Yuri Kuma

♪ Shaba-daa ♪
♪ Shaba-daba-daabaa ♪

>>120487582
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRDcjRNaxZk

I am addicted to it

Trying to help people isn't egotistic, trying to live your life through other people by proxy is.

>>120487508
Pretty sure the point was that she is trying to fulfil her own desires through others

Also fuck Lulu, she was a cunt

>>120487708
>>120487788
>seeking satisfaction in other people's satisfaction is ego

By definition it literally can't be.

>>120487952
>in other people's satisfaction
That's not entirely true though, she only went with Ginko because she wants to live out the Promise Kiss through her.

If Ginko wanted to become a street musician Lulu would have not followed here

In a 7-page essay, please explain in detail the relationship between Yuri Kuma Arashi and Wuthering Heights, using examples and quotes from both works to illustrate your point.

What parallels and similarities can you draw between the characters from both series?

>>120487664
Sexy/10

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>>120488374
>In a 7-page essay

>>120487664
This is going to be the greatest thing of 2015, I'm calling it now.

>>120488374
fuck this I'm done with school.

>>120487508
>implying 4chan isn't full of rand paul fangoys

how new are you? and did you get banned from reddit?

>>120488374
Explain this:
*Unzips dick*

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>>120488374
>3500 word essay

>>120488177
>live out
She wants someone to succeed where she failed.
You've got life-sexy literally giving bullshit lectures about ego when he's given id a free pass all show when the alternative is her sitting in her room doing nothing.

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>>120488374
>7-page essay
You must think this is a fucking game

>>120488734
>giving bullshit lectures about ego when he's given id a free pass all show
Well yeah they are bares after all

>She wants someone to succeed where she failed.
She pretty much straight up says she wants to live out her Promise Kiss through Ginko

Dunno why you think anyone is judging her because of it, ever Life Sexy gave her an Approved

>>120488574
The deadpan expression on him is the best part

>>120487664
Do the nips like it? Even their taste can't be so shit that they didn't notice this.

>>120488822
Her life is empty and Ginko finding her own promised kiss has given her purpose.
That's all there is to it. That isn't living vicariously through anyone and life-sexy doesn't even claim it is. He just says having her success as her motivation is somehow arrogance when that doesn't fit at all.

>>120488374
>7-page essay
Being an English major must be terrible.

>>120489182
Because for the last time, her purpose is not to let Ginko experience her Promise Kiss but to experience her own Promise Kiss through Ginko

>>120489403
Except that's bullshit:
>I give up my kiss
Not I give it to her. I give it up.

>>120489266
Are you joking? Seven pages is the shortest essay you're gonna get in first year.

>>120489460
>I give it up.
Because it's already lost. She realizes she lost it when he brother died

>>120489525
Then it's even worse than I thought.

>>120488374
>>120488487
>>120488619
>>120488639
>>120488660
>>120488745
>>120489266

For extra credit, what common themes do Yuri Kuma Arashi and Wuthering Heights share? How do they differ in resolution, if any?

For extra credit #2, explore, compare, and contrast Yuri Kuma Arashi and Wuthering through feminist theory.

>>120488374
>writing an essay about an unfinished work
Ikuhara isn't 100 years dead, mate.

>>120489525
Man I hate English essays. I mean, don't get me wrong, some are easy
it's just the topic that makes essays difficult, because some are so bad they could be summed up in three pages, but you got to draw it out for seven+
It's like a show which could be made from beginning to end in five episodes, but they decided to give you twelve, so now you have to make so much unnecessary filler episodes

>>120489764
>For extra credit #2, explore, compare, and contrast Yuri Kuma Arashi and Wuthering through feminist theory.
I would rather kill myself

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>>120489764
You're funny

>>120489817
Y'see, that's an art that I have goddamn mastered, so I have no problems with it.

>>120489533
So then we're right back to the beginning.
She wants Ginko to succeed and that's her motivation to traverse the barrier.
The only way that's arrogance or pride is if she's projecting something Ginko doesn't want onto Ginko.

>>120489764
>feminist theory is extra credit
>not completely mandatory and the only thing the professor talks about in class

That's how I know you're not an english major

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>>120489859
Well you're better than I, and I respect you as my superior

>>120489929
That's what Woman's Studies is for. : ^)

>>120489929
I'm waiting for someone in real life to use YKA in an English class assignment.

Bonus points if the professor actually remarks on the paper, "Interesting topic though points are ambiguous" C+

>>120489764
What do they actually have in common? I hated Wuthering Heights so much that I stopped reading it and bullshitted my way through all the assignments. Find your true love or some crap like that?

>>120490027
I would love to do this.

>>120489938
Lulu is such a shit, how could you attempt to murder somebody that cute

>>120490084
The school in Yuri Kuma Arashi is named "Wuthering Heights" in Japanese.

