Rin and him seem to be naturals at being a couple while Sakura and Saber's need to have some extremely forced out of character circumstances for Shirou to want to bed them. Not even a Rinfag just watching UBW's anime made it even more blatant
Move away, bitch. There is a new submissive slut in town.
It doesn't have a chance of happening in those routes. But the contrived plot bullshit needed to have Shirou in love with Saber and Sakura while Rin's is natural means they've already lost anyway.
The cuck thing is just me being a dick.
But at the end of the Fate route, Rin is already deeply in love with him, and he likes her a lot.
She even started changing her scheduel to go to school with him, and chances are he is going to become a mage anyway, so he would still be around her 90% of the time, and he won the grail war, so he gets into clocktower for free.
Even with LE, it's possible to love multiple people, he could still love Rin, and have Saber in his heart and chase after her.
>Rin probably cucks her sister
Not even remotely possible. Hell, Sakura even makes fun of the fact Shirou and Rin are nervous around each other to hammer home that she comfortable with herself, and she has her man's heart.
That type of confidence probably sharpens Shirou's sword more than anything else. The shackles she had no longer bind her.
Excalibur pleases faries for money. Pure love coming through.
>having anything other than friendship
Maybe if you completely ignore relevance of Sakura to Shirou and how much more time they spend together and their relationship in general.
Sakura always being like a wife for Shirou, a family, even reason to live.
Rin don't really have anything to Shirou, she's at best good friend, she may be found of Shirou, but as she learns more about him she find him to be rather broken and can't really affect on any way.
Sakura and Shirou both are deeply broken people, as the one want to save those who didn't, and the other who wanted to be saved but never was.
Saber always feels wrong, unnatural, she can be a good partner in combat and friend as well.
Rin feels alot like maine heroine because she has a lot of screentime, but her relationship between Shirou don't have anything other then their battles.
>Rin and Shirou seem like the most natural couple
>In the route based around Rin
No fucking shit. In Fate Saber seems like the most natural choice because their ideals and attitudes towards themselves are very similar and they help each other achieve some level of self worth.
I honestly can't remember why Shirou has a stronger connection to Sakura in her route, been way too long since I read heaven's feel.
>route with Rin as maine heroine
>it feels like almost they have been perfect for each other
No shit sherlock, every route make each heroine to look like they have been perfect for each other.
I don't see what about them is more natural however, they never really feels like couple, just two buddies in a battlefield, she bascially a walking support/infodump, without her help Shirou would have serious problems.
He loves the three for different reasons. It changes depending on how the route develops.
CM2 even says that Saber is Shirou's soulmate, Rin is the focus of his admiration and Sakura is wife love. They represent different kinds of love.
The way you explained it makes it seem like Rin isn't a viable relationship for Shirou, which is wrong, she grows as much from interacting with her as he from her, and I say this as a Shirou/Sakura guy. Their story has just begun, same with Saber. It's why Nasu referred to it as courtship, the beginnings of love, but it's no less than the others.
You also made Shirou and Sakura seem completely unhealthy as a couple. The reason Shirou never expected what happens with Sakura is because she grew as part of the family, while keeping her burdens to herself. But as Nasu said in his review of the three relationships, they had to face reality and hardship to get their relationship the solidarity it has. They had to face the demons that their partners have, on both sides to really find what love meant.
There is strength to found in that, which is why it's great, rather than about being two broken people.
>I honestly can't remember why Shirou has a stronger connection to Sakura in her route, been way too long since I read heaven's feel.
Because in that route he starts getting physically attracted to Sakura rather than densely ignoring her and considering her as much of family to him as Taiga like he does in the other two routes.
>They had to face the demons that their partners have, on both sides to really find what love meant.
Sakura didn't face a thing about Shirou. She was too hopped up on angry manjew violence juice for that. It's one of the reasons why her route is so shitty.
I liked how an anon compared Shirou's partners as Koi and Ai.
Shirou and Rin as something youthful and jovial, and Shirou and Sakura as something mature and serious.
Saber doesn't matter, lol
>as something mature and serious.
They didn't even do any couple things. Sex didn't even matter because anybody can do that without being in love with the person while Rin and Shirou's sex scenes are full of love. Even in that fandisk game HA their scene was the most couple like while everyone elses played out like shitty rape porn.
OP is talking about the progression of the relationship, not the relationship itself. I mean, his love for Sakura is clearly the strongest because he gives up everything he knows just for her sake, but the way we see their relationship develop in the VN doesn't seem like it warrants that at all. And Saber's romance feels completely out of place because their personalities are so incompatible that you have to have outside shit forcing them together, like the wound Saber got from Berserker causing Shirou to get all worried or Rin pushing the two to have sex
>while everyone elses played out like shitty rape porn.
