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Why was it so good? >That animation >That service >Araragi

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Why was it so good?

>That animation
>That service
>Araragi doing the fucking Platinum Disco dance
>The focus on everyone's favorite autistic zombie
And here I was thinking that Shaft had lost their touch considering the snooze that was Hanamonogatari
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is that a QB cookie
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>>119196675
sasuga SHAFT
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I still can't get over Araragi being 5'6, what the hell does that faggot eat?
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>>119196642
They expect to make giant piles of jewgold with Final Season so they decided to up the effort to begin with.
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>>119196812
Nipfood.
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>>119196812
Hey, I'm 5'6

asians aren't tall like disgusting white gorillas
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>>119197017
Then how do you reach the pedals in your car?
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>>119197017
>Hey, I'm 5'6
>5'6
>~167 cm
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>>119197033
>>119197017
Betteer question, how do you reach the pedals in your car while also being able to at least see through, or preferably over the steering wheel?
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>>119197076
Not that guy but I'm 5'7".
The same way women do.
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>>119196812
For real? Man I guess I really could beat that little faggot in a fight.
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>>119197118
Letting somebody else drive the car?
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>>119197076
Joke's on you, I don't have a driver's license
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>>119197076
I'm 5'1" and I have no problem driving.
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>being obsessed with something you have no control over
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Thought provoking themes.
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Deep plot and storytelling.
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>>119197076
A better question would be what kind of car are you driving that makes you think someone arararagi's height wouldn't be able to see over the steering.
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>>119197059
>>119197033
>>119197076
Isn't 5'6 is like slightly less than avarage height for males in europe?
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>>119198027
Maybe if you are living in Russia or another third world European country.
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>>119198027
>Isn't 5'6 is like slightly less than avarage height for females in europe?

FTFW
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>>119196642
>That animation
Only for the first 20 minutes, then it's season 2 all over again.
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So what does everyone think of ClareN
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HNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGG
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>>119198565
You are right, especially scenes like >>119196877
Where the characters look like boxes

Let's see how the Blurays turn out
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Would you protect her from the ground?
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>>119198729
Yeah, Shinobu was perfect in this scene. And then later with those pseudo-horns. Got a screencap of that?
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>>119198782
I want a lot more of her
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>>119198798
No, I'm too distracted by how cute Shinobu is.
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Does Kagenui actually think she could take on a full power Shinobu?
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>>119196642
Overrated pretentious shit
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>>119199005
ok
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>Shinobu will never cover for you
Why is she so awesome?
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>>119197076
How do you think grrrls drive when that's taller then their average height?
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>>119199115
One sitting on the other's shoulders.
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So how much more will shaft animate?
The movie and one more season?
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When are good subs coming out?
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>>119199141
Everything.
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>>119198973
I don't think she does, but making it look like she's scared would only make things worse.
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I don't get it, do his sisters seriously lust over this chode, or is it just his Vampire Charisma at work?

I started re watching the entire series before Tsuki came out and I'm still not sure. and why can't 3d sisters be like 2d imoutos?
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>>119198924
I loved the scene where she told him she'd turn him into a full vampire if he was about to die.
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>>119199279
He doesn't have that power, they even addressed it before.
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>>119199279
They've always wanted the araragi.
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>>119199279
Women ain't nothing but bitches and hos

2D women aren't real and can be ideal

We have had this conversation before
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>>119199279
Araragi doesn't have vampire charm, he's just naturally like that.

Imagine if he did have it.
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>>119197076
you can adjust the car seat?
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>>119198635
It sounds the same.
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>Tsuki
>good
>Hana
>bad

0/10
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>>119199765
That one annoying kanbarufag detected.
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>>119198737
Not sure if trolling, or rather I know you're trolling, but I think the first part was well animated for shaft's standard
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>>119199807
Man, as a Kanbarufag even I'm ashamed of that anon's opinion. Hanamonogatari was good for character development and a few little things but overall Tsuki was just better.
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>>119199807
I don't even like Kanbaru, Tsuki was just bad and Shinobu was the only noteworthy thing about it.
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Just finished watching, best Monogatari since Bake, 10/10 OST fucking when.
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>>119199765

Hana is bad because too many lesbians.
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I'm wondering how the "vampires don't reflect" thing works now. Obviously the sun light hits his body and he has a shadow. This means on the physics side, he is still normal. But then the reflection part, which is fundamentally the same principle as seeing him/having shadows, is broken. Is the physics in Araragi universe broken or did the writer not know about physics?
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>>119199917
>...but overall Tsuki was just better.

refer to:
>>119199279
>>119198924
>>119197292

Tsuki had visuals and PLOT, Hana had those too, but a better story and characters to boot. I'm by no means saying Kanbaru/ lesbian girl are better then Yotsugi/ Shinobu by any stretch of the imagination, but her episode was far more interesting then Tsukis plot.
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>>119196642
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>>119200032
It's literally magic.
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>>119200032
Bringing up physics in a metaphors-are-literal universe.
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I liked both. Hana had better themes and plot. Tsuki had better fanservice and worldbuilding.
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>>119199578
international standards are nice for communicating across different cultures but different cultures have their own traditions and when we are talking about specific cultures we should take that into account
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>>119200032
>trying to autistically explain vampire powers
>in Monogatari
I think you missed the entire point of this series.
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>>119200032
As long as people believe the legend states they don't, they don't.
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>>119200032
The "No Reflection" thing has been ripped off since Dracula and probably before, Stoker said that it is because vampires are unholy beings that don't have light work the same way for them.
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>>119200039
The last part of Tsuki is all build up for later parts. All in all, it's not about being a standalone story but rather to start connect the dots.
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Dat Hitagi at the end

Best girl
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>>119200039
Tsuki is obvious foreshadowing for what is about to go down, I haven't even read the fucking novels and I caught that
meanwhile Hana is literally a side-story for Kanbaru development

it also had better visuals than Hana, and much more fanservice
I wasn't impressed by anything back then
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>>119196812
this is the internet.
We all make over $100,000 a year, have 9 inch dicks and are all 6'4''+
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Would you abuse the Yotsu?
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>>119200063
SHAFT confirmed for bro
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>>119200039
I'm ignoring the fanservice-y parts in both deliberately because I know I can't contain my bias and I'll just give all my points to Hanamonogatari. So I have to remove them to get a better look at the other things they did, like overall impact on the world.

Tsukimonogatari expanded the Exorcists for us who have been an integral part of the series as a whole from both the foreground and behind the scenes.
It was also Yozuru's Koimonogatari. That story which gave us another way to view her. True, it didn't go in as far as Koi did into Kaiki's thoughts but it gave us a clearer view of how nice she can be without losing sight of her job as solidified with her proclamation to Araragi that "I don't use my powers on humans".
To Yozuru, while she's self-righteous, she is still self-aware enough to at least keep normal humans out of it.
Tsuki was the booster shot Yozuru needed.
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>>119200294
Little girls aren't allowed to work.
Little girls don't need 9 inches.
Little girls are little.
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So will we get the next book animated before or after Kizu?
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Why did no one like Hana? I thought it was great.
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>>119200284
Ougi is araragi, to beat ougi they have to reveal her true identity.
She sticked a snail-like oddity to oshino and thats why he's missing
Oshino saves ougi by keeping up the lie that its his niece.
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>>119200294
I disagree
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>>119200294
Butthurt manlet detected
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>>119200365
Kana asumi doing a monologue for like 30 minutes was enough to put me to sleep.

