About 7 hours to witness this week's deconstruction of the harem genre
First episode for first volume soon. Will you be ready for the best girl?
Are you trying to attract trolls?
By best, I hope you mean Eri.
This show is one cour, isn't it? I can't see the anime covering up to the latest volume unless there's serious adaptation compression. I want to see the Christmas scene between Eri and Tomo, but it probably won't happen.
I've seen 1 volume per 2 episodes adaptation before, so anything is possible. There is no good stopping point except for the ending part in volume 7 (as you know from spoilers). It's wiser to have the anime end on that kind of note than to have an anime original final episode.
Of course I meant her.
It shouldn't for many obvious reasons, but it will because this is the kind of place we are in.
Really though, probably the most obvious one is the MC's own thoughts which does not fault Eriri and Utaha's decision. The other one being both girls still love the MC, but simply wish to follow their own dream.
The story would feel incomplete if the game everyone worked on didn't get released, huh. The anime would have to adapt that far then. Perfect for me, I get to see the Christmas arc.
>he picks the normal boring girl to be the heroine
doesnt the game get finished and release in vol 6?
I dont think anyone would fault the girls for their reasons but rather how they purposely when for the most damaging route, for "lol motivation". Also I dont get how Utaha being in any circle would affect her dream since she so successful she can chose what she want to do in the business.
Also I wish MC had some resentment towards the girls for purpose of more drama and a tad bit of realism like "I understand but I still dont like it" kinda thing.
it would funny as hell if Tomo start dating Megumi and that make Eriri unable to focus on her art.
What I am more looking forward to is Eriri's lack of interaction with Tomo cause now they are rival circle. She cant just join any conversation cause it would be giving idea to the other team. Trust me there bound to be the "make very similar (blank) of game" situation, where Tomo's team being the small group will have to redo everything and Megumi will slam Eriri for possibly leaking the idea to Akane's group. Possibly Utaha will shit on Tomo for bullying Eriri for being the horrible bitch that she is
Looks like he cut her hair to her initial appearance
>that Eri shot with the flying slippers
>MC will never tap any of these 10/10 bodies
makes me rage
Hopefully she's going to get an episode only for herself.
>Still liking old-busted generic archetype
I used to like them, then it got so annoyingly overused in every single damn thing ever. Name 1 harem series without tsundere, if you can!
Background-character-archetype is the new hotness.
>It's popular and everywhere, so it's shit
>It's less popular and not everywhere, so it's good
You sound like a god damn hipster. Your childish and shitposter behavior makes me want to agree with the other anon even more just for the heck of it.
Izumi is true best girl.
Izumi > Eriri > Utaha > Megumi
Get load of this newfag
Tsundere is good if done right. There is no reason to insult other archetype in harem. Tsundere is just a typical shojo troupe that's nothing wrong liking tsundere. Tsundere its a normalfag troupe.
I have been watching anime since the late 90's. I don't keep record, but I'm pretty sure I'm hovering over 900 watched series. That aside, this is anime. If you haven't gotten used to or crave plots, characters, and staple elements that have become "generic" by now, then I think you're the new one.
Your mind has been poisoned by trolls and haters who talks out of their asses. Tsundere come in various types, there's no such thing as done right or wrong. Writing is what matters the post, so it comes down to being cute or likable when it concerns tsundere.
>typical shojo troupe
You're contradicting yourself, but wrong anyways since tsundere that we speak can only be realized in 2D that have been ever progressing for otaku catering.
Just perfection, How come A1 can only adapt shows with decent harem girls.
off course is about writing. The story is written not live documentary.
im not contradicting its just you failed to grasped it. If you watched lot enough anime you would encountered how bad they create the character and become weird enough to watch
>Exposing your anime age
>Forcing people to like old-busted tropes
>My fault if my point didn't get across your head
Its like I'm in MAL right now. Ah yeah, you're allowed to hate Megumi just because we shits on Eriri. That way I'll have more tears to drink later.
Harem wasn't that rare before 00's. The ratio between harem or rom-com that have harem elements is only mildly less than it is today because of the amount of anime (a lot less per season) made before the bloom happened.
Besides, no one was talking about harem exclusively. Tsundere is even in non-harem series. Most shoujo isn't harem, but it's not like tsundere was meant for shoujo anyways when it's a male thing.
thing is those I dont see how the writer has the balls to antagonize Tomo and Eriri relationshi i.e not talking to each other or a general wall formed between them. This from the fact I havent read much LN where a MC will dislike a main girl of whatever reason, it normally just more self-hate if anything
She has that Silver feeling from Oreshura that superiority aura and she can back it up with her wide range of knowledge which just makes her delicious.
