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Yuri Kuma Arashi- EP3, The Invisible Storm

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Let's discuss even more of this most subtle of subtle Ikuhara shows you guys.
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>>120078368
Waifu Slaughter: Yuri Bears Edition

Shit for those with shit taste. Enjoy your suffering.
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Reminder that she is the enforcer of the silent masses. Bringing justice upon evil. A hero.
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This show literally makes zero fucking sense. Can someone's shitty fan theory start filling the gaps?

Why does going to court increase the accuracy of a rifle?
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>>120078672
The rifle is accurate, however it helps the one shooting.
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>>120078668
Also dead already or by the next episode
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>>120078672
It is supposed to represent her thoughts. She is nervous and doesn't have the balls to kill Mitsuko, but in the end she finds it inside of her. Not too different from most climatic fights in these shows.
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>this episode
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>>120078672
>"Give yourself to the bears and you love will be approved".
I guess somehow for some reason Kureha needs to get eaten by Ginko and Lulu in order for her love to grow stronger.

The other bears are instead getting in the way of her love somehow.
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So I decided to watch episode 1 on a whim and boy was that tough to watch. This shit is just so absurd, and it's obviously not meant to be taken seriously but holy fuck.
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>>120078368
>>120078672

I was a bit disappointed with just so seemingly and narrowly obvious it's seemed to have become with this episode, actually. I mean, there's little imagination left for the "Invisible Storm," now, it seems.

Is the the Invisible Storm just the student body-led process of ostracization for the time being?
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>>120078888
Is there only one class in the entire school? If there are more classes, there's probably different "Number Ones".
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So how long until Mitsuko rapes Kureha in her house late at night during a storm?
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>>120078672
Yeah , i'm getting really tired of this show's shit. You don't have to do extensive plot exposition, but this show makes no fucking sense. I mean , stuff like this >>120078888
can be understood but pretty much everything else is a dumb surreal mess. I was waiting to see if i could understand it but i think i'm finally realizing that there's nothing to understand, the show is just bad.
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>>120078942
Kureha's classroom is the only one that matters.

Kureha is the only one who matters. (Anyone not her, or Ginko or Lulu, are likely to get Kuma Shocked and offed.)

We never saw the classrooms that Utena wasn't in herself, right?
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>>120078888
Seems like it is a form of organized ostracization and bullying.

In episode1 someone decapitated all the lilies and it was said it was the work of the "invisible storm". I suppose it's called "invisible" because the hostile actions are not done openly but behind the back of the victims.
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>>120078368
RETSU SAACHI IBURU
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>>120079073
Valid point. So then, that would mean that Kureha and Sumika had express knowledge that their classmates were behind the Invisible Storm.
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>>120079040
>Literally needs to be spoonfed to understand anything
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>>120079040
It's pretty easy to understand, as long as you're not a retard.
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I'm eagerly waiting for all those idiots to eat their words when there will be huge revelations and every pieces will start to fit together.
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I'm getting the feeling that Ginko and Lulu might be the personification of Kureha's "bear" (lusting for lesbian sex) inside of her.
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>>120079141
Yes, one is to assume everybody in class knew what the invisible storm was and that Kureha and Sumika were very well aware they were being ostracized and at the risk of becoming officially excluded in an Exclusion Ritual or whatever the fuck that was called.
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>>120079163
That's my point, there isn't anything to understand. t's just a bunch of retarded "DEEP SYMBOLISM" mixed up and vomited to the audience
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>>120079040
>>120079040
It's really not that hard to understand.

Yuri Kuma Arashi (ユリ熊嵐, "Yuri Bear Storm") is an allegory for the plight faced by homosexuals in contemporary Japanese society. Despite a kind and loving composure, society still doesn't believe homosexual love is "real", consequently the girl's love constantly needs to be tested.

The Invisible Storm refers to being ostracized by the group.

The phantasmagorical fantasy sequences are symbolic of how fantasy is always great than reality, and how the romance Kureha felt for Sumika will always be more limpid and sonorous in her mind, where it will now forever remain. It is true that the people concerned in anime are not what we would call 'real people.' But none of the feelings which the joys or misfortunes of a 'real' person awaken in us can be awakened except through a mental picture of those joys or misfortunes; and the ingenuity of the first writer or director lay in his understanding that, as the picture was the one essential element in the complicated structure of our emotions, so that simplification of it which consisted in the suppression, pure and simple, of 'real' people would be a decided improvement.
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>>120079248
I wish I could've seen /a/'s threads if it existed during Utena.
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>>120079294
>it's just a show that expresses many of its themes using symbols instead of explicit narrative
There's no reason to act as if using symbols is a bad thing. It sounds like you're just angry because you expected something incredibly deep and got a show with simple themes.
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>>120079321
I just can't get over how this show is called LESBIAN BEAR STORM
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>>120079384
Actually , i think that's exactly it. I couldn't put it into words but i think you're right anon.
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>>120079328

Thank god it didn't.
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>>120079141
Maybe not necessarily-- they could have vague notions of it, by happening to not have been around for repeated instances of the "voting," or maybe they fear something even more sinister and less transparent is at work.

I mean, surely there's more to the Invisible Storm than just student-body-led ostracization right?

Surely.

(Geez, this show's been wearing its thematic points so heavily on its sleeves.)
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>>120078888
people out of the invisible storm die, the invisible student think they are something big, but after all they are just instruments of the teacher and the bears.
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>>120079040
>The story is fucking confusing, fuck this show!!!

>>120078888
>>120079294
>The story is too easy to understand, fuck this show!

