Being here for over a year I have seen something around here and a few other sites that you people seem to hate TMS.
As what seem to be one of the few people who are willing to talk about them outside of 80s Disney, 90s Warner Bros, Pre-Ghibli Miyazaki, Dezaki in his prime & Akira most people here seem to run clear when TMS shows up on a projects.
I know some of their subcontractors are shit (Tokyo Kids, MSJ, alot of the Korean studios they use) when others are excellent (Telecom, Studio Jungle Gym, Oh Pro, Nakamura Pro, Fai) but the in house stuff is excellent as is the case with Telecom; Why hate on them?
I know of the new LilPri show, I know about Blue Jacket and I know about that thing that they doing for Disney Television Animation's 30th anniversary but other then that you guys seem to have little to no interests here (my real life friends are hyped up to the max about it).
But in short; Do otaku hate TMS?
*As what seem to be one of the few people who are willing to talk about them outside of 80s Disney, 90s Warner Bros, Pre-Ghibli Miyazaki, Dezaki in his prime & Akira most people here seem to run clear when TMS shows up on a project.
Famicom here, I know, I might as well post this myself.
>Remember that Aikatsu is a Sunrise show and that most of the first season was outsourced to Telecom as Sunrise was doing the 2nd season at the same time (only the CG stuff was done under a stander schedule).
What are your view on LilPri then?
TV Tokyo ordered 101 episode, Sunrise could not do 101 episodes at once so the split the amount in half, TMS got the first half after they were done with Justice League Doom (they also started the movie at the same time too, the movie was finished by October of 2013 as Yano's unit went off to do retakes for the Wakko's Wish DVD after the Aikatsu movie was done with) when Sunrise did the 2nd half as they though it was better then the first half.
Because of how the studios went, they were labeled as seasons 1 (TMS half) & 2 (Sunrise half).
And they spent every yen they made off of it and The Pilot's Love Song on LilPri series 3 (series 2 was a all CG show by Studio 4C).
Tokyo Movie Shinsha, one of Japan's best and brightest studios but tend to get brush under the rug for studios like Shaft & KyoAni in western markets.
My friends (online & IRL) tend to cover for me here but I doing this myself this time.
I made the drawing by the way.
At least compared to /v/
TMS did make bank off of it.
Also see picture, that topic seems to tell me that most otaku hate TMS regardless that their the Ghibli of TV/OVA animation.
I don't understand why anyone will do this to them, sure my friend went a little overboard on Rob's info but why hate on TMS?
Look at the right side now.
Top row shows are targetted at kids.
Hischool girls is like watching MMD tier flash anime(for hi level watcher to boot) and the rest are made for fujoshit.
None of them are made for the casuals or mainstream market.
Why do you direct me to /co/?
We don't care their taste.
That's cartoon you're probably on wrong board, we don't or rarely watch cartoon our opinion probably very bias.
If you talked about ghibli, they are good but they rarely produce anything these day. They story seems not selling too well. They have good animator but their story for younger audiences.
Z/X is not a kids show, and Sungoku Basara Judge End & Yowamushi Peddel are not as Fujo as you think.
Lupin however is mainstream however, it's even being funded by France & Italy.
No, hate the people that post here under my guidance, I'm very sorry for the mess that they caused.
From your picture TMS seems targeted for younger audience except lupin that shit is for oldfag or nostalgia fag. You cannot get much spotlight when you produce non mainstream anime.
TL;DR TMS anime are for children.
S3 is better than S1 though.
Sure when people still fap over Fujiko and enjoy episodic thievery of the week.
It is 2015 right now, you gotta adapt and revisualize it for the modern audience like what Xebec did for Yamato 2199.
Tomonaga said that Blue Jacket Lupin is not made for kids, and I know that Fujiko Mine is "NOT" made for kids.
By the way, when did Lupin start moving into the kids market? I'm thinking it's when Osamu Dezaki stopped doing the specials.
>you should read again
I'm saying that lupin is for oldfag and nostalgia fag. Lupin series was old franchise. That kind of franchise do not cater mainstream otaku fanbase.
Lupin is good but thats movie and rarely airing unlike seasonal anime.
TL;DR otaku not hating TMS because TMS rarely animating mainstream seasonal anime or anime movies like evangelion or gundam. They probably don't care because the TMS anime is not famous enough now.
I'm glade you like S3.
Explain the bath house parts with this character which show up in almost every episode.
That and the show aired around 2AM'ish when it was on.
You could say the same about Tiny Toons & Animaniacs, but those 3 show are still remembered by the mainstream up to this day, mostly the first 2 outside of Cagliostro because of Miyazaki.
That /co/ topic did talk about bringing modern stuff "like" GCCX & Atkatsu into Animaniacs if new episodes were ever made.
Maybe TMS needs more female staff instead of more comedians. The appeal of anime is not about animation, action, comedy, or deep messages. Anime is about cuteness.
The fuck are you people talking about? /co/? Famicom? Some American stuff?