MC seems pretty cool not TOO beta and isn't ashamed of his anime loving self which is nice to see.
Of course I am. Otherwise I won't be here discussing kid's Chinese cartoons with you.
Since it is about the writing, you can't write off one type from the other.
You have opposing thoughts. You can't say it belongs to both shoujo and normalfags. It really belongs to neither. As anons said, it has been created for the purpose of male otaku created fantasy.
>Get questioned and gave an answered to refute
>This is somehow bad
It is bad if one doesn't appreciate classic things or at least come to tolerate it by now if one isn't relatively new to anime. When your reasons comes off like a hipster, you're gonna get burned around here.
Deal with it.
I don't even hate Megumi. But the way you act might make me reconsider.
Yeah I know, they still aren't terribly uncommon though. She's basically straight Ice Hime Ojou-Sama archetype. You know that character that's always kind of aloof, rich, cool, beautiful, the student council president who gets the best test scores and athletic performances and is untouchable and knows it and as a result has this aura and presence around them and kind of subtlely hams it up. It's a pretty common trope, especially in LN/VN stuff of late.
MC has good taste.
How about you appreciate people who got tired of the same shit since forever? So that you might not appear as a MAL hypocrite.
I hate this kind of anime. It's like... every MC lives in a world of only women, with minimal male other presence.
When I had my harem in college, I had a best friend, he had a few romances here and there, now I have a few romances here and there and he has a harem, but during both parts, a lot of my life is defined by our interactions rather than whatever stuff is going on in terms of love/women/sex.
I wish a harem series would be less girl-focused, and have them in the background, because honestly, if you have a harem, it's all girls in the background, they aren't at the forefront of your life.
Aniplex kind of relies on it and I would say the odds are good but that's just my opinion. The shows angle is pretty lame and rather blatant to the point of being insulting but hey I guess if you're gonna generic harem in this day and age you've gotta try something. I'd just think with all that money and access to supposedly super talented writers from the eroge/LN industry that Aniplex has now (I assume they have Nasu, Isin, Urobuchi, Maeda and now Muruto on speed dial) that they'd be able to come up with something a little less obvious, blunt and kind of phoned in as an alternative angle.
I mean they could always trying writing actually half decent characters. Maruto did it well enough by genre standards before with White Album 2, but nope I guess. Not even for noitaminA
Everything is generic. Girls designed for otaku are especially based on past models or variants. So what is the point in complaining about generic in the first place? Anyone doing so is merely nitpicking.
>Implying harems are realistic
>Implying you are surrounded by women because you seem to disagree with him
>Implying you can even go near women without spilling your spaghetti
>Dat perfect ZR
are you really tell me to re-read SAO
I already read vol 1-7 I am not going back. I know Progressive fleshes SAO arc by a lot but unless villains arent written like retards I dont see why I should go back
>Rich and is a daughter of a diplomat
Immunity to crimes.Doujins where?
>blond twintail bitch starts slapping the MC by flinging her twintails at him
The one told me last week that the show was going to be different from episode 00 was full of shit.
RIP in pepperoni noitaminA.
Episode 0 felt like it was laughing at me for expecting anything good out of an harem.
Pretty sure if anyone watches it with the thought of it being a deconstruction, even the cheesiest of cliches would seem like commentaries. I can see this happening and I can also see a tonne of people defending it and calling it great, kinda like what they did with Zankyou no Terror.
Lewd as fuck.
Progressive is character driven. Aside from fleshing out characters, it's meant to cover many of the boss floor clearings. There are bad guys here and there, but they're not the main focus. Argo is in progressive and she's worth it.
TFW someone shatters your fragile fantasy.
I don't even browse /v/. Look, I enjoy a good harem anime as much as the next guy, but you'd have to be delusional to think it's a realistic depiction of a male's life.
These threads are so bad. I thought maybe the threads will get better when the anime begins proper since the "first" episode was just fanservice, but it looks like I was wrong.
I don't know how you guys can stand it. Do you guys have a bigger threshold of stupidity and crazy than I do?