Numachi isn't all that interesting. Kaiki and ararararagi were the highlights.
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>>119200307
No
Never
Why would even ask that?
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>>119200307
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>>119200373
Why the fuck are you randomly posting spoilers when literally nobody asked you to?
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>>119200454
>use spoiler tags
>dont expect spoilers
Speaks for the misuse of spoiler tags.
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These episodes had some good faces
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>>119200365
Numachi's speech brought down the story a bit. While she was necessary for Kanbaru's development. She was basically out of nowhere and she droned on for 1 1/2 episodes. Now we all love Nisio talking but this wasn't the usual back and forth banter. It was one girl speaking and that's difficult to make interesting.
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>>119200063
wut
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Shinobu and Gahara were perfect this time around. My fucking heart.
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>>119200450
Is there any greater joy than bullying the little girl?
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>>119200307
No. I'd do other things to her.
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>>119200564

If by little girl you mean imouto, then I'd have no reason not to concur
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>>119198973
Oshino and three gangbangers did it
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>All that blue and orange contrast
Cheap
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Fucking hell there's so much damn Monogatari shit coming out now, I didn't even see the last two announced.
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>>119200743
Sneaky heart steal probably won't work twice.
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>>119198973
Depends. She would probably fight a Full-powered, non-suicidal Kiss-shot just to get off but I don't think she's so unaware that she wouldn't know she wouldn't get absolutely fucked up.

The fact she shit-talks Shinobu is fucking amazing. Even if she's just the former-Kiss-shot. She's still got the potential to revert and Shinobu is probably going to remember that upstart to gave her lip
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Full OP February 4th

Get hype
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>>119200760
>not liking orange mint
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>>119200772
>He doesn't have an RSS reader built into his torrent client
Step it up
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>>119198973
Given that alternate timeline where Shinobu destroyed the world when Araragi died, I'm gonna say "no"
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>>119200373
>he thinks this is my first week on /a/
you're way late with those spoilers buddy
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I can't get enough of Monogatari, it's so good.

>>119200032
It's magic, they don't have to explain shit.
>>119200373
Well, fuck you then.
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Why is there no good Monogatari Manga? I'm too pleb to read a page of words, and the anime seems to admit all the important details.

Why does Japan do this?
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>Shinobu will not allow Araragi to die
Shinobu-end confirmed
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Don't mind me, just posting best girl
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>>119201013
The manga will read like this. If that's how you want your manga, you may as well just read the LN
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>>119201013
Wouldn't a manga omit even more details? I mean you can fit more words into an anime than a manga unless you plan on going full CAD tier.
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>>119201036
She doesn't do a very good job in mayoi hell
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>>119201036
But anon, Hitagi End was already confirmed
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What does he see /a/?

No seriously, what do they have on her figurine?
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>>119201110
Hitagi is mortal, Araragi is not.
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>>119201110

Hitagi end isn't the END, if you catch my drift
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>>119201146
lewd underwear.
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Who is the wizard's seiyuu? He sounded like Takehito Koyasu.
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>>119201110
Hitagi isn't immortal

>implying she isn't fucking Kaiki whenever Araragi's doing lewd shit with sisters or loli slaves
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So is there a way to filter posts that use spoiler tags?
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>>119201146

Atleast it will be more pure the Shinobus scale.

Also, what was with this episode and name dropping figurines? They did it for the Fire sisters, Yotsugi, and Kagenui.
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>>119201230
Why cant jewt just allow fucking sound already?

>>119201241
Yeah, dont look at them you tremendous autist.
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I wish Donuts had been voiced by Aya, her voice isn't lewd enough.
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>>119201241

Stop looking at them you imbecile.
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>>119201146
Whats the best pantsu?

Nopan
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>>119201102
And that had such tragic consequences.
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>>119201177
>>119201195

Didn't think people wouldn't actually get the pun.

>>119201182
I choose to pretend I don't understand. Explain to me as you would an immortal loli explaining the concept of a possibly expanded lifespan to her servant.
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>>119201241
if you have a web dev addon of some kind then block the <s> tag.
>>119201321
Shinobu best pantsu
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>>119201013
A ploy for high quality doujins, and it's obviously working.
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>>119200819

Then again, Oshino managed to steal Kiss-shot's fucking heart without her even noticing. And Kagenui is the strongest specialist, an expert in exterminating immortal oddities. I wouldn't be too sure about the result.
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>>119201331
It was so fucking stupid that people pretended you were being serious, because that would reflect better on your intelligence.
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>>119201230
standard resolution
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>>119201282
Pre-order now, only at ANIPLEX+!
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>>119201362
Oshino stole the heart from a depressed Kiss-shot. She was basically at her weakest mentally. If Kiss-shot existed now that she's gone through her character development and decided she actually wants to live again, Yozuru wouldn't stand a chance.

If Yozuru had been in Kizumonogatari instead of Oshino, I think she could have actually probably brute-forced her way into getting the heart successfully but Kizu was heavily influenced by the fact Kiss-shot wasn't really giving that many fucks about living.
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>>119201362
Then again, they got wiped in the alternate timeline. Their success before was because Kiss-Shot was actively trying to die.
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>>119200307
I would abuse her holes.
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>>119198798
Here
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>>119196877
I didn't even release that was Tsukihi's op when i first watched it you're blowing my mind
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>>119201466
Yes.

It's a great scene. Yotsugi had to kill a man to show everyone she's a monster, but for Shinobu words are enough.
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>>119201524
I don't think that declaring your protection of someone is exactly monsterish, but then again I'm a massive Shinobufag.
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>>119201442
>Then again, they got wiped in the alternate timeline.

There they had to fight all of humanity turned zombies, in addition to Kiss-shot herself.
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>>119201524
>>119201667
If the wizard was the only one as powerful as Kagenui and Ononoki one shotted him. A weak Shinobu could beat her easily.

My question, why didn't they just BTFO Kagenui if he comes a vamp again?
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>>119201830
That sort of implies they didn't realize it was happening until it was already over, which makes no sense, considering how crazily informed they all are about everything. It implies they could do nothing to stop her.
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>>119196723
>no Mechazawa
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>>119201875
Kagenui seems awfully confident about her ability to take on vampires, so it's unsettling to them. It's not something you want to try.
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>>119201875
They never said Tadatsuru was as powerful as Yozuru, they said he was an immortal oddity hunter like Yozuru and that the parallels come from that.

Also Yozuru probably has a way to deal with oddities like Araragi who aren't used to their powers. We know she can take a Teen Shinobu-level Araragi in a straight fight and that's around the level he was when he fought I think either Episode or Guillotinecutter.
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>>119201910
Well yea, that was the whole point of Gaen setting up their time travel arc, simply because when she kills Araragi later she didn't want Shinobu destroying the world.
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>>119201875
He didn't really put much of a fight, because I think he wanted her to kill him.
The last second you can see him smile.
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>>119201969
Wouldn't that just make Shinobu kill Gaen and company without destroying the world as collateral damage?
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>>119202237
Shinobu was a bit upset and got carried away.
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How is this shit subbed already?
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>>119202418
DAISUKI did it.
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>>119200246

She was the perfect way to end it.

Such a great arc.
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>>119202418
It got subbed last year.
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>>119202459
>DAISUKI
dropped
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>>119202530
Yeah, the subs are shit. But they tell you what is going on.
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Its good. My dick was so hard I had to take breaks watching all of it.

