Ok I don't get this shit. How is it so high rated everywhere? Does it get good? Because the first episode was the most cancerous stuff I've ever seen. It was like Pokemon but a hundred times worse. 4 people clearly sticking out from everybody else obviously pass the test. The cliche "C-can't be, he's the son of that high shit guy, I could see by the color of his anus" and shit like that. Don't get me wrong, I love adventure, I loved One Piece but this is just so lazy. Should I really give it a try?
I don't know why anyone would take your reyarded criticism seriously but it statys very childish and shonen like for the first few episodes. Anyways I don't want to write too much for a retard like you but it starts ok and gets much much better as it goes on.
>Judging the greatest shonen anime of all time by the first episode
Come back when you've at least finished the Hunter Exam.
It will get better, but you may have to force yourself through some parts. The exam is a pretty good arc with exception of Gon being a huge Mary-Sue, but he's the worst character of the whole show anyway. Now the battle tower arc you'll need to clench your teeth, because it's fucking boring, drowns in needlessly long explanation of the simple superpower system of the world and is nothing but a tourney.
>Luffy is an interesting character
I like HxH, but It's far from being best, there Dragon ball, One piece, Ruroni Kenshin and Shaman King all with a much better claim for the best shounen. Hunter has great characters and some good fights, but Gon is hilariously overpowered even for a shounen protagonist, world receives little to no progression outside of main characters' actions, there's a terrible case of Deus ex Machina and there's absolutely no character progression outside of Killua.
why do one of these threads have to be made every day?
He does have similarities with Gon in a sense like "im gonna be this and that and dont care what others say", but I liked him from the first ep beucase he didn't come off as le epic hero kid with a goal, he was a stupid, funny kid with a goal.
now, this isn't a troll. just smiretarded since you did mention Rurouni Kenshin. but Dragon Ball and One Piece. my fucking sides.
>Gon is hilariously overpowered
>was getting his ass handed until he went full insane against the creature who murdered his "uncle" and now has lost all of his nen in exchange for that very brief power up.
>no super saiyan shit
>no kings haki fart shit
Yeah and him getting his ass handed to him was for exactly one arc and he did win in the end by asspull, and was saved by even bigger asppull and I'd be willing to bet anything he'll get nen before they even get on the fucking boats.
Dragonball is sure much more simplistic, but that is simply because it set the standard and every single shounen nowadays is a play on Dragonball formula. One piece in the meantime gets everything that HxH lacks, Luffy is always getting his ass handed to him, the world does work by itself and things happen without Strawhat crew being there, nearly every character has his own progression and significatly changes to where he started, even Luffy himself. Stop sucking up to your holy grail and try to look around for once, HxH is very far from perfect.
Waiting for 80 episodes to get to the part where main characters do nothing but bawl all the time and godlike entity being defeated because he fell in love is not a good strategy, I checked.
heres ur reward mr troll
its spaghetti, you've earned it.
>and him getting his ass handed to him was for exactly one arc
>getting raped by Hisoka
>getting destroyed by Hanzo
>getting fucked by top spin guy
>getting raped by Hisoka AGAIN
>getting captured by the Ryodan
>getting by Bomber because of Killua's plan
>getting obliterated by Knuckle
Gon only has two or three legitimate victories in the entire manga you fucking idiot.
Dragon Ball would have been a GOAT nominee if Toriyama didn't fucked up by continuing past the 23rd Budokai arc.
>Luffy is always getting his ass handed to him
>destroys everyone in East Blue
>rekts 2 Shichibukai pre-Haki
>has never lost a fight post-Marineford
>about to rape his 3rd Schichibukai
Luffy has literally lost as many times as Gon has won.
>Stop sucking up to your holy grail and try to look around for once, HxH is very far from perfect.
>waaaaa waaa I don't know what I'm talking about so I'm going to bring the fanboy card
give it up basedretard.
>I started watching a show I didn't like because /a/ said it was good.
i seriously hope you aren't trying.
powerful samefaggotry at work
report op and move on folks
>Gon is hilariously overpowered
He doesn't even have any powers of his own until about 3/4 of the show, and even until then he's getting his butt whooped by every worthy fighter he faces. Where was this for Luffy and Goku? Nowhere, because they're fucking everyone up as early as the 2nd episode.
