DRAGON, DRAGON ROCK THE DRAGON DRAGON BALL Z

>English DragonBall Z opening
>not English DragonBall opening
Absolute pleb tier

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>>119134111
>kiddy adventure shit

The only reason to watch DB was to check on Tien/Yamcha/Krillin/Piccolo's background.

>>119134302
>kiddy adventure shit

This reaffirms your shit taste

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>>119134478
If I want to have that kind of style, I'd watch Pokémon.

>>119134624
>muh mature anime

I bet you're an anime only faggot

>>119134694
>anime

You mean 'cartoon'.

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>>119134302
>>119134624

This is a troll right? No one could possibly believe that Dragon Ball is a serious & mature show

>>119134111
>>119134302
>not br dbz

>>119134916
That's not what I'm saying.

DBZ is action-packed and violent, and that's the charm of it.

DB is just another generic "let's go on an adventure" show, of which there are tons of.

>>119134977
You know it's all the same thing right? The Z is just an arbitrary name change at a certain point of the story.

DB turned violent as soon as Tao Pai Pai showed up. Even moreso once Daimao entered the picture.

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>>119134977
DB was actually good though.

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>>119135113
It's not the same though. Most characters in DB were goofy and small.

Z became more serious.

>>119135413
Serious how? Because people started yelling at the top of their lungs for several episodes?

>>119133965
thanks doc

>>119135569
Ne because of powerlevel asspulls, people getting revived, and oppenents that could take down planets

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>>119135569
Aliens, entire planets being destroyed, more death, destruction.

And yes, the screaming and powering up.

I know this word has lost all its meaning but I'm still gonna say it: DBZ was EPIC. There was nothing like it. It contains the most powerful beings of all fiction.

>>119133965
>ROCK THE DRAGON
What the shit does this even mean?

>>119135856
lmfaolmfaolmfaolmfaolmfao


Please read more western comics, and watch more anime and manga.

I can name 2 people off the top of my head that are x100000000 stronger than any shitter from DBZ

Wanda aka Scarlet Witch
Kami Tenchi

Fuck you, kid.

>>119135856
>It contains the most powerful beings of all fiction.
Somethingsomething demonbane.

Also, God in certain holy texts, depending on what you'd call "fiction".

>>119135942
What does CHA LA HEAD CHA LA mean?

>>119135856
Get over yourself, kid.
DB was better than Z
All the movies literally make no sense in the timeline
The most epic moment of DBZ is everthing Majin Vegeta, and still, that even is that "epic"

>>119133965
I don't think that Faulconer did that song, was it Mark Menza who did it?

>>119134302
giving a fuck about small frys

>>119134977
>let's go on an adventure" show, of which there are tons of.
name a few pls. ones that are not a total piece of shit

Possibly my second favourite english dub opening.

The best however has to be this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qLl145FqQg

>>119136346
I'm a perfectionist so I need to absorb as much knowledge as perfect.

If that means quickly glancing over DB to understand who the fuck Tien/Yamcha/Krillin are then I'll do it.

DB is like a prequel. It's the background for DBZ, which is the real thing.

>>119135949
no need to be mad :3

>>119136074
the pleasure of being cummed inside...
woah that was stupid hahaha

>>119136465
*tips fedora*
hahaha

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>>119136465

The sad thing is there are actually people that believe this.

>>119136081
Shuki Levy. Faulconer and Menza didn't hop on until Funi started doing the dub and music in-house. Menza did the guitar OP for the movies that gets used on every release now.

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>>119136581
>*tips fedora*

You weebs are the minority.

Most of the world grew up with the superior Funimation Toonami Bruce Faulconer DBZ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxhrlC13u5U

Eat your heart out.

>>119136675
Yes, I am aware of Menza and Faulconer's involvement in the show, I've just never heard of this Shuki Levy fellow. What version of the show did this come from?

>>119136703
>Most of the world

You know that literally every country has had Dragon Ball, right? The US is the only one with rewritten characters and replacement music.

Plus your childhood isn't a good excuse for altering a piece of culture. The US reversioning had its time and place but that's no reason to just ignore or discredit the original version.

>>119136771
From the early part of Z, when Funi edited the episodes and had Ocean doing the voices. Shuki Levy and some other guy did the replacement score up until Goku arrived on Namek.

And when Funi went back to do do the uncut version of those episodes they had a guy Nathan Johnson do it whose dronefest of a score was even worse than Faulconer's,

>>119136703
>Most of the world grew up with the superior Funimation Toonami Bruce Faulconer DBZ.

you what?

