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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-30698640

Gotta protect those drawings.
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>>119440730
Ah, I was waiting for this thread.
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>>119440730
This is the 5xxx time today we've had a thread about this.
Even shitposting has its limits.
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tl;dr

Is it trying to portray all manga as loli/CP that should be banned?
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Stop making these threads, you retard. We already got it out of our systems with the first one. The british are stupid and have no common sense. The japanese aren't and do. There's no problem other than lolicon and otaku being brushed under the rug for the Olympics.
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So have they convicted all the actual pedophile priests yet?
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>>119441372
This and check em
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I hate moralist scum
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Stop making these fucking threads, but I'm glad that I actually read it. That one woman was saying that junior idol DVDs are fucked up, and she hopes that they'll be gone by the olympics. That's fine, people made it sound like she was against lolicon.

long story short, real kids are gross and i don't want to see or hear anything about them
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>>119440730
>"As long as it doesn't infringe upon people's human rights, what's wrong with having a fantasy life?"
Nuff said. Now stop making these threads.
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>Among the manga shops of Akihabara, child protection campaigner Kazuna Kanajiri takes me to see something she thinks is a much bigger problem than cartoons and comics

See, there's no issue. They just want actual CP banned, I'm fine with that. Just leave my fucking manga alone.
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>>119441679
This
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>>119440730
>Posters of elfin-faced, doe-eyed cartoon heroines, many of them scantily clad and impossibly proportioned, turn the cavernous space into a riot of colour.
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>>119441679
Shouldn't make what they thought was clickbait then or people won't give a fuck.
More than half that fucking article was irrelevant. You have to be about 3/4 of the way through to find out they're actually talking about real cp.
Also
>But she tells me she hasn't given up hope of a ban on manga and anime.
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>>119441679

People should be able to draw and fantasize about whatever they want, but the junior idol shit, etc, makes me wonder if people really know where to draw the line. /a/nons make a clear distinction between 2D and 3D, but the majority of anime industry consumers would probably still veer towards 3D, if given a choice. If lolicon becomes a slipper slope to turn the attitudes of, say, six out of ten, more favorable towards genuine cp, can its protection still be morally justified?
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>>119440730
>"I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says.
>I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby".
>"She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other."
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>>119442309
What's wrong with CP? Besides my inherent disgust towards all forms of 3DPD porn I see nothing inherently wrong with it.
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>>119442309
>the majority of anime industry consumers would probably still veer towards 3D

Obviously not, if they aren't already buying junior idol stuff. I say the second it involves a real person it shouldn't be allowed. Drawings aren't an issue, and telling people they can't write or draw certain things is literal thoughtcrime. When people start saying shit like "hurr durr but having loli manga makes people more inclined to rape kids!", the argument is lost. Just fucking existing means that something might influence me to do something bad, I could be influenced by a fucking diaper commercial to kidnap a kid. People want to put bubblewrap on everything, but they don't realize that some unpleasantness is just a fact of life, and it's unavoidable. I personally don't read a lot of loli stuff, but it's fucked up that people are acting like drawings are morally wrong. Why not just fucking castrate everyone and put them in reeducation camps? That'll solve the problem.

>>119442398
It's my understanding that the huge issue with it is the abuse aspect, not necessarily seeing a naked kid. Almost all CP made is done so in a shady fucking way. It's better to just not even argue for real CP because it makes lolicon supporters look bad, let them make a big fuss over 3DPD and let us have our harmless escapism.
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>>119442398

It's exploitation of children because children can't give consent.
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>>119442388
>Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other
Reporter status = BTFO
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>>119442398
Acceptance of CP promotes the exploitation of children which is you know, bad.
It's also detrimental to child growth.
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>While some of the content in manga and anime featuring minors in sexual situations might be shocking and attention-grabbing, Kanajiri and other campaigners I spoke to told me that for now, they are focused on more important battles to protect real children.
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>>119442518
>featuring minors

No, not minors. Drawings. What the fuck are normalfags thinking?
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>>119442540
>What the fuck are normalfags thinking?
They're not
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On the fucking BBC of all things.
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>>119442540
>>119442560
You know, for people claiming to be the voice of reason, they really can't tell the difference between fiction and reality too well, can they? There's literally no issue until they make it into one.

>featuring MINORS
>oh and by the way they're more focused on stopping real CP
>but they still have comics featuring MINORS
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>>119442518

>for now

Fuck them, later.
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>>119442540
>normalfags thinking?
>normalfags
>thinking

Anon, that's why they're normalfags.
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>>119442468
>telling people they can't write or draw certain things is literal thoughtcrime

But writing and drawing are both real-world actions, with real-world consequences, that certainly affect people, or do you mean to invalidate 90% of the creative industry?
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>>119442398
well, other than ruining thier life? It's really fucking bad on psychological and even physicol

while i don't like loli or shota, they are only drawings for fuck

even thinking there are people justyfing CP is disgusting.
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> But is the boundary between fantasy and reality always clear?

Seriously? In manga and anime? Why would you even ask this?
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>>119442675
Please take your non existent command of language and grammar and go back to tumblr.
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Do people think making these articles is going to change anything? What's the purpose?
Irrational older people in Western countries on the internet who will see this and forget about it in 10 minutes can't and won't change what goes on in Japan, that's their business alone.
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>>119442637
They might affect people passively but not directly.
If a person is affected by fictional ideas made from a show, writing, or drawing, to the point that they would directly interact and hurt real people, then they should not be allowed near other humans.
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I don't give a fuck about CP because I don't give a fuck about people in general. 3D is worthless. I reject this world and all the faggots and idiots who come with it. The only world I need now is /a/.

But I say actual pedofags need to be cannibalized by lolicons to force a separation of the 2.
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>>119442487
That was probably her sucker punch as well and he just brushed it off.
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I agree with banning the loli porn.

Just as long as they don't go trying to normalize anime and manga after they get their way.
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That line about the 2020 Olympics really scare me.
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>>119442836
Praise otaku. They forever control anime.
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>>119442637

But unless there is some actual evidence that child exploitation is a real-world consequence of writing, drawing, or reading loli/shota, what is the point of banning it?
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>>119442637
I don't really understand what point you're trying to make, but my point is that making something illegal doesn't remove the issue. Telling someone it's illegal to read manga for adults is just stupid. We should be focusing more on stopping mentally fucked people who reenact what they see or read in fiction.

>>119442789
I doubt they think it's going to change anything, it's just clickbait, and from what I've seen in the news recently, the UK's government has a big child rape scandal going on.

>>119442836
>Just as long as they don't go trying to normalize anime and manga
You do realize loli shit is anime and manga, right? Why would you be in support of banning drawings?

>>119442852
After reading it, I feel more at ease. I'm perfectly fine with them wanting to remove actual CP before the olympics.
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>>119442711
sorry, it's pretty late for me and I'm very tired. let me rephrase

CP is fucking disgusting, because it has terrible repercussion on children health, both physical than psycological.

But, while I personally don't enjoy it, loli is totally accepattle because IT'S NOT REAL, just a DRAWING.
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Even if it gets illegal, it'd be so easy to bullshit your way out of it by saying that the little girls being fucked are actually 18. Actually, they're already doing that.
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Can we just blast Britain from this planet already? They've been getting unbearable lately.

>>119442599
The BBC is beyond saving now, it's literally filled with sjw garbage.
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>>119442836
What is this called, a paradox, an oxymoron.
There's a word for this, close enough
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>The absolute state of every single season for Anime in 2020 .

5 years remain, /a/
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>>119442637
Like I said, I could be influenced by literally anything. If you want to play the prevention game, every single human being is a potential time bomb.

>>119442912
Correct. Loli isn't even an age, anyway. It's a body-type.
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>being surprised when the brits advocate censorship and punishment of thoughtcrimes
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>>119442950
>Loli isn't even an age, anyway. It's a body-type.
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>>119442948

NatsuComi 2020 is already cancelled.
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>>119442892
He's just making fun of your diction.
It's very tumblr like to capitalize emotions too much.
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>>119442926

Naivete.

>thinking they'll stop.
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>>119442948
I guess I'll finally have to go before it all tumbles down.