Being an anime director is suffering...
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>>120079283
However, did exclusion imply dying before Sumikas dead?
It seemed like Kureha and Sumika didnt really care about the invisible.
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It's three episodes in and I don't really get what the fuck is going on.

Shaba-da-doo.
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>>120079544
Well it's obviously something about yuri. Is it so simple that the theme is be true to your desires? Are some girls bears and others not, showing that you are predestined to your fate of being an open or closet lesbian? Are men actually lesbians (that guy made me laugh)? The overall idea of the theme might be simple, but until the show is over these multiple interpretations can all exist.
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>>120079634
You are dumb.

Shabadadoo.
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>>120079473
THOS LEGS. They look so ready to step on people.

>>120079321
Good points! Though you lost-

>But none of the feelings which the joys or misfortunes of a 'real' person awaken in us can be awakened except through a mental picture of those joys or misfortunes; and the ingenuity of the first writer or director lay in his understanding that, as the picture was the one essential element in the complicated structure of our emotions, so that simplification of it which consisted in the suppression, pure and simple, of 'real' people would be a decided improvement.

… me a bit with the point in that extra long sentence. Maybe more than a bit.
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>>120079705

This show is an allegory for the struggle between Enlightenment thinkers and Romanticism during the 18th and 19th century.
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>invisible storm
>is just a bunch of angry lesbians
and dropped
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>>120079705
>Is it so simple that the theme is be true to your desires?
Desires is a complicated word. Depending on how you interpret it, the ones who are true to their desires are flesh eating bears.
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>>120078924
That could be a funeral for virginity and the parts not eaten of Akae could have been stuff she wore like her headband

They could go either way.

Maybe bears are just people that have been eaten? In other words non-virgins? That seems to go against the initial story of magic space rock but perhaps bears are people that have had sex. Because perverts are condemned and monstrosized and yuri love is often seen in Japan as a pure and sexless love at times which enables those in the school to remain humans and non-bears

I'll have to rewatch the episodes though as I've already forgotten stuff.
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>>120079763
>is just a bunch of angry lesbians

Hmmm, no as far as I can tell the invisible storm is about a bunch of homophobic girls.
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>>120079618
The students seem to believe so, since the whole point of sticking together is not being eaten by bears.
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Only the tomboy left. Then the Killer-Three and the three judges are left.
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>>120079871
She wasn't killed, anon.
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I swear if all the girls come back alive at the end we riot.
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>>120079871

Mitsuko's not gone, and it's odds on that the others will be back at some point too.
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>>120079871
I wouldn't be so fast at killing off Mitsuko.

Also that image doesn't show Katyusha.
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>>120079788
I don't think you need to interpret it that hard- you pretty much hit it. Another part of it may be whether you indiscriminately desire others or only go for one person.

Then there's the weird part where bears must eat to survive, but won't necessarily eat indiscriminately. Is the Invisible Storm to protect them against bears, or is it designed to make an easy target for the bears? What if everyone decides to be invisible- will the hidden bears force someone out? There's still a lot to think about.
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>>120079869
However, they stick together and get eaten, at least since Ginko and Lulu transferred in.
Hopefully the deaths amongst themselves will cause panic and intrigue and split them apart.
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>>120079871
>He thinks Student Prez is dead
>HE ACTUALLY THINKS STUDENT PREZ IS DEAD
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>>120079943
>"come back alive"

They were never dead, anon. They just crossed over into the bear world of being true to their (lesbian) desires.
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>>120079871
is the fanbase of this show so dumb that they can't see that the president didn't fucking die?
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>>120079943
We don't really have hard evidence that they died though.
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>>120079966
What will safe her?
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>>120079943
>we
Yeah, no.
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>>120080053
Her yandere love
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>thinking they'd kill off a star like Y.Aoi after 3 episodes
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>>120078888
>>120079862

Might the Invisible Storm try to exclude people based on something else, though, or other things? Maybe not (just) homophobia? Though it seems fairly obvious, they've not made deliberate mention of what they're excluding Sumika *for*, or how she's so much *different* (and therefore "evil") that she needs to be excluded for it.
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>>120079752
He means that even if a you feel real love or hate or something towards a person or thing, you don't need a real person or thing to trigger that love or hate, a mere picture, or simplification is enough, and that's where the ingenuity of the creator of a piece of art lies.

I think.
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>>120080053
>thinking that falling from the third floor is 100% lethal.

Don't do that anon. If you want to kill yourself do it from the 5th floor or above.
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>>120080053
the tree, duh
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>>120078672
bears = sexual predators
yuri bears = lesbian sexual predators
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>>120079950
It doesn't show butterfly-chan either. I guess she dies irrelevant and off screen too.
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>>120080210
It is only 3 of 12
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>>120080210
She's still alive in this episode at least.
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>>120080095
They already killed off top class senyuu in first episode anon.
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>>120080106

It's saying that when you see somebody and feel any emotion, those emotions are awakened solely through the mental picture your brain is constructing of them.

