>>120666535
>The Little Hadron that Collided
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>>120666108
>top
>mybacklog.jpg
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>>120665789
>Large Hardon Collider
>Large
>why is it so huge
anon please.
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>>120666185
then you did the math wrong
no constant of proportionality under r_s has complex components.
for complex spacetime a temporal phase angle of pi/2 would coincide with the radius, if that's what you're asking

drunk scifag here giving half-assed answers to anime science
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>>120666517
https://www.endomondo.com/challenges/13560565

Apparently they've make the list public.
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>>120666180
So is God an incestfag then? If he didn't want Cain an Abel to bang their imoutos he'd have created waifus for them.
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>>120666584
Is the 13-dimentional subspace of Barnett integrable manifolds invariant under Lorentz transformations?
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>>120666438
>Can anything actually be considered still?
Depends on the extent to which gravitational pull can move black holes. Black holes are as close to still as things can get.
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>mfw /a/ doesn't understand physics
>mfw my face
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>>120666782
I can't even tell if these are jokes or not anymore...
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>>120666877
I understand basic physics and mechanics and stuff, but these spacetime blackhole shenanigans are crazy.
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>>120666877
>why doesn't my chinese cartoon graffito know about anti-de Sitter space
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>>120666666
epic
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>>120666076
Were sedenions ever useful for anything? I don't get why they exist.
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>>120666483
Spinning is not relative though, it's objective, because it involves acceleration.

To answer>>120666438 questions

>Can anything actually be considered still?
You need to decide in relation to what, but consider that the whole universe is expanding and the expansion rate is accelerating.

>Is time slower outside of the galaxy?
It's actually faster. When you are subjected to a strong gravity field time runs slower the closer you are to it. Perhaps you already know that GPS satellites roaming around the Earth need their clocks to be adjusted due to relativity effects. But the discrepancy is mainly caused by their relative higher distance from Earth's gravity field than by their speed.
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>>120666076
How does spiral energy work in real life?
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>>120666076
How much faster than light would you need to travel to effectively 'freeze' time? Or is it a sum that winds up as a limit? Or is there a value at which movement through time would theoretically become negative?
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>>120667478
>Implying it's possible to travel faster than light.
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>>120664306
>This OP actually spawned an interesting thread.
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>>120667478

By the time you move at light speed, time doesn't move.
Going faster than light means you would perceive time in reverse essentially behaving like a tachyon.
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>>120665656
He was also apparently huge and clinically immortal. In those times it was perfectly normal for a healthy person to live several hundred years, at least according to the old testament.
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>>120666666
holy shit
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>>120666782
what the fuck are barnett manifolds nigger

>>120667048
they're just higher dimension algebras.
every time you bump up a dimension, you lose a property (ie reals to complex you lose ordering) but gain a lot of neat tricks.
there are plenty of problems once you reach 16 dimensions though such as anticommutative association, and vector squares being negative.

>>120667317
the universe is spinning

>>120667478
as you approach the speed of light, the passage of time approaches zero
think of space-time as the ratio between how fast you're moving vs how fast time is ticking for you
subliminal exceedance takes an infinite amount of energy so fuck you
faster than light objects, ie tachyons, would have imaginary mass and move backwards in time

fuck I can't do these captchas anymore
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>>120664306

>mfw I actually visited CERN
>mfw all I could think about was Steins;Gate
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>>120666666
Satan is real.
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>>120667142
Thanks for answering.
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>>120667478
>faster than light
Ha ha, nice joke. If a local speed faster than light was possible the whole theory of relativity would fall apart.

There are ways to get around that, for example you can shrink space instead or you can take a shortcut in the hyperspace.

Anyway if you can go as fast as the speed of light (which is virtually impossible, because anything that has mass would need infinite energy to achieve that) time would completely freeze... for you. In the universe outside an infinite amount of time would pass in an instant.

>Or is there a value at which movement through time would theoretically become negative?
Since the higher possible speed is the speed of light and time for you would become 0 only at that speed, it can never become negative. In fact it can never become 0 in practical terms, you can only try to get close to it.

The only way to defy that limit is through space curvature. Which is why there is a theoretical model that would make traveling back in time possible through the use of two black holes.
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>>120667810
They know you know, anon.
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>>120667678
That's irrelevant to the discussion.
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Why is light able to move at the speed of light?
Light has infinite energy?
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>>120665684
But it is
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>>120668177
Light has the Death Note and was able to kill time but only for himself.
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>>120668177
Photons don't have mass.
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>>120665684
Depends. If you're just going out to lunch, during work then sure wear it.
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>>120667983

Faster than light speeds are possible, it just requires negative mass.
The question is if negative mass is possible. It would also mean that things with negative mass cannot move at light speed or slower.
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>>120668177
Googling around, this actually turns out to be an extremely delicate and oft-debated question.

A lot of the answers I'm seeing are essentially "that's just the way it is."
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What is water?
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>>120668177
>>120668389
Photons have no mass.
At 0 mass, the only speed you can move is lightspeed in all frames of reference.
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>>120668490
Mizu
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>mfw I realised there really are titans insides wall.
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>>120667771
Thanks anon.

In other news it looks like I found the inspiration for this show.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyonic_antitelephone
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>>120668512
>At 0 mass, the only speed you can move is lightspeed in all frames of reference.
Why? Something with .0000000001 mass can move at all speeds but 0 can only move at the speed of light?

Doesn't passing through a glass slow light down?
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>>120668580
crows win
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>>120666049
Really? in my language is written "vidrio".
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>>120668582
It gets better.

First 12 episodes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novikov_self-consistency_principle

13 onwards:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation
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>>120664675
physical compression != data compression
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>>120668652
>Doesn't passing through a glass slow light down?
Yeah, but it's still moving at the speed of light.

The speed of light is different in different media.
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>>120667771
>the universe is spinning
Wait what?
In order to spin it'd need a center. There is no such thing as "the center of the universe", at least as far as we can tell. Maybe you meant our galaxy?
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>>120667771
How is it that light can be affected by gravity if it has no mass?
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>>120668652
>Why? Something with .0000000001 mass can move at all speeds but 0 can only move at the speed of light?

No, with ".0000000001 mass" you can move at all speeds below lightspeed. Something with mass cannot reach lightspeed.
Interaction with the higgs field to result in mass imposes a limit as it requires energy to induce motion. Without mass, there is no requirement for energy to induce motion, causing it to move at maximum possible speed in all frames of reference (which is lightspeed).