It would be nice if you included at least a single show aimed at otaku in your image if you want to argue about their "hate".
Actually, sexy is kind of different in the anime medium
Otaku doesnt like heavily sexualize female like Fujiko, Faye(bebop) or that tummy bearing female from death parade. These are what normalfags find sexy but most otaku watchers avoid them like the plague.
They need to show off less skins if they want to appeal to the otakus.
Honestly Z/X was epic fail. Cramping all the conflict and the potential in 12 episodes. That scare away the audiences. Perhaps there are bath scene but people less care when the anime is too random and forced. The story telling was chaos but the visual art is very good. You cannot enjoy the story at all when too mant random shit happened and messy.
>Not bringing up Ulysses 31 & Little Nemo.
Z/X, SeHa and Sangoku Basara Judge End are aimed at otaku.
Also TMS did not work on Grave (and I think Only Yesterday as well), they were doing Akira & Nemo at that time of Grave's production.
Famicom is a massive autist that constantly posts about Tiny Toons on /co/ and claims to know everything about TMS (because they helped do animation for westernshit) while linking insufficient website sources. They want to have an anime studio with some knockoff tiny too mascot and get help from Asian animators but they can't into moon
Also any time you call them out they'll either claim to not be Famicom or that their "friends" were the ones posting for them. Jesus I can't believe how long this shit has been going on for.
SeHa is the only anime that otaku will watch.
And it is a very high level anime. Those faggots fresh off bebop will not watch it and they wont enjoy it. For Basara, you are better off asking tumblr if they like it. /a/ is not the demographic that will watch this kind of show.
I'm a artist who also looks up info about Japanese studios.
Where it all started from, with links from IGN & Telecom's digital unit inside the link.
At least it was better then Justice League Doom, that was just boring.
And you're trying to break into the anime industry? Are you here to blog?
WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS THREAD? I'm so confused.
>You could say the same about Tiny Toons & Animaniacs, but those 3 show are still remembered by the mainstream up to this day, mostly the first 2 outside of Cagliostro because of Miyazaki.
Cagliostro appeal to western fans type of anime /a/ is not the demographic. TMS probably appeal to normalfag instead of otaku that's why they said otaku hate TMS. The themes of the anime appeal to younger audience or normalfag audience instead of otaku. OTAKU don't hate it but its juts that kind of movies demographic, is more normalfag demographic instead of otaku.
Z/X looks like it's aimed at female fans. Basara is aimed at female fans. SeHa is only there to advertise some consoles, nobody takes it seriously.
As I said, post something actually relevant to ataku before you decide if they hate it or not. I'd say the only show otaku care about in your image could be Aikatsu but they are less than 5% of its audience (perhaps more like 1-2%).
>Where it all started from, with links from IGN & Telecom's digital unit inside the link.
Looks like Anonymous already proved you wrong in that thread. Basically you've got nothing.
No Z/X is aimed at a male market, otherwise that one character will be more covered and the bath house parts will be out the window and Basara is aimed at fans of the game which also happen to be men as well.
Please read this to understand me >>120502727
Yes, you shouldn't push the statement too strictly because even lupin can still appeal to a lot of otaku its just not mainstream enough to have a lot of otaku fanbase. Lupin also has a lot of 'otaku' or japanese element, not fullblown western.
I know right, but IGN knows what they're doing.
Also this is made for otaku.
Learn more about the demographic that watches and buy anime.
Basara and fujopedal buyers are heavily tilted to female. The only reason fujopedal even sold well was due to the event ticket where they get to meet and shake hands with their handsome VA.
You wont find them in /a/, you are asking the wrong audience.
US X Japanese co-production, other studios were used but only TMS had say on it.
>I know right, but IGN knows what they're doing.
That's not what I meant you fucking dummy. You thinking Lilpri is getting a third season based on nothing and then calling other people delusional is what's hilarious.
No, thats teenagers.
T/B/12+ depend on the market but often times their made for adults.
C/15+ is a light M in North America.
Brain Age is made for adults but has a A/E/3+ ration.
Lel you need to lurk more in here. You're too newfag. Honestly even lupin franchise is considered kiddy show level of ecchines. Even doraemon most of the time can be more ecchi than lupin . TMS is for kid the same audience like naruto or younger. All their movies also most of them family friendly or we can say kiddy shows.
Lupin was not made for kids at one point in it's life, it might of been when Dezaki stopped doing the specials but Tomonaga wants to bring it back to adults like it was in the past and Akira is "NOT" made for kids, same with Cobra, Fujiko Mine & Daisuke Jigen's Gravestone.
Even doraemon has put uncensored V area in the past. Lupin are tame lack nudity lack kissing. That shit is family friendly.
Put proof that lupin is for adult.
Don't put western culture and audience to /a/.
Fujiko mine's is too vulgar and yes that shit not for kids, and i bet the sales was very bad because not catering the original audience.
Cobra anime is very tame compared to its manga original.
They cannot into mature anime. Fujiko mine series are bad, though.