Because of that, those same emotions can be awakened through constructing the mental picture by any means, you don't need a real person in front of you to do it. If an artists or a writer or whatever does it, it's exactly the same in terms of what your brain is experiencing than if you're seeing a real person in front of you.
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>>120080207
Oh, someone agrees with me.
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>>120079961
Yes, the system became flawed the moment there were bears infiltrated as humans. They still believe in it though since the news of infiltrated bears has not spread.
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>>120080356
Yes, that's what I meant, although "exactly" is too strong a word there.
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>>120080341
>senyuu
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>>120079966
SHOOOCK
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>>120079871
>>120079966
It was only her arm that was hit, right? Combine that with no death confirmed onscreen and it seems that she's survived to rape another day
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>>120080504
She's the final boss.
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>>120080341
>Ogura
>top tier seiyuu
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>>120079943

There's no way megane is dead. I doubt the other two are dead as well.
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>>120079955
>Then there's the weird part where bears must eat to survive, but won't necessarily eat indiscriminately.
It's impossible to completely repress sexual desire without expecting any sort of consequence, but people are repressing their sexual impulses every day in every corner. It's a part of being in a civilized society.
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>>120080550

If they're not dead then what does a bear "eating" a girl mean?
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>>120080504
I don't think even her arm was hit, the bullet just grazed her and ripped her armband off.
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The thing I notice is that when Sumika and Kureha talk about their relationship they always use the word "好き" "suki". Which can mean "love" but it can also be used as "love" in a purely friendly sense.

They don't use the word "愛" "ai", love in a clearly romantic sense. or "恋" "koi", love in a more sexual sense.
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Great scene.
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>>120080096

Probably because she is still mourning the death of her friend, which is causing her to stand out.

>>120080210

I wish bonnets were still in style.
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>>120080593
To be honest in the case of Sumika we didn't even see her corpse.
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Are they saying "delicious meal" and not "delicious smell"

They haven't really done anything to smell Kureha yet, they just want to eat her so meal would make more sense.
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>>120080699
Britbongs call car hoods bonnets so the word is still used
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>>120080722
Pretty sure this a bout to become a corpse?
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>>120080724
smell
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>>120080775

That could be any dyke that the bears wanted to eat.
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>>120080674
What is Kureha's ass supposed to mean?
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dropped
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>>120080724
It's smell. Meal would sound different, even in Engrish.
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>>120080724
Ginko is definitely saying "delicious smell".
Bears have a very developed sense of smell, they were able to smell every single girl in the classroom simply from their position when they were introduced.
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>>120080724
Apparently, it could also be just "delicious mel."

Asenshi-Subs said in their page for episode 2 that "mel" is Latin for honey. SO IT'S A PUN, ISN'T THAT FUN
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>>120080824

Kureha represents persistence in the face of great adversity. Because Kureha will "never give up on love", he ass represents doubt and turning her ass around represents her slaying her own doubt. It is then that love guides her bullet (hints the title, Yuri Love Bullet), and strikes all those that oppose her love.
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>>120080775

That isn't Sumika, and here is why: Mitsuko would've recognized who they were eating here. She knows Sumika very well and knew she was missing. She would've known her instantly. She didn't. It will turn out that was some nameless, faceless member of the Invisible Storm.
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>>120080775
That's most definitely not Sumika. This is one of the victims of Lulu of Ginko, and it is clear that the one that ate Sumiko is in fact Mitsuko.
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>>120080962
>>120080808
>>120080994
The corpse lying there is not the corpse being eaten by the bears Mitsuko sees. The scenes are at two different points of time, but cut in sequence.
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I think it's interesting that the bears were nice to kureha yet they went and ate the other girls right after.

I wonder if it's supposed to be an aesop about punishing wrongdoers or something.
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>>120078672

Better question is what does the student-body being behind the Invisible Storm have to do with the men from the Wall of Severence asking the bears if they want to be Invisible?

What happens if the bears choose to be invisible?
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>>120081104
Everyone who harms Kureha will be made disappear by Ginko.
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>>120080724
デリシャスメル
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>>120081116

If the bears choose to be invisible, they accept that they will never be allowed to openly express their homosexuality and instead choose to live a life without ridicule and sacrifice, but without love.
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>>120081099
There is no reason to think it's definitely so. And even if it is another corpse it could be anyone's corpse. The point that we have never seen for certain Sumika's corpse still stands
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>>120081104

You're only just now figuring this out? The only girl CONFIRMED killed by Lulu and Ginko (that is, Sidetail) is an enemy of love and freedom.
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>>120080724
It's a portmanteau of delicious and smell actually. Deliciousmell.
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>>120081180

So the student body is the one sending the number of the girl they select to the men-bears at The Wall?
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>>120080625
Actually, her arm band seemed like it was bloodied. Kureha's wouldn't be that good/bad to get such a clean shot and just knock off the headband.*

*well, that seemed to work out for Utena and the roses she knocked off with her sword but even so.
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>>120081242
Wrong. Akae was eaten by then and at least one more, when they where discovered by Mitsuko.
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>>120081242

No, I get that. It's just I'm wondering how they'll justify the extreme difference to Kureha when she figures it out.
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>>120079275

Oh man, Kureha must really want to fuck.
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>>120081300
>Bloodied
I think that's the inside of the band and it being torn
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>>120081300
>Arashigao
>GAO
Whole school is bears.
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>>120081413
Arashigaoka is Japanese for Wuthering Heights
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Okay so basically

The school is a safe place for delicate young girls to be "friends", but if you cross that line you get eaten by Bears. However the Bears only go after people who are alone, and the student body chooses who to ostracize. This means they're essentially pushing people into being eaten by Bears.

What this actually means is that anyone who tries to be gay is isolated and forced out, socially excluded and ignored by the conservative culture. I guess you could extrapolate this to argue that nobody's actually been killed by Bears, they're just being ignored by everyone and left the school to go have wild lesbian sex at bars or forced to transfer by their parents or something else.
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>>120080053
You could hear the trees

Also she's a bear
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>>120080960
So this a Mahou Shoujo Anime after all?
Might just add it to the mix:
Mahou Shoujo Yuri Mystery Thriller Horror
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>>120081501
I haven't read Wuthering Heights but it's clear that the "arashi" part of YKA is a reference to that book.

