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What's /a/ consensus on Medaka Box?
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crap/10
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>>120026946
i concur
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Kumagawa is Protagonist of the Forever.
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Fresh
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Fresh/10
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Shit manga only good for fanservice
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>>120027059
Isn't that for all nishin works really?
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It was pretty bad.
I miss it more than anything.
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it's like HxH in that only 2 arcs are actually good
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>>120026878
I personally prefer Zenkichi Cube
Although I can't deny it's novelty.
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>>120027394
>Likes Zenkichi Cube
>Doesn't like Anshin'in Hypercube

Do you even into 4th Dimensional Suggestion Boxes?
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>>120027505
I was outside of it.
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Only the Minus and Freshmaker arcs were good.
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>>120027694
The standard excuse for the guys who like Zenkichi Cube. Go back to your normal cool show.
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Frankly one of the best series SJ had in years
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>>120026878
>/a/
>consensus
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Kumagawa square was better.
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>>120027835
Fancy words so no one comes after my ass
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>>120027838
Whoa whoa whoa. That show was a 2-Dimensional as its title.

Kumagawa is a terrible main character and you know it.
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>>120027726
>Not liking Zenkichi vs Medaka
>Not liking the tower trials
Flask Plan and Jet Black Wedding were the only bad arcs
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>>120027838
Kumagawa failed to become better than the main characters because his popularity with fans made him the main character
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I miss Kumagawa
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>>120026878
/a/ is tsundere for Medaka Box. They claim to hate it, but in reality, they loved the ride.
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>>120027790
But TLR is super interesting!

>>120027838
Show had the potential but the producers screwed it up
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>>120027254

Unlike the case in HxH, though, they aren't 3/4th of the manga.
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>>120027977
Still mad we didn't get Snow White arc.
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>>120028083
I refuse to believe anyone can think it was super interesting.
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>>120028166
That's typical childish behaviour you are showing there.
I mean, I wouldn't say that as a mature adult I am but someone needs to tell this.
When you will get as mature as me then you will understand the hidden worth of the series that is found only by mature readers such as myself.
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So, after finishing S2 where do i pick up?
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>>120028384
From the start
Or chapter 55
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Why was Zenkichi's mom a loli?
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>>120028384
Just so you know, MU has a feature for this.
The manga's page has a section "Anime Start/End Chapter"
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>>120028384
From the beginning since the anime is shittily made
Or from chapter 56 if you're fine with the worst version
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>>120028485
Because she's Special
Or was she Abnormal
Fuck I don't remember
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>>120028284
Well shit...I can't argue with that logic. Maybe I am missing something because of my immaturity. Maybe I have been missing out because of my recklessness and preconceptions about the series.
Have I really come so far as to just completely deny the series just because I didn't like it?
Have I in my rushed judgement not given the show a fair deal in at least attempting to understand the complexities of the show and making a decision of the show's quality based on how it managed to get across the messages and things it tried to portray?
Maybe I have...
Or maybe you're full of shit and my show is still better than yours. Objectively so, none of this subject human bias shit. Objectively so.
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>>120027012
What was his deal anyway?
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>>120028534

She was an Abnormal and it had nothing to do with her size.
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>>120028600
He's Fresh obviously. He's the kind of guy that likes to be fashionable late to a party and then declare "Hey guys, let's split" and leave fashionably early.
He's the kind of guy who as a testament to his skill has been preserved by the Shiranui who don't do things by halves.
He's always prepared and has supplies on hand like Rubber Bands to make sure that he's never caught empty handed.
He's the hero Medaka Box needed but I will admit, he doesn't really give a fuck about style.
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>>120026878

See, the joke is that OP is referencing both /a/'s very low ability to actually form any consensus and the fact that Medaka Box is wildly polarizing to start a thread based on a doubly unlikely premise.
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>>120026878
My favorite part is that everything was a play on generic battle shounen tropes.
Devil Style best power
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Reminder that Kumagawa is Mogami's father
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>>120026878
Everything up to an including the minus arc was good. Everything after that was stupid meta garbage.
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We talking about John Cena and Friends?
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>>120028600
I read here that he is suppossed to represent the reader, but as hard as I try can`t figure how that's the case, maybe I'm just retarded
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>>120029701
That's not mahouka
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>>120026878
My favorite manga, if you weren't here when it was on-going you missed one of the greatest rides
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>>120029822
Very very simplified.