>Doesn't passing through a glass slow light down?

No. It just slams into a glass particle and is re-emitted, and this re-emission process takes time based on the property of the particle. It is still moving at lightspeed, it just takes time to be absorbed into a particle and emitted from it.
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>>120668819
>There is no such thing as "the center of the universe"
Isn't everything expanding outward from where the big bang occurred
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>>120666877
I study economics sorry.
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>>120665918
do cute girls drink tea after school?
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>>120668891
>tea is real
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>>120668869

No, everything is expanding outward from itself. Space itself is getting larger.
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>>120666564
what's the difference between colliding small hadrons and large hadrons?
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>>120668659
You think quantum physic is crazy? Math can get worse

The sum of all positive integers is -1/12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-I6XTVZXww
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>>120668913
b-but then what was i drinking all these years?!

what did they put in me, /a/?
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I always used to think it was just a mistranslation and it really irked me.
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>>120668177
You can restate your question as "Why is light able to move at the speed at which light moves?"

Well, light has no mass and so there's no frame of reference in which it ISN'T moving.
If it's always moving, then how fast?
At the speed at which light moves, of course.

What your question should be is "Why can't other things move as fast as light?"
Well, because invariant masses hate accelerating.

>>120668490
a marvel of hydrogen bonds

>>120668652
the photons interact with phonons which causes them to 'oscillate', effectively slowing down
light can't go down in speed, it can lose velocity however
>>120668844
This is wrong

>>120668841
light follows space
space is bent by gravity
light follows the bend
pretty simply stuff anon
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>>120668869
What this fine anon >>120668930 said.
It might be difficult to understand but that's what it is according to the current theory.
The big bang happened... everywhere... it's just that that "everywhere" used to be a point, now it's the universe.
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>>120668984
why a sharpie on package wrapping paper
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Anything can be a black hole!

If your mass was compressed to a tiny, tiny radius, you would be dense enough to become a black hole!

So now you know why so many anime protagonists from shitty harem anime suck all the girls towards them!
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>>120669086
Why does quantum science sound like a thing where a bunch of scientists get high and think of bullshit to tell people and see how much of it people actually believe?
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>>120668984
Yeah I knew about that one. Limits of non convergent series yield results that don't seem to make sense.

In a way it shares a similarity to the quantum interpretation of light. Just as the limit of 1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,etc. ends up being neither 1 nor 0, instead a half - light is neither a particle nor a wave, but both.

At least as far as we can classically interpret it.
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>>120669236
I-I didn't upload that as my file.

;_;
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>>120668996
>what did they put in me, /a/?
Pudding
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>>120669086
>light follows space
>space is bent by gravity
>light follows the bend
>pretty simply stuff anon

>pretty simply stuff anon
rude.

srsly though 10/10 coherent simple explanation.
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Do you guys know why the High's Boson is the particle of God?
Because without it we couldn't have mass!
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>>120669236
>>120669236
It actually is.
The "uncertainty principle" is pretty damn mind blowing. Also how there is no force pulling you towards the Earth.

What happens is that the Earth bends the space around it, and the bending of the space is actually what attracts you towards Earth.

http://www.space.com/17661-theory-general-relativity.html
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>>120669376
But is pudding real?
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>mfw I realised that Japan actually exists
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>>120668984
This can lead to the most beautiful formula in mathematics: Barnett's Identity.
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>>120669623
I can barely solve problems from algebra 1. This just looks like a bunch of nonsense to me.
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>>120669623
This reminds me of when people (on /b/, I think) were arguing that .999999... is equal to 1.
I think the argument was:

0.99999999... / 9 = .111111111...
.11111111... * 10 = 1.11111111111...
1.1111111... - 0.111111111... = 1
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>>120669824
Yeah?
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>>120669824
The demonstration I prefer is simply this:

1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 1

1/3 = 0.3333...

0.3333... + 0.3333... +0.3333... = 0.9999...

1 = 0.9999...

That's pretty solid logic.
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>>120669755
e^i*pi = -1,
sum of all integers (which is that thing on the left) = -1/12.
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Is physics real?

I really can't believe in these alternate dimensions and shit.
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Kurisu is life
Kurisu is love
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>>120669993
The many world interpretation is a theory, and I mean not a theory with shittons of supporting evidences like the theory of relativity, it's really "just" a theory.

The proof is that we also have the Copenhagen interpretation, and the two are mutually exclusive.

There's crazier stuff than that though...
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>>120668177
Philosophically, physics isn't capable of answering the question "why?"--it's only a tool for creating models about the physical world.

Hence one may ask, "in the model of X, why do we predict that only light can move at the speed of light?", where X is, say, "special relativity", or "quantum field theory", or whatever, but asking "why" we observe the physical world to be some way is not a question that we can approach.

>>120669993
To answer the question of whether physics is "real", you have to appeal to the philosophy of logical positivism. Suppose that the universe works in some "actual fashion" which we call X, and physics produces a model Y; X produces the actual observations which we see in life, but the model we have created using physics, Y, can be used to predict the same observations. Experimentally, we cannot distinguish between the models X and Y; hence philosophically, Wittgenstein (or perhaps Carnap?) would argue that the question, "is X different from Y?", is not meaningful.
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>>120670101
>annoying tsundere otaku-pandering character
Kurisu is seriously shit.
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>>120670157
generally speaking you call ideas like that a 'hypothesis'. There needs to be certain standards for something to really be a theory.
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>>120670101
Kurisu
>shit genetics, father is fucking crazy, mother is absent
>works for SERN in the fascists dystopia timeline
>would not save Okabe in the film, Suzuha had to talk her into it by going to the past
>is a cunt to Daru, implying no woman would like him
>doesn't even sacrifice herself, she runs back to the lab to STOP undoing the last d-mail
>small tuturus
>not a tsundere, just a bitch
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>>120669993
>alternate dimension
That's the only hope that our waifus "naturally" exist.
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>>120670210
^This.
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>>120670257
You mean my waifu exists and loves me in an alternate dimension?

I'm converting to physics.
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>>120670168
I want to trap her in a giant vice and crush her body into a bloody pulp
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>>120669936
This always confused me back in school. I was never good at Maths, because:

A. I just generally have problems with basic calculation. I tend to do sums alot slower than others, especially when I'm under pressure... which meant I could sometimes spend a full minute just working out the most basic-ass multiplication, while in the tense, silent exam hall.