Somebody noticed any connection apart from the school name?
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>>120081655
err I wouldn't say that... why everything with a female lead needs to be a mahou shoujo?
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>>120081609
Part of the student body still get eaten, so it doesnt matter if you a cross a line.
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>>120081657
Wuthering Heights is also a play included in the anime and manga of Aoi Hana, in which Ikuhara directed the OP for the anime.
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>>120081657
Well, the book is about how passionate love is destructive.

So.
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>>120081724
>It is then that love guides her bullet (hints the title, Yuri Love Bullet), and strikes all those that oppose her love.
Sounded like it could be straight out of a Mahou Shoujo.
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>>120081655
It's got magical transformation scenes every episode, so sure
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>>120080651
To be honest I wouldn't put too much emphasis on their choice here.
Suki is very much your standard way of making your affections known regardless of it being an exclamation of philia, sorge or eros.
Especially early on in a relationship, going all aishiteru on your partner would feel rather overbearing and artificial.
Although I'm not sure how long those two had been dating at this point. Teenagers throwing around ai and koi would still feel like Romeo and Juliet levels of foolishness and impulsiveness. If they want to showcase Kureha's love as the real deal and not just a phase it feels more natural not to go overboard with the wording here.
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>>120081657
>it's clear that the "arashi" part of YKA is a reference to that book.
It's also a reference to Kuma Arashi, a book narrating the Sankebetsu brown bear incident.
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>>120081778

The person who was eaten this ep was gay too, so it's poetic justice. Ringo and Lulu are different from the other bears, they seem to be protecting Kureha for some reason.
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>>120081818
It even has transformation scenes.
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So can we all agree that the two bears seen in episode 1 were Mitsuko and Konomi?

At the very least one of them must be Mitsuko, since those are Sumika's glasses and Mitsuko has them in Ep3
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>>120081902
After this episode it's pretty much undeniable.
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>>120079294
Just like Utena and Penguindrum. It's just the style.

And most of us like it.
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>>120081865
She literally marked Sumika and Kureha as evil for being gay, So she was that envy kind of gay?
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>>120081902
It is a given fact by now. Mitsuko ate Sumika and Konomi trotted along as a sidekick.
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>>120081902
I think there was a picture somewhere comparing the eye shapes and colors of episode 1 bears and Mitsuko's/Konomi's. I agree with you, though.
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>>120081902
Yep, that's confirmed.
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>>120081902
Therefore it is also agreed that Sumika was eaten by Mitsuko and Konomi.
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>>120082147
Mostly Student Prez than Squirrel-chan
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Score is back to even. They both don't deserve the Kureha.
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>>120079321
This all sounds very pretty but doesn't really make any of the (what looks like) symbolism in the show consistent or clear or even appropriate, not in your explanation on its own anyhow.

Some folks will rage over it being obscure regardless but the point is that despite that overarching theme of conformity, denial and sexual "deviance", the more important metaphors and symbols are still pretty vague so far, frustratingly so sometimes. Kind of like your explanation.
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>>120082590
>Even
Student Prez still has the highest kills
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>>120082640
Meant even in terms of "characters with at least some screentime" killed.