>>119136703
only murricans grew up with that shit.

broly is stronger than perfect cell

>>119134977
>muh action

>>119136790
I'm from Europe and grew up with the American version. My country didn't have its own local dub.

You purists should stop acting like the original is flawless. It's fucking terrible. Just because the Japanese created it doesn't mean their version is the best.

>effeminate asian voices over masculine men
Japan should stick to drawing and animating, let the voices and music be done by America.

>>119136991

niigers

>>119136991
cell can blow the planet and kill broly

>>119137036

cell wouldn't blow up the planet, he was scared of goku threatening to blow it up

Post one thing better that Dragon Ball did better than DBZ.

pro tip: you can`t

>>119137031
If you think 'masculinity' ever entered Toriyama's mind when he was writing Dragon Ball you're off your rocker.

>>119137086
Ability to be forgotten by a good amount of the fanbase even though it's the beginning of the story.

Thanks Toei

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>>119137096
>DBZ characters
>not ripped as fuck

>>119137076
if he has to blow it to win the fight he would.
cell didn`t want goku to blow it up, because that would end his fun. not kill him.

>>119136703
>Most of the world grew up with the superior Funimation Toonami Bruce Faulconer DBZ.

You mean thankfully only the US had to suffer with the worst version of DBZ?

>>119137086

Character development
Character design
Writing
Fight choreography

>>119137153
Ripped is one thing. But the characters aren't written to be manly or anything. It's not Fist of the North Star or Jojo. It's a martial arts adventure manga where the powers rose to absurd heights written by a guy with a fondness for poop jokes.

>>119137186
bet he thinks murrican card captor sakura was the superior version too.

>>119137153
>not ripped as fuck

Literally all of the most powerful characters are either bony or fat.

I bet you think broly is good character design too right?

>>119137201
>Fight choreography
db was plaged be 3frames fight too. fuck off

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>>119137186
I'm not from America and I got the Funi dub.

Glad I grew up with that instead of the terrible grandma-Goku, cringe-worthy Jap screams and non-existant music.

>>119133965
>Be Young
>Watching DBZ
>Finally down to Goku vs Freiza
>Next Day
>Arrival of Raditz
FUCK

>>119137086
Dragon Ball had a better dub than DBZ

>>119137180

broly can blow up planets too though so what is your point?

>>119137086
>Pacing
>Worldbuilding
>Humor
>Character designs
>Every character aside from Goku got screentime unlike DBZ: The Saiyan Edition
>Fight choreography
>Creativity
>Human characters could actually match and beat Goku

>>119137274
I'm sorry that you suffer from Stockholm syndrome

>>119137289
hate that shit, when I was a kid anime of 13-26 episodes on tv could last 3 years before you reached the last episode.
in my country they just reached detective conan episode 129 or so (when haibara joins the group) fuck

>>119137086
Character Development.

>>119137365
that he would die you fucking faggot, and cell would win the fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z6yGbkaxkY

dragon ball was funny as fuck

>>119137451

Saiyans can breathe in space what are you talking about? Goku once held his breath for 3 weeks straight

>>119137395
It was the worst when i was 10 i was stuck in the saiyan saga for 2 years then i was stuck on fucking namek for the next 5 years. Mom would ask me what was going on and i would be like "i'm still on Namek mom"

>>119137516
>first episode of Kai litterally shows Bardock floating in space

>>119137378
>Character designs
in db they were all fat
>Creativity
bunch of random garbage on screen is not creativity,

DBZ was enjoyable until Frieza saga ended. Just throwing that out there.

>>119137544
That was more like the stratosphere. Besides, the Bardock special was filler anyway.

>>119137516
>sure. that`s why goku used a spacesuit right?

>>119137567
>he didn't enjoy the insanely fun Majin Buu Saga

>>119137544
>kai

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>>119135949
>lmfaolmfaolmfaolmfaolmfao

>I'm supposed to take this comment seriously

>>119137567
you're correct Frieza was the climax of the series; Andriod Saga wasnt bad since they were still in the mind set that everyone was still useful it wasnt until the Buu Saga where everyone you enjoyed to watch fight was either dead or on the bench.

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>>119137641
>liking filler

>>119137589

The first 10 seconds of the Broly movie show him destroying a galaxy star by star what's your point he's clearly FTL

>>119137641
Kai is better than Z, come at me.