Both stories deal with relationships born out of jealousy, love, denial of one's love, revenge, and ramifications of actions taken due to jealousy and revenge.

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>>120490122
He's in a better place now

>>120488374
Nothing about it feels Wuthering Heights esque, unless it's a metaphor for Kureha slowly going insane and killing her classmates after her waifu dies of the dreaded japanese cold.

>>120489929
Jokes on you, my last English professor was a gay black man. Fortunately I would rather homo-stuff then feminist shit.

>>120490027
If I was the professor I would just write "Shabadadoo".

>>120490084
>I hated Wuthering Heights so much that I stopped reading it and bullshitted my way through all the assignments.

Just go watch JoJo Part 1, it's the same story.

>>120490177
>it's a metaphor for Kureha slowly going insane and killing her classmates after her waifu dies of the dreaded japanese cold.
I'm okay with this.

>>120489874
Its arrogance and ego because she isn't helping Ginko to help Ginko, she's helping Ginko to make up for her own failure. There's nothing inherently wrong with this, but to say her ego doesn't come into it isn't true.

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>>120490230
So it's good fun, but relatively trite?

>>120490217
>mfw the student is the one who is rused and Ikuhara'd

>>120487582
>>120487664
God damn Suwabe was the right choice for Life Sexy.

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GAU GAU! DESIRE!

How could someone be so evil as to kill a cute little shota?

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>>120491127
you don't understand DESIRE

>>120491127
Bears, man. Bears.

>>120490968

HURR DURR DURR

>>120491127
Because Kugyu. It was voiced by teh Kugimiya Rie.

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>>120490968

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>>120491127
Cooties

>>120491218
I really wonder what was going through their minds while typesetting that.

>>120490247
>it's ego
Agree
>it's arrogance
Disagree. Without more coming to the fore it's not.

>>120491366
yeah, thats fair I'll take that. Arrogance is a bit much.

>>120491276
DESIRE-MAX!

>>120491316
Those were trollsubs

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>>120488374
what is it with yuri and Wuthering Heights?

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>>120491441
>You will never reach MAXIMUM desire

>>120489874
I think Life Sexy is probably calling her arrogant, because she's refusing of letting go of the past (she gave up the promised kiss (future) for her (lost) love (past)), and is instead using Ginko as a proxy to feel good about herself.

I think the idea is she won't properly admit she fucked up (big), learn from her mistake and move on. Instead, she's trying to "redo" her mistake (i.e. the self-actualisation) through helping Ginko get the promised kiss.

I don't think Life Sexy was judging Lulu negatively, but merely telling her that her actions would bring nothing for her (because her brother cannot come back to life), and that helping Ginko was as good as a self pat-in-the-back.

I think this is interesting (assuming my impression of this whole deal is correct), because in this regard, Lulu is the opposite of Mitsuko, who in turn wouldn't hold on to anything, but merely use and discard things as she pleased.

Now, Kureha is at a crossroads, either she can move on and forget about Sumika, she can hold on to her memories of Sumika and refuse to move on, or she can both keep her memories of Sumika treasured but still move on.

I find this a likable idea, because most stories stress the theme of moving on, but now we've seen that taking that to an extreme can turn you into shallow person. However, not letting go of the past will make you become stagnant. So, you want a middle ground.

It's like Ginko told Lulu in this episode: "If you forget what you have lost then you'll never get it back." They way I take it, she means that you shouldn't forget what was important to you, even if it currently seems lost, because if you forget (give up on) it, then it truly is lost.

SHOTA WO KIRISAKU... OOOOH DEEESIIIIIIREEEE!

WHAT THE FUCK WAS WITH THE FUCKING BEE, MAN?

>>120491127
Never trust the bears.

>>120491728
The bee symbolizes /u/

I don't get it, what's the big deal about that Kate Bush song that they named the school after it?

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GAU GAU

>>120488374
when is it due?

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>>120491728
Almost literally pic related.

>>120491728

The birds and the bees anon

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>Walking down the street
>See this
What do?

>>120491876
>The bears and the bees anon

Fixed that for you, gau gau

>>120491914

REMOVE SEKUSHII

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>>120491783
And here I was expecting Katyusha to become an interesting character.

>>120491769
>Kate Bush
Muh nigga. Her 70s albums are fucking godly.

>>120491914
Try very hard to resist putting my dick in his mouth because those teeth.

But it'd be worth it.

>>120491914
Kill the invader.

>>120492021
That's a bear though. Why would you put your dick in a bear?

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>>120491728

>>120492021

He has a perfectly good bearbutt you can put it in, instead.

>>120491728
It's the sting of jealousy duh.