Can't wait for all those Ononoki doujins.
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>>119202625
It's not easy to translate shit like 鬼いちゃん.
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>>119202625
>>119202665
Also Shinobu speaks in somewhat old Japanese and Yodzuru in Kansai-ish dialect.
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>>119197138
>Ararafit being defeated by some /a/utist
Don't think so.
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>>119202665
"demon big brother"
It doesn't keep the pun, but it isn't fucking stupid like "big demo-ther".
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>>119202848
Why not keep is as
>Oni~chan
or
>Oni i~chan
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>>119202955
because anime fans are illiterate
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>>119202955
That's valid if you assume exposure to a decent amount of Japanese language. I don't think it's wise for commercial translations to assume that.
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>>119200307
Never, I would dress like her and act as her funny sidekick.
Of course we would do lewd things every once in a while.
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>>119203065
To counter my own point: it's a translation for Monogatari, which probably isn't going to be enjoyable if you don't have a baseline knowledge of Japanese. So I guess "Oni-chan" is fine.
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So what's the worst arc so far and why is it Karen Bee
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Tsukihi just keeps getting better and better, didn't think it would be possible
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>>119203179
Not even close, Nadeko snake was really shitty.
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>>119203179

Nah, it's totally Neko.
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>>119203151
>it's a translation for Monogatari, which probably isn't going to be enjoyable if you don't have a baseline knowledge of Japanese

That's a baseless assumptionlly. Ultimately you can use notes to convey what subs eloquently can't. And it's not like notes are an uncommon practice even outside anime.
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>>119203337
Tsukihi was always good, the only people who have thought otherwise were filthy secondaries.
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>>119203344
but it had best girl in it, how can it be bad?
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>>119203179
Nadeko snake when it was airing.
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>>119203179
Nadeko Snake was the worst. Nadeko wasn't even a main character in her own arc
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>>119203428
Go away snakefag.
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>>119203344
No, just no.
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Why did Tsukihi start saying nya?
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>>119203486
make me, catfag
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>>119203507
Maybe she found a stray cat?
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>>119203428
>>119203496
You are posting images from medusa.

We are talking about snake.
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>>119203622
snakefags btfo
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>>119203507
Nisio's been watching too much Love Live.

Fu~nya
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I laughed at this for a couple minutes
Why was it so funny
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>>119203622
>>119203637
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>>119203622
Snake was pretty iffy on the quality when it aired, I remember that. Plus, I'll be the first to admit that Nadeko wasn't one of my favorite characters until Koimono.
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I wanna see suruga court animated real bad.

Glorious kanbaru in a frilly outfit playing basketball.
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>>119203760
I'm still surprised she had her own futon when the girls were staying over
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>>119203760
Gothic Lolita Kanbaru slam jamming Araragi. I'd watch that.
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>>119203755
Snake was almost all stills when it aired.

On top of that it was only a really short setup arc for Hanekawa's and the events of Nise.
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>>119196642

No nipples, into the trash.
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>>119200373
Fuck.
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>>119203898
I don't think that was a deliberate choice. I think she only put out two futons assuming one of the girls would roll over to her side at some point.

Araragi questions why there isn't three futons knowing that Kanbaru was trying to get up in his Imouto Game.
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>>119202472
Dad stop telling lame jokes
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>>119203899
Gothic Lolita Kanbaru telling Ararararagi to poar teh tea.
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>>119203977
Rozen Suruga. It's just a show about a bunch of Kanbaru dolls playing basketball and drinking tea. The only way to become the Rozen Suruga is to slam the other dolls so hard in a basketball match that they give up on living
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So, Owari when?
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>>119201282
I believe those lines are verbatim from the novel. Blame Nisio's penchant for being meta.
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>>119204765
Kizu: We aren't going to be able to animate this!

Or something along those lines.
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>>119203179
>Karen Bee
It had the toothbrush scene, it can't be the worst arc.
This arc was boring the story-wise imo.
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Dayum son, dat whole fucking bath scene. My boner was pleased.
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>>119204801
Yeah that was the running joke of Kizu, he kept trying to write things that were impossible to animate or show on TV
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>>119204855
Toothbrush scene was part of Tsukihi Phoenix
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>>119203408
she has terrible personality
she would break your finger just because you pissed her off a bit.
she is sexy but that's all going for her
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>>119203065
Yeah, but they leave "shikigami" and "tsukumogami" untranslated without ever defining them, so I'm chalking it up to a lack of competence.

Many of the lines were poorly worded or worded so awkwardly as to change the meaning drastically.
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not enough of Kagenui's feet
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>>119204855
>>119204927
Bee had the Ragi mouthing his sister to take her sickness. It also had fire sisters sleeping nude. Or the fight scene between Koyomi and Karen.

I think
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>>119204861
You just know that they're going to bitch out on Kiss-shots memory technique.

>Hey bro, stick your hand in your head and swish that bitch around. That's the best way to remember something.
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>>119204927
Oh yeah? I see
But still Karen bee was good enough because the kiss/implied sex for Karen's fever.
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Post more Yotsu nikkas
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>>119204801
Our when Hitagi said her seiyuu was excellent before an anime was even in production. Not that she's wrong, mind you.
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>>119205093
Oh that Nisio. What will he do next?
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>Nadeko mentioned

Fucking dropped.
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>You will never be Hitagi's Koykoyo

Why live?
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>>119203179
hana or the cat one
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>>119204765
Shinobu and Araragi had a long talk about how Araragi was watching precure despite the season that he was watching hadn't came out in the year that the LN was set in yet.

Or Hitagi talking about how her and Hanekawa really bonded doing the audio commentary for Bakemonogatari.
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>>119205439
oh come on

at least make the skirt darker
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>>119204958
Could she stand on the ground if she wore a pair of really long shoes?
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Does Tsuki take place before or after Hana?
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>>119204946
>Yeah, but they leave "shikigami" and "tsukumogami" untranslated without ever defining them, so I'm chalking it up to a lack of competence.
There is no English equivalent. They are special magic creatures of Buddhist and Shinto origin respectively. There is no way to translate without cliff-notes.

tsukumogami is Buddist in origin, changing its meaning over time but in general relate to the idea that really old inanimate objects, usually made by humans, can become alive and sentient. Many Japanese monsters are tsukumogami, with the classic one being an umbrella with one eye and long tongue.

Shikigami is Shinto, and is a type of magic servant created by Onmyojis, Japanese Sorcerers. Shikigami are inanimate objects deliberately infused with sous via magic and become servants. The traditional portrayal is of origami humanoids made of paper, as you saw near the end of the show.

Try to explain these two terms via translation alone is impossible.
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>>119205589
Before. They talk about snake's incident and being out of the hospital.

Also, you don't see araragi with a gay car and getup.

Why is this so hard to understand?
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>>119203179
Hana or Nadeko Snake.

Hana was more boring while Nadeko Snake was terrible from a production perspective.
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>>119205649
i havent seen it yet
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>>119204946
Who cares? It's not like anyone's watching monogatari for the narrative
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Does hair cutting signifiy the lose of virignity? That cutting scene at the end of hana was too lewd.
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>>119205696
>siblings
those guys are over being siblings.
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>>119196675
>>119196714
>>119196723
>>119200063
>>119200312
>>119200497
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>>119205724
This would make sense but nobody ever fucks Nadeko or Tsubasa
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>>119205696
>freak out about being a vampire
>suddenly, imouto wants the D
Well.

>>119205724
It signifies personality change
Except when it comes to Tsuhiki
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>>119205724
No its character development
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>>119205724
Nisio has a hair cutting fetish
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>>119205724
It signifies a sense of change. Linked with the seasons of agriculture, a fundamental principle of modern human. When you cut the hair, you are asking for a change in not only appearance but also mentally.

Or in Buddhism, cutting hair signifies letting go of the past.
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>>119205696
>average laundry room leads into fuckhuge bathroom
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>>119200321
Yozuru was present in Tsuki like twice, comparing it to Koi in that aspect is ridiculous.

Specialists played a bigger role than usual but we learned very little about them comparatively.
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>>119205790
>implying Nadeko doesn't fuck herself

She has plenty of snakes, Anon, she doesn't need something as silly as a man or penis.
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>>119205869
When I have my own house, I'm building a bathroom like that.
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>>119205869
rich people
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>>119205869
It's not real, anon.
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>>119205869
It's exaggerated.

It's actually just average size.
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>>119205869
>It is not a bath as spacious as the anime version, or rather it is an average sized bath for an average family
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>>119205869
The fourth-wall breaking text cards address that, specifically saying the anime version is much larger than the average bathroom imagined by the author.
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>>119199765
Hana was subpar because it was just listening to that boring dead girl talk about boring shit for two hours.
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>>119205986
If the two would've made out at least once, Hana would've shot close to the top of the arc list.

