People like to say that manga is better than western comics because art and writing duties aren't divvied up between two people.
But doesn't it seem like the best manga artists are the ones that don't write? Japan doesn't seem all that different from America that way.
What some western comics lack is a consistency of a creative team. Pretty much just cape comics have the problem of the writer, the artist, or both being taken off the book at any time. This dilutes any long term creative visions. Corporate meddling can also interrupt the flow of the story, such as the current Deadpool run. Comics with a consistent team, like most Image comics, or comics written and drawn by the same person, such as Bone, tend to be of a better overall quality.
The issue is more that a manga series tends to stay in the hands of a single person for the duration of its run while western cape comics tend to change writers, constantly reboot, etc.
This is a huge misconception
Unless the artist or writer are badly received ongoing series won't see changes in staff for years.
A big problem western comics do have though are house styles (that pretty much kill improvement in favour of similarity) and some individuals being kept on pretty much indefinitely because of who they know and seniority.
>Unless the artist or writer are badly received ongoing series won't see changes in staff for years.
Not necessarily. It depends on how long the team want to stay on the book. People jizzed their pants over Warren Ellis and Declan Shalvey's Moon Knight, but they only stayed on the book for six issues.
>But doesn't it seem like the best manga artists are the ones that don't write?
No, not really. I'd say many of the best write their own stories. Daisuke Igarashi, Taiyou Matsumoto, Aki Irie, etc. Obata and Murata are good, but I don't think they're the best.
i think people get turned off by capeshit comics that dont stay in the hands of only one person or group.
Volume 1 Seeds of Destruction. Probably the weakest part of the series. It gets a lot better. Though if you don't like episodic short stories the next couple of volumes won't be your scene either.
Western comics as an industry is inferior by default due to the limited market consumer groups.
Can you imagine Marvel, DC, or Darkhorse being able to release a serial about cooking, american football, becoming an astronaut, formula racing, or rising through the corporate ranks?
Let's face it, western comics = japanese anime. You can list all the western indie/alternative comics in existence, but we all know only one genre thrive.
>Can you imagine Marvel, DC, or Darkhorse being able to release a serial about cooking, american football, becoming an astronaut, formula racing, or rising through the corporate ranks?
Hell, I remember a manga series about a daily life of a dentist. Western comics don't really have that kind of variety, do they?
It depends on where you go to read comics. The direct market (i.e. a comic book shop) isn't going to have much in the way of genre diversity, at least not in the breadth and quantity you're talking about. But if you factor webcomics and OGNs from publishers like Scholastic and First Second into the equation, the diversity of content increases dramatically.
Western comics would avoid it if they could, but it's easier to get the crappy artists who can shit out comics at light speed than paying the guys who have stuff worth of being framed.
I actually think the Deadpool run is the best at keeping things flowing well even during the company-wide events, notably by putting elements that won't be used until much later.
I think they tend to be better artists because it's all they do, but that doesn't mean someone that does both story and art can't be a good artist.
I mean shit, the majority of mangaka you look at when it comes to great art do both jobs.
>I mean shit, the majority of mangaka you look at when it comes to great art do both jobs.
Makes sense, really. They get control over what they want to draw by having control over the writing. Not sure I've ever seen a writer who went into art and was good at it, it's always the other way around.
>People like to say that manga is better than western comics because art and writing duties aren't divvied up between two people.
Literally no one says that.
On average, I agree with your assessment that on average manga with writers partnered with artists are better on average, on average.
Manga is better because the whole Japanese manga industry is closer to how indie comics work in the west: series and stories are not taken from their creators, but instead authors come up with new stuff (even if derivative) that they nurture by themselves. This has been mentioned already, but bears repeating.
Because a series is more creator-centric, that also means they tend to be finite. A story that ends, not a long-suffering soap opera universe.
Object A is guaranteed to make money. It's been making money for years and that trend isn't changing. It's also cheaper to produce because most characters, setting and overall plot has already been created.
Object B is completely new, it may do well but it'll most likely fail. It's expensive to write because everything's from scratch.
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This. How many permutations of Gundam, Dragon Ball, Evangelion, the Fate series, etc do we have to get before people realize that the shilling takes place on both sides of the ocean?
Im sure batman alone has more different series then all thse combined. And there is still a ton more variety in anime/manga. Not saying it desn't happen. Just far less.
It wasn't even a reboot as much as a remaster. It's not there are any changes to the plot outside of filler being removed.
It's not like comics where sometimes the Flash just runs fast and others he's literally fast itself.
That applies to the japanese industry too. A lot of folks milking a formula with a slight different twist, one note hacks, people abusing character archetypes, lazy designers cloning characters. There's tons of generic shit to every decent anime/manga.
Anime seems to be affected by it more than manga. A lot of anime are adaptations of already existing properties and of the few anime original series many model themselves after a game winning formula, such high school slice of lifes.