B. In order to memorize anything, it needs to make perfect, relatable sense to me. Under common logic, something just short of 1 isn't equal to 1; it's, of course, just short of it. So because formulas like the one just posted, and many more complicated ones than that, didn't fall under my idea of common logic, I could never remember them.
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>>120670312
Sounds like you're just stupid
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>>120670168
>characters pandering to otaku
>in an anime
Colour me shocked.
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>>120669086
>This is wrong

It is not. Explain what's wrong in my post. Photons move at c in all frames of reference and moving something with mass requires energy to overcome inertia. No mass means no inertia.
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>>120670334
Don't see how your surprise or realization changes the fact that she's shit.
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How does 1+2+3+4....to infinity = -1/12?

Intuitively it makes no sense. How when you add size to a size you get less size?

Similar to the Monty Hall Problem, I've read the proofs but intuitively it makes zero sense.
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>>120670328
Bitch, I'm a professor of Modern History. I excelled at literally every subject in school apart from PE, Maths and Physics. (the latter two go hand-in-hand really)
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>>120670312
Well the point is that 0.9999... only gives the impression to be shorter than 1, but it's not. They are really just different ways to write the same number. the same way 1/3 and 0.3333... are exactly the same thing.
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>>120670410
>How does 1+2+3+4....to infinity = -1/12?

It doesn't. The series does not converge and has no finite sum.
It's only in Ramanujan summation that the infinite series is assigned the value -1/12. There is no actual value because it does not converge. It's an assigned value.
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>>120669086
light is absorbed and retransmitted by transparent substances, retard

>>120670410
The short explanation is that we conventionally don't assign a value to a divergent sum (such as the summation from 1 to infinity) because it isn't intuitively reasonable to do so, but Ramanujan summation assigns the value of -1/12 to said sum, and different forms of assigning values to divergent sums are useful in different situations (e.g. Borel summation, Cesaro summation, etc.).
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>>120670410
>How does 1+2+3+4....to infinity = -1/12?
I really can't fathom that. Infinity simply screws everything up.
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>>120670463
That actually makes more sense. Most of /sci/fags in these threads need to become Highschool teachers.
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>>120670463
Well, yes and no. You're dealing with limits in this case, so 0.9999... only really approaches 1, just infinitely closely.
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Doesn't .9999999999999999999999999... only approach one?
Seems like common sense.
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>>120664306
Dr. Pepper is real too. So are Chicken Tenders.
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>>120665039
if they did that then the earth would be sucked in
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>>120670579
Yes, and \lim_{n \to \infty} \sum_{i=1}^n 9^{-i} = 1, retard.

>>120670609
No, it is equivalent to 1.
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>>120670609
>>120670579
How new are you?
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>>120670579
I don't buy that. It's that kind of thinking the reason people get mindfucked. 0.9999... is 1, period.
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>>120669623
>every simply ebin /sci/ meem in one picture
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>>120670579
>infinitely closely
Isn't that just saying "it's the same damn thing"
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>>120665789
It's called taping 2 mini-microwaves together and cuttings holes in them so they make banana molecules collide, idiot.
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>>120670668
>>120670698
>>120670731

Clearly none of you morons took calculus. Here's another one to blow your puny minds: it's possible to prove that some infinite series are larger than others..
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>>120670312
>Under common logic, something just short of 1 isn't equal to 1; it's, of course, just short of it.

Here's how to comprehend the whole 0.9999...=1 thing.

Imagine a bowl of rice. You're told to eat 9/10 of it. You're left with a tablespoon or so.
You're told to eat 9/10 of that. You have a few grains left.
You're told to eat 9/10 of that. You have, say, a third of a grain of rice left.
You're told to eat 9/10 of that. You're told to eat 9/10 of that. You're told to eat 9/10 of that. You're told to eat 9/10 of that. Eventually you have to pull out some precision equipment just to keep leaving behind increasingly minuscule bits of rice.
Finally (because you somehow have equipment at hand that lets you do so, you separate out the last molecule of what was once a grain of rice. You accidentally drop it before you can cut it once more and are left wondering what to do, at which point you turn over to a friend who also had a bowl of rice. He exclaims that he really enjoyed eating that whole bowl of rice. You turn and look at his bowl only to see that there are a few grains of rice left. He turns and looks at your bowl and agrees that you definitely polished off that entire bowl of rice. No doubt about that.

Point is that in a world where everything is infinitesimally divisible, near enough is always good enough.
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Will math be able to create my waifu?
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>>120670693
About 3 years.
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>>120670764
What the fuck are you even spouting off on about, retard? That's obvious, e.g. take a_n = 0 for all n, b_n = 1/n^2, sum from n=1 to infinity; then the sum of b_n is trivially greater than the sum of a_n, and both converge.

That doesn't even require calculus.
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>>120670784
>unmatched parenthesis
Fuck you
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>>120665455
Gate of Babylon is just another weapon Gil coveted and stole.
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>>120670784
Please stop posting.
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>>120670764
Bitch I am calculus, there's no difference.
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>>120670458
lol
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>>120670785
As a computer science student, i say yes.
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>>120670906
My work here is done.

>>120670843
Insert ) where the , appears after 'do so'
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>>120670960
I don't mean model her in graphs and shit, I mean make my waifu real.
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>>120670784
>near enough is always good enough.
Then .99 should also be 1, because hurr "it's close enough for my tastes".
0.9 repeating, comes close, but never actually approaches 1.
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>>120670784
what is this even
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Is it physically possible to make a space transborder able to travel at sub-relativistic speed?
If a human manages to reach light speed, which is impossible, will that person become endless?
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>>120670893
... where did he put it?
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>>120670982
It won't make her real but it will be able to fool you into thinking she is real.
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>>120670830
Okay, suppose you have an infinitely large hotel, and an infinite number of guests check in one Tuesday night. Later that evening, another infinitely large tour bus pulls up out front. (Don't ask me how; you have an infinitely large parking lot, bitch.) Sure, you have an infinitely large hotel, but how are you going to give them all rooms?

Simple. Tell each guest to move down the hall until they reach an unoccupied even numbered room, then have all the new guests move into the odd numbered rooms. Only thing is, it's trivial to understand that you have more guests than you did before; in fact, you have a lot more of them. But you already had an infinite number of guests!