They really should've drawn out that attraction/tension between them.
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>>119200032
Physics doesn't mean shit in monogatari. It's apparent right from the first episode with Hitagi weighing only 5kg.
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>>119206066
Hana was way too drawn out as it is. If anything they needed to cut 30 or 40 minutes off of it and replace ghost girl talking about herself with, as you said, more tension and attraction.
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>>119205763
sakura a qt
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>>119205984
>[ALL CAPS]
still waiting for commie
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>>119206066
They do make out though. During the ED. Though I get what you mean, they really should have pulled their shit together and made the Kanbaru/Numachi sexual tension actually tintillating/canon
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>>119206154
Daisuki > Commie
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>>119206146
Numachis long ass monologue was the only time I ever felt bored watching Monogatari.
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Why don't people like hana? I thought it was a pretty great arc, I'd even say it was better than/equal to tsuki .
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>>119201051

Great scene. Shinobu was so fucking cute throughout. Tsukihi and Youtsugi-chan were also very adorable. Great overall.

Not much going on as far as really important or interesting plot, and the animation was hit or miss, great sometimes, and a little lazy in other places, (but that's SHAFT for you, and I love them anyway,) but all the girls were cute, Kagenui was badass and elegant as usual, and good God DAT FANSERVICE was just fucking choice.
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>>119200032
>I'm wondering how the "vampires don't reflect" thing works now.
Monogatari world works via human belief. Reality changes depending on human culture.

In real life, the reflect myth came from the fact that mirrors were once coated with silver, and silver is anti-evil. Also there is another interpretation of saying the mirror shows the soul, and that vampire don't have souls.

None of that matters in Monogatari though, as their rules are very well defined; if enough humans believe in it, then it comes true. If people stop believing, or change their belief, the truth becomes undone and evolve to something else.
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>>119206338
Lack of yuri
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>>119206241
That was the OP, it just played at the end
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>>119206338
As the thread has stated. Numachi's long ass monologue. That's pretty much it. Normally Monogatari is pretty solid on how it dishes out information but that just dragged on something fierce. At least we got Kaiki before it and Araragi after it.

It was the second time in my entire life where I was actually excited to see Araragi, the first time was Neko White when he became a bad motherfucker and one-hit an oddity of Kako's level while being actually, legitimately, cool as fuck. Like Oshino levels of cool for that one moment.
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>>119206338
It's not that I don't like hana. It's just that it doesn't live up to the rest of the series. I still enjoyed it. It just could've been so much better.
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>>119205763
Who are the girls in brown uniforms?
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>>119206338
It didn't to the work to get its audience invested in the Kanbaru-Numachi dynamic, then dragged like hell in the middle as Numachi has a massive monologue with few interesting visuals to back it up. Conversely, during the long info dump in Tsukimonogatari, the visuals frequently cut to Shinobu and Yotsugi playing in the background which keeps things entertaining throughout.
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I'm sick of all this fighting over the girls, I'll just take Kagenui and go sit in a tree somewhere.
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>>119206414
Oh, that actually was? My downloads have it as OP as well but I distinctly remember it being at the end so I figured they fucked up and just misnamed the OP and ED.

Putting it at the start would have been a terrible idea if it wasn't canon. It'd just be setting up for a relationship that never happens in show
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>>119206338
Too much yuri.
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>Body of a middle schooler.
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/a/ doesn't like Numachi? Plebs.
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>>119200063
I miss Snail.
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>>119206594
I hope you like pegging
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>>119206676
Kazumi anime when?
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>>119206702
Who doesn't?
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>>119206606
Yeah, the ED always have the stylized characters like>>119198635
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>>119206676
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>>119206793
People who aren't gay.
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>>119206829
Six years, it's taken me that long to realize all the ED are in the same style. That'll teach me to be shit-tier and skip the EDs after watching the once
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>>119203937
Shaft has never done nipples except with Ef.
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>>119206338
I liked Hana, and I thought it was a great adaption and very well animated.

It's just one of the weaker novels. Nomachi isn't that interesting of a character and she got a ton of screen time. And the actual themes weren't that interesting, and frankly, as much as I love Kanbaru, she's just not very entertaining as a narrator.
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>>119206830
RRRG should tap that.
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>>119206492
Hidamaris I guess.
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>>119206906
Shinobu had nipples
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>>119206906
Popotan had them.
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>>119206830
>>119206676

I don't know their ages but my 13 year old imouto confirms this.
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It's definitely one of the best *gataris. Real fun
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>>119207100
If Karen is about to start high school then she's 14 or 15, and Tsukihi is a year younger
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So, is Tsuki's ED the best Monogatari ED? At least in terms of animation, I think it tops the rest of them.
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>>119207206
best one was still Bake for me
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Why don't Karen and Tsuki consent to a threesome since they both want Ararararagi so much?
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>>119197292
>>119197332
>buy the bds.exe
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>>119207206

Bake's the best, I think.

Tsuki's was great, too.
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>>119207292
because they're siblings
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>>119207206
Who are some of these people supposed to be?

From top left to right, it looks like Hanekawa, Senjougahara, Nadeko (?) Kanbaru

Then bottom left to right, Yozuru, blank, Oshino, Kaiki, Ougi(?)
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>>119198973
Doubtful. And the audience knows even a team up of Oshino, Kagenui and Kaiki would die like dogs.
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>>119207307
Not going to lie... I'm sold.
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>>119207292
my meat expands to a size larger than the universe.
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>>119207292
>sharing things with youre sister/sibling
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Could anyone make a webm of Arararagi shaking the maracas?
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>>119198973
No.
A serious Heart Underblade can't be beaten.
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>>119201051
The entire frog scene was adorable.
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Kaiki was the only interesting part of Hana.

Goddamn is Kanbaru boring.
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>>119206906
Vampire Bund had tons of nipples, even vampire loli nipples. But we don't like to remember that it exists.
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>>119206906
>Shaft has never done nipples except with Ef.
so you didn't watch Bakemonogatari ep2?

cause we got crabnipple in her shower scene.
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>>119207824
That was a bellybutton.
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>watching any of the gataris
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>>119207868
>That was a bellybutton.
uhhhh
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next monogatari when?
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>>119207934
Never. SHAFT has decided they want to stop printing money and make off like bandits while the goings is good.
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I am getting sick of the fanservice.

I used to love Monogatari, but now I can only watch shows which fetishize moe and "healing" anime.

I am pretty sure the problem is just me, and not the show.
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>>119198635
I would buy the shit out of a life-sized figure like this
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>>119205869
You fucking pleb.
Laundry room is for maids and servants, they dont need extra space.
Bathroom on the other hand, is for me to enjoy,
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>>119196642
Why was the ending so shit?
Did the dude really die? It makes zero sense
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>>119208031
i know what you mean, but i meant WHEN? i thought there'd be a pv at then end of tsuki
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>>119208215
Obiously you don't know what he means.
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>>119208192
He died like a bitch. She killed him because she isn't human, and doesn't have the same moral trappings that a human would have. Though to be fair if some guy is trying to kill you and has kidnapped a bunch of people, I am pretty sure it is OK to fight back.
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>>119208215
I'd guess they'll probably aim for a second-half of the year adaption for Owari but I'm not really holding out any hope. SHAFT has made me a broken man by dashing my hopes one too many times.
They always produce good shit for Monogatari though and that restores a little of my faith every time.
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>>119208192
The ending was all set up for the rest of season 3, Tsuki isn't a fully 100% stand alone story, it's only the beginning of the end. They tell you this at the very beginning very clearly.