Anshin'in is the all-powerful Author, Freshmaker is the Reader. Even though Anshin'in has control of the world, Freshmaker can ignore anything the author writes or does because ultimately the fans are in control of whether or not the author's world succeeds. IE We can choose to have it cancelled by not supporting it.

It's why Medaka had to turn her entire body into a style. A speech-based power-up. Because the author can only interact with the reader through the story and the stuff they write down.
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>>120026878
Nisio's worst work, but it still had its moments.
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>>120030228
That just might be retarded enough to be true.
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>>120030228
So what you're saying is:
Nisio wants to be the little girl
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>>120030562
That's not the Monogatari series
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I watched the anime, first two episodes and she beat some delinquents while solving everyone's problems.

Dropped it instantly.
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>>120031004
It's NisiO. If it's retarded then it's probably true. "You can't make swords with magic, magic doesn't exist so you must have seen the future to create these swords"

>>120031062
>Anshin'in
>Little

Also yes, it's a recurring theme in his show that the girls like Anshin'in, Gaen, Hiteihime et al are all the ones who are generally unlikable because they're abrasive but usually end up being right.

NisiO wants to be that girl no-one likes because they're always right/the best and they know they are.
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>>120026878
Decent characters, shitty story
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>>120031107
>using an incomplete adaptation to judge a manga
Top retard
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>>120031474
>replying to Lelouch
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>>120031512
Who?
>2015
>not using the force faggots as anonymous script
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>>120031585
I have them collapsed.
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>>120031585
Mah nigga
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>>120031309
>decent characters
>posts the one character who contributes nothing other than a cute triangle mouth.
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he is perfection
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>>120030228
>Re-reading Medaka Box
>Get to the Fresh Arc
>Read this
NisiOisiN you son of a bitch.
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>>120026878
It's utter shit. I hate medaka and her guts, I hate zen and his gayness, I hate the story itself (Came in for a comedy taking care of crazy requests that got way out of hand, got shit instead) and I hate that people actually like it.
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>>120031474
Well if the anime doesn't interest me why would the manga? Incorrect adaptation or not.

It's just some Mary Sue being Miss perfect while doing Miss perfect things.
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>>120033169
>I watched two episodes and she's a mary sue being miss perfect
>what is character development
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>>120033169
Because you haven't seen Kumagawa yet. Watch the very last episode of the second season and you'll see what I mean. The arc that comes literally right after the anime ends is by far the best in the series and Kumagawa single handedly saves it.
Also Medaka isn't that bad, you'll kinda like her by the end. But you'll LOVE Zenkichi.
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>>120033265

But she never develops.
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>>120033351
Her character gets destroyed in the Election arc, good thing you didn't actually read it
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>>120033112
NisiO doesn't fuck around with his meta. Hitei actively shit-talks the audience about her past, Ougi mugs for the camera during Hana, Senjougahara and Oshino with their "My voice actor is great" "Smoking in the animation" comments.

NisiO loves his meta more than he loves girls getting hair cuts.
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>>120033330
This must be opposite day
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>>120033440

Dude she is the end all be all. She has the answer to everything she always wins. She is the very definition of a may sue.
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I miss the Medaka Box chapter discussion threads on /a/. Shit was amazing.
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>>120033552
Fresh
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>>120033552
Not really. Not everybody likes her. And she has actual flaws, in that she's inhuman. That's the whole deal with the music part.
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>>120033618
Look at that, two mary sues, it never stops does it? Back to tokyo ghoul
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>>120033664
>>Being a mary sue is in itself a flaw so the mary sue isn't a mary sue

And people are actually eating this manga up.
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>>120033664

Are you kidding me? She has no flaws because she adapts and improves herself each time she is faced with a problem. She overcomes everything. She is the perfect human being. And everyone either loves her or respects her.
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I need more kumagawa in my life
dammit nisio
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>>120026878
Very cynical and at times vitriol satire on the shounen manga industry. It could've been a Ricki Gervais experience except Nisio wasnt funny
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>>120033796
Yeah, her flaw was mostly that because she was so superior to everyone, she was basically incapable of being equal with someone.
For example, when they all played music, Zenkichi could support others and make their music sound better than it otherwise could, while Medaka could play her music perfectly, but no one could really enjoy it that much.
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>>120034383
See

>>120033778
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>>120034383
>>She can't play music others enjoy

That's it?
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>>120033796
But they love and respect Hitoyoshi more because he isn't a Mary Sue.