>>119442985
You know what I mean, I'm not masturbating to it because "THEY EXPLICITLY STATE SHE'S ELEVEN HOLY SHIT SO HOT"

I just think they're cute. I honestly prefer cowtits and tomboys.
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>>119442388
This honestly makes me wonder why everyone is flipping their shit over lolicon and not shotacon
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>>119442888
>After reading it, I feel more at ease. I'm perfectly fine with them wanting to remove actual CP before the olympics.

Same here, but do you really think the Japanese government is gonna stop there? They've been trying to get loli banned for ages now.
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As a Brit, since it's been illegal here for some time now, I've been avoiding the loli porn.

This is why I report the loli threads on /a/ because I don't want to go to jail. Plus those threads are filled to the with fucking [email protected] ass paedophiles anyway.
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>>119443058

Male privilege means boys can't abused, of course. Especially not by women.
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>BBC complaining about paedophilia
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>>119443063

I hope they do. It would help the reputation of a certain thing we love around here.
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>>119442836
Fuck You. "Hurr durr only ban the things I don't like!" I hope they ban your fucking Naruto someday also faggot.
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>>119442985
Because Shinobu is not a loli right?
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>>119441627
This
Its getting towards thought crime level bullshit now and i bet its only gonna get worse.
> possesses anything loli - arrested for pedophilia
>possesses anything violent video game - arrested for violent intentions and the will to do harm
>looking at a woman without her consent- arrested for rape
>not giving your job to an immigrant - arrested for racism
I wouldn't be surprised if the UK turned out like this in 50 years
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>In their adult sections, restricted to people over 18, it's not hard to find manga with titles like Junior Rape or Japanese Pre-teen Suite.
>Japanese Pre-teen Suite

L-looks like someone actually did their research.
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>>119443117
no shinobu is a shit
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>>119443117
Yes. She's an old hag.
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>>119442799
>If a person is affected by fictional ideas made from a show, writing, or drawing, to the point that they would directly interact and hurt real people, then they should not be allowed near other humans.

I agree, but as a rule that goes in the non-existent perfect world, and no one can supervise or control such things in reality.

>>119442888
>but my point is that making something illegal doesn't remove the issue

I don't know about that. I've been on /a/ for a long time, and over these years, I've noted a drastic change in my personal values. Things that I used to find absolutely unacceptable now hardly make me raise a brow. I've become completely indifferent to it. I'd argue the same is true for every long-term user of the board.
The indisputable fact is, if I never came to /a/ and became exposed to this material, it wouldn't have happened.

Of course, I still don't feel like committing crime. No, maybe I actually do. And I'm nowhere near as fucked up as you people are!
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>>119443063
>thinking it'll ever happen
They only recently removed a ban on dancing in nightclubs.

>>119443070
Wow, fucking shoot yourself.

>I try and get threads deleted because I live in a shithole

I wish the british would just suicide-nuke themselves. The last noteworthy thing they did was getting raped by the US.
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>>119443130
get with the times gramps
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>>119443114
Stop being immature, pedo. I like tall girls and that won't happen.
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God its going to be worse come Olympics time.
I hate this world
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>>119440730
I agree with them banning the loliXshota shit though since it is harmful to children
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>>119443155
>if I never came to /a/ and became exposed to this material, it wouldn't have happened
>If I never got alternate points of view on certain subjects I'd be a normalfag

Sounds about right. My point is that things like drugs are illegal, and they're still all over the fucking place. There's literally nothing wrong with loli manga.
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>>119443155
/a/ has desensitized me to basically everything. The only shit I can't stand no matter what is NTRshit, guroshit or scat. Otherwise, I don't give a fuck and can't be offended by anything except accusations of being a yurifaggot simply for liking yuri.
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>>119440730
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>>119443175
I am actually pushing a campaing to remove anything that sexualizes females on the net and with the recent support Intel has given us its only a matter of time
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It's already happening, /a/. The death of anime.
Soon, companies like Disney wouldn't be happy with just Ghibli. They'll gobble up studios like KyoAni, opening the door to even more western influence.

Anti-loli sentiment is already building up in Japan. Then, they'll become vocal, building up mass appeal, and then, Abe would be forced to pass a bill banning loli from Japan.

Sadpanda is dying, thanks to you know who. It will never stop.
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>>119443170
Its actually sickening some of the stuff people come out with today. Sometimes i have very little hope for the countries future.
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>>119443175
it's basically the only argument you are putting up
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>>119443208
No it is not, you fucking faggot.
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>>119443208
>japan has comics with lolixshota
>marriage age is sixteen
>still have less teenage pregnancies than america
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>BBC
>Trying to shut down loli on the other side of the planet
>Try to cover up actual pedophiles in their own country
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>>119443264
It is though
loli doesnt need a shota to teach him how to have sex
faceless bald men should do that
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>>119443217
>My point is that things like drugs are illegal, and they're still all over the fucking place.

I don't know where you live, and I don't want to know either, but drugs really aren't all over the place. But they sure would be, if they were allowed to be distributed without any kind of limit.
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>>119443155
>and no one can supervise or control such things in reality.
You should not make fiction illegal basing it on an assumption that a person might imitate doing harm to others.
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>>119443235
This teacher is sexually propositioning her student ON LIVE TELEVISION. Why isn't the D.A. prosecuting this vile criminal?
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>"I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says.

>I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby".

>"She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other."
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>>119443159
I don't like that /a/'s becoming a breeding ground for proper paedophiles.

Those thread belong on /b/ anyway. And when mods actually tried to push this back in late 2011, you guys spammed the board with child porn.

If you go to /b/, there's always a loli thread up for you guys. Why not just move and let us talk about anime and manga and not talking about your fantasies about fucking a little girl in the ass in peace?
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>Westerners legalizing drugs even though they have proven negative side effects
>Bans cartoon images of little girls
Westerners are stupid
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>>119443235
>>119443235
This is a really stupid image.

>whoah. are you watching a snuff film?
>no sir this is just called a horror movie
>but those kids are getting killed
>yeah but it's just a fake story about kids getting killed

>>119443303
Do you live in America? There are drugs everywhere in almost every western country.

>>119443334
Fuck off, you brainwashed retard. We talk about loli manga, we don't have explicit imagedumps.
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>>119443275
They need pregnancies in general more than ever. Their population is on a constant decline and birth rates get lower and lower witch each year. Japs aren't having kids anymore and the old people just wont die, so its messing up their economy.
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I suddenly remember that other article a few months ago where the reporter had to bring a hidden camera into a store in Akiba and kept acting as if it was some sort of dark and dangerous place. Then he saw a manga done by the Corpse Party guy and just said 'Oh god..." and it wasn't even lolicon porn.

Absolutely hilarious and depressing at the same time. My father is probably rolling in his grave right now. Journalism at its finest.
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>>119443319
because its never getting another season
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>>119443235
the figure pointing at the computer simply sees a potential illegal action without questioning it.
"are any real people being harmed?" He's not thinking that.
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>>119443356
Different westerners.
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>>119443363
Most of the threads are imagedumps and IRL paedo talk.

There have even been campaigns in the threads to try and push anons into supporting child love.
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>>119443363
I think rape and killing are perceived very differently anon.
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>>119443356
Don't compare the US to the UK, it's like comparing the US to North Korea.

>>119443421
Nope.

>There have even been campaigns in the threads to try and push anons into supporting child love.

Drawings aren't children.
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>>119443411
Europe, America they are all the same
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>>119443445
Proper real life child love. Like NAMBLA shit.

I just don't want to go to jail for looking at /a/ man.
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>>119441554
>> That one woman was saying that junior idol DVDs are fucked up, and she hopes that they'll be gone by the olympics
>"But she tells me she hasn't given up hope of a ban on manga and anime"

Yeah good thing you actually read it
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>>119443356
You mean Europoors.
Here in Burgerland it's the opposite, we dont care at the shit you watch or the cartoon porn losers fap to, but if we find an ounce of hard drugs on you, you're doing big time
Japan is the same way in this regard.
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>>119443374
I'm rolling in my chair and I'm not dead yet. Your dad worked at the BBC when he was alive?
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>>119443364

They probably need fewer million people just to level out their population to a decent number, and yeah, it mainly is the burden of the non-working and non-dying elderly. But I also think this weird tendency of Japs being afraid of living alone is what drives them into cities. They don't want to spread out and inhabit the rural locations, so they crowd into urban centers and live stupidly expensive lives. Japan may not have Kansas' open space, but there's so much more than just the Kanto Plain.
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>>119443386
You would still be worried about this guy watching child porn. Would you actually be ok having a person that literally jerks off to kids being raped or just banging someone, nearby other kids or your own kids?
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>>119443482
Actually, lolicon is banned in a few stated and people have been arrested for it.
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>>119443235
Lovely filename, faggot.
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I think gay people and transgenders should be banned as well if they're banning loli. That shit is promoting mental illness.