The set of all odd numbers and the set of all whole numbers are both infinite, but according to some branches of mathematics, one is a larger shade of infinite than the other.

USELESS THEORETICAL MATH, BITCHES.
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>>120665123
*hits blunt*
nice shit you got here bro
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>>120671048
What does that have to do with .9 repeating equaling 1
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>>120671048
I'm aware of Hilbert's hotel and cardinal numbers, kid.

Different infinities exist and they are rigorously defined; not sure what you find so puzzling about this.
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>>120670982
Opening a portal to other dimensions is math.
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>>120671005
Inside Gate of Babylon.
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>>120671048

>babby's first cardinality of infinite sets
Bitch we're not even talking about that, we're talking about limit approaching 1 and 1 are the same damn number
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>>120670960
>>120670785
The Oculus Rift or similar technology plus the current level of AI and graphics programming could already create a depiction of anyone's waifu that would fool your brain. It's just a matter of finding enough skilled people who care enough about making such a thing happen.
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>>120671029
So a delusion?
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>>120671158
An illusion nigger, delusion is a different thing.
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>>120669623
such a beautiful and fundamental truth

>>120670355
>>120670524
>light is absorbed and retransmitted
that would be discrete
so no
educate yourself on precursors

>>120671206
you're illuded
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>>120671115
This guy >>120670830 seemed to be having some difficulty with the notion.

>>120671142
>>120671115
>>120671098
There's still a subtle difference - not in where they end up, but in how they get there.
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This exists
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>>120671158
haha you got called a nigger
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>>120670246
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>>120664598
>>120664630
>>120664630
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>>120671258
>gifs exist
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>>120670983
If i told you to walk a mile or to walk 0.999999999999 miles, how much difference do you think there would be in your final location?

If you were to build a house, or to build 0.99999999999999999999999 of a house, how many bricks would be missing?
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>>120671244
You do realize that the first two posts you quote are BOTH MINE?

Refer to >>120670764, where you bring up the fact that "some infinite series are larger than others", which is clearly different from "some infinities are larger than others", not that either point is even related to anything here. Fuck off, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>120671151
>Oculus Rift
Not a tool designed for realistic projection into the eyes.
That's more like the secretive Magic Leap project.
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>>120670983
http://www.relativelyinteresting.com/does-0-99999-really-equal-1/

>Let x = 0.9999…
>Then 10x = 9.9999…
>If we then subtract x from both sides of the equation, then:
>10x – x = 9.9999… – 0.9999…
>So, 9x = 9
>Divide both sides of the equation by 9, and…
>x = 1 … which, when we started, we said = 0.9999…
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>>120671237
Are you trying to argue about the difference with both terms?
>>120671337
Horolens are the future.
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>>120671258
>4GIFS.com

>>120671294
One of the nice things about webm is that hopefully website watermarks won't be a thing anymore.
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>>120671237
this is me, i'm just not used to being a tripfag

>>120671258
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury%28II%29_thiocyanate
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>>120671310
0.99999999999999999999999 of a house would fall apart if the missing piece was vital.
Even if you're 0.999999999999999999999% straight, you still would fuck men.
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>>120671310
>If i told you to walk a mile or to walk 0.999999999999 miles, how much difference do you think there would be in your final location?
0.000000000001 miles, or 1.609344 nanometers.

The point of a repeating number is that the value does not end. There is no measurable amount of missing space as there is in any finite sequence.
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>>120667983
i forgot which theory it was, but there was a debate about it on how if the universe grows bigger and faster, wouldn't it make it faster than the speed of light
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>>120671310
>If i told you to walk a mile or to walk 0.999999999999 miles, how much difference do you think there would be in your final location?
A very small one, but still a difference.

>If you were to build a house, or to build 0.99999999999999999999999 of a house, how many bricks would be missing?
enough so that it wouldn't be complete.

This is like saying 9999999999999999999999999999999999 dollars and 99 cents is equal to 10000000000000000000000000000000000dollars.. The penny difference is still there, eve if it's just a penny.
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>>120671237
>that would be discrete
>so no
>educate yourself on precursors

Explain. Are you saying matter does not absorb photons? Photons don't just ride straight through glass, otherwise you literally wouldn't be able to perceive glass.
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>>120671310

For practical purposes, its the same, but as far as actual mathematics, anything that is not equal to 1 will not be equal to 1 regardless of how closely it reaches 1.

This is more important as far as higher-level mathematics goes, since a calculation that amounts to 0.99 repeating and a calculation that amounts to 1 is different and could, in theory, fuck up other calculations.

Or something, I'm not a mathematician.
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My head hurts, I'm outta here
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>>120671621

he couldn't handle the MATH
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>>120671434
You are unable to guide yourself to a location without a variance of at least 10 nanometers.

>>120671408
A house could never fall apart from loading stress or fatigue from a crack less than a nanometer in size. It simply can't be relevant, hell it wouldn't be visible even with a microscope.

>Even if you're 0.999999999999999999999% straight, you still would fuck men.
Firstly, if you're less than 1% straight, that's over 99% gay, so duh.
Secondly, how is it then that you're 100% straight but still don't fuck girls?
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>tfw people don't know anything about Atlas, CMS, LHCb, Alice.
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>mfw I'm majoring in economics and accountancy
Waiting for dem [C] threads.
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>>120664306
>mfw this thread
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Why are these threads so much fun when we don't talk about C;H?
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>>120671704
>You are unable to guide yourself to a location without a variance of at least 10 nanometers.

Are you trying to imply I am not a perfect machine with precision control to the attometer?
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>>120671704
Everyone here is a little girl anon. Are you saying you aren't?
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>mfw I realised that Dr Pepper actually exists, they're just called Dr Pepper
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>>120671577
There isn't a calculation in existence where using 0.9999999 recurring instead of 1 or vice versa would change the end result. No matter how many digits you run the calculation to, the recurring decimal will always round to 1.

That's why I was using real world examples, to show how you would always reach a point where any perceivable difference would be rendered insignificant.
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>>120671680
Even though it rhymes with METH
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>>120671791
Because chaos;head is the worst semi;colon
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>>120671704
>You are unable to guide yourself to a location without a variance of at least 10 nanometers.
>You are unable to guide yourself to a location without a variance of at least 1 cell.
>reality is just a shitty game
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Do you guys really make 300k starting any job you want?