>>120491728
Lulu's rejection of others given metaphorical form. It flares up whenever the judges approach, and cuteshotabear was ultimately killed by a bee when off on an impossible quest Lulu sent him on.

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>>120491310

Who looks at that and doesn't immediately get the urge to hug him?

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>>120492246

>>120492246
Milun>>>>Life Cute

>>120491728
It keeps people away from her, the only person in the episode even in the circle of the Japanese hornet was her brother. He was the only one who constantly came on to her and deeply loved her and deep down, despite her jeleousy for him taking the higher postition in the family for being male, replacing her, ect, she didn't hate him. Who could not love that little guy?

>>120492300
Confirmed for Milun being the cutest male bear. Life Sexy is still the sexiest.

>>120492292

Somebody make a "if this nigga don't shut the fuck up" variant already

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>>120492225
>off on an impossible quest Lulu sent him on

How the fuck did he survived the box 3 times and where the hell did he even kept getting that same honey pot from?

For that matter, how the hell did Ginko find the exact same honey pot several years after Lulu threw away the last one her brother brought before he died?

>>120492302
>It keeps people away from her

Why was the bee circling her brother in the flashback then? That part when he's in his bear form sitting near the tree.

If the bee means wanting to be alone, then what the fuck does that scene mean?

>>120491914
♪ Shaba-daa ♪
♪ Shaba-daba-daabaa ♪

>>120492432

Sacrificing cute little shotas to sand monsters and volcanoes is sexual enhancement?

>>120492469
Bees make honey. Honey is the promised kiss.

Now connect this to the fact that they lick honey off of Kureha's lily as she asks them for the promised kiss. Now you can be confused.

>>120492469

The bee might have multiple meanings. It's purpose seems to change a few times.

>>120492302
>the only person in the episode even in the circle of the Japanese hornet was her brother
And Ginko

>majoring in arts

Jesus christ.

>>120492469
>Why was the bee circling her brother in the flashback then

Because her rejecting him lead to his death, so the metaphorical rejection bee is circling around him

>>120492469
It keeps stuff in and keeps stuff out, like a container. The part with her otouto and the tree means she accepted him in a way.

>>120491914
Kick? But its too sexy. I'd shaba dado that bear. This is sexy.

>>120491914
Keep so he can narrate my life story in sexy Suwabe voice.

>>120492478
>implying it's not

>>120491914
fuck it

Sexy>Cool>shit>Cute

>>120493036
I can agree with this. Cute is shit.

>>120493036
>>120493083
it's life beauty not cute you primordial apes

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>>120492469
>How the fuck did he survived the box 3 times and where the hell did he even kept getting that same honey pot from?
>For that matter, how the hell did Ginko find the exact same honey pot several years after Lulu threw away the last one her brother brought before he died?

So, is anyone going to answer this?

>>120493106
Apes aren't that old, you absolute mongoloid.

>>120493106
Sorry then Beauty but he is still shit.
>primordial apes
Why this?

>>120493155
bitch nigga troglodyte

I am way too invested in Lulu getting a happy end after this. Come on, Lulu! Don't back down on love! Win that threesome! Promised kisses are meant to be shared!

>>120493137
Fate and destiny.

>>120493137
She metaphorically threw him away. He chased after the honey each time and she thought she had gotten rid of him. Ginko said she found the honey far away, I don't see how that's odd. Glass jars like that can last, especially if they're protected from the elements.

>>120493137
It's a fairytale. The set-up and narrative style should have queued you in.
People do ridiculous impossible things all the time in fairytales and the anime doesn't follow the line of reason much to begin with.

>>120493137
It was funny.

>>120493137
Shabadadu~

>>120492469
>>120493137
It's an allegory for how dedicated he was to his sister. You aren't supposed to take this show literally. Ginko having it later likely represents how she revived the memories and feeling in Lulu about her brother since her love was so similar to his.
And about the bee, when it shows it circling around Lulu and Milun, it's showing how close he was to her. He was basically the only person she really cared about until Ginko came around, which is also represented by the bee circling them both in the scene where they meet.

>>120493137
It was Love.

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>>120493216
Yes please.

>>120493137
You're taking it too literally. It was a silly representation of her efforts to try and get rid of him, not what really happened.

>>120493137
Because Ikuhara, thats why!

>>120493340
O-Oh my.

>>120493340
At least erase the frames around Kureha's heads.

>>120493340
Even time I see Kureha I think she lost it.

>>120493429
Cyouko Ooki?

Kyouko?

>>120493429
Very cute.

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>>120493340
but brown said she was going to give up kissing

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>>120493399

>>120493504
Good work, anon. Saved.

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>>120487508
Lulu!

I don't think I've ever gone from total neutral on a character to worst girl, to best girl all in one episode. Impressive.

>>120493482
No kiss involved.

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>>120493536
The question now is, would you make her hunnie pop?