Mitsuko`s overall kills are presumingly of the roof, yes.
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>>120082719
And considering she didn't die expect a boost
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Holy shit, I just noticed this. HachiOuji and Tekina//Something produced the ED? I knew I liked this song for a good reason.
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>>120080504
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So piecing everything together.
>Mitsuko has a preference for girls that are not "invisible". To her they taste a lot better.
>Mitsuko finds out that Kureha and Sumika are in a forbidden relationship, they are not invisible! Suddenly she feel the urge to eat them.
>The invisible storm happens, someone decapitates all the lilies that Sumika and Kureha were growing. We know that Mitsuko wants the invisible storm to happen. She might have sent someone to do the dirty job, or maybe she did it herself.
>Mitsuko uses that chance to befriend Sumika and Kureha, she shows herself as someone that understand them and support them, while in reality she is probably the one behind the invisible storm.
>Mitsuko eats Sumika. As she later said, she enjoyed her meal very much, however it seems that she is looking mostly forward to eat Kureha. Kureha must really be a very delicious treat for bears. Most likely Mitsuko wants Kureha to offer herself to her.
>Now that Sumika is taken off of the picture Mitsuko proceeds with her plan to ensnare Kureha in her web even more.
>With the help of Konomi she stages a bear assault against Kureha. Kureha faints and then Mitsuko brings them to the infirmary.
>Mitsuko realizes that there are two other bears feasting in her territory and she isn't pleased. The two bears are also evidently after the same delicious treat she is after (Kureha) so she tries to drive them away with a gun.
>Mitsuko in order to make Kureha fall for her even more doesn't stop in front of anything and mercilessly kills Konomi while she was assaulting Kureha out of Jealousy. Mitsuko thinks of nothing of friendship, Konomi served her better by dying by her hands at that point.
>Mitsuko wants to weaken Kureha even more and she makes it so she gets selected during the exclusion ceremony. The real "invisible storm" happens. Now Mitsuko is officially ostracized.
>Mitsuko finally decides it's time to reveal her true colors to Kureha and openly attacks her.
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>>120082760
But I dont want Ruru to die.
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>>120082832
HOLY SHIT EVERYTIME IT LOOKS TERRIBLE.
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>>120081323
>>120082590
I can't remember, does Katyusha appear in ep2 or 3 at all? If not, nothing's stopping her from being the girl being eaten at the end of 1.
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Why aren't they eating Kureha? or rather, if licking her lily counts as eating, then why does it have a different meaning for the other girls?
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>>120083007
She certainly appears in Ep1 but I don't think we have seen her at all afterwards. She might as well been the first victim of Lulu and Ginko.
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>>120078672
The honey is her emotions flowing over, they're feeding on them which, in turn, calmed her down enough to shoot. People have been saying that they feed on emotions since day one.
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>>120083007
>>120083147
Quite the possibility, there also never was a body shot of her, right?
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>>120083078
Did it actually happen that they ate her? It seems to me every time we see that happening it's always in some kind of metaphysical context.
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>>120082873
I'm gonna stop you after two lines. Sumika was the first non-invisible girl she ate from how she puts it, and she was after Kureha even before then.
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>>120078672
They licked the honey from her hair which tends to calm women down
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>>120082832
>not noticing immediately
Step it up anon.
I don't like it as much as some of Tekina//Something's other songs, but it has grown on me.
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>>120083297
I'll try that the next time a girl gets mad at me.
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>>120082873
Broken done, yes, this could be Mitsukos actions in a chronological order.
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>>120083007
>>120083147
I was going to say that her socks were wrong type to be the victim but now that I rewatched the first episode I noticed that we never see her socs. I guess it really was her.
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It would be a massive waste of talent and a missed opportunity if predatory lesbian Aoi Yuuki dies early on.
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If the spiral leaves do not depict the invisible storm, what else could they be?
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>>120083508
Chespin using Leaf Storm
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>>120083394
Aw yeah!
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>>120083533
Woodman was the better guess then.
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>>120083220
What do you mean by body shot? If you mean a shot of her as a corpse, nope. We have never really seen any identifiable corpse.
If you mean a shot where her full body is visible, see picture, although it's very small.
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>>120083508
Konomi was technically part of the invisible storm since she was keeping her identity secret. Just like how Mitsuko was still in it even after she ate Sumika.
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>>120083485
I was about to comment on that. In a couple of shots it's like her socks were purposely and conveniently covered to throw us off.
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So the invisible storm isn't just to be completely homophobic because they're going too far over the line, but some kind of misguided attempt to keep everyone at their school from standing out so as to not attract bears?
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>>120083602
Here's another one. Also this one >>120083595
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>>120083508
Both that storm effect and Konomi's long teeth chara design are reminiscent of old styled anime.

I hadn't seen those quite in a while.
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>>120083705
>>120083602
>>120083595
So we never see her socks, but so much of her leg is showing that it's probably most likely her.

Nice.
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>>120083621
I suppose it could be a reaction to any kind of deviance, lesbianism being one case.
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>>120083595
Meant a shot where you can see her whole body close up, socks included.
It seems such a shot/angle was avoided as seen in >>120083705 >>120083602
However, from your pick it seems like she wears low or ankle socks.
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>>120083402
If she has no honey in her hair you're pretty much fucked, though.
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>>120083621

Actually it's the reverse, by ostracizing anyone who stands out they're deliberately feeding them to the bears.
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>>120081858
>If they want to showcase Kureha's love as the real deal and not just a phase it feels more natural not to go overboard with the wording here.
>overboard with the wording here.

Dunno, I think there have been enough repeated "skis" to fill a ski resort

A resort prone to wild bear attacks, naturally.
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Did anyone make a chart for episode 2 or was there not enough new stuff to justify making one?
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So far the only character who is listed and/or credited on the main site who hasn't made her debut is Kaoru. To put things into perspective, Eriko (side-tail), Katyusha and butterfly-chan aren't even listed, but Konomi is.
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>>120083956
It is overflowing, how should it be put into a chart?
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>>120084134

I wouldn't get your hopes up.

I think I speak for everyone here when I say tomboys are gay.
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>>120083840
>However, from your pick it seems like she wears low or ankle socks.
Yep, and that is consistent with what we have seen of Ginko and Lulu's victim.
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>>120084174
>I think I speak for everyo-
Shut up.
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>>120083954
what the fuck, why would you not use colour-coded difficulty levels, it's so much easier to tell blue/green/black at a glance.
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I'm so glad these threads haven't devolved into a bunch of unbearable puns.
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>>120080699
>mourning death of her friend causes Kureha to stand out and be marked as evil.

Good lord. Guess even "true" friendships, and ones not necessarily(!?) romantic, can't thrive at this school.

A school of corpses it is.
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>>120084186
This is actually some well thought out misdirection, unlike a certain other show this season
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I have no clue what's going on in this show. It's like Ikuhara is just throwing shit together this time. Why is there a trial every episode? What are the two bears transforming into (during the transforming sequence)?
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>>120084186
Damn, I was lead to hard to believe it had to be Sumika. Fell for it. So there is no broken narrative or chronological misorder. But Akae being eaten by Ginko and Lulu.
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>>120084313
Why do I see so many posts like this, do people not read the rest of the thread before they post?
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>>120084269
It's obviously a commentary on how society isn't comfortable with emotions and discourages people from being emotional.
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>>120084355
Reading is too hard for them. You have to spoonfeed the newfags until they're mature enough to understand the show.
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>>120084174
Kaoru does defy the girl at the head of the class by standing out when the virtue of not standing out is preached, after all.

Maybe Kaoru will defy the stereotype.

