Good and bad news this week. The good, dropping Attack on Titan for the night increased the ratings across the board immensely showing us numbers we haven't seen in months. Also, the schedule change was completely unadvertised outside of Tumblr which makes the numbers look even better
The bad, apparently they still aren't good enough, because before the hour cut for 1/31 could even take place Toonami has lost 3:30-5:30 AND 11:30 starting 2/7. Cutting Toonami down to a mere 3 and 1/2 hour 12-3:30 run. Kill la Kill will still start on 2/7 at 12:30
With that, here are the ratings
11:30 Dragon Ball Z Kai 0.8 1321
12:00a Naruto: Shippuden 0.7 1000
12:30a Inuyasha: The Final Act 0.6 865
1:00a One Piece 0.6 858
1:30a Gurren Lagann 0.5 747
2:00a Deadman Wonderland 0.5 733
2:30a Bleach (r) 0.5 708
3:00a Space Dandy 0.5 681
3:30a Cowboy Bebop 0.4 627
4:00a Ghost in Shell: 2nd Gig 0.4 606
4:30a IGPX: Immortal Grand Prix 0.4 601
5:00a Samurai Jack 0.5 663
I don't watch the new Toonami, and I'm not really interested in most of the shows other than CB, IGPX, GitS,
and Samurai Jack,but I don't have a problem with Toonami threads being on /a/, it doesn't violate any rules at all.
I've got mixed feelings about Toonami. On one hand, there isn't really any reason to bother watching anime on television any more and dubs are usually shit. On the other hand, it was probably Toonami and Adult Swim that got me so interested in anime in the first place.
>Toonami is /co/ related.
I'd really like to hear you attempt to explain this. No really, take a crack at it, I'm all ears.
This thread is not about anime. It's programming information about Cartoon Network. Just because the information in question is titles of anime doesn't make it appropriate for this board.
>dubed anime airing on American television
>having anything to do with /a/
uh... because it's anime?
we're allowed to talk about how CR is affecting anime right?
we're allowed to talk about how netflix is affecting anime right?
what's the difference?
Its not to do with that it is not anime. But its fucking Western favorite dubbed anime why the fuck would you think /a/ would want it here?
Mods decreed that discussion of dubs and the appeal of dubbed anime on /a/ is verboten and belongs on /co/.
Kill la Kill coming in February, though I don't know why they're airing it at 12:30 after DBZ Kai. Seriously, DBZ Kai is probably one of the most boring anime in this whole block.
The bigger problem is that with DBZ Kai, Shippudenn, One Piece, and Inuyasha, 2 of their 3 hours are just long-running shounen anime from years back.
>using 3DPD reaction images
>lol ratings for a shitty western TV station are anime related
It's completely irrelevant because the only people still watching it are nostalgia circlejerkers who love dubs and casual shit
Not really, in this day and age when there are plenty of both legal and "illegal" ways to watch anime within hours of it airing in japan Toonami is a fucking dinosaur, only pandering to extreme casuals and neckbeard nostalgia faggots who haven't realized that the 90s are over
As I agree that if more were into anime we'd get more shows aimed at a western audience and anime would benefit from the western market greatly, /a/ is the wrong place to try to preach this. You really should just keep this on /co/.
>the only people still watching it are nostalgia circlejerkers who love dubs and casual shit
Of course. But I was a casual shit once, too. And I'm sure most of /a/ was at one point.
$6 million US so that they can actually bid on anime or fund true simuldubs.
Funi's got their simuldub project going on, and that might lead to some stuff getting on Toonami if it's action-y enough.
>Demarco: Toonami is not, and has never been, an anime block. It's an action cartoon block.
>It's all anime now.
>As I agree that if more were into anime we'd get more shows aimed at a western audience and anime would benefit from the western market greatly
Fucking kill yourself, why does anime need to pander to a foreign fucking market that doesn't give a shit about it?
>But I was a casual shit once, too
And? How does that make it okay for there to be toonami threads? Not everyone is american.
>But I was a casual shit once, too. And I'm sure most of /a/ was at one point.