This was like the curry Nanami episode but funny and sad

>>120493429
Isn't she dead?

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>>120493680
Not yet. But those rabid beasts will stop for nothing i fear.

>>120493576
I'm not an adorable outoto bear, just a regular outoto bear, I have no power over her.

>>120493461
Chouko

>>120493482
But it's sad that Lulu thinks she can't receive love anymore. That no one can give her a "promised kiss". That's a pathological sort of grieving.

>>120493731
It's not that she can't receive love anymore, it's that her one and only is pushing up lilies. She can still get plain old normal kisses, just not promised star kisses.

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The OST in this episode was amazing too bad we have to wait 4 months.

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>>120493482
Really?

>>120493106
>primordial apes
Finally, an explanation for SamFlam.

>>120493340
That leg Ginko is holding irritates me. It looks like a stump. Where's the rest of it?

Is there a webm of Milun climbing into the box? It's so adorable how he flops in all haphazardly ass over end.

>>120493802
Her baby brother is her baby brother. She feels guilty about his death, because he died doing something to get her to show her love for him, so now she gives love freely but doesn't feel worthy of getting any in return.

>>120491127
>You'll become queen
>all the subjects love you
>brother is born
>he jumps ahead of you in succession because he has a dick
>everyone stops giving a shit about you
I can fully understand why, even if I think it was still morally wrong. But then
>implying morals matter to a bear

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>>120494289
Found it.

>>120494584

Thanks anon. All the other ones I've seen cut out the beginning part with him climbing in and that's my favorite bit

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>>120493865
Yes, this scene's caught my attention especially.

>>120493137
The bee was her rejection of others. The bee circled around her brother too when she was feeling close to him. She was affected by his dedication and love, which was why she came to regret killing him later.

>>120494867
I was feeling it.

>>120494646
The part where she kicks him off the cliff is funny but the part with him getting in to the box so close to the edge because she said so is adorable.

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The correlating artwork to this series is misleading. The art however is great.

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>>120495324
She had quite the honey pots, even when she was a bit younger.

This show and this art is way too lewd.

>>120492006
>Sensual World
>Hounds of Love
>The Dreaming
more like 80s 8)

>>120495768
Why didn't you list Never For Ever? It's my favorite of hers and it's from 1980.

>>120495868
I could have sworn that one was 79, but I checked and it totally is 80. Regardless, pretty much everything she's put out is great.

>>120490349
His scream when she kicks him off the cliff was gold.

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After this episode I've come to the conclusions that co-existence with the bears shan't be possible and they must all be exterminated. All.

Rifles for everyone.

>>120490122
>Lulu is such a shit, how could you attempt to murder somebody that cute

Almost as bad as Nanami killing the kitten, eh?

I want Mitsuko to rape and eat me.

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>>120495411
Bears must age faster or something because she looked pretty old for 4 years. and strangely attractiveWhat I'm saying is I would 4 year old Lulu

>>120496866
>Bears must age faster
Brown bears reach maturity between 4 and 8 years, and live around 30 years in the wild, give or take 5.

>>120496962
>If kureha ends up with a bear, she'll outlive it by at least 40 years assuming a natural life span, probably longer

>>120494386
>implying morals matter to a bear
>implying fratricide only happens in the royal bear court
Britain. France. Germany. Every goddamn country that used to be a monarchy.

I was pretty surprised at how calmly Ginko was looking at Kureha shooting those wooden bear carvigs when in the manga the moment she saw Kureha with the gun she almost pissed her panties in fear.

>>120498604
Ginko seems to be an autist in the anime after the first episode.

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>>120498674
She's just a normal bear.

God, this show is the worst. Every main character is the worst. Every character that is even somewhat decent is killed right away. Fuck this show, seriously.

>>120493354
>Because Ikuhara, thats why!

This. It's a fairy tale. Huge Utena vibes.

>>120498937
If only Mitsuko were here.

>>120499054
She's dead.

>>120499085
I didn't see a body. Bears are tough, a shot in the arm and falling off a roof won't kill her, and she wouldn't die even if she were killed.

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ONEETAMA

>>120499130
You could also hear her hit the tree so that should have softened her landing. I'm sure she will be back as a complete yandere to rape Kureha.

I'm not sure what Milun and his honey pot symbolizes. I would say that it's all about pure familial love, but this is an Ikuhara's anime, so it can be pedo incest as well.

>>120499353
It symbolizes an FBI sting operation for CP.

>>120499136

i just wanted them to kith.

fanart when, japan?

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>>120499556
Here ya go

>>120499574

DEZIYA

>>120487508

Ikuhara's views are in fact just about the opposite of that. The idea that you should help people in need is one of the main ideas of Penguindrum, isn't it (i.e. Momoka saving Yuri and Tabuki).