>there's absolutely no character progression outside of Killua
Gon goes through hardships throughout the entire show and he learns from them to become a better person and a better fighter. Luffy knows nothing of character progression until he faces Arlong, and that's almost 50 episodes.
>doesn't even beat Hanzo
>takes several seasons to learn nen to a decent level
>best he can do against Hisoka is punch him in the face
>needs a strategy planned for weeks to beat Genthru and gets fucked up trying to take him on
>can't touch the troupe
>has a tough time with most ants
>can't do shit against Pitou without an insane sacrifice
>no character progression outside of Killua
>despite being a completely different person during the Hunter exam and the end of the CA arc, which was developed and foreshadowed over time
The world doesn't progress much because it doesn't revolve around the MCs, amazingly enough. But clearly shit is changing following the elections.
Just finished the second season myself. The Hunter exam had its moments, but was overall pretty bad )pacing issues, big time, but I'm sure most people agree on that). Episodes 27-38 were better, but went full shonen explaining every little thing about someone's power and just powers in general. Also, Togashi has some JoJo tier AIDs. See pic related? She is the most adorable little thing and has the voice of a thousand angels singing in harmony, but she's nothing but background fodder in the end.
Still, I like the way that no shits are given throughout the show, Hisoka is perhaps the greatest gay clown of all time, and overall I enjoy the show very much. Will keep watching, if Chimera Ants are as good as I hear I'm very excited.
Not everyone like shounen. But.
This is a quality adventure story. My only gripe is that it is less violent/horrifying than the manga, and Greed Island/later arcs make amends and it returns to its disgusting roots.
Chances are, you'll have an opinion on Gon. You'll either put up with him, or like him. Gon isn't too hard to put up with though, as you'll notice most of the character (Kurapika, Leorio exempted) just put up with him. At least this is worked into the series, unlike every other shouenen which makes all the characters insta-worship the protag.
Hey if you don't like powerful characters, then this shit is pretty much made for you. Each and every one of them falls into a spiraling pit of irrelevancy that it's laughable to have ever thought they could be considered main protagonists at this point. Seriously, all this shit is "Let's look at the HxH world in the eyes of two shotas! Oh look, everything's so dark and edgy, and it corrupts their innocence!" They get tossed into fucking war zones and are put up right next to these colossal giants so you can truly see how weak and irrelevant they are for fuck all reasons and people think it's the greatest shit that big boy grew up for literally a hot second and stomped the fuck out of a cat ant thing. Just now the mangaka decides to throw in some political focustoo, cause he figures his audience has grown a couple beards after abandoning them repeatedly to play his shitty JRPGs.
Look at this fucking face. This is probably the shittiest way to return a shounen plot to its norm that I've ever experienced. It's so blatant and in your face that it really feels like an insult.
I can go on and on about shit like how lazy Nen is, how bland the character designs are, how Gon's father was literally nothing, how shit Greed Island really is, how unfulfilling Gon's dad is, how the new arc is probably going to be fucking dropped, and how unexciting most of this shit is.
It was pretty fun in the Yorknew arc but it's since went downhill from there, I can't even praise the Ant arc because of pic-related. it's fucking ridiculous. Gon is probably the weakest shitter out there and now he's crippled. I probably don't even hate this series as much as I make it out to be here but goddamn do I hate HxH fags who think this is the greatest shit on earth.
At least you made me laugh a bit.
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It sounds like you WANT HxH to be cliched and generic. Yeah, the MCs aren't always the most important character in the universe so they don't dominate every arc, they aren't always the strongest, Ging is anticlimatic, it's all shit that makes HxH good. I don't see how you can call nen lazy considering the depth Togashi goes through to explain it, it's almost excessive how detailed he gets about how it's used in various ways. We still don't fully understand it until GI.
who the fuck spends 30 minutes in a thread samefagging just to shitpost? top kek
I'm sure Alluka is so groundbreaking too. There's such a thing as tact and Togashi has none of it. Humanizing baddies is totally not an overused plot element either. Seriously though, almost everything from the Ant arc was sealed in a vacuum with the only "dire" consequence being
Netero's deathwhich is hardly relevant at all to the boys' life at all. The last thing he did was play ball with thembut he has to at least make him part of the quarter arc that fixes almost everything.