>implying my first run in with anime wasn't a gore-filled OVA at the tender age of 6
Good bless my local video rental joint and them putting that shit in the cartoons section
This thread is pathetic. A guy asks why it isn't related to /a/, actually giving a oppertunity for you to explain yourself and not even 5th grade level writing is given.
You just give one sentence complaining that you don't like is and say fuck off.
Why did the nods say that it should be on /co/?
What you don't explain is that it was because /a/ endlessly complained about normalfags and newfags would "flood into /a/" if you allowed toonami threads. It is only because of endless and shallow complaint that you git your way even though toonami alone should be allowed here. But things have changed now. We now have Digimon ans Naruto threads successfully running everyday. There's no excuse anymore to not have toonami threads other that "I don't want it, so nobody else can have it :'("
You can't even give a paragraph.
Meh, it was nice during the 90s and early 2000s. I don't think those eras weren't without their flaws but there were series that were produced with both audiences in mind and quite a few of them were pretty good. I agree though its not a good thing or a bad thing for that matter. Its just an direction anime could possibly take in the coming years.
>bawwwwww why won't you discuss this entry level garbage with me
First time through, huge ratings. Consistently breaking 1 million Nielsen viewers.
Then it was on reruns and that dropped down to roughly 700,000 because everyone had watched it before.
>why does anime need to pander to a foreign fucking market
I never said it needed to.
Doesn't stop japan now from doing shit like that. The hell do you think attack on titan and kill la kill are?
>cry about someone being mean
>there were series that were produced with both audiences in mind
Nope, there were series that got more popular in the West.
>Doesn't stop japan now from doing shit like that
Do you really fucking think they made those series with the western market at the front of their minds?
>The hell do you think attack on titan and kill la kill are?
The fuck do you think they are? Because if you think they are shows aimed at the western audience then you are beyond retarded.
There you go. One liners that are as shallow as a drop of water on the pavement.
You sure proved me wrong.
Are you going to reply to me with only "fuck off" too?
>Why is this any different from threads about Expelled from Paradise North American? showing?
Because that's actual new fucking content, toonami has just been playing reruns of the same shit for 10 fucking years, and the only people who care are dub watching retards. Fuck off.
You got me there. Isn't it a Gonzo show? I typically avoid those unless its really decent.
Only casuals only watched this show because Toonami aired it
Didn't interest me when it originally aired.
Go back to /co/mblr you fucking retards toonami is as related to /a/ as the manga section at barnes and noble
Actually much less so, I'd prefer people made barnes and noble threads
>multiple people already pointed out that dubbed anime airing on an American channel has nothing to do with /a/
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
>implying that doesn't only boil down too
>I don't like it so everyone else can't like it or have it
What argument is that?
If I'm shitposting then you're even worse than me.
Why isn't Barnes and Noble carrying the Yuki-chan manga anyways? Don't they know the show is coming up soon?!
I think the funniest thing about these threads is that /co/ is such an irrelevant shithole with no content that they need to spill over to /a/ and shit it up
They are, though. I remember seeing it at a barnes and noble about 40 minutes away from my house. They had most of the volumes, actually. It's like with gunpla, they have a bigger selection depending on the store.
How the fuck is this shit at all anime related? My fucking local TV station airs YuGiOh episodes every Saturday morning?
Should I make a thread about my local TV station?
Just fuck off and go pester some other board with your retardation
But thats what the guy was saying would be the negative effect if the japanese made shows for the western market. You know never mind this is what I'm saying here:>>120518939 THERE IS NO DISCUSSING THIS ON /a/. Because you guys are way too in the closet on this shit.
Japan needs the government to step in and tell them what's not acceptable, you Americans are socially censorship-happy even though you're legally the most free.
Anime as it exists in Japan and much of the otaku culture could not exist in the states even if it could legally.
This conversation is about allowing Toonami on /a/. Not ratings. This guy >>120518533 changed the direction.
The mods decree was based off of /a/'s complaints before Naruto was allowed on /a/ by moot. They aren't the council of elders. They're 3rd bit police. They only enforce king moots decisions.
Great moderation team on /a/, really doing their pathetic jobs.
Local TV station doesn't = national Anime block for United Statians.