No, really, that's why.
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>>120034756

What he's trying to say is that she is so perfect she is alone in a land of imperfection. Which does not sound like a real problem at all.

>>120034877

I respect him for that same reason. Medaka can literally do no wrong and that's weak.
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>>120035034
Again see

>>120033778
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>>120034756
Not that anon but the music thing is obviously a side effect of being unable to be human. She can't connect with people in any significant manner and her inability to suck leaves her isolated from other people.

Normal people can join groups and establish relationships with people, in their weakness they're able to cling together and not be alone.

Even with all these people around Medaka, no-one actually understands her and no matter what positive actions she takes to try and help people, she's unable to overcome this loneliness.

There's no one there to actually feel empathy for such a perfect being and that in itself is causing an issue.

People are putting too much emphasis on the fact "The End" allows her to do everything and then just stop there and think "She's a Mary Sue" without realizing that Medaka is written how a Mary Sue would actually end up being if you were perfect at everything. Alone against her will.
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>>120035088
>>120035125

Are you insinuating being perfect is a flaw? I'm pretty sure anyone would swap places with her. In fact that's such a first world problem it's actually disgusting to think she actually has it bad.
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>>120035125
Or you got too into Nisio's pseudo logic. I'd say that's it. Don't worry you're not alone.
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>>120035034
So what you're saying is that you actually do understand that Medaka's character exists in part to criticize the Mary Sue MC, and you're just shitposting?
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I still like to daydream about a non-dead studio picking it up for one more season.
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ITT: Medaka box is literally too deep for /a/
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>>120026878
Great tits on a shit character. Was literally watching it in the hopes of seeing Medaka's ruin.

And the guy reminded me of the MC in Tokyo Raven.
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>>120035125
I think some of that is what Nisio intended, but he did a very, very bad job of portraying it. In the end, the guy has too much of a hard-on for "perfect girls" and he was just writing what he liked.
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Rated exactly where it should be by /a/. It had it's incredible high points but was a disappointment overall.

Threadly Medaka Box thread reminder that half of class minus 13 committed sudoku, ajimu never resurrected, and kumagawa disappeared forever in the end.
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>>120035346
Me too. I got into the manga because I really liked the anime and it turns out most of the best moments are from the third arc on.
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>>120035340

I never thought of that.
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>>120035465
>Rated exactly where it should be by /a/. It had it's incredible high points but was a disappointment overall.
This. When it was good, it was very good. When it was shit, it was very shit.
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>>120035280
Not that being perfect in an inherent flaw but that being perfect has its own flaws that we ignore.

The grass is greener is a pretty good way to explain it.

We're flawed beings so we just see Medaka and think. "Down boner, now is not the time" and then "Her life is amazing, she's rich and can literally do anything"
While from her perspective its "I would give up my powers in a heartbeat if I could be like them."

It's why she's so happy at the end to only have that animal-based skill once she loses the end. She can finally be around animals.

>>120035327
Imagine if you were rich and everyone knew you were rich. Undoubtedly people would be nicer to you because you had money, right? It's that except replace money with powers.
You could never really be sure if people are your friends because of your personality or your money.

>>120035463
Yeah but you can't blame a guy for writing what he wants. It's sorta why we read him. Because we want wordplay/banter/lolis/overpowered hilarity etc.
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>>120035785
>Yeah but you can't blame a guy for writing what he wants.
Sure. I just think it's misguided to try to dress it up as him trying to write something critical or deep, when it's mostly just his fap fuel. Breaking down and portraying Medaka into the kind of character you describe would have been really interesting writing, but it's not what Nisio did.
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>>120035785

That's such a bullshit move. I'm pretty sure any one living in Africa or any other 3rd world country would take on "such a heavy burden" on themselves.
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>>120035921

If telling people "at least you're not an unemployed third world dirt-eater, so suck it up" actually made them stop moping and feel better, the world probably be a lot better place

Unfortunately human psychology totally fails to work like that
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>>120035422
>literally too deep
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Medaka Box is an incredibly shallow series. Other than some interesting character interactions it was a sloppy, generic work.