And yes the guy is dead, he realized he was being used as a pawn in a scheme to turn Koyomi into a vampire and chooses to be killed instead, and again, he straight up tells you this. Just because Koyomi responds "durr I'm dense I don't get it" doesn't mean you have to be dense and not get it either.

What you're not told yet is who this person is that is using the hermit as a pawn and their motives; though I can guarantee you can at least guess the who.
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>>119208192
What was so difficult to understand? He literally told you what he was doing.
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>>119208377
You're not going to say Ougi, are you? Based on the spoilers ITT about who Ougi is that doesn't make sense. How would Ougi know who that dude was and use him as a pawn if they hadn't met him before?
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>>119208377
Where do you think S3 will take place in the timeline? Before or after Hana?
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>>119201830
Are you retarded? Before Kissshot started making an army, her rage was still limited to Araragi's town.

Oshino's letter was written when him and the other exorcists were gonna attempt to stop Kissshot at Ground Zero aka Araragi's town but they failed and Kissshot was free to move past Ground Zero and end the world.

I thought plebs like you were gone from these threads already but apparently there are Oshinofags who don't read Kizu or did read Kizu but ignore everything they read, afterwards.
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>>119208842
Everything is before Hana, Hana is the chronological end.
We were thankfully spared multiple viewings of the douchemobile
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>>119208842
Before Hana. Hana is last in the series chronologically.
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>>119198973
Not really. I think Kagenui just views Kisshot as the ultimate final boss, the masterpiece of all immortals.

She probably just wants to fight Kissshot just for the sake of it before Old Age and creaky bones start catching up to her.
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I have two questions.
What exactly is the "Unlimited Rulebook?"

and

What is the significance of the cross shape that appears on Kagenui, Yotsugi, and the other specialists?
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>>119208886
>>119208943
Ah okay.
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>>119208943
>>119208886
>Araragi doesn't die
I want a refund
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>>119205649
Araragi was suppose to already have long hair right now.
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>>119209005
Unlimited Rulebook. A rulebook mostly filled with exceptions.

Also for the cross thing. I think those are supposed to represent birds
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>>119209158
araragi does die

but then he gets resurrected
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>>119209158
>Araragi doesn't die

I never said that.
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>>119209158
Why would you want Araragi to die? Also SHAFT doesn't give refunds, you can't get your virginity back after getting SHAFT'd
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>>119207933
>>119207868
Pic? I don't have bake downloaded anymore
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>>119205439

so, yotsuba was walpurguer burger.
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>>119209382
10/10 bellybutton
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>>119209382
go to a streaming site and skip through the video you stupid shota
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>>119209572
What an ugly nipple.
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>>119209158
>snakefags
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>>119209572
the thumbnail looks like a girl with short brown hair blending into the peachy colored background
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>>119209382
Figured I go look for the belly button scene. Completely forget Senjougahara's ass ripples when she smacks it.
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>>119208886
>>119208943
>Last chronological moment of the series is Ararararagi cutting Monkey's hair
I agree with other anon, I want a refund.
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>>119209652
Are the other girls there references as well?
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>>119209652
Are you serious?
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>>119205869
>not wanting to have a bathroom just like the Araragi's
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>>119209652

I think some are from Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei.
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>>119209652
so that's why the two on the right are grossed out by Araragi's charm
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>>119209652
Sayaka confirmed lewdest girl.

Already has a box full of pocky sticks she wants to feed Araragi with, with her own mouth.

Kyouko impatiently already has a pocky stick in her mouth.

Meanwhile, Madoka and Homura want to join but are too shy.

The big question is what happened to Mami when Araragi is a known Tits Man?
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>>119210046
>Grossed out

Madoka is literally praying for the strength to stay lesbian in Araragi's presence. No amount of time-travel by Homura is going to stop "The Straightening of Madoka Kaname"
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>>119210075

lets not get aHead of ourselves...
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>>119209652
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>>119201195
>Implying Kikey isn't dead
everyone in Hana was a ghost except Araragi of course
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>Your face when Shaft are such cheap faggots that they were too lazy to give Kanbaru's grandma a character design and just had Kanbaru's eyeball show the Japanese word for grandma.

>Your face when no Monogatari GILF porn because of this.

>Also, your face when no doujin of Araragi groping the breasts of every girl in his high school because of the rumors Kanbaru spread.
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Tsukihi is cute as fuck with super long hair.
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>>119210374
>mfw
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>>119210414
about these webms, i don't really know how to make one myself but, has anyone made a webm of the snowball/fireball fight between shinobu and yotsugi?
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>>119210075
Do you think they would introduce a big breasted younger girl to their older brother?

She would steal him from them in an instant.
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>>119210487
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>>119210670
thanks anon
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>>119205763
magicacrossover
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What is this scene trying to convey?
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>>119210425
Araragi encounters Kanbaru's grandma all the time. Kanbaru's grandma caught Kanbaru showing her ass to Araragi.

Shaft never bothered to animate this.
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>>119208484
Watch it first then brag.>>119208842
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>>119210670
Yotsugi confirmed more violent than Shinobu.
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>>119209652
We've already been through this
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>>119210755
Yup and? She's overall unimportant and basically only good for shaming Kanbaru about being naked in her room and cooking delicious meals.
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>Wow.
I didn't know I liked doll so much. Sorry for not noticing her earlier, /a/.
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>>119210715
A fantasy of mine.
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>>119210075
>The big question is what happened to Mami when Araragi is a known Tits Man?
she lost her head
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>>119210715
It conveys muh dick to diamonds

>Shinobu BDSM doujinshi never
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>>119210715
Its trying to flare up the masochist in me
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>>119210895
How come Tsukihi didn't return the favor and help wash Araragi?
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>>119210946
Did you even watch it? She washed him first.
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>>119196812
Average asian male height in Japan is pretty much that so it's not like he's particularly short.

Also considering the guy has an 8 pack I doubt he worries.
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Why was Shinobu full St Patrick's day
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>>119210670
So damn cute
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>>119210946
She did, and before Erorogi washed her
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Why didn't Shaft animate Tsukihi's scenes in Neko, then? Too hardcore for them?

What's wrong with Araragi playing with Tsukihi's breasts using his feet?

Or discussing her underwear collection?
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>>119209652
Would Araragi have let Madoka sacrifice herself much less the other girls?
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for fucks sake i just realized unlimited rulebook is an obvious play off unlimited bladeworks
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>>119211056
>Why didn't Shaft animate Tsukihi's scenes in Neko, then? Too hardcore for them?
Elaborate.
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>>119211056
because that was like 35% of the ln and people would get bored of an entire episode being spent in the same room
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>>119205977
Third Wall Breaking.
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>>119196812
HahA. Fucking 1.65 meters.
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I wish Araragi was strong enough to embarrass Kagenui but he's not even fast enough to steal her bra.

Maybe Araragi could try stealing Kagenui's shoes and see if she would become helpless.
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>>119211132
Its not. It only shares one word. It basically makes her finger into a weapon.
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>Kiss-shot is overpowered
>Kiss-shot can create anything
>Kiss-shot can create kai, humans, blood packs
>Araragi and Kiss-shot can live on as vampires without killing or hurting anyone
>But they don't
Why?
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>>119209005
>What exactly is the "Unlimited Rulebook?"
The name is just a funny terms.
The attack is just the Doll detonating her body selectively, and then near instantly regenerate the damage bodypart. Think of it like an exploding zombie bomb, but that she can chain cast it. And we found out that she can use it as a method of propulsion.
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>>119211139
>and people would get bored of an entire episode being spent in the same room

But an entire episode was spent talking between a Tiger and a Cat and the Tiger barely moved.
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Where is this in the timeline? Behind Hanamonogatari?
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>>119211256
So Senjougahara can win.
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>>119211256
He wants to be human.
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>>119211281
After second season and before Hana.
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>>119211292
Why?
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>>119211292
>He wants to be human
>abuses his vampire powers all the time
>to the point of him turning more into a vampire
He just doesn't want to hurt anyone, but Kiss-shot has a solution for that.
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>>119203744
i fucking loved araragi in these episodes
Best MC for sure
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>I have the SHAFTest boner right now
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>>119209005
>What is the si
gnificance of the cross shape that appears on Kagenui, Yotsugi, and the other specialists?
>>119204946
>shikigami
Paper golems. Pic related, their appearance in the Spirited Away film.
Doll is essentiall a golem made of human flesh rather than paper.
http://spiritedaway.wikia.com/wiki/Shikigami
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>>119211235
He did embarrass Yozuru, he fucking wrecked her entire life philosophy and forced her to consider that the petty villain Kaiki had enough of a point that she should probably act more like Oshino in how she deals with shit.