If yugioh was being played on some national block you sure as hell could refer to a live watch on the yugioh threads that pop up here.
So if I understand correctly, the new schedule will be:
Kill la Kill
Inuyasha Final Act
How long is Inuyasha? 26 episodes? Because having 4 timeslots they could put new/recent stuff in isn't too bad. Maybe put in Bahamut, T&B, etc.
There is no "eastern audience", that's the intended fucking market, you retard.
>im-fucking-playing we don't laugh at the western retards that come to shitpost against "moe" and how anime is dead
Are you sure the majority of /a/ doeesn't like dubs or is that just your projection on a diverse and unagreeable group of people? Even if so does that suddenly bar Toonami from being discussed or live watched by /a/ even when shows like Space dandy were also allowed on /a/?
Anon, moe is the most cancerous element currently present in the anime industry.
> toonami is the only way the majority of the /a/hipsters here ever watched anime without piracy
If toonami finally dies, anime in the US will be represented only by these "local TV station saturday morning ygo/Naruto"
Japan censors Jojo's Bizarre Adventure despite it airing on late night television, but let's things like No Game No life gives you cameltoe of an animated 11 year old girl. American television censors anything relating to sex and nudity yet things like Hannibal are allowed to air on prime time with no censoring of violence or dead bodies.
>/co/ wants to ban toonami threads and move it to /a/
>/a/ wants to ban toonami threads and move it to /co/
>Getting rid of One Piece as soon as it finishes the filler flashback arc
>Modern Toonami will never air the CP9 fights
That's all kinds of fucked up and hilarious
So let me ask my fellow denizens of /a/ some legit questions. What would be required of a western tv station and/or programming showing anime to meet your approval? What time-slots would be best, or 24/7? Would it be okay for them to show dubs, if they showed some subs too?
How important is it to expose the next generation of western anime lovers?
The west is shit, in terms of entertainment.
>How important is it to expose the next generation of western anime lovers?
Not at all, because if they aren't fucking retards they'll just download shit online.
It's not my fault Japan can't handle the clock ticking over past midnight and would get confused if someone said it was 12:30 am.
But anyway, my point about this is: There's a scene in Hannibal where someone cuts off their own nose and then eats it, or there's also a scene where someone cuts open the skull of a living person and then feeds them a piece of their own brain, yet this is censored in JoJo's.
Japan censorship is fucking awful.
It would have to air daily before sundown for one.
Why? Simple. Only people who browse /a/ marathon whole series in a day and some of us don't even do that. A lot of us might have four or five or six series in the backlog and watch one episode of each a day. A western timeslot showing anime needs to imitate our viewing habits on the compute enough that we just say "well, I don't need to go through the trouble waiting for my PC to load up, they're playing the episodes I was going to watch anyway."
Secondly, it would need original programming or to work out deals with distributors to air series in both the states and nip land simulatenously to prevent the episode from being on the internet for too long before it airs on Western television. This would require a greater collaboration between Japanese and American distributors and/or studios. Why am I going to bother watching a bunch of shows I can just get on Netflix or I can just download of the torrent sites at anytime. Even just playing the episode a day earlier than any fansubber can put it online can increase ratings.
Another good idea is to have simultaneous live streaming with limited ads, so people who can't make it home to the TV can just watch the shit on their phones. Also, prizes and other goodies for people who bother to watch and only those who bother watch are good incentives as well. Something like Toonami could be successful in this day and age if it wasn't so unwilling to adapt.
Tell that to Tokyo MX, faggot. http://s.mxtv.jp.e.gr.hp.transer.com/jojo3/
What kind of parents would let a child stay up and watch a show that's at 12:30 am? This doesn't explain why JoJo's is censored.
>What would be required of a western tv station and/or programming showing anime to meet your approval?
Nigga I have everything I could possibly want right the hell now. As long as my RSS autotorrent XBMC setup functions, I am fine.
I don't even fucking have a TV provider. At all.
>This would require a greater collaboration between Japanese and American distributors and/or studios.
I'm all for that. It may even, in the long run, get us some higher-quality dubs.
>What kind of parents would let a child stay up and watch a show that's at 12:30 am?