>>119443477
Jesus, you britcucks are so fucking paranoid. I can tell you've never been in one of those threads.

>>119443517
>Child porn

They're drawings. Why should you know what I jerk off to? I could jerk off to mental images of floor tiles, does that mean I shouldn't be allowed alone in the kitchen?

>>119443522
Those people were already on sex offender lists before they got caught for loli.
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>>119443235
I don't understand this. I wouldn't be showing my porn to anyone I know in real life.
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>>119443457
In Europe, the government fucks you in the ass. In America, corporations fuck us in the ass. The difference is, the corporations don't have it out for loli, or drugs (when they can profit from it, at least), but your European nanny governments sure do.
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>>119443522
What pisses me off the most are when actual child molesters have loli in their houses. All it does is cause shit and even more stigma. If only they'd all drop dead and stop making problems for everyone else.
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>>119443477
Then you get the fuck off /a/, we shouldn't have to change our ways just because you live in a dystopian shithole.
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>>119443530
Fuck off you pedofuck, why do I need to edit the filename when it wont make a damn difference to the actual image. At least come up with an actual comeback to the image.
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>>119443565
>>119443588
>implying loli is not the stepping stone to 3dpd CP
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>>119443522
Poor people, unless they had actual cp like that idiot black kid, Thad I think was his name, then they should retrial.
In most likely cases, those people were arrested previous times for different sexual offenses in where anti cartoon lolicon people see this as a case
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>>119441428
This.
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>>119443602
Can't you just go to /b/?

Whatever man, I'm still going to report the threads because I don't want to be labeled a paedophile.
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>>119443565
Floor tiles aren't human beings anon.
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>>119443616
I've grown to hate this species, so no.
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>>119443616
except 2D pushes me farther and farther away from 3DPD
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Thank god I live in a third world shithole. Sure loli is illegal but at least the government is incompetent enough and have far more pressing issues to not be able to crack down on any of it.
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>>119443645

Neither are drawings.
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>>119443616
I've been masturbating to loli for ten years and I've never even seen 3DPD CP. I have no desire to ever see it because it's fucking gross.

>>119443642
>everyone else leave because I live in a thoughtcrime fuckhole

>>119443645
Neither are drawings.
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>>119443615
Those are drawings, not actual people. No one gets hurt in the making and 3DPD is shit.
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>>119443623

People getting busted for lolicon usually has to do with pleaded guilty on charges of obscenity. What's obscene and what isn't is so nebulous and undefined that every single judge and jury will probably see it different. It usually has to do with what society thinks is obscene, but that also constantly changes.
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>tfw loli and shota will soon be banned from japan
>tfw Idols will also be banned
>tfw no more idolmaster shit
>tfw Berserk will end in your lifetime
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Thank god Japan is immune to this shit.
Meanwhile, the west get shit like this http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/6/7505929/intel-investing-300-million-to-fix-diversity-ces-2015
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>>119443670
Immature cunt.
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>>119443565
>gay
>mental illness
is this bait?
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>>119443565
>They're drawings

That's a pathetic defense and you know it. They're not floor tiles, they're symbolic representations of human beings, identified as unique individuals and empathized with by the reader, often more so than if they were real, because they've been drawn in an emotionally exaggerated way to better appeal to you. As far as stimulation goes, it's more effective than your everyday interactions with people.
Especially if you don't, you know, interact with people.
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>>119443642
Why don't you just go to reddit?
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>>119443698
>implying its not
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Britcucks please go.
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>>119443642
Congratulations, you're on the same level as the liberal fucks ruining western society.
>I don't like it, instead of dealing with it or finding somewhere else to go let's get rid of it!
Eat a sack of soggy dicks.
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>>119443576
The point of the drawing is to try to convince you that 2Dlolicons are hypocrites
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>>119443623
>>119443680
And if I recall correctly, at least one of them only lost because he decided to defend himself, and did a shit job of it. It's fairly certain that if one of these cases ever actually made it to the supreme court we'd have the state laws changed, after the whole anti-loli part of the federal law being ruled unconstitutional and all.
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>>119443689
>Berserk will end
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>>119443698
No.
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>>119443691
Please, enlighten me, what part of that was immature? Me calling you a retard for thinking others should leave because of where you live?

>>119443698
I was referring more to the transgender part.

>>119443710
I see floor tiles as phallic symbols and equate them to underage boys.
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>>119443281
Maybe they just want to show that other types of Asians are paedos too.
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>>119443727
too bad were running this shit now holmes
Id rather be secure than give some idiots freedom
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>>119443690
Thankfully, Japan is still far right in the political sense so they're immune to leftist bullshit like feminist and SJW and being genocide by minorities.

Japan also has the lowest crime rate of any nation and are still progressing.
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>>119443746
>>119443710

Floor tiles obviously represent the pinnacle of perfection which is pettanko. Get your facts straight.
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>>119443742
>Implying this is not one big scheme by the Queen of england to get miura to work and finish berserk before she dies
you cant fool me MI6
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>Meanwhile in Japan.
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>>119443710

The reason CP is banned, even if you had nothing directly to do with it's creation, is because it's considered abuse and exploitation of a living person. There's a definite victim. With lolicon, the reasoning can only come down to "it might, it could", which is horseshit.
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I really hope the UK blocks people from using 4chan soon, I can't take anymore of these retards.
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>mfw britfag and everyone in englin thinks manga and anime=hentai
>mfw I also exclusively fap to hentai anyway
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>>119443810
Australia too. That would be nice.
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>>119443770
THis is the part that I can't understand. Japan has one of the lowest rate of murders, rape and pedophilia in the world but somehow THEY are the ones that need nomething fixed? What gives?
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>>119443770
Don't try to correlate low crime rate with being right winged
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>>119443810
This. The /a/nons who truly love the board and contribute to will work to bypass it.
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Can we stop with the cuck shit already. It doesn't even mean anything any more.
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>>119443800
>yfw you realize looking at cells and/or embryos counts as CP.
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>>119443837
He's not, you defensive idiot. He's pointing out a fact.
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>>119443667
>>119443670
The drawings are based of actual human beings though. Like do you not understand that? I dare you to go out and just walk around with child porn and just see how normal and none damaging it is, just tell anyone that walks up to you to punch your pedofuck face off, that its just "drawings" see how they will hit you harder for the poor excuse of a comeback your pedophile mind came up with. I can already see your reply going hurr durrr normalfags.
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>>119443810
Please no
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>>119443835

SJWs can't stand their racial homogeneity and general peacefulness. They and Korea just completely destroy their argument that whites are only people with unfair advantages. Japan's success is toxic to their platform.
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>>119443770
>genocide by minorities
I want /pol/ to stay in their board.
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>>119443835
Because Westerners dont like it when something other than their culture is progressing
disgusting pig dogs
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It is a disgusting hobby and people who enjoy it can be looked down upon, but that doesn't mean it should be illegal.
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>>119443870
cartoon drawings do not harm anyone. Also why would I publicly walk around with porn, or any fetish for that matter?
Unless you're an expositionist
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>Entire village of people being raped for years
>Authorities aware of this
>Nothing is done

>Cartoon porn
>SHUT IT DOWN!SHUT IT DOWN!

Thanks UK
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>>119443870
The same thing would happen if you said "I jerk off 10 times a day!" or "up yours, niggerfuck!"