He'd never be able to embarrass her any other way but proving to her she's being a hypocritical little shit is the best you're going to get.

Given how she treats Shinobu, the former King of Oddities, I think Araragi getting his ass kicked and still getting Yozuru to admit defeat was an astounding win.
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>>119211256
I don't think it was said at any time she can create humans or blood, no.
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>>119200523
This captured the dollface so well
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>>119211256
>>Araragi and Kiss-shot can live on as vampires without killing or hurting anyone

That can't happen. They have to eat.
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Karen and Tsukihi looked awfully happy about him walking in on them changing.
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>>119211256
>Kiss-shot can create kai, humans, blood packs
Where the hell are you getting that from?

Also technically any group of people can create kai.
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>>119211477
We all know that they are both huge brocons.
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>>119211427
>>119211486
Kiss-Shot can create matter.
Humans are made of matter.
口 Kiss-shot can create humans

>>119211440
>They have to eat.
Yea, humans that Kiss-shot can create.
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>>119211477
Is Araragi /fa/?
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>>119211533
>>119211477
Someone needs to stop this man.
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>>119211256
>>Kiss-shot can create kai, humans, blood packs
That has never been shown. You can't make humans via magic, as humans ARE the source of magic.
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>>119205696
how does he do it /a/?
how do he have det wilpower to not wanna fuck his sisters all the time?
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>>119211598
I doubt she can create a soul, therefore she can create just a bunch of meat
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>>119211533
Convenient their brother is a massive siscon.
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>>119211600
No, he is /fit/
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>>119211598
>Humans are made of matter.
>口 Kiss-shot can create humans
Nope. Humans has psychic powers that generate all magic in the world. That power is what gives Oddities their abilities, thus Kiss Shot can make matter, but magic can't make magic.
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>>119211292
Read Kizu
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>>119211600
Well he's better now that he's not wearing those gay short-sleeved hoodies anymore.
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>>119205869
SHAFT aesthetics.
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>>119210715
Araragi lied about having donuts and Shinobu was angry.
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>>119210715
Remember she feels what he feels

Turn on inception
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>>119211655
He's failing pretty hard, he's basically doing everything short of getting his dick wet.
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>>119211664
>I doubt she can create a soul
Do you really need a soul for physical sustenance?

>>119211689
> magic can't make magic.
How do they regenerate instantly then?
Checkmate.
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>>119211598
You're acting under the assumption that Monogatari humans are identical to actual humans, which obviously isn't the case given that they're the ones who create supernatural creatures like Kiss-shot in the first place.

Besides, even if she didn't need to kill humans, she would still do so because that's what vampires are meant to do.
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>>119211256
did you even read kizu? boredom kills the man. nobody wants to live forever, so they choose to hang onto mortality
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>>119211655
>How does he have the willpower to not want to fuck his sisters
He doesn't
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>>119211751
>Do you really need a soul for physical sustenance?
It isn't physical sustenance. You don't get it; Vampires exist because people believe it. Vampires drink blood because people believe it. Sustenance has nothing to do with it. She either does it properly or the Darkness would go after her.

>>119211751
>How do they regenerate instantly then?
>Checkmate.
They regenerate instantly because people believe they do. Once again, humans fuel that, externally.
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>>119211751
She only needs blood because humans imagined her as such.

Besides she needs blood to do vampire things, if she used up a shit-ton of blood only to make up blood it wouldn't get anywhere.
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>>119211751
you gotta remember why gods are believed to exist, because people believe they do

if 0 people believe in a god then the god doesnt exist
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>>119210895
SO. FUCKING. KAWAII
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>>119210715
I wish we got more submissive Araragi, it's one of my favorite aspects of their relationship.
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>>119196642
It's the time again, where I have to leave /a/ for a week waiting for Commie to do proper subs
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>>119211956
>Submissive Araragi
>Not the scene where Yozuru makes Shinobu humble just by apologizing to her
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>>119196877
http://a.pomf.se/grngts.html

This is fucking glorious
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>>119212010
I can watch this forever
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>>119212010
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>>119211839
>>119211916
Kiss-shot has been proven to regenerate ordinary humans, herself, and her servant. She can definitely create or at least replicate a human.

She then uses that replication as food and all other human's who see her eat would be none the wiser; therefore fulfilling all her conditions as a vampire.

>>119211783
>Monogatari humans are identical to actual humans
You are going to have to explain further. Where in the series have you seen a monogatari human and a regular human?

>>119211888
> if she used up a shit-ton of blood only to make up blood
She has infinite power (unless her power is supressed). She needs to feed every 2 weeks, no matter how much or how little power she uses. There is no ratio or even evidence that she uses her blood to create things. Use the fight scene in Kizu for a reference.
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>>119205696
I was seriously expecting Karen to jump in for a 3-way or something. Oh well.
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>>119212140
ENHANCE
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>all the lewd pics of Tsukihi, Karen, Ononoki
yea yea yea but now lets get to the part that is REALLY important
Araragis fucking 8 pack
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>>119200373
I'm high as balls anyway so Iwon't even remember those spoilers.
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>>119212261
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>>119212261
this guy get it
>nobody has posted a highres pic of this yet
i thought i knew you /a/
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when I win da lotto, I'm building this fucking bathroom
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>>119199279
>That erected ahoge for the entire scene
>Symbolism for her being turned on
Shaft knows my dick better than I do.
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>>119212347
damn son
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>>119212347
No wonder this guy has so many bitches lusting over his cock. Arararararararagi is truly a master.
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>>119212261
>>119212347
I-I'm not gay, I swear
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>>119212222
>There is no ratio or even evidence that she uses her blood to create things
Araragi requires her blood to heal serious injuries, she required his blood to materialize different clothes and to grow up a bit.
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>>119212005
That scene is only good for how Araragi steps in, tells off Yozuru, and helps Shinobu with some mental gymnastics in order to keep her pride.
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>>119212419
>>119212447
>>119212459

Araragi lucked out by becoming a vampire. Even if he never gets to use his powers again, he's still going to be ripped for the rest of his life and he can get any bitch he wants if he takes his shirt off.
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>>119212222
Let me tell you why it won't work: because a vampire that creates its own humans to feed on feels like cheating, or something that isn't really a vampire. With the way kaii work in Monogatari, this perception is what defines possibility for Kiss-Shot.
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>>119212222
Stop pulling shit out of your ass, son
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>>119212494
Yozuru was completely happy to destroy Shinobu's newly built up pride though. The fact is, Yozuru destroyed Shinobu in that banter and it was amazing. Beating the Queen of Smug with just her verbal skills alone.
She did to Shinobu what Araragi did to her. Talked her into defeat.
Like you said, it took Araragi to even convince Shinobu that she was protecting him to keep her pride.
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>>119212347
just think of the steaks you could make on those things.
>i have never utter a more homosesual phrase in my life
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>>119212347
>Senjougahara gets to lick these abs as much as she wants
She's a lucky girl.
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>>119212594
if im right in saying, its like blowing into the sails on your ship whilst still being on it, right?
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>>119197033
We barely can, that's why we're bad drivers, WEEP WOOP
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>>119212594
>>119212692
Though I don't necessarily agree with him, I understand what he's saying.