>kid stays up without his parents knowing and watches jojo
>sees heads getting ripped off and shit
I'm just saying, there's nothing wrong with Japan trying to hide that stuff. At least violence isn't publicly sanctioned like it is in the west.
gosh, I used to stay up late at night all the time and watched anime that my parents wouldn't have approved of. Why would you want to deprive the next generation of such a great growing up experience?
Say what you want about the show, but Space Dandy's dub was good even though it used a few of the same old Funi VA's. People blame the VA's, but a lot of times it's a matter of the effort put into the work by the scriptwriters and voice coaches and directors. It helps when the English and Japanese scripts are written at the same time and when there's a lot of money and time put into the English version of the show. It also helps when the VA's like the material themselves and are allowed to have fun with it.
>I used to stay up late at night all the time and watched anime that my parents wouldn't have approved of.
But now kids can just go on the internet and watch much worse things, that's my point. We don't need shitloads of gore on tv when anyone who wants to see it can find it online in two seconds
Fucking shoot yourself, I've never been to reddit. I just think that the west has it's priorities fucked up in what it does and doesn't censor. They can't say "fuck", but they can show cannibalism?
As far as I know since the Toonami revival they haven't censored anything they aired. I didn't watch Black Lagoon which was probably the show with the most questionable content they've shown so far, though. (Specifically talking about stuff like the twins or that part where Revy says "Is she taking it up the ass?"
I guess Kill La Kill will be the true test of US censorship, there's no way that scene in episode 17 doesn't get censored.
I'm saying that US television won't censor violence, though, be it in an animated form or live action form, as evidenced by shows like Hannibal.
To this day I still believe that statement about the dub lacking foreshadowing is complete bullshit. 2 seasons in and there is nothing hinting at an overarching storyline other than it doesn't matter if the characters all die in an episode or not and that one guy wants to find Dandy for unexplained reasons.
The only censorship is beeping of swear words and some things that they were forced to censor by Japan. Deadman Wonderland is one example; the episodes they were provided were pre-censored. Gurren Lagann Episode 6 was censored because Japan doesn't want to let the original bathhouse episode be broadcastin the US, so they don't even offer the airing rights to that.
Again, I don't understand this. Why should really fucked up gore be shown on public TV when I could find real gore online in a minute or two? Kids will see shit anyways, I don't know why we freak out over anything sexual yet we have no problem with showing cannibalism and mutilation at 10pm.
Yeah, beeping of swear words is understandable since they did that for Samurai Champloo on AS back in the day. (At least they made them in the theme of the show and used record scratches for the bleeps, like how Metalocalypse used bad strums)
It's just kind of funny of the double standards both Japan and the US have in regards to censorship. US doesn't like sex or nudity, yet Hannibal airs at 10PM and has realistic depictions of cannibalism and extreme violence, Japan doesn't like violence in animated shows and censors things that even air late at night, but has no qualms showing cameltoe of an 11 year old girl.
While it's not sexualised loli, Western Europe is also pretty lax on the sex stuff while looking down on violence. I'm pretty sure the sex thing is just an Anglo puritan thing because all Anglo countries seem to censor that type of stuff when they can.
>toonami plays anime and actually gets views
maybe if they hadn't been killing their fanbase for years with tom goes the mayor / sealab / ATHF / space ghost / basically everything they play that doesn't come on - on saturday
nigger if you shit talk aqua teen or space ghost c2c I will fucking cut you.
I never blame the VAs, I blame the translators and the American cowardice when it comes to what their brats watch. It's no wonder children go online when their intelligence is being insulted casually by censors and retarded Jesus freak adults imposing their bullshit morals on young minds.
I'm calling him a filthy liberal eurofag redditard for saying the west 'openly sanctions' violence because only one of those assholes would honestly believe that. We just don't fucking kid-proof everything beyond the obligatory swear words and nudity on broadcast.
>not even a week after moot's retirement
>/a/ - anime & manga
>toonami - anime
>/a/ - no toonami
This is the most retarded thing I've read in awhile.
/a/ is not /jp/.
Flawless logic, anons.
Are we allowed to talk about Japanese-dubbed Western cartoons here then?