Well to be fair Rin's H-scene in F/SN kinda played out like that after the perfect build-up.
Nothing beats Rin's Eclipse
naturally, Rider's is just a shitty fantsay and I don't even remember how HA's Saber and Sakura's scenes played out. I do remember Caren being raped by Avenger in one of them. Finally this is Shirou's reaction after heand Sakura have sex for the first time.
The scene that awful sex scene got replaced with in RN looked really cute too. I heard it was really dumb in context, but I'm not sure why. Can Shirou not just transfer the crest back to Rin?
Nothing can beat the bond between Father and Daughter.
Baby Caren > *
I can agree with Sakura why Saber? They're very similar and perfect for each other.
Fuck you op.
The problem I have with the RN version is that the absolutly perfect build-up was also deleted.
And the crest in general makes no sense
>Best couple is Shirou and Sakura.
I like that pairing the most beucase betraying his ideal was the biggest sacrifice Shirou could make and that shows just how much he cared about Sakura.
Fate is the only route in which Saber even has a character. She doesn't receive much characterization or development in UBW and is barely even present in HF before being corrupted into something different entirely
They didn't just have sex. There are plenty of real life couples that don't go on a lot of "dates", but just talk and do stuff together, which Sakura and Shirou do. They manage the house together, spend time with Taiga together, cook and talk about the gas, house budget, and the like. If you asked the local housewives, they would say they were already married, since they just have a familiarity that just comes from spending a long time together. They were family first, then they became lovers afterward.
Did you miss all that talk of protecting the clumsy but upright boy she met undee the setting sun? She knows his flaws, and they talk about it, she even gets quite snarky with Shirou about it. The difference is that she notes his shortcomings, but says she loves him regardless. To his face.
Umm those "flaws" are fucking minor in comparison to Shirou;s actual flaws. Shirou is insane, more insane than she even is despite the circumstances, considering she has survival instincts where as he has none. None of those are mentioned are addressed by her.
In fact she treats it as an absurdly weird thing that she decides to do nothing about, which she stayed silent despite the fact she knows he could potentially kill himself every night.
No, they talked about his suicidal tendencies on day 11, and she says herself that she thought many times about stopping him. She didn't of course because the consequences would be pretty bad with Zouken monitoring her. That was why she apologized to him during the conversation.
Then they go onto talk about what it means to learn magic. Which was interesting. She berated him, but also praised him.
Many things in Prisma doesn't make sense.
Indeed, can you imagine the snowball effect of Sakura not being as stupid traumatized as she was would be? She'd team up with Shirou right after seeing his command spell and tell him exactly how to do magic without the bomb squad level practice and if things don't become strained with rin that's three people teaming up in the grail war against Beserker,Caster,Lancer and Gilgamesh. Then again even if Rider,Saber and Archer work together they can't beat Beserker. So when IIya attacks they all die.
Wouldn't Medusa at least reconize Herc, being both Greek heroes and all. I'm pretty sure Medusa with Bellerophon being 2fast4u and Archer's sniping would wreck Berserker. Takes some stratagy though, especially since Archer can't shoot down Illya.
But Saber and Rider can't even manage one. He thrashed Saber around like a rag doll in the VN and in the anime if they were to fight again that prana burst she did won't work twice.
>But Saber and Rider can't even manage one
No, you're dumb. Ilya says that Saber would be able to take multiple lives with Excalibur if she wasn't completely drained, and there's no reason Bellorophon wouldn't be able to kill him at least once.
>Herc may just be the biggest jobber in the entire franchise
>Herc may just be the biggest jobber in the entire franchise
Gil get off Kirei's computer.
Hey man, Gil won the war in F/Z. Herc never even won a battle. He got close, granted, but he never managed to kill anyone without being corrupted by the shadow except for bad ends. Not that I remember, anyway
No, because Rin's jewels have enough mana to take out an entire mansion, just reduce it to ashes.
I think this jobbing thing is getting out of hand. Strong people won't be other strong people easily. That is just it. Nor does being strong mean that you can't be overtaken. Our myths and legends are all about weaker people taking down impossible challenges or adversity. When did that stop becoming a concept?
>Gil won the war in F/Z
Confirmed for not reading F/Z, he got swallowed up by Grail cancer and got spat back out with Kirei.
>Herc never even won a battle.
Are you serious? Herc beat Archer and Saber(HF and Fate).
Even when I just started reading through the Fate route I wanted Shirou to fuck Rin. Her teasing was great and Shirou and Saber seemed to act like dead fish without Rin there to push them along.
Had Kiritsugu not ordered Saber to destroy the Grail, Gil would have beaten her
Herc never managed to kill Saber. Archer was his only victory without becoming Shadow Berserker (and even then, didn't he just kill Archer again? I forget)