Basically, all you have to do is to keep up the illusion. So, even if you get nowhere blowing onto the sails of the ship you're on, the sails will still make it look like you're moving to those people far away - and that's all you're trying to accomplish.
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>>119211256
Read Kizu you idiot
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>>119212660
It's alright, anon. It's not gay. Just say its Vampiric Charisma like Hanekawa said

>>119212683
If Araragi was just a few inches taller, she would have lucked out. No-one can be that lucky
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>>119212493
They are both very close to just regular humans. Shinobu doesn't suck his blood to heal wounds or materialize things, she does so they both become more vampire. As their vampirism grows, they get stronger.

>>119212594
>feels like cheating
> perception is what defines
Its human's who create kaiis. So if Kiss-shot replicates a human and eats it in front of another human, that human is of course going to perceive her eating a human. Its the human's perception of Kiss-shot as a vampire that matters. It doesn't matter whether the kaii itself feels like it is cheating or not.

So basically, it should work.
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g-guys. guys? GUYS
i think i like Tsukihi more then Karen now
is that bad?
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>>119212800
Even if that technically worked for sustenance, which I doubt it would, Kurayami would destroy any vampire that tried to because they're not acting as vampires.
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>>119212877
Same.
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>>119212877
Yes, you've just got a case of Hype and you'll just need to wait a few days to wait for it to die down before you can safely check yourself before you wreck yourself. A stapler in the mouth is bad for your health
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>>119212877
It makes sense. Even after rewatching the series a fuckload of times, this is the first time I feel like I've gotten a hold on who Tsukihi is, just because she's finally gotten enough screen time to be a solid character.
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>>119212877
No. You're just a bandwagoner.
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>>119212493
>Araragi requires her blood to heal serious injuries
Vampire blood heals wounds.
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>>119212877
I still like Arab Tsukihi the most
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>>119212883
>Kurayami would destroy any vampire that tried to because they're not acting as vampires.
To the human's perception, Kiss-shot would be fulfilling all conditions of being a vampire.

Besides, Kiss-shot has already proven that she doesn't have most of the vampire's weaknesses. This means she is already going against the human idea of what a vampire is; yet Kurayami doesn't go after her.

So if she half-cheats and creates her own food, since she is still fulfilling a large amount of properties of a vampire, Kurayami shouldn't go after her.
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>>119212861
>Shinobu doesn't suck his blood to heal wounds or materialize things, she does so they both become more vampire. As their vampirism grows, they get stronger.
Read the LN fag, Shinobu needed his blood to make glasses and the little girl uniform in Kabuki.

Araragi has needed her blood to regenerate quite a few times.
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>>119213008
this
also
long haired master race
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>>119213008
There was a lot of Tsukihi in Neko, well supposed to be, that is.
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>>119211256
Araragi mentioned this himself. He made an oath to not become a vampire no matter what, but knew it wasn't an oath he really believed in. The whole deal with Yotsugi was to show what it means to be a monster and not a human. Go back and watch the scene where Araragi drops Yotsugis skirt and think about what's going on there
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>>119212861
>So if Kiss-shot replicates a human and eats it in front of another human,
You assume that the replicate human is even human. It is very clear that the Monogatari humans are NOT just a bundle of meat, they are in essence, the real gods of their own universe.
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>>119213132
>Shinobu needed his blood to make glasses and the little girl uniform in Kabuki.
No. She needed his blood so she could become more of a vampire so she could make glasses and the little girl uniform in Kabuki.

>Araragi has needed her blood to regenerate quite a few times.
No. Araragi has never needed her blood.
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>>119197033
blocks of wood and duct tape, what else?
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>>119213101
No human thought Mayoi was shirking her duties. All the humans around to witness Kiss-Shot acting as a goddess thought that she was actually a goddess. They still got chased down by Kurayami.

Why are you trying so hard to decide that canon doesn't work the way that it works?
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>>119213101
>Besides, Kiss-shot has already proven that she doesn't have most of the vampire's weaknesses. This means she is already going against the human idea of what a vampire is
Actually no. Day-walkers are a known class of vampires. The original Dracula of the novel was a day walker. And Shinobu isn't immune to sunlight, she just regenerates as fast as she is being burned.
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>30 minutes of pure fanservice, just araragi and sister lusting for each others in the bath
>suddenly 1 hour of INFO DUMP INFO DUMP and fuckloads of overcomplicated plot

jesus christ what a mess, this is why LN adaptations are always shit
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>>119213132
Read Kizu. For the week Araragi was a vampire and used his powers for various fights and regeneration, did he have to suck blood even once? No. Did his power seem to weaken at all? No. Your argument is a fallacy.
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>>119210895

hhhhggggggggnnnnn
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>>119213241
>mfw 6' even and my car is so tiny, my knees hit the steering wheel when I drive, even with my seat as far back as it can go


>>119213295
To be fair, Araragi was a servant of a vampire, not necessarily one himself.
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>>119213295
For as long as Araragi was a servant, he was as power as Heart Under Blade. And Hear Under Blade DID feed in the novel.
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>>119213225
>No. Araragi has never needed her blood.
He would have died without it in Neko.
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>>119213342
Didn't Shinobu drink his blood?
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>>119213101
I don't understand why you are trying to find loopholes in this. The Monogatari world is alive, it doesn't run on rules. It doesn't matter if you try to be a lawyer and reason your way around regulations, the Darkness always have the final say and will simply reject your logic and substitute its own. The human hive mind will do what it wants, all you can do is go along with it.
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I always assumed that "カ カ カ” was a sound effect which sounded completely different than what the syllabary implies.

Is Shinobu doing some sort of joke, or is that really supposed to represent haughty laughter?
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>>119213287
>watching monogatari
>this sort of thing surprising you
Whatever fag.
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>>119213422
It's supposed to represent haughty, old-fashioned, laughter.
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>>119213332
>To be fair, Araragi was a servant of a vampire, not necessarily one himself.
He was a vampire. He was explicitly stated to be a vampire.

>>119213342
see
>>119213045
It's not because he needed her blood. It's just like in Kizu when Araragi used his own blood to save Hanekawa.
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>>119213422
>Is Shinobu doing some sort of joke, or is that really supposed to represent haughty laughter?
Laughing is undignified. So instead of actually laugh, she laugh in an artificial fashion to basically say "I want to laugh at you, but I am too high class to do that so here is a "kaka!""
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>>119213422
>leg blocking butt view
goddamnit
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>>119213295
>Telling someone to read Kizu when you clearly haven't
He didn't need to suck blood because Shinobu couldn't do it, her body lost the ability to until she regained her limbs
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>>119213557
Bad for screencaps, good for watching it animated as she crosses and uncrosses her legs.
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>>119213422
Why did shinobu look so pale there? Makeup?

That's adorable.
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>>119213556
Ah. That sounds about right, thanks.
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>>119213422
It has something to do with studio recording mics. The actual sound is more like a sharp, punctuated exhalation of breath, which would end up being picked up like you were blowing into a microphone.

Instead they emulate it by making a 'similar' sound with a hard consonant. In this case it's intentionally exaggerated for comical effect
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>>119213627
I would love to see her with a bit of lipstick
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>>119213627
I am pretty sure it is the ambient lighting, since the moonlight was quite luminous.
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>>119213249
Everyone that could see Mayoi were not getting lost. Thats why Kurayami came after her.

>>119213341
So Araragi who used his powers didn't need blood, and Kiss-shot who didn't use her powers needed blood. Your argument is still a fallacy my good man.

>>119213421
Just having a bit of fun exploring the universe is all. By picking apart this universe, everyone, myself included, acquires a deeper understanding of how the monogatari universe works.