>>119137698
God Tier:
>Driving school
>23rd Tenkaichi training episodes
>22nd Tenkaichi training episodes

High Tier:
>Kuririn rounding up the troops in the Saiyan arc
>Saiyan training episodes
>Gohan in high school
>Next World tournament

Mid Tier:
>Pilaf's flying fortress
>Wedding dress arc

Low Tier:
>Gregory
>anything with Haiya Dragon
>anything Bulma does on Namek
>Fake Namek
>Goku and Namu looking for the Roaming Lake

Shit Tier:
>Garlic Jr. arc

>>119137698
>Not Liking the Driver License Episode
The filler was the only time DBZ felt like Dragonball.

http://youtu.be/4wG84efH4sw?list=FLAxP-jlIUkqc8yTT9X4szWw

best dub

>>119137739

Well duh, you can actually watch the namek saga without growing old.

>>119137840
That's not Big Green

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>>119137767
What about this?

>>119137739
>>119137698
liking censored shit

>>119137892
Oh yeah, should add that to the list. Probably mid. Cyborg arc only had the one training episode in addition to the driving school one.

>>119137911
Kai isn't censored except for the Makankosappo hole left in Raditz and Goku. Yes, it's censored on TV -- surprise! Z was too.

>>119137911
>liking baby dicks

>>119137957
The problem is, nobody can go through fucking Z in this day and age.

That's like watching all episodes of Star Trek, it's impossible. You'll get bored/fatigued/burned out before you reach the end.

Kai just gets straight to the point, and it's finishable.

>>119137739
No shit, its literally half the length of Z and has a much better dub.

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>>119138007

>>119138123
On TV -- and only certain stations at that. On DVD/BD everything is uncensored.

>>119138123
>CW

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>>119138123
Here's a Toonami edit of DBZ back when it aired too.

>>119138071
There's only about 250 episodes of DBZ.
Kai is better, but I'm sure you can manage a 250 ep series

>>119138201
153 for DB, 291 for DBZ

Unless you're a huge fan you're better off reading the manga.

>>119138200

What the fuck am I looking at

>>119138366
Saban helped Funi pay to air DBZ when it first aired, so they called the shots with censorship. I guess Tullece grabbing Gohan's face was a no-go.

>>119137274
>Glad I grew up with that instead of the terrible grandma-Goku, cringe-worthy Jap screams and non-existant music.
Pleb.

>I like the version I watched first. I am incapable of judging quality from an objective standpoint even though I am 24 years old.
I say again: Pleb.

>>119138422

I mean what did the original shot look like?

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>>119138366
Apparently its too violent to hold a child's eyes open in the US

>>119138201
The whole point of watching DBZ as a kid, is because it`s unwatchable as an adult.

Watch DBZ as a kid, bask in the nostalgia, call Kai shit because it`s not like the original.

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>>119138454
See >>119138466

Have a Dragon Box version too

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>>119138430
Why do you want Goku to sound like a woman?
Why do you want power ups to sound like choking/throat-clearing?

This is screaming:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gZvQXNujuc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH_CcJ-uBWI

Not your Japanese "gggggghgghgghgg" sounds.

>there are actually people that think Japanese automatically = better and no other versions can top it

Case in point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kkMO4yjjXE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0H6-qS8K4E

>>119138885
I like the original version better because the characterizations, tone, and music are as the creators intended, not made into a cheap Doom music reject AMV with Superman dressed in orange as the main character.

>>119138683
Goku doesn't sound like a woman.
Goku sounds like a child with a slightly deeper register.
The only thing wrong with Nozawa's voice is that she is actually getting old. But back when DB/Z was airing, there was nothing wrong with her voice.

I should ask why you want Goku to sound like some surfer dude who doesn't even understand the character.
Schemmel on Goku:
>He needs to be a little bit like Cell, and he's learned his lesson from Freeza. There's not gonna be anymore of the "Ally to good, nightmare to you" business. Goku's fight is now more strategic than raw power. Goku's a real badass, and he's now become Shaft. :)

Nozawa on Goku:
>I think Goku is extremely pure, in the world of Dragon Ball, as he gets older. I just want him to keep his pure feelings and heart.

>>119138995
So you don't care how shitty the voices are?
That's like one of the most important fucking things.

You understand English, it's more relatable when characters talk English than in a foreign language.

>>119138683
why do you want a VA that can't act?

Unless is the Kai dub, all DBZ dubs were shit and painfully inaccurate

>>119139015
Funibros don't care about the intended characterization. They only care about childhood, Faulconer and 'badass manly characters.'