It's not about being socially acceptable. A lot of things are socially unacceptable, and you'd never reveal them publicly. It's about what's okay to do in your bedroom away from anyone else.
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Can't you fucks just have a normal fetish like scat or sounding instead of toddlers?
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>>119443732 see >>119443363
I don't see the problem. Watching Saw is fine apparently, but reading LO is not? Ridiculous.
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>>119443870
What people see as disgusting or weird is not immediately unlawful. The two are different. If I have People see loli drawings as weird but it can't be banned
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>>119443959

Why not all three?
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>>119443943
Your argument seems to be that since "entire village of people are raped", then no action should ever be taken on possible future offenses?
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>>119443870
No they aren't anon. You're being irrational and silly. No humans are being harmed or exploited, and honestly I'd like to see 2D child pornography legalised to give pedophiles an outlet. I guarantee that if they had an option that would satisfy their urges while not landing in prison for them they would flock to it, and less children would be harmed by pornographers and molesters/rapists.
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>>119443835
Westerners like to divert attention from their own shit and insist that other countries have problems and they don't.
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>>119443870
I wouldn't walk around with images of big titted milfs either. Why would you bring your private life into the public sphere?
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>>119443941
shit, I meant exhibitionist
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>>119443870
Why are you even here? Reddit is more suitable for you. I can't walk around with CP, because I don't have any. Like I said, I've literally never seen CP in my life, because even back in the day when I went on /b/, I was always too scared to click it. Why is it the business of random strangers on the street what I masturbate to? I'd get hit in the face if I went around showing people pictures of gay porn.

>>119443886
He has a point, you know. Countries like the UK are being flooded with minorities, and they're too scared to address any of the issues with them for fear of being branded racist.

>>119443959
>implying I'm into toddlercon

Once and that was it, man. It's too much for me.
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>>119443698
No, it's /pol/.
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It's bad.

Artists like Rustle, Show, Salad even trace child porn and they're the most popular on /a/.
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>>119443959
Im not german
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>>119443835
Yeah, true. Western SJWs should focus on "fixing" their shitholes, whether the problems are made up or not.
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>>119443998
>tracing

Disgusting.
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Even if they ban lolicon and shotacon it wont stop people from imagining it. Look at the prohibition period and how it got bad. People are just gonna hate on something that they dont like or understand.
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>>119443973
So all video game players are mass murderers? Those fucking games, teaching people how to murder and all.
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I swear if they take away my anime tits and ass because of you pedos I'm going to be mad.
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>>119443800
>With lolicon, the reasoning can only come down to "it might, it could", which is horseshit.

Doing drugs doesn't necessarily hurt anyone either, no one is being killed, abused or discriminated against. If you know what you're doing, using them is perfectly safe. Yet they're illegal in most countries. Why? Generally because using them is harmful to one's body and psyche, and can incite criminal behavior. Because the majority of people using them are really fucking stupid and easily influenced. Seeing a pattern here?
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>>119443973
>implying bitching about another country and culture is taking action to prevent future offenses
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>>119443998
Yeah, but there's nothing wrong with that either. Viewership of child porn is not morally wrong, and therefore, tracing images aren't either. If anything you could think they're an overall positive for rendering real CP into drawn CP
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>>119443985
Anon, please. "Genocide"? Really? That is the most fucking disgusting self-victimization rhetoric I have heard. It belittles actual victims of genocide, AND makes whatever argument you have to be binned as moronic.

"We need immigration reform"? Sure. "We need to take a harder stance on extremists?". I agree. "HALP WE R GENOCIDED!!!"? Yeah, you're being retarded. That's SJW-tier faggotry who insists any expression that they don't like to be "rape".
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>>119443998
>Salad
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>>119443810
>>119443832
Yes.
Oh god yes.
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>>119443973
No, his argument is that efforts should be used to fix known issues at home rather than made up issues in a different country. In fact, that simple directive, applied to everyone, would have prevented most of the issues we've encountered so far this century.
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>>119444035
Equivocation falacy, or apples to oranges if you prefer
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>>119443997

Nobody chooses the /pol/lifestyle, it chose them. But really, all of the check your privilege and cis this and that nonsense is a convincing argument to become more reactionary or halted on some issues.

>>119444035

Drugs cause immediate and noticeable effects on your brain, and on your body. Arguing that point for lolicon would probably just light up the same regions that any other porn does.
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>>119444049
Every fucking time I see even just those 8 legs, I shiver. Fucking spiders.
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>>119444035
There are scientific studies concluding the influence of drug use on behavior. We know what chemicals do to our brain. However, with loli drawings it's a different matter. No correlation has ever been demonstrated.
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>>119444088
Not to mention that no one causes traffic accidents or robs a store under the influence of lolicon.
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>>119444035
Drugs directly affect brain chemistry and bodily functions to take effect, that's the point.
All porn does is give you a good feeling from the brain that is nowhere near its level. It shouldn't incite criminal activity to an educated individual
Drugs, it depends what you take
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I'd be embarrassed if my capital city hosting the olympics was filled with adverts and posters on buildings of cutsey anime girls. Especially younger ones. But that's another issue altogether.
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>>119444101
Lt. Rico pls go
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>>119444029
That's why we're all getting lobotomies, anon.

>>119444035
That's a bullshit comparison, because putting harmful substances into your body is different from looking at lines on a page. There's also a fuck of a lot more drug users than people who read loli.

>>119444049
Don't get too fucking triggered, jackass. He was using a figure of speech.
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>>119444035
>can incite criminal behavior
Meanwhile making them illegal gives cartels and gangs incredible profits and influence. Prohibition worked real well too right?
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>>119444062
Well you could fix the problems at home if society would take a harder stance on regulations when it comes to reproduction and parenting.

We need fucking parenting licenses, because damn it some people have no business making and raising children at all.
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>>119444088
>Nobody chooses the /pol/lifestyle, it chose them
No, I disagree, you choose stupidity, not the other way round. For all the fun we poke at SJWs and the like, I have never been told to check my privilege, submit to the Sharia police, or whatever. If you choose to be reactionary over a mostly illusionary issue, that's your decision, not "something that chose you".
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>>119444035
What >>119444076 said. Your comparison makes no fucking sense.
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>>119443825
Normals always associate manga and anime with hentai or battle shounen. If only they'd know about romcons or SoL.
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>>119444137
That's completely unrelated to the topic on-hand, so fuck off.
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>>119444112

It's a dopamine response, and you usually have to find harder and harder stuff to get it going. Again, any fucking porn is going to do that. It's also really easy to reset.
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I'm all for banning loli,since they're always the shite characters
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>>>119443698
>implying it's bait
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Would those in favor of banning drawn loli also be in favor of banning written erotica with the same sort of premise? What's the difference? Think Nabokov.
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No more underage girls?
Good thing I'll still have my 1000 year olds, monsters and xx-year schoolgirls.
A porn ban on cartoons would make no sense.

I can imagine old Japanese politicians arguing over whether lolis are an age or bodytype, just like we do.
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>>119444195

There should be no difference, but it comes down to one being visual and the other one requiring too much effort for anyone to care.
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>>119440730
>actually using the phrase "strong independent women" unironically
top lel
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>some talented artists actually waste it on porn
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>>119444189
I'm in favor for banning you since you have perpetually shit taste.
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>>119444161
Fuck that. Don't you realize that anime and manga needs to have stigma to protect /a/ from normalfaggots and the industry itself from filthy foreigners?

What I want is for everyone to think anime and manga is only for losers and nerds while any action taking against censoring fucking drawings is shot down and laughed at.
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>>119444195
Cartoons are just a dimension too far.
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>>119444246
Too far indeed. ;_;
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>>119444237
we all start from somewere
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>>119444217
I think even if Japan did magically ban all lol the artists would keep making it anyway.
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>>119444217
This, if anything drastic does happen they'll just say that all lolis are monsters or something. Like they have to call the schools in ero games "academies"

>>119444244
I agree.
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>>119444195
Might as well ban works of art too. All those paintings and sculptures of naked girls and boys sure haven't triggered society.
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>"I want to make it disappear," she says. "By 2020, when the Summer Olympics will take place in Japan, we have to turn Japan into a country which people don't call a perverted culture."
Holy fuck fuck off.
It's 2D.

Real children are fucking repulsive. Real children do not have curves, large breasts, 10 inch dicks, or fit fat cocks in to their anus/vagina and start cumming everywhere.

I love loli but I do not like children.
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>>119444266
They might ban in in 40+ years but right now it's simply too ingrained into the culture to outright ban it.
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>>119444161
You can just easily counter their argument by using US comics and destroy their fallacy.
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>>119444304
>40 years

They still haven't removed mosiac censorship in 3DPD porn
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>>119444291
Nah, just things based on children.
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>Olympics 2020
>the Japanese don't want foreigners to think all they do is jack off to cartoon porn
>try to tone it down in anticipation of said event

Frankly, I'm fine with the idea. They don't want a horrible reputation, at least during the Olympics. And it's not like these things will disappear, anyway, even if it was outlawed - it would merely go underground, which I think what most people would settle for.
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>>119444339
>But she tells me she hasn't given up hope of a ban on manga and anime.