Just because a character says something doesn't make it what the author believes.

>>120487952
That's totally wrong.
t. Kant

>>120489764

You'd have to wait for the end of YKA.

>feminist theory

The cancer killing criticism and literature.

What the fuck does Sha ba da doo even mean?

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You wouldn't kiss your younger brother

>>120499692
What's written doesn't matter shitlord, only context and conclusions you can draw to stick it to the kyriarchy.

>>120499818
Yup, I wouldn't, he's disgusting.

I like how the most erotic scenes are done in bear forms.

>>120500020

The spread eagles and the booty shaking are cute as shit. Would be 2lewd if they were in human form.

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>>120500020
>sexualizing bears
Disgusting.

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>>120493429
I still wonder if this is a coincidence, a reference, or if butterflies with that sort of hair is common.

Moral of the story: lesbians are okay, but incest isn't.
Then what about lesbian incest?

>>120500705
Ok in small doses.

>>120500705
Doesn't lead to pregnancy to why the hell not?

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>>120500705
I see no problems.

>>120487664
It's my ringtone

the best part is that only people of greater or equal power level recognize it

Any webm of This is Sexy?

What does the Promised Kiss stand for exactly? True love?

>>120493716

That chart is wrong. Episode 1 dead girl was Katyusha.

>>120504691
I think so, everyone gets one.

>>120505423
So do the jars of honey have a kind of similar function to the apples in Penguindrum, in that there is only one per person but they can be shared around?

>>120491914
REMOVE BEARS, DEFEND YURI

>>120499818
If he was as cute as that, hell yes I would.

>>120487508
Ikuhara actually believes that children should pay by their parents's sins, regardless they're good persons or terrorist scums

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So when will Life Cool win a case?

>>120506524
When hell freezes over.

>>120505337
Yes, and she was eaten by Ginko and Lulu.

>>120506477
>pay by their parents's sins
What about orphans?

>>120507042
They don't have parents. They are loved by no one.

>>120487664
So I wasn't the only one. God damn.

>>120506524
Best boys never win.

>>120487664
これはＳＥＸＹ

>>120506524
Eventually as the bears do things less and less motivated by instinct they'll no longer be able to hold to the 'bears do x' ID defense and SUPEREGO will have to be listened to.

>>120493886
explain this

Is YKA the masterpiece of our time?

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>>120487508
Fuck Ayn Rand!

>>120509365
No, but this scene >>120487664 is.

>>120509427
That scene is actually from Yurikuma Arashi.

>>120509654
I'm saying that YKA is not a masterpiece as a whole but that scene in particular is a masterpiece.

>>120507806
>SUPEREGO
How the hell did I miss it, it's so obvious.

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>yfw da burrs win da yurib owl

>>120509898
Well we sure as hell ain't winning any other owls any time soon. Thanks cutler.

>>120500705
Incest wasn't the problem, Anon.

Nigga, do you even know what incest is.

>>120510052
We all know how royal families work. A kiss now, a hug later, and 10 years later he's married her.

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>>120510100
>hugs after kisses

>one of the raging bear lesbians is actually a incestuous hetero

So much for yuri

>>120510152
>one faggot keeps trying to shitpost the same thing

So much for good threads

>>120510264
That was actually my first post for this episode.

>>120510348

>>120510264
>multiple faggots keep trying to shitpost the same thing
Fixed

>>120510403
How am I shitposting? It's just an observance.

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I was going to bring up the crown motif a few weeks ago, but it wasn't as obvious what the importance was at the time when were were still just starting to figure out that Ginko had Reia's star and all that. But now that we know the crowns are also associated with bear royalty, it's becoming increasingly obvious that Ginko's mother really was Reia's special friend. It's nothing new, just another bit of evidence to add to the stack.

>>120488374
Man, college was years ago. I'm not doing this shit again.

>>120490968
YAME WO KIRISAKU OH DESIRE

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>>120509898
The way the pink ribbon shows up at the front makes it kind of look like the white crescent moon that the asian black bears have.

>>120490968
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMjpMGd2vMU

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>>120510532
I also just noticed that you can see the waves" in that picture but they're absent from the room still. The only "safe" places from the bears are Kureha's home and the Severance Court, pretty sure.

>>120510660
That's interesting, never knew that.

>>120510678
Maybe I'm missing something, what waves?

>>120510472
>it's a background story
>Lulu became yuri AFTER those past events
>it is not clear cut SHE WANTS TO BANG HER BROTHER like some retards insist
>most importantly I must reiterate it is a BACKGROUND story, the main story is Ginko chasing her love and Kureha dealing with the loss of hers
>the show will continue to be yuri

>How am I shitposting? It's just an observance.
Blatantly false observations and shitposting are indistinguishable

>>120509898
>not
>yfw da burrs win the invisib owl

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>>120510743
These little fuckers. Open up any episode and flip through any scene outside of Kureha's room and you'll see them. Her room never has them, though the rest of her house seems to (if you look around 12.20 episode 4 you'll see them in her kitchen).