Or maybe not. Ikuni won't let non-yurifags have a waifu to call their own.
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Question, Asenshi subs subs actual subs or just crunchy rips?
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>>120084313
>this time
We all know you probably watched Utena and/or Penguindrum in a few sittings, but you might have forgotten that there weren't a lot of concrete answers in those 3 episodes in either, or even 1/4 of the way in. If it's going to bother you that much, stop watching and marathon it when it's over and then you can just have everyone else who was able to follow it spoonfeed you what you missed.
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This show has really lost me in this episode.

Student Prez says she killed Sakura. She even had proof.

Problem is, she walked in into Ginko and Lulu eating someone behind the flowerbed. Also, we had almost certainty that that corpse was Sumika because she had the same socks.

Also, what does eating Tsubaki have to do about Ginko's love? And what's the point of the trial?

Cannot compute....
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>>120084546

It's really quite simple, anon. Yuri Kuma is (trying) to show that the self-interested and self-sufficient individual remains the ideal, in which the centering of rational choice and a capacity of transcendence both occludes group-based harms of systemic oppression and conceals the complicity of individuals in the perpetuation of systemic injustices.
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>>120084313
Pretty sure everyone on /a/ watched Utena in a few sittings since it came out, you know back in the 90s. As for Pingudrum, I watched that while it was airing with /a/, and it was a lot more coherent than YKA is so far. I'm liking YKA so far, but honestly it doesn't make sense (yet at least)
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>>120084134
Kaoru? She doesn't have "Yuri" in her surname right? Do we have the name of butterfly-chan?
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>>120084605
Was meant for >>120084495
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>>120084546
Really, faggot? Can you not read the thread? Your exact questions are answered in multiple posts and screenshots.

>Also, what does eating Tsubaki have to do about Ginko's love?
Probably has something to do with her wearing her mother's necklace and "I won't forgive those that destroy love"
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>>120084614
Butterfly and Katyusha don't have Yuri in their name, but pretty much every single girl has some flower name. Even after this episode only those with yuri in their name have been bears.
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>>120084546
I can't tell anymore if retards really don't read even the last few posts made in the thread, or if someone is pretending to be retarded on purpose.
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>>120084134
Looks like best girl material.
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The court scenes are really fucking confusing me now. I thought I understood at first but now they make no sense to me. Why is it always Ginko and Lulu that appear and none of the other bears? It's like the same trial every time regardless of the situation or whether they're even around Kureha or not at the time it happens. Is the trial actually for Kureha and she's like secretly into Ginko and Lulu or something? I really don't follow why it's not changing up any ever.
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>>120078368
Is Asenshi out yet?
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That school progresses slow as hell.
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>>120084413
Strange, her name didn't figure in the first 6 chosen in the exclusion ceremony
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>>120084730
>Managed to burn through a large eraser
>Still on the same page as when you got it
Christ Kureha, the hell were you doing with that thing
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>>120084730
Maybe she was only projecting half of her flashback onto her hand.
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>>120084709
Learn to RSS feed
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>>120084605
A fourth of the way into Penguindrum, we had no clue what seizon senryaku was about, what the penguindrum was, why the sister survived with a hat, who the red haired bitch with her own penguin was, why it was all about helping that one chick bang her sister's exboyfriend. There were pretty much about the same amount of unanswered questions at this point in Penguindrum as there are now in YKA, and I'm probably even forgetting some.
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>>120084614
See
>>120080210

>大木蝶子

I don't know how 大木 is pronounced, I'm going to guess Ooki. 蝶子 is pronounced Chouko. So Ooki Chouko. Alternatives include

Oogi Chouko
Taiki Chouko
Daiki Chouko

Anyway, no yuri.
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So Shabadadu = Shibireru, right?

Ikuhara loves to self-insert as a cool adult man who is pulling all the strings.
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>>120084730
You don't get it nigga it's DEEP SYMBOLISM

SHABADADOO TOO DEEP FOR YOU
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>>120084866
Oh, and the 蝶 in 蝶子 means 'butterfly'.
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>>120084708
The trial has something to do with Kureha's love. The big mystery is trying to understand what is the special connection between Kureha, Lulu and Ginko.

So far Lulu and Ginko don't seem to have done anything hostile towards either Kureha nor Sumika. Their only confirmed victims are Katyusha and side-tail.
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>>120084422
Actual subs. And the this is Funi, not CR.
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>>120084546
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>>120084797
She rubbed herself with it thinking of Sumika.
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On the last scene, it says that you can't take part in the Exclusion Ceremony until you take part in the Invisible Storm.

What does that mean?
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>>120085081
The trial has to do something with Ginko trying to protect Kureha.
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>>120084866
I've been calling her Butterfly because of her hairpin, but it turns out Butterfly is actually her name!
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>>120085168
Invisible Storm = Birdgroup Students
Exclusion Ceremony = What the birdgroup does
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>>120085168
You have to be a part of the group (friends only, no standing out) in order to ostracize the few others who are special.
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>>120084848
>A fourth of the way into Penguindrum, we had no clue what seizon senryaku was about, what the penguindrum was
People guessed that the penguindrum was the apple that she pulled out in episode/the brothers' shared destiny. And while we didn't know exactly what seizon senryaku was, we could ascertain that she was taking something from Kanba and it was a method for the Princess to communicate with the brothers.
>who the red haired bitch with her own penguin was
We knew that she was some former relation of Kanba, and that's not the same as not knowing what's going on with this show. You could ascertain after the first episode what the brothers' end game was that the PotC was trying to use the brothers to change destiny. Characters had a clear motivation and the over arching plot of both Utena and Penguindrum was clear from the beginning. With this one, I don't get the bears motivation. The only one that has any clear motivation so far is Kureha, but even hers is muddled so far.
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>>120079040

There's nothing to understand.