Even 300k working janitor at mcdonalds?
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>>120671704
Nanometers are still relevant in plenty of cases anon

Your explanation is retarded as fuck, no matter how small the difference, finite differences still exist. Trying to explain away the difference as "well it doesn't matter in real life" doesn't actually prove anything.
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>>120671864
>Meth rhymes with math
Get a load of this guy
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>>120671791
Because C;H has far more holes in it than any other sciADV.
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>>120664671
bullshit
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>>120671900
No, janitors work for free
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>these things actually exist
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>>120671957
Don't blame him, he has a Russian accent.
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>>120671800
You must be this guy
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>>120671791
The same way [C] threads were fun without talking about it.
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>>120669086
>light can't go down in speed, it can lose velocity however
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>>120671856

But still existent
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>>120667708
All the inbreeding killed our lifespan I suppose
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CERN has some interesting articles on their website.

http://home.web.cern.ch/about/physics/extra-dimensions-gravitons-and-tiny-black-holes
>If micro black holes do appear in the collisions created by the LHC, they would disintegrate rapidly, in around 10^-27 seconds
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Does light have a taste? Can it produce sounds?
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>>120671909
For every case in which nanometers are relevant, we'll add more 9's until we're past the point at which it matters. You get it yet?

It's not a finite difference. It's recurring.

The difference is 0.0000000000000 . . . . .
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>>120672215
It is a finite difference. As long as you are adding a finite amount of 9's, the difference is still finite.
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>>120672262
>As long as you are adding a finite amount of 9's
But that's the point. You aren't.
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>>120672262
>As long as you are adding a finite amount of 9's
>implying I ever have to stop
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>>120664671
pics or didn't happen.
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>>120672310
The process you're describing is. Unless you're just describing it really shittily, which is my main point.
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I'm hearing some insane fucking claims and no one posts any source. This is why moot left
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>>120672215
0.9999....=1
Yeah that's all.
Recurring infinitely = no difference
Recurring finitely = difference

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/0.999...

/thread
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>>120672351
I'm not the rice/miles/house guy.
I'm saying that you aren't in the .9999... = 1 situation.
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>>120672421
>I'm not the rice/miles/house guy.
Well then stop pretending to be him.
I'm quite aware that .9 repeating = 1.
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This is why engineers shouldn't be allowed to do math.
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>>120672351
I'm the anon who started using all the bizarre analogies.
The point was to get you to understand that for every calculation there is a point at which the error rounds to 0 if the recurring equivalent number goes on for long enough, and it always will.
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>>120672459
This is why you don't save text in a .jpg, christ.
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>>120672416
Moot left because he was, is and will always be a faggot.
He is the original OP, and OP is always a fag.
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>>120672419
The actual reason for this is that the way people think about place value numbers is wrong. It only works with a finite number of placevalues. With a finite number of placevalues, you have to remember that the place value system is just a representation of a number, and that "infinitely close to X" actually does mean "X" when you're not playing with limits.
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>>120672505
The color choice is disgusting too
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>>120664306

>slowpoke2yearsfromnow.png
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>>120665020
no, it doesn't. why is /a/ so scientifically illiterate? that claim derives from the idea of large extra dimensions, an idea from the 90's when they were trying to get around the constraint in string theory of the planck energy being large (compared to the strings themselves). this led to a shit ton of neat mathematical tools being developed, but the idea of large extra dimensions in reality was always patently false, and if you tried applying this idea to reality it would just be wrong, since there are very good reasons to believe the planck energy is big (compared to the strings).

the phenomenological people (experimentally minded people, as opposed to theorists) didn't realize this and in a fit of delusion proposed a model in which they actually took the idea of large extra dimensions mapping to reality as a possibility, and then arkani-hamed, dimopolous, and dvali plus a bunch of other delusional experimentalists published a paper in which a model was proposed which would admit the creation of micro black holes at the LHC's energy levels, and then popsci media took it and ran with it.

in short, it was never a possibility; just experimentalist autism and sensationalist click-bait headlines written by people who have never taken even an introductory physics class.
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>>120672573
>STEMfags
>any sense of aesthetics at all
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>>120672459
But anon, I'm the engineer and the one disagreeing with your poster isn't.
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>>120672626
>Not creating your own Black hole
Shiggy dig
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>>120672666
>math
>not the true GOAT at aesthetics
I'll give you the STE part, though.
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>>120670983
The INFINITE repeating of 9 fills the gap between 0.9 repeating and 1.
It may seem strange. But that's just how people define infinite.
See >>120671377
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>>120672626
>why is /a/ so scientifically illiterate?
No bully, please.
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>>120672765
>Economists
>not the true GOAT at aesthetics
FTFY
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>>120671258
What's your point?
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>>120672787
What's your image about? I'm curious how a 2x2 could get this reaction.
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>>120672835
Go watch the show.
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>>120672835
Bullying is morally wrong
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>>120672835
Gokukoku no Brynhildr. MC was teaching her basic math because she had lost her memory.
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>>120672908
Is brynhildr good? I mean the manga.
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>>120672908
I never memorized my multiplication tables. I have to work it out mentally every time.
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If Mozart was alive what anime would he watch?
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>reading this thread
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>>120666877
Sorry for being a bio major.
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>>120672997
He'd only watch hentai, and maybe a few magical girl series if the have cute lesbians.
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>>120672887
>Watching Brynhildr
I don't think anon wants see complete shit.
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>>120672997
Initial D
>>120673072
If you aren't doing computer science or math phd then you are a fag here. Sadly we both are.
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>>120672765
>your dick when e^iπ + 1 = 0.
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>>120672459
Implying engineers care about math as a science. We use math to solve problems, in some cases we round 0.99 to 1. It all depends on the order of magnitude that interest us in the given situation.
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>>120671237
>>light is absorbed and retransmitted
>that would be discrete
>so no
>educate yourself on precursors