In the end, it doesn't matter because Shinobu never went through with it. But its interesting to know the possibility exists.

>>119213609
>He didn't need to suck blood
I was including the last fight where Kiss-shot had her full power. Besides, Oshino kept asking Araragi if he was hungry and hinted that he should be becoming hungry soon. Keep in mind this was all during the period Kiss-shot was not at full strength.

Re-read Kizu if you haven't already.
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>>119213748
Kiss-Shot couldn't suck blood, they mention this tons of times dumbass, Oshino flat out says it.

Once she regains the ability is when Araragi began to hunger for blood.
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>>119213748
>Just having a bit of fun exploring the universe is all. By picking apart this universe, everyone, myself included, acquires a deeper understanding of how the monogatari universe works.
>
>In the end, it doesn't matter because Shinobu never went through with it. But its interesting to know the possibility exists.
Your issue is that you assume the rules are external to humans. That the rules are rational, consistent, and fixed.

It isn't. The Monogatari rules are arbitrary, and randomly changes over time in a nonsensical fashion. This is because the rules are effectively created by the equivalent of 4chan /b/ consensus. Memes and culture just don't function that reliably. Specialists are basically those who understand the crazy rules and try to push that to their advantage, but they can only do so much to resist the might of the human hive mind.
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>>119213871
"I may separate, but I don't scheme. Ah, that's right, Araragi-kun, I ask you this just out of interest, lately, haven't you been hungry?"

"Hm? Well -- I think I said it before, but since I became a vampire, maybe it's the immortality, I don't have much appetite."

"Ah, I see."

"Is something wrong with that?"

"Is it? Well, just everything."

"Everything..."

"Well, I just thought it must have been time for you to get hungry. At any rate, two weeks passed already -- hahaha. Must have been hard. ......See you, Araragi-kun. When you safely return a human, take care not to act rashly again. The person who happened to meet a Kaii once, after that becomes easy to attract, so be careful."

While talking -- without even returning the chair to its original place, Oshino went out of the room, leaving me still seated.

"Hey, what is it -- don't talk like you were leaving this place."

"I am leaving. The job is finished -- looking more like a failure, but still, what's finished is finished, what has ended has ended. Ah, that's right, Araragi-kun. About your share of two million yen and class rep-chan's share of three million yen, a total of five million yen, let's say we're even." {chara = forgiving a debt}

"Fl...flippant? {flippant = charai}

"Hey wait, that would be me. Even I said, even. Offsetting each other. My failure, and Heartunderblade's heart -- well, that much might be enough, but it's a free service."


Taken from before he returned Kiss-shot's heart. Re-read Kizu you fucking moron.
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>>119214100
>"Practically, the current her looks like she only has the ability to regenerate. She used up her skills to form that body, it appears she has completely lost even her essential faculty of blood sucking."
Anon please
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>dirty dishes with chocolate
obvious implied sex at end of hitagi scene
i think araragi destroyed hitagi in the ass
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>>119212005
The juxtaposition of Shinobu being humble is only cute because of the existence of great dominance scenes.
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>>119213748
You're really attached to a theory that's full of holes, but original idea is has some interesting consequences if you scale it back. Take the fact that even in her sealed form, Shinobu can materialize objects, and so she could probably create donuts for herself whenever she felt like it. However, she doesn't do this and instead waits for Araragi to get them for her. This implies that Shinobu prioritizes getting a gift from Araragi over having donuts.
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>>119213145
i have a huge thing for short haired girls though, you meanie!
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>>119214286
>Valentines day
>Tell your GF how you molested your sister in the bath
>start talking about how you wish you could see your actual crush
>She tells you to shut up and fuck her
I like it
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>>119214024
I try to understand that it is the humans who make the rules for kaii. Since human's ideologies are forever changing, it makes since that the rules are not set in stone.

But does this mean a kaii cannot deceive a human? They could be following the human ideology of them with deceit and continue with these loopholes in the system.

I apologize if I'm missing something.

>>119214336
This is true, but for that particular instance, it makes sense because she wants to see Araragi caring for her. There must be a line that shouldn't be crossed, and the instance you just stated is probably a good example of when not to use that power.

But the benefits outweigh the cost in my example where she can live forever with Araragi (if they aren't already going to that is).

>>119214187
Yes, she lost her powers because of her weakened state. But when she gained them, did Araragi get stronger? No. He stayed the same strength from when he woke up on the first day. It took him 2 weeks to get hungry which is pretty normal for vampires.
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>>119213609
>she crosses and uncrosses her legs.
Why is there still no webm of this? At least in none of the three threads I've seen so far.
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>>119214653
>But does this mean a kaii cannot deceive a human? They could be following the human ideology of them with deceit and continue with these loopholes in the system.
A Kaii can deceive a human, but that has nothing to do with what the human hive mind believes.

As I mentioned as an example, you can, in real life, become the King of France if you convince ENOUGH people that you are the King of France. But what's the odds of that?
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Hanamonogatari with no Rouka>Tsukimonogatari>>>>>>>>>>>Shit>>>>>>>Hanamonogatari with Rouka
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>>119212005
I have mixed feelings about that scene, on one hand it's cute because Shinobu bullying, on the other hand Yozuru's basically bullying someone who is mentally a child.
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>>119214825
But Kiss-shot is already known as the legendary vampire.

To put it in your example, you and everyone else knows you are the king of France. You can keep your position as long as you only do kingly things. But as long as you don't show the people the un-kingly things you do, people will still perceive you as a true king of France.

So by this way, Kiss-shot could pursue her everlasting love life with Araragi while still upholding her position as King.
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>>119213627
Shinobu's always been deliciously pale.
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>>119215111
>mentally a child
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>>119215111
Shes not, she just acts that way because its how Araragi views her.
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Subtle
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>>119215249
Araragi sees her as a cute little girl, so it causes her personality to change to be more like that of a little girl. They've explained this on like 3 occasions.

It's not like Yozuru outwitted Shinobu verbally or anything along those lines, she simply disrespected Shinobu and rubbed her face in it while they were at her mercy due to Araragi's situation. It was just a harsher version of Yotsugi's trash talking.
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>>119215185
>But as long as you don't show the people the un-kingly things you do, people will still perceive you as a true king of France.
The Darkness knows. Everything is powered by the hivemind, so the hivemind knows what its powers are being used for. Individual humans don't need to know, but the hivemind does. And you can't try to change the view of humans quickly enough or fast enough before the Darkness deletes you.
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>>119215378
What?
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>>119215604
devil horns
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>>119215493
>hivemind
This is where it starts to get fuzzy. Even if a few people know she is faking feeding and calling her a liar, is that really enough to compare to the rest of the hive? And if she can completely fool the hive, will the darkness still punish her for lying?

Human minds are not connected to each other, but they can share the same ideas. Araragi wasn't enough to make the darkness go after Hachikuji, it was that she completely stopped being the lost cow and even helped people find their way. This shows that there is some room for lies as long as it doesn't affect a significant amount of the hive.

I realize these are questions that probably can't be answered.
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>>119216073
DEEP symbolism
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>>119216073
There is something wrong with that pillar. It shouldn't that far out.
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>>119215746
>This shows that there is some room for lies as long as it doesn't affect a significant amount of the hive.
Basically, it is like trolling on 4chan. You can break forum rules in minor ways occasionally and get away with it. But once you try to blatantly break rules to your own advantage, the moderators will come and hammer you ass to the wall.

The example of suggesting that Heart Under Blade should try to synthesize humans to consume is one such attempt to break the system. The Darkness won't allow it because it is clearly an attempt to subvert the system, and the ban hammer will appear. The rules are not like human laws; they are guidelines, and just because you "technically" obey the rules doesn't shield you from the consequences of cheating. The Monogatari world has a Moderator, and he is pretty unforgiving.
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>>119216481
It's a bit of a fisheye view
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