Nen can pretty much do anything at this point thanks to Specialist class.
It's fine if the MCs aren't dominating provided there is actually a good plot that sucks the reader in. It was hard to feel for the Ant arc players in particular since they either didn't do much or was born yesterday.
I just dropped by actually. Glad to know some other people have decided to be vocal against this. You act like this show is beyond critique and is truly peerless when practically the only thing that goes into its conception is "let's be different for the sake of being different."
>i'm too autistic to understand the difference between a fact and an opinion
what are you trying to accomplish here besides baiting?
>Ponzu comes back
>At least this is worked into the series
I like how Killua mentions how he just goes along with what Gon does, and Gon talks about how Killua will do whatever he says. It's not flattering on either of their parts but it's a realistic expression of Gon's character flaws and the problems in their relationship.
luffy and goku don't lose fights, they struggle because if they one shot everything it'd be boring as fuck but they still inevitably win no matter what as with literally every other shonen hero besides hunter x hunter.
>The Hunter exam had its moments, but was overall pretty bad )pacing issues, big time
I can only think about the Mito filler and the half episode padding just before.
>full shonen explaining every little thing about someone's power and just powers in general
HxH is bloated with exposition, it's only the beginning.
>She is the most adorable little thing and has the voice of a thousand angels singing in harmony, but she's nothing but background fodder in the end
All girls in HxH except for Bisky.
>if Chimera Ants are as good as I hear I'm very excited
CA is a dragged out mixed bag of greatness and awfulness.
>luffy and goku don't lose fights
So you never read either series?
>Goku loses in the tournament twice
You can say that it doesn't count since he won it the third time, but then there's One Piece.
>Luffy loses against Magellan
>Luffy loses against Aokiji
>Luffy loses against Kizaru & Sentoumaru
And I don't think he'll ever fight any of them again.
circlejerking isn't baiting nigger, spouting retarded shit and then sitting back in ur chair scratching ur disgustingly thick neckbeard while you refresh the page every few secs waiting for someone to respond is baiting.
ur delusional as fuck faggot
One Piece is actually garbage, RK has decent aesthetics and character design but is so boring you can actually fall asleep to it. It's a chick show pretty much, not even worth watching past the first season.
See, I could take you seriously if you said you just didn't like it, but when you say something this extreme, your opinion is completely invalidated.
>so boring you can actually fall asleep to it
Why would you even bother saying these things?
Except for latin american version, they like to change the tune of the voices in some cases, but normally those VA do a nice job, but I don't understand why they give to Hisoka a French acent in this one, just like Mihawk on OP.
Most people like Shounen anime. HxH is actually very good, and I do reccomend you watch it. Of course, most people on this board have a terrible habit of hating stuff other people like, because they want to see themselves as better than the "average" viewer, when really they just like super niche stuff and hate the things that are made to appeal to more than one audience. Most of them are closet Naruto/Beach/One Piece fans.
As a whole, it's a good anime. If you're wondering when it picks up, it is a little later when they introduce the energy system. It's a little like Dragonball.
One Piece is fucking unwatchable dude. It's a garbage dump anime/manga where some little author toils away for a decade or two making a mountain of toilet paper. Shitty setting, plot, characters, aesthetics, fights, etc. etc.
>Why would you even bother saying these things?
Because RK is B O R I N G. The fights alone were so bad I couldn't watch past the first 30 episodes.
>how do i reading comprehension
"they still invevitably win no matter what" them getting their ass whooped a few times changes nothing if they eventually win.
>>Luffy loses against Magellan
>Luffy loses against Aokiji
>Luffy loses against Kizaru & Sentoumaru
>And I don't think he'll ever fight any of them again.
>And I don't think he'll ever fight any of them again.
>And I don't think he'll ever fight any of them again.
exactly my point faggot, the only time they lose is when the plot allows them to do so. they win in literally every other fight regardless of if it even makes sense.
This ain't reddit or your shitty Facebook messaging app, faggot. Stop typing like an actual retard and maybe people will think slightly better of your shitty opinions, series, and fanbase.
>B O R I N G
Fucking kill yourselves.
I agree, that's why I read it.
But HxH isn't any better. At all. Don't pretend it is just because.
>B O R I N G
Have it your way.
>they win in literally every other fight
Ace and Whitebeard died in Marineford, that was a loss. The Marines won.