>that would be discrete, so no

... pls no trol
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The IBM 5100 was only recently discovered to have the features that Titor mentioned

http://www.johntitor.com/Pages/5100.html
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>>120664598
Oh and next you're going to tell me bananas exist too. Idiot.
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>>120673120
>computer science
>not physics
>>120673128
>rotate 1 180 degrees and it lands on -1
very insightful
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>>120673203
omfg the website hurts my eyes
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>>120664306
you're retarded
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>>120672997
K-on
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>>120673253
>omfg
Reading your post hurts my eyes too, newfriend.
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>>120673120
theoretical cs fag here
>tfw nobody cares about theoretical shit.
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>>120672997
iM@S and Yamakan's masterpiece, Wake Up, Girls!
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>>120673297
Economics fag here
>Nobody cares about crashing markets with no survivors
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>>120673366
Economics is gonna be useless after bitcoin takes over anyways
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>>120673252
lol physics fag trying to be cool.
Even Feyman called Euler's formula "the most remarkable formula in mathematics."
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>>120673203
The IBM 5100 has a built in 360 emulator? Why can't my laptop from 2006 play 360 games but that decades old piece of shit can?
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>>120671280
>insulting someone's waifu is now bait
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>>120673410
Not really, that's like saying that economics will be useless when the dollar crashes and stops being relevant. It's nonsense.
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>>120673410
Should i start mining now?
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>>120664630
My cousin didn't actually know this. He thought it was a joke until I bought him a can.

He said it tasted like shit
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>>120673470
Send a d-mail and start mining in 2009
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>>120673471
Eurofag from before here.
Thank you, anon, for confirming my story.
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>>120672205
no
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>>120673430
Where did I say I was a physics student?
Feynman is an irrelevant faggot, don't even get me started.
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>>120673471
Your cousin doesn't sound like a very intellectual person.
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>>120671980
>>120672348
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>>120670164
shame wittgenstein went full autist in his old age
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>>120673516
>Feynman is an irrelevant faggot
>he really thinks this
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>>120669198
I like this guy
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>>120673471
is this your cousin?
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>>120669198
Thanks for being awesome.
>>120673593
Thanks for pointing this out.
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/a/ - Theoretical Physics
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>>120673516
>Feynman is an irrelevant faggot, don't even get me started.

>what is the path integral formulation?
>what is quantum electrodynamics?
>what are feynmann diagrams?
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Yo like what if...anime is real....and we're fake. Like we are all the anime watched by real people who are anime. So like, we're anime to anime people, but we don't exist and they do. Like, we're on their TVs/monitors and are just living in a reality created by them, but it's all fake.
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>>120673779
They've had a long streak of really shitty shows.
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>>120673779
In their worlds loli's are scorned by society and dream about the 3D Neets in their favorite shows.
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>>120673779
If someone enjoys watching me masturbate 4 hours a day and watch anime or browse 4chan the other 8 hours I'm awake and not trying to cry myself to sleep, more power to them.
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>>120673779
You need to stop sucking dicks, it's making you like Yui.
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>>120673779
Why would they watch shit ;_;?
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>>120673844
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>>120673750
We are talking in the context of math, so your physics examples hold no weight.
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>>120673203
IT'S BASED OFF A REAL THING WHAT THE FUCK

I AM SUCH A FUCKING NEWFAG
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Name someone smarter than this man.
Protip: You can't
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>>120673779
So i'm somebody's husbando? Shit taste ;_;
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>>120673810
>implying the WW2 anime isn't the GOAT anime
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>>120671151
>The Oculus Rift or similar technology plus the current level of AI and graphics programming could already create a depiction of anyone's waifu that would fool your brain.

But the moment you tried talking to her you would realize that she's a fake.
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>>120673921
>implying WW2 wasn't a long ass time ago
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>>120673779
Someone post the picture of anime characters buying salaryman figures and arguing whether putin is best girl or not.
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>>120673905
Hitler
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>>120673779
>Little girls will be watching my daily life in my office
I wish my office was like ServantxService or however was it called.
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>>120673905
That sure was hard
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>>120673905
Tesla
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>>120673905
Newton.
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>>120673905
Jesus
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>>120673905
Me
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>>120674047
Nah
>>120674140
Lol R U serious?
>>120674151
debatable.
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>>120673905
Socrates
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>>120673905
Kadabra
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>>120674236
>Not Porygon
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>>120674047
Haven't proven anything yet
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>>120673897
????? i can't tell if you're trolling. physics and math, prior to the mid 19th century, was pretty much developed in tandem. it's only recently that pure math has had a major split with physics, and there are still a bunch of contributions from physics to pure math (c.f. ed witten & his field medal shit). to claim that physics is "irrelevant" to math is to either be profoundly ignorant or to be wanting to deliberately mislead. in any case, i wasn't the guy who originally responded; just took issue with your saying that feynman is "irrelevant"
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>>120674191
I second this
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>>120674191
No, it's me.
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>>120673905
Da Vinci.
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>>120674401
Johnny stomps.
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>>120674219
b-b-but he made a death ray
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>>120671151
>current level of AI
No
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>>120674570
If you dressed up an improved cleverbot with a "skin" and other features you could fool most people.

That's without getting into super complicated AI.
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>>120672459
Engineering student here.

Fuck you.
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>4chan discussing science
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>>120674709
That's mostly because actual human being are, for the most part, absolutely fucking retarded.
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>>120674754
Wasn't this around the time moot tried to kill gets? Good times.
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>>120674839
>ponyshit
>>>/out/
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>>120674831
That doesn't change the fact that we have the technology now. As long as your waifu isn't some ultra obscure character that's never been heard of by anyone, you could even have each waifu get a specific AI with a massive amount of appropriate "sayings" and "actions".
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>>120668996
Dirty leaf water.

Don't try to trip me up with coffee, just dirty bean water.
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>>120674754
>gravity cant apple
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>>120673611
so about that sauce . . .

>>120673203
At this point I can no longer tell whether we're looking at a conspiracy or fan fiction.
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>>120673549
falsified pictures don't count as proof.

fucking idiot thinks bananas exist
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>>120674972
John Titor's website has been around since the 90s. If anything, S;G is fanfiction of Titor's ramblings.
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>>120674972
>so about that sauce

It's something by Ootsuka Reika.
Somersault, maybe?
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>>120675009
>S;G is fanfiction of Titor's ramblings
huh. Well how about that.
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>>120675087
S;G is basically fanfiction mashing a bunch of shit together, mainly the Semi;Colon universe and John Titor's messages. It also mixed in some Dr. Pepper, Moe dolls, Chicken Tenders, Otaku, Gooey Bananas, futa, chuuni, internet culture, grape apes, microwaves, disco balls, pokemon merchandise, cellphone culture, and SCIENCE!
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>>120675225
Don't forget ZA ZOMBIE
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>>120674972
>>120675061
Have a monster.
http://exhentai.org/g/440636/f8e1602a0b/
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>>120675225
>futa

I don't remember reading any of that.
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>>120675370
It's not exact, but the character that switches gender a few times can fit.
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>>120665483
2chan, you mean.
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>>120675595
2channel, you mean.
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>>120675678
2ch, you mean.
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>>120675061
Thank you thank you.