>pigtails instead of twintails
I don't get it either. When did ironically generic eroge/VN/LN stuff just suddenly become the gold standard for anime internationally and the big publishers (okay mainly just Aniplex) seemingly decided that whoever is sort of kind of popular in that industry immediately needed to be summoned to make supposedly noitaminA or in blockbuster style anime and given higher budgets and bigger teams of animators to work with than 90% of other shows are allotted. I feel like it started with stuff like Monogatari where admittedly the approach it took was at sort of fresh back in 2009 and at first but since then it's like Aniplex in particular has been copying this talky smug characters being smug about their own tropey harem archtype's approach and there's this idea that as long as these shows carry themselves with the utmost confidence and "witty dialogue" with regard to the idea that what they are doing is A grade quality entertainment that is totally meaningful and introspective about itself and not just lampshading it's own generic ecchi romcomness that that suddenly makes it the case and makes it a great show via deconstruction.
Thank god I'm not the only one sort of asking these questions and wondering kind of what the fuck? Like do people really like this status quo and want things to continue like this where shows like Saenai Kanojo no Sodatekata are considered "smart" shows if not top tier offerings.
2D girls are white.
Many people on the board are newer to anime than others. They don't see what we see. It's just a matter of time though.
Why are the threads for this show so cancerous? White Album 2 had nowhere near this amount of shitposting when it aired.
>people spend all of last speak spamming how Saekano is a deconstruction of harem
>nobody realized what the hell an episode 00 is
>now it turns out that the show is generic as shit
Yeah. That's precisely why people eat popular things, and /a/, being the entitled elitists they are, want to go against it by hating those, but they still eat that shit anyway because there's nothing else. And besides, would you find another site like this after you visit? Certainly not. You stay.
I disagree. The scene where he tried to convince twintail looked really good, particular in the movement of the MC at some parts. It's definitely noticeable but that's because it's good
Amagi is right there.
It just looks like A-1 is trying to emulate SHAFT at this point albeit with a bit more filters added. Aniplex shows in general for a while feel like they've been leaning on whatever studio they've contracted or own to emulate the SHAFT style.
3DCGI legs? As a legs/pantyhose kind of person this makes me kind of sad to see. In any case I'm starting to understand more and more how A-1 is able to keep pumping out all this stuff of late.
That particular shot in general just feels like the kind of thing Shaft/Shinbo would go with. Other than that though just the bantery nature of it and vague sense of smug inflated self worth in how it's all laid out, directed and acted. It's not super Shaft like or anything but I'm getting those vibes.
The 2nd one isn't mine.
I'm still working out the kinks using the webm converter. How's this?
>pushing small number of frames on 1s.
Is it too much of a fucking work for the inbetweening departement? holy shit A1.
It's not, they're just using different approach to color the legs.
How do you write a female harem character? Is there no reason to ever go outside the norm? Do you put in all the tropes because that is what the people like?
I am genuinely interested, it doesn't feel like you should have to deviate from the standard but it doesn't feel like the standard does anything for the genre in general. It is a safe approach though
How would you add a fresh new take on the harem genre /a/?
I mean, humans themselves aren't really unique. Chances are there are thousands of people just like you with similar personalities. You might have a few things that make you a bit different than the rest, but you're not a unique individual
So expecting entirely unique characters is retarded. The best they can do is make the character feel like an actual human. If she also happens to have a bunch of common tropes, who really gives a shit unless it's not overdone
By not pretending that every girl has a chance when it's extremely obvious to the viewers that the main heroine is the only clear winner.
Okay, maybe that's not "a fresh new take," but it's still kind of an annoying aspect.
Looks pretty good to me.
>Do you put in all the tropes because that is what the people like?
Basically this. The audience is shit so you have to pander to them to succeed. Happens in any medium.
>How would you add a fresh new take on the harem genre /a/?
Xmas cake harem.
Or an harem were the story start after the MC got harem end
Or an harem from the perspective of an obvious losing girl like Utaha (;_;)
Of course none of these would sell because otaku cancer wouldn't handle it.
Yeah that looks pretty good. In my opinion the point to webms is to keep quality as high as possible within the size limit, rather than trying to minimize the size.
I made webms directly through ffmpeg so this might be a bit different but I remember keeping bitrate at 2000k and changing the crf value for the issues with file size.
It's not horrible, just really average generic and kind of uninspired like most first episode A-1 stuff. Easy enough on the eyes without doing anything particularly interesting.
Perhaps it's just coincidence, but in the director's other harem work, OreShura, there were scenes when silver and yellow
interacted with each other in ways that were often critical to each other's behavior. Even if their faults were on the side
of being extremely stereotype and focused on how they interact with the male protagonist, the fact that the characters
exist outside of the male vision is something noteworthy.
Sort of like the first arc in Monogatari SS. This episode had it too.