I bet that doesn't count either. Biggest fight in the series and the MC lost it.
What poor use of music? I don't get it.
I think I'd much rather be hearing this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1-TrAvp_xs
Than what sounds like 90's detective music playing in the background during Uvo's requiem.
The 1999 version did the Hunter exam better than the 2011 version, but that's where it ends. Sure it handled atmosphere a little better, but music is hardly an issue.
This is coming from someone who watched the 1999 version up to the end of Yorknew.
I re-watched the Yorkshin arc to see how it was handled and I can't tell you how much more I enjoyed it.
The music was phenomenal. Music is only really a problem during the Hunter Exam Arc and Chimera Ant Arc. I didn't notice it at first but after re-watching it I noticed how often Hegemony of the Food Chain and Kingdom Of Predators was used.
And the only real loss in HxH is Are shitty background characters who were never relevant and Netero, whose only experience he's imparted onto the main cast was how to play keep away on one foot.
It's not that his opinion is extreme, it's just that he pretends it is to give it more impact. The fact that he does something that childish invalidates it.
>this thing I like is THE BEST THING
>this thing I don't like is THE WORST THING
You know? Anyone who says that most likely doesn't actually think like that. He doesn't think OP is garbage, he just doesn't like it, and now he's saying it's garbage to set it further apart from what he likes, the flawless HxH.
one piece is only good when you compare it trash like naruto fairy shit and bleach.
rurouni kenshin was shit, boring as fuck and dropped. take ur shit taste to literally any other thread please.
>how do i reading comprehension
"the only time they lose is when the plot allows them to do so"
don't tell me what to do fucktard, this is an ANONYMOUS IMAGE BOARD get the fuck over urself u autistic piece of shit. dont read my posts if it bothers u lmfao, u shouldn't expect me or anyone else to type pretty just to impress some invisible faggots talking shit behind their monitors. what a fucking joke.
Imo HxH is a battle shounen for people who like the genre but are getting kinda sick of it. It's not completely different or separate to or even above other battle shounen, but it can be unpredictable since it doesn't overuse tropes, often incorporates anticlimaxes etc. It doesn't overload you with fights at the very least.
>What poor use of music? I don't get it.
I can't really name the exact scene, but one standout was in the third cour of the 2011 version where they have a song playing, one of their more orchestral pieces, about a minute of silence, and then the same song and it starts right over. In general the music is all pretty heavy, which can make going from one kind of music to another pretty jarring. Also >>120405735
Right, because Togashi doesn't write the story so that the characters lose, the events happen regardless of his input because HxH is real and not a written story.
How fucking retarded are you? Gon & co. lose when Togashi writes them to lose, same as any other story.
You forgot to mention how literally every arc follows the exact same formula of get to island> filler shit> introduce bad guys> plot develops, bad guys wanna take over island> straw hats fight them> they struggle for 10-20 more episodes> they miraculously win by pulling a nakama powerup out of their ass> filler shit> fill up log pose, leave & repeat for 400 episodes straight.
Something bad happens, doesn't it?
OP my dear gentleman (tilts fedora in your direction), I am a bit saddened by your opinion of my favorite manga of all time, although I am currently more repulsed by the animosity you have received from these barbaric posters. I see you are but a simple minded fool and it is my responsibility as a man of good taste to educate you. HxH is, simply put, epic, simply epic. It brings the best of the most epic of mangas (Naruto, Narutaru, Naburo) together to form a story of which epicness reaches the epic level (it's what I'd like to call, double epic). Now that Naruto has ended, HxH now has the best Sasuke-esque character (Killua) and for this simple reason no other manga can beat it. I would like to talk more about how good HxH is but I have to depart for my afternoon tea. *tips monocle*
HxHfag here who thought One Piece was better than Hunter x Hunter for a while.
I marathoned the series in about a few weeks and it was probably the wildest ride I've had watching an anime/reading the manga (in the slower parts).
At first, I thought One Piece was like the best thing since sliced bread. But then when you catch up and look back at everything, you'll notice all the apparent flaws it has.
Starting with the terrible pacing issues - it's not as bad in the manga, but it's still there.