>"I want to make it disappear," she says. "By 2020, when the Summer Olympics will take place in Japan, we have to turn Japan into a country which people don't call a perverted culture."

These are together in the article, meaning all manga/anime based on children is what they want banned.
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>>119444291
>to turn Japan into a country which people don't call a perverted culture
They think banning loli/shota is enough to remove the western view of Japan being a perverted culture? If it wasn't for the censorship of porn there wouldn't be weird shit like bukkake and tentacles.
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>>119444266
they could make distribution much much harder. imagine making things like comiket illegal, or requiring licences and registration of each individual work. the bureaucracy would crush artists.

So they could keep it legal in theory but breathe down so hard on any kind of distribution that it's not feasible commercially.
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>>119444339
He literally just said he hates real children and he only likes drawings that defy the laws of nature

How stupid are you?

>>119444360
I'd prefer it to go underground, because it would mean less normals wasting their time with it.
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>>119444339
What kind of point is that? Everything fictional is "based on" something else. Everything that people can creatively come up with has roots in the real world because that's all we have to work with.
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Reminds me of that CNN video where the guy is in the ally huffing and puffing like he had to run 500m after purchasing a NON-PORN doujin.
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>>119443319
>you had a teacher like this
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>>119444328
>They still haven't removed mosiac censorship in 3DPD porn
I love this world for how ridiculous some laws are.
I remember old threads where people would discuss infiltrating Japan just to steal original unlicensed hentai and spread uncensored versions online
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>>119440730
SHTAP!
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>which people don't call a perverted culture
Heads up, all of humanity is fucked up in the head one way or another. Japan is just more open about it than others, that's actually commendable.
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>>119442480
Of course they can. Are you fucking dumb? Also in Hellenstic times children married at age of 10
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>>119444392
>enjoying specifically small child-like things being fucked
>ever okay in any way
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>>119444430
What about petite women who are of legal age?
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>>119444416
It's disgusting that anyone "won". He should have just been left alone. When I reincarnate as a nip, I will have to be the one to create the new hero of NEETs.
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>>119444430
Australia government, pls go
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Olympics are getting closer and akiba is marketed as the electric city to gaijins already.
Of course they want to clean it up but holy fuck they'll cause a riot.
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>>119443870
>The drawings are based of actual human beings though.

Actual older, legal humans.

Or are you suggesting they trace real CP? Fuck, even Show knew that I'd be his end if he used real CP in his traces.
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>>119444430
Well, it's okay because they literally don't exist as real human beings.
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>>119444427

They can give their consent, but it doesn't mean anything under the law. Even if you made the age lower, you'd probably still stop at 12 or 13.
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>>119444339
>>119444291
>Doesn't want her country being called perverted country
>Only banning loli porn


I love her logic
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>>119444427
You're the one who's fucking dumb. Teenagers are fucking morons. Most of the decisions they make are fucking horrible, I don't think most have the responsibility to give consent. Most kids don't even learn about sex until teens. No fucking child can give consent
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>>119444423
It always annoys me when people go off about Japan when its legal to sell your children into prostitution in other countries like fucking India. The difference is India is a cesspool with no one giving a fuck about stupid shit British people say, while Japan has to host the Olympics and all eyes on them with athletes and celebs traveling there posting about shit like drawn porn
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>>119444483
>screencapping a fag who ends forum posts with
> - Tom
Kill yourself
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>>119444522
>XSeed's company account
>States who posted it
Hurp nigga.
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>>119444483
>XSEED
I wonder if they'll ban Corpse Party.
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>>119444430
>enjoying specifically small child-like things being fucked
But what if they're actually 500 years old?
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Fucking hell, I just woke up and it's on the front page of the BBC. Shit's occurin.
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>>119444430
It's okay because it's LIKE children meaning they're not really children
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>>119444423
Yeah, that's wishful thinking on her part if she thinks people will stop thinking that the japanese are a bunch of deviants in 5 years.

>>119444430
Not even going to bother with this one.

>>119444513
>Teenagers are fucking morons. Most of the decisions they make are fucking horrible

I'm not taking a side in this, but I think we've got too much of a focus on this "no one can ever be wrong" mentality. I don't see what's wrong with letting a stupid kid make a retarded decision, it's their life. We need to stop giving entitled fuckheads such a large safety net.
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>>119444398
Can you give me the sauce? I remember a little about that video, but mostly I already forget about it.
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>>119444513
Yes they can. An 18 year old is not more mature than a 15 year old, if any. The same goes with boys. There are studies on adolescents and driving and it shows that there is a point when boys reach 22 or something they become much wiser and get into less accidents than 18 year olds
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>>119444339
>Nah, just things based on children.
>These are together in the article, meaning all manga/anime based on children is what they want banned.

That would be great and all, but almost all manga and anime are based on teen heroes. Almost all protagonists and heroines are minors.

Kanie Seiya from Amagi Brilliant Park is a minor.
Ippo, when the manga started, was in high school.
Luffy was a kid when the manga started.
Evangelion is about a bunch of high schoolers.
The Type-Moon franchise has minors in protagonist roles and minors as heroines.

Girls und Panzer, Love Live, Precure, Hitsugi no Chaika, Grisaia no Kajitsu, almost all of the Gundam shows, and TWGOK all have minors in major roles.

When she says she wants to ban all manga/anime based on "children" that's a very broad brush. Most anime and manga are based on minors being heroes, because it's about being young and achieving things from youth.

The entire Toaru Majutsu/Railgun and Mahouka series are almost all minors, for example.
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>>119444559
Too young.

It should be illegal until 1000 years old.
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>>119443959
>instead of toddlers?

Here is a nice pic of a loli that usually gets drawn naked and usually depicted to have sex.

Note: She's not a toddler.
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Immortal lolis are the key. No one can say any shit without discriminating against petite if they're not children.
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Anyone who has been to Japan(I have) knows that no matter what they will do. They are going to be perceived as perverted. Host clubs, specific hotels for sex only, unscalable mountains of 2D AND 3D porn, just impossible things to miss and are all over the place. Tough luck
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>>119444430
What part of 'real children aren't harmed in literally any way' don't you fucking idiots understand?
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>not enough lolis
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>>119444595
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/18/world/asia/japan-manga-anime-pornography/
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>>119444502
then it all boils down to muh law and its subjective qualities.
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>>119444483
we need more heroes in mankind.
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>>119444632
>CNN
That explains a lot.
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>>119444430
G'day there mate, you're here girlfriend is under 6foot, gona have to have you step outa the car.
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>>119444632
>Dolls Fall

So how bad is it compared to Corpse Party?
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>>119444035
>If you know what you're doing, using them is perfectly safe.
Oh boy, this is great.
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>>119444632
>Actual children suffering and crying is not acceptable. But manga doesn't involve actual children. So there are no actual victims

Why is this not the end of the discussion?
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>>119444611
Illegal.
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>>119444582
>letting a stupid kid make a retarded decision
Young children don't make decisions, they do as they're told. 15-16+ is the rebellious phase i.e. when they start to think for themselves.
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>>119444632
That fucking article again. 2020 is going to be goddamn nightmare.
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>>119444522

You're a new breed of stupid
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>Ghost in the Shell would be fully localized, with Western names, locale, storyline, etc.
>fansubbing groups are either dead, or snapped up by the Crunchyroll Empire
>loli, guro and other "unorthodox" fetishes are made illegal
Where were you when the Great Purge happened, /a/?
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Maybe the BBC should get their asses to the middle east and tell all the fucking sand niggers to stop getting 8 year olds pregnant and slicing up baby genitalia
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>>119443424
Bingo. Killing is fine, but rape? No siree.
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>>119444682
Because normals can't tell the difference between reality and fiction while they yell at us we can't.
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>>119444683
In Canada, UK and Australia maybe.