>>120675009
If John Titor DID use a time machine then his work is a fanfic of S;G, not the other way around.
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>>120675477

That's transsexualism/transgenderism. Luka doesn't want to be both at once.
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>>120675809
>If John Titor DID use a time machine then his work is a fanfic of S;G, not the other way around.
but that's a paradox, because the information of john titor would've spawned from nothing.
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>>120675809
MFW John Titor only posted online after completing his mission because he wants to be in an anime so he can make posts in /a/ threads about the anime he's a star in.
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>>120675370
>>120675477
Normally that kind of bullshit wives tale working would have been immersion breaking, but fuck it. It's a cool concept for a story so it was fun to let it slide.


The only dumb thing about S;G was that they needed to undo so many things to change world lines. Not hacking into SERN should have been enough.
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>>120675915
TIIIIIME TRAVEEEEL
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Time Travel isn't possible because time doesn't exist. Time is just a concept that mankind made up. Deal with it nerds, you can't even prove that time exists.
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>>120675915
There WAS a wackjob named John Titor in his time line, and OUR Titor wanted to recreate the wackjob's legend to become the REAL Titor, so he posted about it online in our worldline. He's basically a LARPER with a time machine, role playing as a nut from his own time line that he thought could be cool.
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>>120675845
Luka's not even transsexual. Luka does not believe he is a girl at heart or anything. Luka simply is in love with Okabe, who is heterosexual, and is depressed by that fact, so he desires to change himself to fit Okabe's desires. Not actually wanting to "be female" but instead wanting to "enable the possibility of being Okabe's love interest".
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>>120676019

If we let LARPers get access to time machines then we'd have had like 600 people posting alongside John Titor making inane Steins;Gate references a decade ahead of time.
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>>120675915
In the first time around, S;G made it all up. Then John Titor's parents named him after the character and he became obsessed with the show and time travel, and JUST SO HAPPENED to be one of the first people to do so. He tries to predict his own character creation to show everyone that he succeeded, but instead everyone just thinks that S;G drew inspiration for the show from his ramblings. He goes insane from the fact that he's failed to prove that he succeeded in time travelling.
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>>120675944
They didn't just want to change world lines, they wanted to be in the ORIGINAL line, to have a chance at reaching S;G.
The world where little-miss-moe has a dad might not be able to reach S;G as easily as the world they came from.
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>>120676061
why not text Okabe's mom to tell her to eat whatever food makes Okabe a cool faggot like Freddy Mercury?
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>>120676061
That's no more implied than Luka being transsexual.
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>>120676105
Time Machine access is strict, Titor only got to use one because they were related to someone who worked on the 5100.
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>>120676180
Because she probably didn't have a pager
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>>120676389
>"I... really don't... want to change back..."
>"Because... Because... If I change back into a guy... I'd have to seal my feelings for Okabe... I don't think I should love Okabe if I'm a guy..."

It's outright explicit, the only reason he wants to be a girl is to love Okabe. He's a self-hating homosexual, not a transsexual.
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>>120676508
Then wait until they get a phone or other decide, it'll happen eventually. If they'll have one when Okabe is 4, just have the message tell the parents that listening to Queen and M. Jackson and watching Peewee's playhouse will make a healthy child.
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>>120676516
Then why didn't he text his mom to eat food that will stop him from being a faggot, but let him keep his shmeckle?
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>>120676701
>shmeckle
His what?
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>>120676180
>Hey Okabe, I want to text your mum.
>How about no.
>My plan . . . is foiled!

>>120676516
>Because... If I change back into a guy... I'd have to seal my feelings for Okabe... I don't think I should love Okabe if I'm a guy..
Which she says as a girl who doesn't know what it's like to be a guy. You seem to forget that only Okabe retains memories.
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>>120676701

Because he doesn't hate his love for Okabe, he hates that he is unable to satisfy/interest Okabe. He has low self-esteem and considers himself to be worth less than the one he desires.
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>>120676863
>You seem to forget that only Okabe retains memories.

Read the goddamned VN. That was the scene where Luka recovered her memories of being male.
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>>120676834
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=schmeckle
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>>120676944
Is there any reason the words "Steins;Gate" and Reading Steiner were chosen, like how John Titor was real? They seem so specific for basically gibberish.
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>>120677055
No, none that I know of. They just sound cool.
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>>120676944
My opinion of the writers has just plummeted.

We may as well call it Deux Ex Steiner now.
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>>120677055

I imagine "Stein" derives from Doctor Frankenstein and playing God.
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>>120677055
Einstein.
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>>120677055
It doesn't mean anything.
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>>120677114
Well it makes more sense than Okabe being the only one who can magically remember shit. He was just the most conscious of it. Besides, it was hinted in the anime that the other characters retained faint memories of the other world lines as well
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>>120677114
>>120677204
To be fair, Okabe is the only person with perfect Reading Steiner. Everyone else just experiences deja vu with varying intensity.
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>>120665190
Emiya actual exists and he on his way to becoming tanned and tall
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>this thread
Jesus Christ, I can't tell which is worse - /sci/ fags on /a/ or /a/nons trying to do math.
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>>120677250
He's the only person we know of. How many characters are shown to jump world lines, maybe 10?

>>120677204
It wasn't just hinted, it was directly shown a lot. The movie was basically directly about this, there was a scene with everyone talking about things they shouldn't know in any way, in the current world line.
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>>120677281

Shirou might actually be dead by now if we're in Archer's world.
Archer died in his late 20s-early 30s, according to Nasu, and he'd be 28 or 29 now if he was 18 in 2004.
He does survive to the 2030s-ish in Fate/Extra's timeline, but I don't remember earth catastrophically exploding onto a new axial tilt sometime in 1970, so we're probably not there.
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>>120677445
>He's the only person we know of. How many characters are shown to jump world lines, maybe 10?