It's the kind of shit anime that people are going to make up bullshit explanations to explain otherwise bad storylines and fool themselves into thinking how deep it is.
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>>120085168
Maybe that you first need to participate in the organized bullying of someone that has been ostracized and only then you can vote.
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>>120085121
It's not confirmed, it's just a plausible conjecture at this point.
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>>120085286
>I'm too dumb to understand the show so everyone else who does are making shit up
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>>120084597
So Yuri Kuma is basically advocating a utopian, Lesbian, Randian vision?

Huh. Well, the bears sure do seem to be trying to Shrug off Atlas….
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>>120084730
Pre-test review.
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>>120085383
>It's not confirmed
They explicitly say they ate her, and the class prez explicitly says she ate glasses, what do you mean it's not confirmed?
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>>120085523
The only other possibility is that that corpse is of some other never mentioned victim that happens to also have short socks.
But yeah, Occam's razor dictates that that's Katyusha.

We also have never seen Katyusha alive after ep1.
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>>120085523
Disregard me, I'm a retard.
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>>120085168
She said that you need to become part of the group first, then you can join the ritual and storm. Also, there was a Location sign that said "Invisible Storm" during the meeting. The Storm likely refers both to the group and the actions of it.
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Aren't school uniforms supposed to be UNIFORM?
How come some girls (Ginko and Lulu) (and a few others I think) have different uniforms?
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>>120085271
Ginko has been shown to be associated with Kureha's mother, and the mention of "friend" without any specific name points clearly to a twist where Sumika wasn't the friend from Kureha's past. The story is about the two of them (plus Lulu), with themes of bullying and sexuality on the side.
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>>120085224
Katyusha is named after her hairpiece as well.
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>>120085851
Does her name mean sexy, popped collar, or tomboy?
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>>120085656

>>120085929
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>>120085656
Is this your first anime where suddenly there's a transfer student?

They always keep the school uniform of their previous school for some reason.
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>>120085929
>>120085961
It's amusing how many posts this character gets, considering she hasn't even been introduced in the anime.

All we know from her is literally out of the website.
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>>120086048
And Hikasa Youko.
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>>120085929
If you mean "kaoru" her name means "perfume" or "(pleasant) smell". Her surname means "big tree"
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Why does Kureha's line here feel like something I'd see out of an R-18 doujinshi, especially in the context of the first two episodes' lily-licking scenes' apparent metaphors for forced cunnilingus? It feels like a line of thinking not far removed from "No, really, it wasn't rape because she started enjoying it"

>>120085081
>Lulu and Ginko don't seem to have done anything hostile towards either Kureha nor Sumika.

Can't at least the first two transformation+yuri-tastic sequences be construed to be rapey? Heck, even the latest one still has its nonconsensual elements, though it seems to have started sliding into a more 'consensual' arena.
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>>120086220
Considering it saved her life, I don't think she'll care.
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The girl from Kureha's class who is mentioned in episode 2 to have disappeared is Katyusha.

I thought it was the invisible girl who was eaten by Mitsuko at first, but it can't be. There's no girl missing from their class. Whoever Mitsuko ate, it was a girl from some other class. We're being mislead all of the fucking time here.

Notice that Katyusha is missing in the episode 1 picture because she's out retrieving the REMOVE KUMA banners, but she must have sat besides Ginko and Ruru, making her a strong candidate for being the first to stir up their appetite.
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BTW if someone didn't know already this person name's here since it's "ユリーカ" and not the Japanese "ゆりか" suggests it's actually a transliteration of "Eureka".

For comparison check the katakana of the movie Eureka:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_%282000_film%29
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>>120086220
>Can't at least the first two transformation+yuri-tastic sequences be construed to be rapey?
Depends on how "real" you want to consider those scenes. This isn't as Murakami as MPD was, doesn't have the same "you should feel guilty as fuck about imaginary sex" strings attached.
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>>120086437
>>120085523
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>mfw the courtroom scene every episode
At least zettai unmei mokushiroku and rock over japan were exciting and pretty hype to watch no matter how repetitive they got. The judges are just annoying and it feels shoe-horned and too jarring unlike the other ones which actually flowed with their respective episodes.
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>>120086048
/a/ has a history of worshiping background characters. The fact that she has a name is already a lot.
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>>120086220
Those scenes seem to be very metaphorical even in the context of the story.
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>>120086574
I miss Seizon Senryaku too. This one just doesn't have the same life.
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>>120086115
>Her surname means "big tree"
That's butterfly-chan. Kaoru's surname is 針島, which means Needle Island.
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>>120082873
>Now Mitsuko is officially ostracized

You mean Kureha, right?
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Oh right, I messed up
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>>120086574
I know what you mean. No zany musical segment, just some notes here but no lyrics. I was hoping that it would be YURI CHANGE THE TELOS like in the manga
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>>120084219
it is I think, its just a bad scan
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Am I the only one completely unsurprised that Lulu and Ginko turned out to be benevolent characters who only eat Invisible Storm fascists? Come on, there was no way they'd have been able to win the Kurehabowl otherwise.
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>>120086828
yeah...>>120086848
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>>120086437
I know they ate her. I just thought it was relevant to point out that they were already talking about her disappearance in episode 2. If it weren't for that classroom shot, we'd have no way of knowing whether they were talking about Katyusha or the other invisible girl.

It also proves that girls from other classes get eaten too, which might seem obvious using common sense, but from a story telling point of view not so much. I was assuming up till now that all of the bear action would stay confined to their class.