Lupin was made for adults at one point, no iddea when it switched to kids.
Cobra is made for adults.
Akira is made for adults.
Mankatsu is made for adults.
Moyashimon is made for adults.
Sengoku Otome is made for adults.
Z/X is made for adults.
Fujiko Mine is made for adults.
Not kids stuff by any means.
At least when Dezaki stopped doing the spicials.
A few typos but it shows that Lupin was made for adult at one point and Tomonaga is going to bring that back.
You're lucky that none of TMS' /co/ stuff is for adults in the vains of Family Guy & South Park (but with much better animation of course).
>They cannot into mature anime.
Akira says hi.
You should read to-love-ru darkness hat shit is for younger audience (shounen jump) but lewd then try to compare. Those shit that you're listing is not nearing anything the lewdness of the manga, the anime or the ovas.
what i meant by mature anime is that the show i not family friendly show or not appropriate for kids
is akira not family friendly anime?
I bet its still considered very tame compared to to-love-ru darkness.
You can bring proof that akira is not a tame anime. Like nudity or probably sex scenes
>Is Akira not a family friendly anime?
Akira is very VERY violent, it even has a R ration in it.
Akira is much worse then To-Love-Ru, but theres only 1 topless chick scene in it and thats when a gang rips off a woman's tank top, Akira is just very dark & violent, it deserves it's R rating.
Akira is also 20+years ago
Anon, we are talking about TMS NOW
Why otaku hate TMS NOW?
The answer is their anime lineup. Either adapt to otaku culture or make ghibli like mainstream movie for the whole family or die like any other third rate studio.
Are the whole company run by stubborn chauvinist male that refused to change or adapt to modern time?
>Being here for over a year
Is this an achievement that should be mentioned now?
Thread seems crappy but I'll throw this out there:
TMS's Lupin stuff has been in varying quality over the past 30+ years.
Gugure Kokkuri-San, which just aired recently was quite well-made, so I've got high hopes for blue jacket Lupin to be just as good.
>chick scene in it and thats when a gang rips off a woman's tank top, Akira is just very dark & violent, it deserves it's R rating.
That's very tame, you know. You need to watch anime to understand not only TMS kiddies anime.
Then why are most of the broadcasts air after midnight?
Theirs only 1 airing that airs when people are awake which is around 8:30AM and thats to avoid another Nichijou, the other broadcasters air the show at around 1-2AM.
TMS is very hip, they will adapt.
Gugure Kokkuri-San is indeed well made, Blue Jacket Lupin is being made by the same TMS crew that did Tiny Toons so they know what they're doing.
It only get's darker from there, much darker.
I cannot recommended much about newest edgy kiddy anime because i'm not into it. You can watch akame ga kill, terraformar, elfen lied. If you want to feel the detail when cutting the body part you can see shigurui. Akira art is already behind the area its not thrilling when those edgy stuff happened.
>very dark & violent
Newsflash, anime like this is on the way out.
Look at how well anime like Terraformars, Brynhildr, Akame, Tokyo Ghoul sold with blood, gore and death.
SnK was successful because it brought other things onto the table. If you think just by having blood, explosion and action you will have a blockbuster, you are clearly wrong.
>SnK was successful because it brought other things onto the table
The theme probably not for kid but old anime cater western they make the rating for western market. Western market will ban to love ru darkness or put it under porns eventhough come from shounen magazines.
I don't watch akira and i already said it and that's not important too. The idea only a simple rip of clothes is darke for you it means that you're used to watching kiddy show. Rape in anime is not always considered as adult stuff. You should watch anime you're too newfag to understand.
well, you are a /co/ browsing crossboarder that sticks out like a sore thumb.
the only reason you aren't redirected to death is your autism makes you non threatening to our autists
Yes they do, We are talking about leaving 4 Chan.
I just might end up doing so.
>Thinks Akira is tame.
You sick baster.
I rarely post on this board at all.
I am also not a autists.
> the obvious lies
> I also not an autist (fixed fo you)
Even your post reeks more autism from all /a/non combined,m8.
You need to fix your autism first next time you would come here,though.
Is English not your first language? Your posts are full of syntax errors that indicate either you haven't mastered the language yet or you have a disability and my guess is it's the latter.
>Anime is about cuteness.
Fuck off back to the hole you crawled out of. You're what's wrong with modern anime and its fans.
Ah, come now. I wouldn't say that.
Honestly, Famicom's starting to grow on me. He's like the resident street male prostitute or crazy old man of /a/. At least, his obsessive fandom is true, which is more than you can say about most anon.
Here, I'll throw a bone to you. You won't get much TMS insight here, so read this instead
I don't go here very much but I'm not a prostitute and I'm not a crazy old man. I'm just a man is all.
Pelleas at times has typos but is a good place otherwise.
I do because I watch Fujopedal but it's kind of obvious the OP has no idea how the modern anime industry functions.
I've never seen anyone hate on TMS. I don't think anyone here cares about them because they never make any standout anime. Just solid journeyman work, like every other studio.