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>>119139054
>he can't comprehend tone in foreign languages
>he thinks 30 people in Texas who VA as a hobby is a better casting pool than 300 people in Japan who VA for a living

>>119139054
I like the voices. They go with the characters and the performances aren't horrid and flanderized like they are for 90% of the Z US broadcast dub.

And I can't relate to a Goku that spouts shit like 'ally to good, nightmare to you.'

>>119139107
MasakoX nails Goku way better than Schemmel ever did.
Goku is basically retarded in most aspects except fightan.

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>>119139195
Sorry but Japanese is an ugly language.

Why you'd find that shit fitting for DBZ is beyond me.

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I like DBZ Abridged more than actual DBZ and I don't know where to talk about it.

So yeah.

>>119139248
MasakoX's Goku is actually stunning. If he were doing the role seriously instead of as a parody I'd be 100% behind it.

>>119139319
>Sorry but Japanese is an ugly language.
Says the faggot on the imageboard all about Japanese cartoons.
>I'm not a weaboo, I swear!
Did your dad beat you for listening to J-Pop?

>You understand English, it's more relatable when characters talk English than in a foreign language

It's also easier to tell when the voice acting is shit.

This is how bad the old DBZ dub was.
http://youtu.be/L7fASqHz_eE.

>>119138995
But Deftones in a DBZ movie is way better than the original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7P2QOMhWgw

>>119139325
The one thing I like about Abridged is it gave likable characters to the side ones.

Like Burter and Jeice, or Nail, or Guru.

>>119139319
Probably because it was made in Japan, has huge Eastern influence and began as an adaptation of a Chinese fairy tale.

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>>119139416
>Talking shit on Movie 5's original soundtrack

oh no you didn't

>>119139325
That's because it is better.

Also the writers make fun of the english dub and use the japanese DBZ OST so its obvious what side they're on.

I've been watching Kai and really like it except for Goku's voice. His voice is fucking awful. I just don't understand why the Japanese would do that to their main character.

On the flip side, the voices of other characters, especially the women, are phenomenal. I also had no idea Vegeta is voiced by motherfucking REINHARD VON LOHENGRAMM.

SIEG KAISER.

>>119139500
damn right i fucking did

that chink music is shit

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I will just leave it here...

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>>119139503
>The parody of that 'hope of the universe' speech

Holy shit, it was excellent

>>119139409
How does Jap not sound ugly to you?
I assume you're either from America or Europe.

Their voices are cringey and weird. I'm not saying the English dub is flawless, but it's a hell of a lot more fitting to DBZ than effeminate "gggg" voices.

>all these plebs that can't understand why goku has the voice he does instead of the funimation crap

>>119139650
Enlighten us?

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Brian Drummond = Best Vegeta

Also

>watch DBZ religiously after school
>get to the Ginyu episodes
>Goku arrives, Jace and Berter are flying around him
>oh man what's going to happen next!!!!
>get home, anxiously turn on Toonami
>mfw it's the start of the Raditz saga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGUZKfFJq3Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQVov2BNIcw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnRgPN-ECB4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KCk2cN7xyI

Portuguese dub is the best

Reminder

Vegito > Bills

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>>119139416
>Talking shit about Cooler movie OST and Hinorobu Kageyama

>>119133965
>not being canadian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAOCnSKz-x8

So how the hell is freiza gonna be able to beat ssjg goku and vegeta in the upcoming film?

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>>119139758
Reminder

Gogeta > Vegito

>>119139668
Because he's still the same kid at heart. Not the superman protector of the peace that the dub makes him out to be.

Also, the scene with the Genki Dama against Kid Buu doesn't make any sense if his voice is different.

>>119139668
Because he's a 12 year old in a man's body.

>>119139668
>us
Fuck off, don't put all of us with your dumbass.

>>119139609
I'm sorry. I made a mistake.
I shouldn't have used past tense.
DOES your dad beat you for listening to J-Pop?

>>119139797

Gogeta is good against Villains of pure evil

But he'd get rekt against Bills

>>119139797

Not even close, what are you talking about?

Potarra fusion > dance fusion

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>There are people right now on /a/ think Goku should sound like an 80 year old woman

>>119139791
I'm Canadian and that intro song was fucking awful. Just awful.
I'm glad most of the Ocean dub is gone forever because it will never be reaired in the PVR era. That whole dub was just a pile of shit that owed its existence to CanCon.

>>119139797
The potara fusion is canonically stronger than the dance fusion.

Deal with it, nerd.

>>119139807
Sorry.

>>119139604

>I am the alpha and the amiga!