I still loved those character interactions though. Ajimu and Nabeshima were awesome.
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>>120035891
>but it's not what Nisio did
So it's an accident that Medaka Box does exactly that? Impressive.

>>120035921
Just like they'd gladly take the chance to be you arguing about Medaka Box. Well, guess it's time to get off the internet, since starving children in Africa can't use it.
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>>120035891
Oh no, I think he tried. Lord I think he tried but he's still an Otaku without a doubt so I'm not expecting a world-changing revolutionary piece.

By the same token, I won't deny his effort and the fact he sorta hit the mark just because it's Otaku-ish. He did try and his intent did get across. It's not the first time he's written a character like Medaka so it's not the first time he's tried either.

>>120035921
Fucking everyone would. Imagine being able to be Medaka good, that would be fucking amazing!

However, grass is greener and people cannot accurately judge their own positions. So while Medaka IS living the good life. To her, her problems have gotten to the point where she'd rather be a normal person.

It's a normal human trait to think things are worse than they actually are. It's because it's happening to you personally and it's your burden which is something you want to get rid of.

Also using Africa/3rd world country is a poor comparison, they'd kill just to be second world.
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>>120026878
>What's /a/ consensus on Medaka Box?
Shit.
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>>120036080
>If telling people "at least you're not an unemployed third world dirt-eater, so suck it up" actually made them stop moping and feel better, the world probably be a lot better place

I agree. The world would be a lot better if we only cared about the five or ten absolute worst problems at any given time and just sucked it up and endured the rest.
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>>120036237
Wrong, the consensus was that it was good to great, and that we'd shitpost about it being bad every now and then so that newfags don't realize how amazing it is.
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Kumagawa is love, Kumagawa is life.
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>>120036775
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Only gets good past the flashplan arc
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>>120037124
Best gag character
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>>120036228
>Oh no, I think he tried. Lord I think he tried but he's still an Otaku without a doubt so I'm not expecting a world-changing revolutionary piece.
Alright, this I can agree on.
He certainly do more with her character than with Aikawa or 7mi, though because of her central position in the story, Medaka ended up being a lot less fun than either of her prototypes.
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>>120037247
did more**
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Enough about Nisio, I want to read whatever Riro has lined up next.
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>>120037247
Yeah I don't particularly like Medaka either. Freshmaker was fine because he was fucking hilarious and didn't have any baggage attached to his character but Medaka should have been renamed Meh-daka.
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not a single female character I wouldn't bone, who ever did the art is a genius
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/a/ I think I'm missing one of these. I have this and the one with the pink background, but I remember there being a third.
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anyone have a link to the freshmaker youtube video
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>>120037832
>Not posting the actual official Handbra Jeans.
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>>120037989
>posting the horribly oversaturated version
>not posting the calendar

And that Anshin'in is official, Ganaix drew her right after the show ended.
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>>120038060
>Gainax
>implying anything could be better than the Akira Akatsuki drawing.

While your picture is indeed of better quality. Your request is still shit and you should feel bad for asking for it.
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>>120038161
I will not. Anime Ajimu is perfect and you're retarded to pretend otherwise.
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>>120038220
Manga Anshin'in is the superior version and thinking the anime version is better is blasphemy.

It is a mere fake and this isn't Fate/Stay Night, the fake cannot surpass the original.
This also isn't Monogatari because they are not objects of equal value, the original is the superior.
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>>120026878
haremschoolsettingbattlemangashit
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I really liked the manga, but the anime was awful. It could have been great.
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>>120038578
Epic buzzwords
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>>120038602
Original episodes were decent. It couldn't really have been great without somehow skipping over the early arcs.
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>>120026878
No other manga has given me a ride as wild and fresh as Medaka Box. It will forever remain as one of my favorite series.
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