Not that relevant, but we've pretty much run out of things to talk about, so might as well start picking on details.
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Nigga I am pretty sure these girls are really getting fucking eaten by bears, metaphors my ass
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>>120086888
No, I don't think many people are surprised. I actually originally thought they ate Sumiko because she was somehow lying to Kureha or using her or something, hence Ginko's line about destroying love. I feel like I almost would have preferred that to be the case if not only for the fact Sumiko is progressively becoming a worse character with each episode.
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>>120086220
Girls can't rape girls.
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>>120086964
meant for
>>120086554
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>>120086964
Any idea on this case? Besides she being an unimportant offscreen character, only being there to point out how Sumika and Kureha differ from invisible girls?
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>>120086574
I have to agree. They should have put some more effort into making is some pretty to look at and nice to listen to like ZUM and SS were.
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>>120087118
You never heard of strap-on dildo?
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I was so glad they changed up the sequence this time. I was just about ready to give up on trying to understand the court shit until this episode
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>>120087197
Like I said, she's not even from their class. Can't get more invisible and irrelevant than that.
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>>120087259
I think that it is kind of obvious that the court scene in this episode symbolized her finally getting the balls to shoot that /u/rsine cunt, with the gun coming out between her legs.
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>>120087259
Imagine waking up when you were getting eaten by two bears. It would be horrifying
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>>120087244
Well SS and ZUM were absolutely fantastic. It's a real pity they couldn't do something as much as awesome.
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>>120086574
You know what the problem is? The music

There isn't a fucking awesome song to go with the stock footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHOFE718uZ0
http://vimeo.com/86173246
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>>120087335
Not if said bears looked more like kemonomimi moe girls.
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Point is...you are alive, when they start to eat you...

KUMA SHOCK
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>>120087414
That plays a big part, but consider the sequence of SS, it's visually outstanding.
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>sumiko
>sumiko
>sumiko
>sumiko
It's Gau... I mean, Sumika.
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>>120087074
We always said the eating was literal. That doesn't stop it from being a metaphor for something else though.
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>>120087509
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>>120087335
>It would be horrifying
Don't you mean shocking?
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>>120087645
But the eating of Kureha is metaphorical only, hence why she is still alive and well after being "eaten" three times and counting.
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Slowpoking here, but Ginko's bear form is wearing the same star pendant as Kureha's mom, yes?
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>>120087743
The Yuri Shounin sequence is a special case which we don't understand very well yet. I'm not even sure if we should be calling that 'eating'.
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>>120087885
Can be assumed, there seems to be some connection.
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>>120087414
>>120087534
>that experience of watching Seizon Senryaku for the first time
God dammit, I still get goosebumps. That shit was so fantastic I have no words to describe it.
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>>120087414
>>120086574
>>120086574
There is some music!
But it's after the court scene. And it's Gounod's Ave Maria, for crying out loud-- something so beautiful and soulful for me that I find it saddening to see it incorporated in such a scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb-Oa7P4ubI&spfreload=10
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>>120088088
>you will never be Welcomed to Rock and Roll Night for the first time again
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>>120088179
The music needs to be before to get you hyped up every time like these >>120087414. Ikuhara didn't deliver this time.
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>>120088179
But that's not fucking awesome rock/pop like ZUM or ROJ are
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>>120087414
>not posting the superior Banyuu Inryoku version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCMUfQnu5vg
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>>120087414
>>120088088
>Rock over Japan
Holy fuck I haven't heard this in years.
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What's YKA's equivalent?
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>>120088855

MOKUSHI KUSHIMO SHIMOKU KUMOSHI MOSHIKU SHIKUMO
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I have no idea what the fuck I'm even watching, but I'm enjoying it so far.

Will it make more sense if I watch Utena or Penguin Drum?
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>>120089066
>Will it make more sense if I watch Utena or Penguin Drum?
No, but the style will feel more familiar.
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>>120089066
>Will it make more sense if I watch Utena or Penguin Drum?
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>>120088957
Good answer
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>>120089066
Having seen those would have better prepared you for this.
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>>120089066
No, but you'll be used to things with vague sense.
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>>120088957
I never thought of those as equivalents.
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>>120089066
You would get used to Ikuhara's style, yeah.
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>>120089066
It won't but watch them anyway because they're pretty good anime.
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I liked ep3 a lot, was a huge improvement on ep2 with more emotion, cooler visuals, and more things happening overall.

Looking forward to where this will go.
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>>120087509
Almost there
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>>120089227
They were both sort of the greek chorus of their show, comically commenting on what was happening while still being removed from the characters and actual events. Well, at least until HHH visited Himiwari.
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>>120089066
You probably wouldn't be feeling even slightly disoriented if you had watched Utena and Penguindrum. That is to say that you'd recognize every one of Ikuhara's tricks and not let yourself be unsettled when, for example, Kureha falls through the roof and you're transported to a magic courtroom that approves a transformation scene and softcore symbolistic porn to the sound of a song praising the virgin mary.

It wouldn't necessarily help you understand what any of that means though.
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>>120089445
But Utena constantly interacts with the Shadow Girls.
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>>120089572
To be fair, that only starts in the black rose arc.
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>>120089572
It's still a good 2/3 of the series. That being said, I don't think there's anything quite like them in YKA (yet?).
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>>120089572

Tossing out one-line retorts to their antics can't really be called "interacting".
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>>120089696
Meant to reply to >>120089635
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>>120089715
She still directly interacts with them later on.
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>>120089715
But she knows they exist. And they even invite her (and Akio and Anthy) to their play at the school.
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HURR DURR DURR DURR.
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Stop falling those stairs.
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