Places like that are worst than 3rd world countries.
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>>119444600

It's well accepted that you're not emotionally matured until your mid-twenties. But still, 12 and 18 are miles apart.
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>>119444632
>Mio Bryce, an expert on anime and manga from Macquarie University in Sydney, said Japan's obsession with "kawaii" or cuteness made it difficult to distinguish whether the characters in the material were depicting children or not.

>Shihoko Fujiwara runs Lighthouse, a nonprofit for exploited children. She told CNN she once worked on a case where a predator used a cartoon to convince a child that sex abuse was normal. "So the pedophiles might bring the animation and say 'this is how you practice with adults,'" she said.

Holy fuck this is so fucking stupid.
I'm going to show "how to" videos to children on how to cut off your own hand and tell them this is how you practice with adults.

Better ban how to videos.
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>>119444702
>slicing up baby genitalia
That's a Jewish practice, anon. And good luck telling the BBC to criticize Israel.
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>>119444602
>When she says she wants to ban all manga/anime based on "children" that's a very broad brush. Most anime and manga are based on minors being heroes, because it's about being young and achieving things from youth.
So basically, she wants to ban ALL anime and manga.
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>waste precious resources on cracking down on almost inconsequential 'problems' instead of actually doing shit that matters

For what purpose?
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>>119444623
Ye still fucked in the head for enjoying imagery of childlike characters being sexually abused.
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>>119444745
Go away and bring your sister here.
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>>119444682
Because most people are dumb that they can't tell it's reality or not?
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>>119444137
>We need fucking parenting licenses, because damn it some people have no business making and raising children at all.
That's actually a violation of human rights.

Absurd, I know, but there you are.
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>>119444632
>Cuteness is a problem
go away moralfags
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>>119444711
It's funny, I have a shitload of mental issues and it's very obvious to me where the line is. I've spent like three years locked in a fucking apartment watching anime and reading manga all day, and I'm still aware of the difference between reality and fiction.

>>119444726
I'm going to start showing them videos on how to steal their parents' credit cards to show them how adults do it

>>119444727
Mudslimes do it too
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>>119444747
Go complain about it on facebook, no one here cares.
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>>119444755
No, you get the equally sexy AZUKI AZUSA instead.
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>>119444745
mo ikkai, kochi muite
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>>119444755
>Not liking based imouto

Go back to that shit hole MILF thread.
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>>119444747
And?
Homos are "fucked up" in the head too, the only reason people find them acceptable is because they don't harm people. Which is completely fair.
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Why do most of you pedophiles denied the fact that you like 3D little girls.
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>>119444602
I have no idea why people don't understand this yet at all. Banning anime/manga based on "children" would eradicate over 4/5 of the manga and anime that is being made today.

Even manga and anime aimed at josei and seinen have teens in their stories.
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>>119440730

I bet a woman wrote this.
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>>119444632
Sasuga Cirno News Network.
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>>119444726
How does one become an official expert on anime and manga? Is it $300k starting?
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>>119444785
>equally
I think you mean more so.
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>>119444807
Because 3D little girls are disgusting.

2D is literally drawn to perfection, with unrealistic proportions, personality, and situations.

It's 100% complete fantasy.
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>>119444797
>Homos are "fucked up" in the head too
The true people that are fucked up in the head are trans/traps.
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>>119444807
>Why do most of you pedophiles denied the fact that you like 3D little girls.

They don't: see >>>/pol/

Lolicons are different.
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>>119444797
Homos rape little boys, don't forget.

>>119444807
I've never seen real CP and I have no desire to. Human beings are imperfect, manga and anime characters ARE perfect. Why would I want to bother interacting with real people?
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>>119444827
you must first go through moral readjustment courses at a liberal arts university.
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>>119444847
Still kiddy diddling.
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>>119444807
Because I completely fucking hate humans and want to kill you all before this disease known as stupidity infects the rest of the universe. Every single day only increases that hatred even further.

>inb4 bathwater
I don't care anymore. I'm at my limit.
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>>119444807
Because I don't. No attraction exists. Don't call it denial just because reality doesn't fit to your expectations.
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>Outlaw Loli
>Neet fags kill themselves
>Unemployment rate in japan drops
Would it work?
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>>119444849
But traps are the most normal.
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>>119444737
Because it's easier to push the blame and shine light on a nonexistent dilemma.
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>>119444869
>looking at unrealistic drawings is "kiddy diddling"

Fuck off already.

>>119444899
Fuck off Sam
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You guys do realize that fapping to loli is a slippery slope right? You can say all you want that this is harmless but you're still a pedophile at heart
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>>119444807
I've seen plenty of CP on /b/. It's gross, they're ugly, it isn't something that makes my PP twitch.
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>>119444726
Schools use shit like that here in the states. I recall recently a chicago school was teaching 5th graders how to do anal sex or something as a part of curriculum or something.
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セクシー
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>>119444858
>Homos rape little boys
Homo=/=pedo
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>>119444910
It's fantasizing about it yes. Isn't that what you're doing?
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>>119444869
>Still kiddy diddling.
>Just thinking of it is a crime

I'm thinking of raping your mom and little sister right now. I like them. I'll just leave them all messes up with my creamy cream here in my mind.

Now. Get me arrested.
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>>119444899
>Unemployment rate in world drops

ftfy
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>>119444919
I also like playing shooting games.
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>>119440730

Nothing but Olympics bait, meanwhile we haven't sorted shit out in our own country with members of royalty and Muslims getting away with molesting children, yet we feel it's our sworn duty to tell other countries how to handle censorship laws regarding children.

Only in Britain folks.
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>>119444807
Because I don't. 2D =/= 3D
The fact that you have to ask this question proves you don't belong here so just fuck off already.
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>>119444919
>fapping to loli is a slippery slope right?
I've been fapping to loli for a good 7 years now. I still find actual kids repulsive.
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>>119444858
No, priests rape little boys, they just happen to be homo as well.
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reminder that lolicon != pedophile != child abuser
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Is this being reported on the BBC News channel as well or just online?

Might just listen the the Radio 4 program tomorrow.
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>>119444807
But I'm 10 years old
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>"'Cuteness is a problem," she said. "Because cuteness is something that makes you feel you have to protect the person, and there's a very fine line between 'I can protect the person' and 'I can control the person.'"
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>Japan's parliament decided against this. The decision drew condemnation from child protection campaigners and NGOs, particularly outside Japan.
BTFO
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>>119444941
>members of royalty and Muslims getting away with molesting children
Explain.
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>>119444938
shooting games is no problem. Gun-nuts who shoot at firing ranges don't end up hurting innocents
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>>119444919
I've been fapping to loli since I was twelve, and I'm actually scared of real kids.

>>119444925
Of course, I'm just saying that there are gay pedos. Being gay does harm people.

>>119444926
Fantasizing about what? I could fantasize about jerking off on the white house doorstep, does that mean I should be arrested?


>>119444955
Clickbait only works online
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>>119444923
>>119444947

You sirs have great taste.
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>>119444981

Some 1,300 or 1,400 kids abused and never reported because all the perps were brown, and no one wanted to be outed as racist.
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>>119444919
I know a bunch of 20+ year old 3D girls who have the body type of small little girls. So if I'm attracted to them is that being a pedophile?
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>>119444970
If they say it's wrong to protect things then why are they trying to protect children?
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>>119444981
There's a big scandal right now about them having a shitload of eyes wide shut style orgies
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>>119444954
I'd think the term child abuser is a rather vague or large umbrella of which pedophiles kind of would fall under. But of course there are other abusers that have no sexual intent.
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>>119444602
>no one is reading this because this BTFO every argument they have
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We also should ban guns.
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>>119444981

Prince Andrew was recently caught diddling some kids and there was a Muslim community in Rotherham operating a child sex ring that the BBC or any journalist keeps avoiding every time it's brought up unless of course, you know it'll be used as UKIP anti-multiculturalism propaganda.
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>Complaining about sjw's and /pol/ posting on /a/
Why can you guys just stay on /tv/b/pol/?
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>>119445004
Nope.
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>>119445012
>I'd think the term child abuser is a rather vague or large umbrella of which pedophiles kind of would fall under
I was going to say the same thing, but just because you're a pedophile does not mean you fuck children, or even touch children. Which means you're not a child abuser, at all.
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Can we just ban anime and manga so I can fix my life already?
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>>119445004
It probably is in Australia, at least.
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I'm more disgusted by the openness. All those disgusting old men and otaku out purchasing what they'll be fapping to later. Pls keep it more private japs
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>>119445009

None of wiki articles mention all of the interesting bites. Have anything that actually talks about the abuse being on that kind of organized level?
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Why do the people proposing the ban seem to be the ones far more incapable of grasping the difference between reality and fiction than the so-called pedophiles they're accusing?
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>>119444923
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>>119444899
The only problem is that it wouldn't only be NEETs affected.
If you walk into a shop like Melonbooks in the evening you are just as likely to find younger guys in tracksuits as you are to find older guys in business suits.
It crosses all age groups and social statuses, so you can't use it to target just one category of people.
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>>119445012
No, not all those who sexually abuse children are pedophiles, many of them just are rapists with an easy victim to control.
And not all who are attracted to children act on those urges.