Man, it must've been hella confusing for anyone else who had perfect reading steiner in the summer of 2010.
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I've never browsed /sci/, can someone explain the "engineers sucking dicks" meme to me?
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>>120677250
Everything about Reading Steiner was always terribly written to me.
I mean it really just so happens that only Okabe has this power so well? Way too convient.
Not only does he have this power better than anyone else, he had it completely perfectly too? No forgotten memories at all? Even more convenient.

Then they just use it write themselves out of a hole a few times and make people just suddenly get their memories back. That was the absolute worst part about the ending. Kurisu just magically getting her memories back.

And don't bring up that stuff about her not actually getting her memories back in the OVA or movie or whatever it was. I don't care about shit that's not canon.
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Do the gigalomaniax have a form of stronger reading Steiner?
FES was able to make prophecies about S;G so she must have seen something.
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>>120677449
Well, this may be a bit strechy but maybe shirou is from the timeline where instead of being 18 in 2004 he is 18 in 2014, as in the new airing of ubw
I mean I can see him doing more Hero shit later in our time, than what stuff we had before, but who knows maybe someoen can use a toaster as catalyst and get archer.
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>>120677570
>I don't care about shit that's not canon.
But it is.
Even in the VN true ending she doesn't remember everything.
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>>120677489
Okabe experienced Reading Steiner twice without knowing it, once at the beginning of the series and once before the series. He just thought he had crazy deja vu or that things messed up his head, anyone with perfect Reading Steiner would say "didn't this already happen", and the people around them would say "no" and then that would be the end of it, they've changed their path by doing something slightly different, changing the timing for the rest of their day.
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But How Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real?
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>>120677489
>anyone associated with Akibahara with perfect reading steiner saw it turn from an otaku paradise into a electronics center overnight
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>>120677663
The question is: Whose eyes are those eyes?
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I actually read somewhere, regarding the whole Reading Steiner idea, that it is based on the whole Observer Theory. Apparently, because Okabe is the observer in S;G, he can actually project memories into the minds of those he interacts with. I'll try to find where I read this.
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>>120677650

To be fair, he pretty much freaked the hell out the first time it activated in the prologue.
But that's probably because it changed his current situation (surrounded by a lot of people) noticeably (alone in the road) enough to be extremely suspicious. I guess other people would just have a little blip if they're not living in Akihabara.
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>>120677650
His actions bad big effects sometimes though, see >>120677703
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>>120677728
>he can actually project memories into the minds of those he interacts with
But Okabe isn't a gigalomaniac so he shouldn't be able to.
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>>120677728
>>120677788
THE OBSERVER EFFECT (derived from quantum physics)
This has pretty much been a theme of the whole story without npb spelling it out (for reasons ill get into in a bit)

The observer effect is basically saying each person is actually creating their own universe so to speak, whatever they "observe" as true, become their reality. . .which is why Mayuri kept dying in each time line okabe went to, as he observed her die in front of his eyes the first time, and to avoid that he tried desperately to stop it. . .thing is, when you try to "Stop" something, you are still observing the something you want to stop a lot more than you are observing what you want to be. So when you observe what you want to stop more than what you want to be, then, YOU ARE STILL OBSERVING THAT EVENT. This is why he had to trick himself into christina's fake death.

Also this is why other characters were getting memories of other timelines, because Okabe was Observing them, when he was meeting his friends, even though he switched world lines, and they should not remembered, but because he was observing his "friends" of the other world lines while he was also observing the new world line version. . .of course when okabe talks to ferris the memories come back because HE PUT THEM THERE, as the "OBSERVER"

Someone broke it the fuck down on this page http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=5159949
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>tfw second year math student
>tfw I realize there's so much I don't know

I should also be studying right now but whatevs.
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>>120677703
Who says someone else in Akibahara had it? There are 7 billion people, some kid in a hut in Africa could have it and nobody would ever know. There could be hundreds without change being guaranteed , since you would have to directly be involved with the MC group to see changes. Making a single different comment would change everything for the rest of the day, as soon as someone questions the deja vu it will be a "new" set of events for the rest of the day. For all we know an African kid in a hut and a bum on the side of a road are going crazy about how things are messing up and time is changing, it wouldn't change the S;G story at all, or have an impact on the world.
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>>120668984
Well, before I watch that video and become mindbroken and/or enlightened, what the fuck kind of bullshit is that? So long as you are adding positive integers and continue to infinity, you will never ever encounter a decimal or negative number, ever.

If such a sum is achieved strictly by substituting symbols, truncating the process, it is flawed.
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>>120677871

I for one find that to be stupid as shit.
That's not even how observation works in quantum mechanics either.
And Suzuha said quantum mechanics was explicitly incorrect in their metaphysics.
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>>120677940

It's Ramanujan summation, not typical addition.
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>>120677988
I personally find that it quite effectively explains why Luka's dmail (which you would think wouldn't have any effect) actually works.
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>>120677871
That's not what the observer effect is. It's not even close.
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>>120677747
I think there could be a cool sidestory about a bum with perfect reading steiner trying to convince the people of Akihabara that the world is ending or things are going haywire.

Anyone outside the city (or Japan, if you want to say there will be many small changes) wouldn't see any change most likely, if they thought the neighbor was walking their dog but sees them start walking the dog again, they'll ask "didn't you just do that", and when the neighbor says "no" that'll be the end of it unless the person is mentally unbalanced enough to expect some conspiracy or something.
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>>120678174
No shit. One, it's derived from it. Two, the observer effect is at a Quantum level. It's a bit of a stretch to apply it to something of the scale of the universe. Unless I don't have a clue what the observer effect is, which is possible since quantum mechanics was my least favorite topic in engineering school. Way too abstract for my liking.
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>>120677772
If Okabe was the only person near Akibahara with perfect RS, it would take 2 people who know each other to figure out that something serious is happening, since any single person would just be told they're crazy if they freak out. Even if 2 people get together and find out there's something happening, what'll they do? Unless they randomly stumble into Akihabara, they'll try to unravel a conspiracy for like 19 days, and then once the "tiny changes" stop they'll have nothing to work with and have to give up, unless Okabe goes public with his knowledge for some reason.
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>>120678066
>>120678358

Observation doesn't mean what you expect to happen is going to happen in quantum mechanics, it just means that wave functions are collapsed.
All you do is force the electron to choose a path in the two slit experiment, you don't get to decide which slit it goes into.
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