>>120510846
>can't use greentext
/u/ really is this shit.

>>120510858
Interesting. Good catch, anon.

>>120510899
It's funny, because you're using greentext in the same way that poster is.

>>120510934

>>120510846
>most importantly I must reiterate

>>120510846
She still wants to see him one last time and she did say she loves him and still haven't given up on love.

It's just that the story of one of the main three is now completely irrelevant.

>Blatantly false observations

How are they "blatantly false"? It's just the very first thing it comes up to mind for most people.

>>120510973
Okay, I missed that. That is a pretty pantsu on head retarded way to use greentext.

But there's a lot of retarded shit being posted in this thread anyway.

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>>120510919
I guess I'll just say it since I wasn't explicit about it this time, but I think they represent scratches from a bear's claws. When Lulu was alone in Kureha's house cooking they were there, but in this scene with both Kureha and Ginko they're absent. They don't seem to be in the heart under table scene >>120487715 but that could just be because of the lighting.

>>120490349
>I still believe Koizumi would have done fine.

I'm glad that little fucker died

>>120512959
Screw you asshole.

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>>120512959
/u/, please go and stay go.

>>120496396
Who didn't think about this scene?

>>120512959
But how the fuck did he survived so many times and then got fucked over by a bee?

>>120513630
Read the thread.

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>>120512959

I have no idea what's going on anymore. Not that I had an idea in the first place.

>>120512959
Hey buddy, climb in this box.

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She did the right thing to save the kingdom.
Do you think that little retard could command an army to fend off the human invaders?
Do you think that gullible little fucker could organize precisely selected plots to sow decent between the human rulers?
Do you think that braindead ugguh teddy bear would be able to select trustworthy bear vassals who keep the vast riches of the bearlands running and don't divert taxes in to their own coffers, because that trusting fool of a princes won't notice it?

The bear kingdom needs a harsh Queen who knows how the real world works, or all the bears would be dancing as slaves in human circuses in no time.

>>120514116
He was like four years old

>>120514116
>who knows how the real world works
>tries to kill her brother so she can become the spoiled brat again
Whatever you say, buddy.

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>>120514116
>>120514149

>>120514116
This guy gets it

>>120514149
And he didn't realize that she hated him and tried to kill him 3 times. Kind of retarded?

>people still think the bear kingdom was real

Do you think Ikuhara has read Pale Fire?

>>120514189
Four year old children are at the stage when they can barely process multisyllabic words

>>120514263
4 year old bear children are at the stage where they can escape from a pit of burning lava and then run through the whole kingdom to find a tiny pot of honey.

>>120514189
>not loving your onee-tama so much that you trust and forgive her no matter what she does

>>120514052
Lulu chose to go with Ginko beyond the fall and help her give her love back.

>>120487508
Go away

His death reminded me of the grandpa in Penguindrum that also died in a accident.
When he came back alive for the first time I knew he was going to die in a accident too.

>>120514116
Do you think a vainglorious incestuous dykebag would be capable, let alone motivated, to do anything other than wank off her own ego and actually serve her kingdom?

Her brother's empathy makes him infinitely more suited to the thrown.

>>120514652
What if Bear is a bear?

>>120514652
Go away

>>120490166
He's totally life beauty, isn't he? I mean, come awwn. He just up and dies? From what? He tripped? No, pink haired villain has clearly captured him and made him part of his man harem of evil.

OST when?

>>120514470
And it's probably merely some symbolism, or whatever. I decided to throw everything out of the window and just enjoy the cute girls from now on.

The honey pots are the apples.

>>120515752
See
>>120505512

>>120515185
Bear is the only one who is not a bear

I’m skimming through the Starting Guide - the interview with Ikuhara and Morishima is really interesting.

He knew her manga (he keeps up on both yuri and BL manga regularly) and contacted her on twitter back when he was pulling together the Penguindrum manga anthology, asking her to submit to it. She is a longtime massive fan of his, to the point that she actually initially turned down his offer to work together on Yurikuma simply because she was terrified she would fail and “ruin everything” if they worked together, and she said she couldn’t have handled it if an Ikuhara show was ruined for her because she loves his shows too much. She isn’t sure she would be a mangaka if it wasn’t for Ikuhara - when she was 19, she read an interview of his that made a massive impression on her. She respects him as a creator in general - while she enjoyed reading manga and watching anime in general when she was young, his work was what made her really consider how a story is actually made, and it inspired her a lot.