How repetitive some of the arcs feel. It would be stupid to say, "HURR Luffy goes to island, beat people up, get off island and go to next island." But that's essentially how it feels during the time skip. It's been 5 years and they've done nothing productive. We're still stuck on Not-Alabasta fighting Not-Crocodile, who will eventually become irrelevant when Luffy beats the shit out of him or an ally to him for the end game.
And don't even get me started on Haki. I'd admit that devil fruits were maybe just a little bit more creative than Nen abilities. But holy shit Haki just ruined all the creativity and it became about who could turn the niggerest.
And to be honest, the main characters have lost nearly all the appeal they had at the beginning/pre-timeskip. We already know what the crew is capable of/what they are going to be capable of in the future. We know Sanji/Zoro/Luffy are going to have to become strong enough to fight admirals(I'd say they're somewhat close), while everyone else in the crew becomes fodder and fights some lame vice-admirals (maybe). but it's becoming annoying that I have to wait another ten years to even see it come to fruition.
I mean Oda can write some neat twists like Law being a D, but nothing really has my interest or can surprise me as much as pre timeskip did. You already kind of know what to expect.
Whether it does or doesn't, you're treading in dangerous territory.
The ratings are based on having watched all the episodes, it's not that complicated.
Certain parts were uninteresting to me as well, namely greed island and the episodes before the hunter exam started, but in retrospect I like it overall.
He cannot even into beating the stronger contestants in the exam like Hisoka and ninja Bro.
Well after the exam he is still nowhere near Hisoka's level, and would never have won a straight fight with the Ninja guy at the time. Only the strict setting of the exam saved him. That, and the fact that his overall mule like stubbornness and grit amused the Chairman. And he still lost horridly. He spends quite a while in the following chapters really "earning" the title of Hunter, which he feels he didn't really earn at the time.
His grit and spirit make him a big deal one day. But that day will be long in coming. He is and will remain a meaty, but dauntless punching bag to a lot of people he runs into. The fact that he has not died yet has in many cases, in no way guaranteed his victory because he broke peoples hands with his face. (It's not like he wouldn't do that if he had to, but he has squarely gotten his ass kicked a lot. Put in the hospital, even. The kid gets fucked up pretty often, really.)
He has more plot armor than actual Gary Stueness in many cases. He simply can't die because it's his story.
>get to island
other than the early episodes where they just get there by ship normally, they almost never get to the islands with the same way, there always seem to be some way to fill stuff in, few examples are skypiea, thriller bark, fishman island and every island during and after the timeskip
what the fuck are you even implying here? getting to know the new characters, the setting and putting pieces to its place for the fights to happen and the plot to move forward is filler now?
>bad guys want to take over the island
you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about
>miraculously win by pulling a nakama powerup
this isn't fairy tail, everyone's power is known the moment you know the character and their specialty, the fact that some powerups happened is because they couldn't move forward otherwise, of course they ultimately have to win, the whole fucking point is that they're getting the one piece in the end, how much of a fucktard can you be?
>When exactly has this happened in OP?
Look at the conclusion to literally every one of Luffy's fights dumbfuck.
Luffy vs Arlong
Luffy vs Crocodile
Luffy vs the lightning fag
Luffy vs Lucci
Luffy vs Moriah
Every single fucking fight Luffy gets the shit beat out of him, but then his friends cheer him on or some shit and he gives the enemy one final scream punch attack for the win.
The beginning sets up many recurring characters like Pokkle, Bea girl, Netero, some pro hunters and many others. They all look unique.
The mob characters look like mob characters and the MC lile MC. What do you expect?
the non autistic nerdfags will take me seriously so its ok.
are you fucktards illiterate? was it really necessary for me to have to make the same post 3 fucking times in a row?
None of those happened because his friends cheered him on. He won those because he finally fought his enemy seriously and managed to counter his powers and strategies. Except for Lucci, that he just outlasted his opponent.
>implying HxH will finish in your or your children's lifetime
Each island at least has a compelling story. HxH takes forever to build up for a lot of nothing each and every time. Nothing Gon and friends did we're impactful to neither the world nor their characters when all is said and done. Devil Fruits are always quirky and intrigue as much as they excite. The only weird thing in HxH is Hisoka's but too bad his character is too enigmatic to actually be relevant.
Yeah, the recent arcs don't have much to brag about, but OP has great arcs that I can look back on fondly. HxH has nothing for me but disappointment.