Neither is a strict subset of the other.

Therefore equating pedophiles to child rapists is incorrect. As simple as that.
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>>119445004
No
use your brains man
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Everybody here should watch Otaku no Video for the live action parts.
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>>119445046
_NO
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>>119445036
We're complaining about normies, quit moving the goal post.

>>119444970
>Waifu gives birth to our daughter
>I say its cute
>Thrown in jail
Such is life in 2020.
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>>119445058
I was reading something from the last thread about a political member saying he was threatened with death after being very publicly against pedophilia
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>>119444922
>Citation needed
Also I think teach 13 year old kids what anal sex is should be totally acceptable. Especially these days when they have unrestricted access to the internet, only a moron would think that they won't find out on their own.
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Thank you based dumper.
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>>119445062

Because everyone is a fucking idiot. No exceptions.
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>>119444987
Fantasizing about fucking child like characters. It's what you're doing.
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>>119445096
>people are against drawings but are perfectly fine with teaching kids how to perform sodomy
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>>119444983
And there's the double standard.
You could easily say that a person who plays shooting games might go out and shoot someone in real life, the same way you say that someone who likes loli might go and harm a real child.
Both statements are baseless and speculative bullshit.
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>>119445046
>Can we just ban anime and manga so I can fix my life already?
No

>>119445062
>Why do the people proposing the ban seem to be the ones far more incapable of grasping the difference between reality and fiction
Because they're all dumb.
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>>119445066
>Keito will never sexually assault you in the bath
Fuck this gay dimension.
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>>119444983
Pedos who shoot to drawings don't end up hurting innocent children.
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>>119444984
Is there a sauce for this?
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That guy who thinks Kate from Zvezda is sexy should be drowned in a vat of piss.

She's just an annoying cunt.

renge4lyfe
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>>119445096
i'll try to find the source. it was on Sargon of Akkad's "This week in stupid" youtube a few weeks ago
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>>119443870
But all those people looking images in video games I get to slaughter! Guess I'm a serial killer!
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>>119445124
Me second from the right.
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I hope some disgrunted otaku terorrists blow up japanese parlament if they ban loli for Olympics.
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Cute things are dangerous pls ban.
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>>119444984
Am I still a paedo if I just like her for the backpack?
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>>119445086
Would it be wrong to place a few copies of comic LO in the kids section of a public library?
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Your days are numbered, pedos. Savour your last moments!
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>>119445106
>Fantasizing about fucking child like characters.

And there's nothing wrong with fantasizing, fantasizing about child like characters and fantasizing about fucking child like characters. It's like you're saying fantasizing about killing the prince of england is a crime.
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>BBC
Fuck you britbongs.
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>>119445106
I don't fantasize about fucking the characters, I fantasize about the characters fucking each other. Why do you think there's even a story if it's just supposed to be self-insertion? When I fap to Eva doujins, I don't imagine myself in Shinji's place.

Speaking of which, those would probably count as CP according to normalfags. Shit.
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>>119445106
I fantasize about raping the president and his entire family. I guess I should go to jail even though I'll literally never do anything to them or by within 1000 miles.

Are you seriously ok with thought police?

Have you even read 1984?
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Let it all burn, let my soul be relinquished of the world and brace the sweet release of death.
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>>119445124
Me molesting my tanned loli
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HEY PRO-BANNERS

>>119445106
>>Nah, just things based on children.
>>These are together in the article, meaning all manga/anime based on children is what they want banned.
>That would be great and all, but almost all manga and anime are based on teen heroes. Almost all protagonists and heroines are minors.
>Kanie Seiya from Amagi Brilliant Park is a minor.
>Ippo, when the manga started, was in high school.
>Luffy was a kid when the manga started.
>Evangelion is about a bunch of high schoolers.
>The Type-Moon franchise has minors in protagonist roles and minors as heroines.
>Girls und Panzer, Love Live, Precure, Hitsugi no Chaika, Grisaia no Kajitsu, almost all of the Gundam shows, and TWGOK all have minors in major roles.
>When she says she wants to ban all manga/anime based on "children" that's a very broad brush. Most anime and manga are based on minors being heroes, because it's about being young and achieving things from youth.
>The entire Toaru Majutsu/Railgun and Mahouka series are almost all minors, for example.

The women in these articles are complete idiots. They have an agenda against all anime and manga. Because they want to ban all anime under their own criterion of what they want to ban.
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I don't want fucking lolicons being the ones carrying the title of anime and manga. Fuck you BBC. It's already bad enough of a rep for anime. Now anime fans are going to be paedos too. Fuck off
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>>119445124
Me, on the left.
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>>119445161
>>119445124
Me the ponytail one
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>>119445122
What's the difference between sodomy and sex? Who the fuck has sex these days JUST to have children. This stigma is really fucking stupid.
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>>119445062

Turning one's brain off is the best way to win an argument.
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>>119445184
kek
Reminds me of my shithead friends back in the day moving all the bibles to the Fiction section.
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>>119445203
I just want the porn banned. Outlaw the pedophiles.
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>>119445204
You fuck off. I want normalfaggots to hate anime and manga, but be able to do nothing about what they find immoral.
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>tfw after they're done with lolicon they're coming for your fetish
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I miss ancient Rome where sex was a gift from the gods and not this faggotry that the catholic church says nowadays and everyone believes.
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>>119445187
Well don't complain when people blacklist you lot. Article probably goes out of line with banning, but it is a controversial topic.
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>>119445204
Butt-blasted so hard.
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>>119445188
They recently banned female orgasms and implemented ISP-level blacks for porn. We're turning into Australia
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>>119445096
http://rt.com/usa/206311-chicago-5thgraders-sex-ed-anal/

here's the article. cant vouch for how refutable the site is.
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>>119445209
Sex is vagoo only because that's where the ponis is supposed to go. Sodomy is when you put it where it doesn't belong, like a butt. I just think it's fucked up to teach kids how to fuck each other in the ass, at least keep it natural if you're going to teach them.

>>119445241
This. I want them to hate it and ignore it so I can live in peace.
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>>119445051
I like that about Japan though. It means I can go into shops and browse the doujin sections and no one looks at me like I am a freak.

And when I walk out carrying a bag with the name of the store on it I don't feel any need to hid it or stuff it in another bag. They all know what it is and they don't care.
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>>119445243
>MUH FETISH

Anime and manga is not your personal fap medium. I wish you plebs would kill yourself
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>>119445266
>we're turning into australia

you're already worse
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These kinds of articles are published every year. You really think the nips are gonna care about what a bunch of white piggu is saying about them?

Ignore and move on
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>>119445271
>at least keep it natural
>using contraception
I'm sorry, what? Please return to the 19th century.
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>>119445243
My fetish is an 18 year old loving incest couple where the sister can't get pregnant.

You can give absolutely no argument against this.
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>>119445302
And every year we have more and more normalfags saying that loli is the same as CP.
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Lolicon and anime aren't the only reason people see Japan as a perverted nation. This is why bitches and sluts need to shut the fuck up and get out of public offices.
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>>119445293
Not really, not yet
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>>119445243

My fetish is Christmas Cakes.

Checkmate Japan.
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>>119445230
Even the United States Supreme Court has ruled against the banning of any fictional artwork that has pornography, because doing otherwise opens a huge can of worms.

I agree with you that real crap should get banned, because real people get harmed by it directly.

But banning 2d art under the guise of banning pornography for the highly dubious argument that it directly causes harm would make:
- video game makers
- movie producers
- comic book artists
- novelists
- painters
- sculptors
- and other fictional works
in the target and crosshairs of the Morality Police.