Some standout points… I’ll probably translate this at some point properly, but until then…

+ Ikuhara notes that by working in the yuri genre, there are lots of things that he can only pretend to understand. To a point he considers that unavoidable with this subject matter, but he thought early on that the project needed someone with credentials people could have undying faith in: “Someone that would make people say, ‘With such a godlike person working on this, I have no choice but to follow along with it!’” He thinks some things may inevitably be a “little off” with him handling it, but believes Morishima’s involvement should keep the soul of the work intact.

+ Morishima talks a lot about how for a long time, she was simply making the kinds of yuri manga she wanted to read herself, because those stories just didn’t exist.

(con't)

>>120516904

+ Morishima loves telling stories about older women, and so has to constantly be checking herself so that she doesn’t accidentally make Yuriika the main character in the manga. Friends reading the manga told her it was obvious she was putting way more effort into the scenes with Yuriika and Reia than anything else going on, and she’s trying to correct that bias.

+ Ikuhara likes to start his shows by having the mangaka he works with inspire him, rather than the other way around. He gave Morishima an explanation for the show concept that was just a single page long, and asked her to build designs from there. She would press him for more details about the characters, and he would just reply, “Who knows?” to her questions. She started making little gag comics in the margins of her design sheets to try to get a better feel for the characters, which inspired Ikuhara as he began solidifying the characters’ identities.

+ Ginko was originally designed to have a tall, tomboyish image, but Ikuhara requested her hair be shortened to the style it is now. Somehow the haircut didn’t match with her height, so she suddenly got shorter.

+ Morishima is doing her own thing with the manga. Her “invisible storm” is not necessarily the same as Ikuhara’s. She has a planned ending in mind for the manga, but she’s watching the anime along with everyone else. So the anime may influence the manga, and she may end up changing her plans after seeing it. She doesn’t like to rely on metaphors or fantasy elements in her work, though, so she avoids touching on the bear origin story.

(con't)

>>120516950

+ Ikuhara first imagined the Judgemens would be female visually, but have male seiyuu voicing them, so the original designs Morishima created for them looked female. Between this and the way the novel goes out of its way to avoid ever describing them using gendered phrasing (while it has no problem referring to the girls as “girls”), I think it’s safe to say that men do not exist in this world, period.

+ Morishima’s favorite character design is Konomi’s, and she likes how her ugliness is somehow adorable. Ikuhara says that the whole staff has a soft spot for Konomi too.

+ They mention the bears were chosen as the motif because they are deadly (Ikuhara: “If we just wanted something cute, it might as well have been dogs.”). Bears introduce a life-or-death element to the narrative and that builds into the sexual angle. Ikuhara vaguely alludes to the idea of the sexual being directly connected to death. (I wouldn’t be surprised if the speculation that none of the characters who were eaten are dead-dead is correct - the girls who were eaten were sexually liberated and had to leave the human world??)

>>120516996

+ Ikuhara laughs that there are probably viewers disappointed in this sort of drastic “life or death” angle to the story, and there are no doubt lots of people thinking, “Yuri stories ought to be more light and fluffy!” Morishima responds that she doesn’t mind fluff, but her main concern in the yuri genre is only the strength of the romance between the girls. She doesn’t like to think about portrayals of sexuality as absolutes, it’s the romance that matters: “It’s not like, this story has sex in it so it’s ‘the real thing.’ This one has no sex in it so it’s pulling punches.” When she’s reading other stories, she’s always thinking lots of things, like, “This story just wants to show these two girls all over each other! It’s not going for a deeper meaning at all!” or, “Dammit, this is so adorable it’s obnoxious!” or, “Oh yes, this is good, I want more of this.”

+ notables from the other staff: the production meetings on this show run unbelievably long (and this is coming from ppl who worked on Penguindrum). The show can be unclear to even the staff, so it’s incredibly difficult for the people at the top to explain what’s required on a production level, and meetings stretch on forever as a result.

Comments about the high ratio of women on staff again. “Just like on Penguindrum, the staff acts like mothers and older sisters to Ikuhara.”

>>120517041

Everyone who was invited to work on the show was just told the title at first, and just about everyone had similar “wtf?!” reactions to it (“Forget the Yuri part for a sec, let’s talk about the Bear Storm…is this really gonna be okay?!?!” “The bears are girls??? The girls are bears???”). Someone refers to the show as a “story of meetings and reunions.” Sumimoto Etsuko says when she was approached for it, she thought, “If we can expand upon the idea of ‘making a show about girls, for girls,’ it’s going to be interesting.”

Almost everyone’s interviews are pretty clipped, like they’re afraid of giving too much away, but the main producer seems to be a big Ikuhara fan and is a bit more chatty. He says he was excited from the beginning to see what Ikuhara would do this time, and while it’s a show with a lot of mysteries going on, if you watch until the end, then he thinks everyone will realize that everything in the show had an intended meaning, and people should get a sense of satisfaction when they see how it all ultimately ties together.

