Who won the 4th Holy Grail War, Kiritsugu or Kirei? I'm really confused.
Can we all agree that the biggest winner of all was Ryunnosuke? The man didn't even have the existential crisis of self-identifying as evil like Kirei or grail corruption like Gil. He was the only one truly happy in the end
>is a centuries-old creepy bald warlock
>rumor has it he's going senile and can't stay in the sun
>he's reputedly cruel and unscrupulous
>has a thing for parasitic insects and enslaving the wills of others
Anyone who figures this is reasonable should be sterilized.
He grew up into a self hating japanese over otaku culture, has a maid version of fastwheels magic ball, has fastwheels sister lusting after him, tells a saber clone to hide her face because it disgusts him and she loves him for it and finally he has Lluvia on a leash that makes her angrier than Rin ever could. He's what /a/ wish they could be.
>even in death kayneth gets no peace.
But why did he smash the beetles?
If this guy could kill a servant with his bare hands, I don't see why Shiki couldn't.
Just about all of them except the ones about the hotel are damn good points. That's not something anybody but the most paranoid motherfucker in the world would think to prepare for.
Once that happened, though, he had no reason to not assume any other Master in the war isn't a duplicitous asshole.
>except the ones about the hotel
Actually the hotel is the one I would defend.
Again which magus works with bombs?
Also to reinforce the structure would take lots of time and may the need of doing magic shit in open areas, which could be seen by muggles.
In the end he had fail save anyway, so why do people like he screwed up there?
>tells a saber clone to hide her face because it disgusts him
I guess Kirei did, he got to do what he wanted most of all: jogging.
HOWEVER, Kiritsugu had it coming, basically he only knows destruction so he had it even thought he didn't want it. Kirei actually WANTED destruction deep inside him, and he got it. The fact Gilgamesh got his wish granted makes me think that Kirei somehow "won" too since Gil was his servant.
Also, the Grail does whatever the fuck it wants so you can also argue that Kiritsugu won, for the reasons I exposed.
Nevertheless, it's one of thee worst endings to a good series I've ever seen. Way too confusing and 2deep4u. Don't get me wrong, I found the series to be terrific, enjoyed it a lot, but the ending is way too over-complicated, reeking of overcomplicated up-my-own-ass literary "masterpiece" by the author. If you analyze Fate/Zero by literary standards it's pretty bad (yeah, I read the novels as well) but as an anime it's good enough to keep you entertained for a while. The animation, music and overall the design of the series it's above the standard of the industry in my opinion.
tl;dr: The end itself it's way too confusing. I haven't met two persons who think the same about it (only watching the anime, that is).