That is wrong and that is something that the 1970s of entire world already said was wrong to do.
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>>119445287
>someone gets off to that
Fucking sickening
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>>119445284
You're right. It's otakus'.
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>>119445284
>>Anime and manga is not your personal fap medium.
It most certainly is, and will continue to be. Loli or not.
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>>119445320
it's incest. which is illegal. just like raping children. same "analogies" apply
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Can I send Britbongs to jail by posting this?
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>>119445266
Weren't there some cases of poison spiders in the south of England last year?
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>>119445266
>They recently banned female orgasms
Since when did the UK ban female orgasms?
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>>119445384
It's a legally adult couple who can cause absolutely no harm by being together because the sister is born infertile.
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>>119440730
>Anglos
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>>119445266
fucking commonwealth
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>>119445395
You just got half of Australia arrested.
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>>119445317
I already think using condoms is fucked up, but hey. I just think anal is more deviant and it shouldn't be explicitly taught to kids. They can find out about it on their own, they don't need a teacher telling them how to fuck a butt.

>>119445331
Yeah, when I was a kid I thought that Japan was perverted even before I started watching anime. Too much vomit and octopus to be considered normal.

>>119445340
>forks and knives are illegal to sell to minors
>government ignores everything muslims to do not seem racist
>tv licenses
>thought crime
>government owned CCTV everywhere

Keep telling yourself that.

>>119445413
They banned it from being made in UK-produced porn because they're convinced it's piss.
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People have already been arrested for it here.

That manga guy in Middlesbrough and someone got arrested for looking at Simpsons incest porn.
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>>119445395
Reported.
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>>119445365
>video game makers
Only niche Japanese developers.
>movie producers
No.
>comic book artists
Only manga artists.
>novelists
Change that to "writers" and I'll agree.
>painters
Sure.
>sculptors
Sure.
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>>119445432
The guy in the UK was already a sex offender and had restricted internet privileges, and he immediately plead guilty.
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>>119445379
Brilliant
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>>119445413
http://www.dailydot.com/politics/female-orgasm-porn-uk/
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>>119445427
>forks and knives are illegal to sell to minors
Really?
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>>119445379
>that face

It's shit.
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Isn't loli already technically illegal in most countries? Stateside as well? I could have sworn there were a few cases of arrests.
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>>119445419
Doesn't matter, it's illegal.
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>>119445367
You sure sound booty bothered.
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>>119445482
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>>119444632
>Shihoko Fujiwara runs Lighthouse, a nonprofit for exploited children. She told CNN she once worked on a case where a predator used a cartoon to convince a child that sex abuse was normal. "So the pedophiles might bring the animation and say 'this is how you practice with adults,'" she said.

I love shit like this. Some predators use candy to lure kids. Should we ban candy because it promotes child abuse?
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>>119445340
>UK
>not nutcases
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11323558/Anti-terror-plan-to-spy-on-toddlers-is-heavy-handed.html
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AGE OF CAKES IS COMING
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>>119445427
>They can find out about it on their own, they don't need a teacher telling them how to fuck a butt.
The point is that you teach them how to do it correctly so they don't have to rely on low res video from xhamster were they stick it in dry and fuck up their assholes. The only people who object to this are those with stupid morality issues or people who feel uncomfortable with the reality that children of that age are more aware of their sexuality than ever before.
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Oh man. Been a while since the last fearmongering baitfest hasn't it?
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I hope they do it because i think it might start saving anime, there's already more than three animes this year with poor story and lolicon's.
I hope it at least start encouraging story driven animes instead of pure fanservice.
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>>119445498
Only when they have a previous history of child pornography or something of the sort.
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Why haven't you finished banning fictional creations Mr. Creedy?
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Anyone else notice how this thread has more shitposters and faggots agreeing with the article than the first one now that the yuros are awake?
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>>119445419
I'm sure he agrees with you. That doesn't mean the courts will see it that way. You can't argue against public outcry.
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>>119445503
So? The law rules only against depictions of incest as fun or positive.
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>>119443070
>As a Brit, since it's been illegal here for some time now, I've been avoiding the loli porn.
>This is why I report the loli threads on /a/ because I don't want to go to jail. Plus those threads are filled to the with fucking [email protected] ass paedophiles anyway.

Maybe you should riot against your government slowly turning into INGSOC instead of a fucking soccer game and you wouldn't live in such a shithole. Better yet kill yourself for being a bootlicker on fucking 4chan.
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>>119445531
>Removing lolis
>Absolutely fucking anything to do with fanservice
Yeah, no.
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>>119445498
Some guy got arrested in Canada for buying a realistic sex doll of a little girl.
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>>119445498
In my country, it's illegal if you share it to others
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>>119445542
Banning Australia and the UK from 4chan would be a fucking dream.
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Imagine getting locked up for loli. Is there anything more pointless and embarrassing.
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>>119445522
>people who feel uncomfortable with the reality that children of that age are more aware of their sexuality than ever before.
Yeah, like me. The same person who's defending lolicon to the death. If kids are going to have sex, fine. It's just gross to think of them having anal sex at 13.

>>119445531
Go back to MAL
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I wish we had flags on /a/
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>>119445498

True but at least my country doesn't give a single fuck about what I keep on my HDD. In fact, it's more that they can't do anything about it.
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>>119445542
yup I was noticing just now lol fake moralists everywhere.
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>>119445586
>What are you in for?
>Fapping to 2D little girls
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>>119445544
There's absolutely no argument. The couple in question is mature and fully aware of the implications, however if there is no way for a child to even be born, there is no possible consequence of their actions. I'm within the law by not depicting it as positive. I win.
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>>119445542
Says the country that doesn't even allow swearing or butts on the Tele
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you wouldn't ban me, right onii-chan?
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>>119445441
You don't understand how it extends to video game makers, movie producers, comic book artists, novelists, and writers.

Saying something should be banned because it "might" cause people to do something has been rejected by the USSC not only because it is right, but because not doing so would mean all violent and erotic video games, movies, comics, novels, and manuscripts can be banned under the same line of thinking.


Actual crimes with real victims, yes, those deserve bans. But banning works of fiction that have no real basis in reality is something that has been rejected by 1st World societies since the 1970s.

It's the same logic that created movie list bans in the United States because European countries made movies that was considered anti-Christian and could sway people to atheism back in the 1980s.
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>>119445528
>When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.
>The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
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>>119445620
>it's a loli prison and they treat you like a domestic abuser
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Don't you think that if the campaign to clean up anime and manga for the Olympics is successful, we will not see the downfall of the industry, but rather the expulsion of otaku influence? Wouldn't this be a great change? Think of the quality.
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>>119445620
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>>119445498
I have no idea what the law here in Brazil says about 2D porn but I know nobody gives a fuck.
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>>119445664
That's exactly what I was thinking of.
thank you
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>>119445593
>It's just gross to think of them having anal sex at 13.
So it's better to not teach them how to do it right IF they want to do it? Just because you think it's gross?
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>>119444682
Because the very concept of sexually abusing an underage child is morally reprehensible.

There don't need to be real victims for a concept to be passed on and potentially harmful.
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Now excuse me while I'm going to let off some steam to some fictional underage 2D girls
No child is hurt during this process
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>>119445427
The real problem wasn't that they are convinced that it is piss, but that in 90% of porn, where everything is so faked, including the orgasms, it usually was piss.

Not that squirting was made illegal because it isn't real, but because the porn industry almost entirely faked it using peepee.
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>>119445635
That's a piss poor argument coming from somebody living in a country where you have to be 18 to buy a fork.
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>>119445623
But it's still incest. Unless you classed it up by making it arty and depicting their lives as ruinous it would still cause moral outrage.
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>>119445661
No, I think people would be afraid to do anything because it MIGHT tangle with the law.
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>>119445586
Such is the power of fear and governments
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>>119445593
It's gross but it's happening, your solution is to pretend that it's not a problem.
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>>119445586
>MFW Bongistan and Canaduh go bankrupt from filling their prisons with people that fap to little girl cartoons, making the war on drugs looks sane by comparison
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>>119445661
You will never remove otaku from anime and manga. Their influence is now and forever.

Bitch.
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>>119445661
What would be left though? What would be left?

Absolutely nothing.
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