TFS are seriously great. It's a pity the first few episodes are so amateurish and terrible. The series really comes into its own during the Saiyan Saga and there's been hardly any drop in quality since. Even Cell is great.

>I'mma DRINK you now.

>>119136460
Is the jap version any good?

>>119139896
You are a pleb.

>>119139416
>deftones song in a DBZ movie

neat

>>119139952

No

>>119139823
What the fuck is J-Pop?

I don't speak weeb. Speak English.

>>119139952
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPWPd5d0sQk
It's probably one of the best Hayashibara anisongs.

>>119140035

Are you actually illiterate?

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>>119139551
>Saiyans are the Aggro inevitable tier 1 race
>Super Saiyan gives you unlimited Ki alongside other buffs
>No other race but Saiyans can transform at all. Not even Friezas
>Fighting is boring and untechnical as fuck
>Non destructable environments despite being a 3D fighting game
>No Android CaCs

dear god keep that garbage away from me

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>>119139896

nothing wrong with that

http://youtu.be/nc3sMudMw4k

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>>119140119
I'm sorry I don't speak your weeb gibberish.

>>119140035
He typed, feigning ignorance while a cold sweat broke on his forehead.
>Does this guy know me? Do I go to school with him?

>>119136465
>being this new

>>119140190
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>119140182
Then how did you find your way here from youtube?

>>119140126
>Non destructible environments is apparently a bad thing

Destructible environments reduce framerate, cause camera to act weird and is only a flashy background effect that no one cares about

>>119140165
That reminds me. Dub Frieza was actually some other hobbyist VA's mom, who he asked to come in and audition.
So anyone bitching about Nozawa should probably reevaluate that Frieza was dubbed by a woman in her 50s.

>>119139905
rock the dragon was even worse though

>>119140259
>Can he read my thoughts? HOW DID HE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING!?
In a panic, he changed tabs. There were new Naruto Shippuden AMVs to watch on Youtube. 4chan would have to wait until later, when he would regain his composure.

>>119140427
I browse other boards you fucking retard.

>>119140467
Rock the Dragon at least had that stupid guitar shit. Both suck, but ours sucked way harder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er1kOz5w9iE
Our DB opening was almost amusing with how badly written it was.

>>119140540
Would'nt you rather be spending New Years eve with your good friends on /b/ instead of in a strange new land full of weebs?

>>119133965
Superman speed blitz's goku and then breaks his jaw with his knee ending his pathetic life. Deal with it you shitty DBZ fags.

>>119140440
I prefer Kai Frieza, and where did you hear this?

>>119140637
low quality bait

>>119140610
jesus christ what the hell is that

>>119138466
>Uncut version
His face is weird because he's being grabbed in the face

>TV version
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FACE?

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>>119140617
I don't browse /b/, that shit's cancer.

>>119139325
My favorite episode right here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zsZLN3Xjhc

>>119140610
>implying the German DB opening isn't the best worst OP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0y_hmQf6X8

>>119140637
I read every single Superman comic there is but even i have to admit that Goku stomps superman. Superman at BEST is Perfect Cell level at BEST.

>>119139744
>0 replies

well it's your loss /a/. because you missed the chuckle of a lifetime

>>119140663
Common knowledge from when people bitched about Frieza sounding like an old woman as opposed to based velvet-voiced Ryusei Nakao.

>>119140637
Monster Carrot from Dragon Ball turns Superman into a Carrot and eats him because Superman has 0 Magic Resistance

>>119140754
take one to know one I guess.

Frieza was based in Kai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCWEPKZhgI8

>>119140801
what the fuck are you talking about? Superman could solo every goddamn person is dragon ball. Fuck off retard.

>>119140781
I think you mean Italian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd5v9UCvyac

Italians just made their own disco pop OP for everything that got dubbed.
It was all terrible, but some of it was okay.

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Hold on to your anus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ1NcxAZUYk

>>119140610
I love them both so much

but I'm also known to enjoy really terrible things for being terrible

>>119140781
I really like this actually it sort of reminds me of Nena

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Y'all niggas have delved so far into your hobby that you will defend any voicework that comes from Japan with your baseless "hurt durr emotions" argument. The Japanese dub was shit. Just like YuYu Hakusho's.

Save the pure, effeminate woman character voices for characters who aren't big ass niggas with bulbous muscles. DBZ isn't supposed to be well thought out. Its aliens throwing nukes at each other. Its pure senseless entertainment. Why should there be shitty Japanese voicework to accentuate "purity"?

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>>119140900
Whatever you say, tasteless weeaboo.