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>>120517082

God damn based Ikuhara, based Morishima. As expected, of both of them. I no longer have any worries about this show. It's going to be awesome.

>>120516904
Very interesting, thanks!

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>>120517082
>>120517041
>>120516996
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>>120516904
>You will never work with someone who you idolize

>>120516996
>They mention the bears were chosen as the motif because they are deadly (Ikuhara: “If we just wanted something cute, it might as well have been dogs.”).

Interesting. I have a theroy that they're bears because they are at the same time an object of adoration and one of fear. Like homosexuals in anime, the "fake"( kind (i.e. the ones who will "grow out of it" and are non-sexual) are seen as cute while the ones who are sexual are feared for their difference.

It's probably completely wrong though.

>>120517082
That was very interesting, thank you anon. I hope they will show us the female designs of the Judgebears.

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I am in love.

>>120517082
>1 cour show
>burns 3 episodes doing 1 episodes job
muh mystery

>>120516996
>I think it’s safe to say that men do not exist in this world, period.
Confirmed for false at the very least for the bears themselves.

>>120517694
Lulu please

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>>120518021
And a picture to prove your point.

>>120518021

I think they mean the human world, although that certainly is just speculation.

>>120487508
Ayn Rand only believed that shit because she lived in a place of Communism. However, she was also on welfare.

>>120516950
>Morishima loves telling stories about older women, and so has to constantly be checking herself so that she doesn’t accidentally make Yuriika the main character in the manga. Friends reading the manga told her it was obvious she was putting way more effort into the scenes with Yuriika and Reia than anything else going on, and she’s trying to correct that bias.
Oh Morishima you fucking dike, I love you.

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>>120516904
>he keeps up on both yuri and BL manga regularly

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>>120518339

Did anyone doubt it? It's Ikuhara, the most fabulous man on Earth.

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>>120518078
Actually I meant the show, but Ginko looks very gallant there so I guess it works too.

>>120517041
Pretty cool, thanks. I'm glad that we've talked about some of the things Morishima has a problem with and that somewhere underlying the story are her feelings of wanting to avoid "too much sex" and "too adorable" and get something just right.

Also, that porridge scene last episode reminded me of Goldilocks and the Three Bears. I doubt it was an intended reference or anything though.

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>>120517041
>Comments about the high ratio of women on staff again. “Just like on Penguindrum, the staff acts like mothers and older sisters to Ikuhara.”
Ikuhara sure loves surrounding himself with women. He's such a playboy.

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>>120517082

Holy hell, somebody be sure to repost this in every thread from now on. This is vital information.

If this show doesn't get good sales then Japan has shit taste

>>120516904
Get your tumblr shit out of here

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>>120509898

>>120510532
My current theory is that Ginko's mother received a promised kiss from Kureha's mother, that's why she's following her.

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>>120516904
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>>120517082

Does /u/ know about this? I bet they're dancing in the streets. First Korrasami, now this.

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Admit it : you wanted him to bring her honey one last time

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>>120520410
He was too adorable for this world

>>120519106
the fuck is your problem asshole

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>>120520476

But was he too adorable for the bear world?

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>>120520612
Yes

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>>120516904
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>>120516996
>>120517041
>>120517082
>first time this interesting background info was posted it was just a link to some tumblr and everyone was butthurt
>now that its reposted in 4chan people suddenly care

You guys sure act retarded sometimes.

>>120520734
>act
It's not acting.

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>>120520734

Wow, really? That is fucking sad. This Tumblr-as-bogeyman thing was dumb even before now, but that's...fuck. Get your head out of your asses, people. I don't give a damn where info like this comes from as long as its accurate.

>>120495324
Why are they looking at me?

>>120520873
You're the next one.

>>120520860
How's your first day?

>>120521091
How's your birthday?

>>120521163
How's your net worth, eh?

>>120520410
>>120520476
I always wanted her to accept the promised kiss. ; ; Good night sweet prince.

>>120521356
53 million

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What's the deal with this anime and slutty bears?

>>120520734
>>120520860
No, the attitude of hate and rejection is necessary for /a/. Without everyone here being elitist assholes, other people might actually feel welcome and want to stay.

>>120519219
>.jpg

Why are you an idiot, anon?

Everything would be so much easier if you weren't.

>>120524980
Maybe it goes along with theme that the bears are the care-free group and the humans are the uptight prudes.

Why was this episode so good? Those guitar riffs near the end and how one episode can develop a character so much. I knew Lulu was best girl from when she was first introduced, but she was a little shallow at first; but now she secured her place in my favorite girl ranking.

>>120529446
That's the beauty of having the plot revealed slowly.
Just wait for Ikuhara to fuck up the ending.