How do the Nips live so long if so many of them smoke? What

Falsifying age for benefits.

The new ones won't.

They've been thoroughly westernized and will die hearty, western deaths at 50.

natural tea and they drink a fuckton of water

>>118796412
Healthy eating and exercise

>>118796412
The power of waifus anon, with love you can do anything.

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>>118796466
I-...er, I suppose that is a legitimate answer.

smoking is completely healthy. The reason we think it's unhealthy is because a certain group of individuals of the Hebrew persuasion started a disinformation campaign a long time ago.

>>118796519
So, not the kind of tea that people in the UK and Ireland drink?

In anime, the characters usually die from things like plot and deathflags.

>>118796412
They don't consume shit tier food like most people in murica

>>118796594
Speak for yourself, I drink Yorkshire brew just black.

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>>118796552

>>118796412
Because smoking doesn't actually kill you? I mean, sure, you can suffocate if you're caught in a full-flowing smoke cloud in a fire, but smoking tobacco doesn't kill you.

There is some evidence that it makes you more vulnerable to certain respiratory diseases, but that's all. It increases your vulnerability to something that would've killed you on its own if you contracted it.

All this stuff about second-hand and third-hand smoke That's living in an environment where anybody has smoked before, btw is basically saying "If you rolled this dice representing your life 100 times, 1 time out of 100 you'd die from some vulnerability that smoking increased."

>>118796552
Why the fuck would jews convince people that smoking isn't healthy? They're literally making millions, hell billions on sellings cigs alone.

>>>/pol/

>>118796412
I'm guessing the ones who live long don't smoke.

I'm not sure, but there's a chance you may be under some misconception. I've lived in Japan for a while, and I didn't really think it was that big of a difference in smokers from that of a large American city.

>>118796412
Smoking doesn't kill you.
Stress on the other hand can kill you.

>>118796738
Tobacco companies are the last bastion of white-owned companies in the world. They are the only companies which jews don't have a foothold in.

>>118796738
>They're literally making millions, hell billions on sellings cigs alone.
They are not making money off of smoking. They make shekels off of porn, fast food and foreskin based cosmetics.

>>118796746
>but there's a chance you may be under some misconception
Similar to OP, I was also under the impression that Japan was a country where smoking was very popular.

>>118796738
Are tobacco companies even owned by jews?

>>118796412

They eat healthier, better genetics, use a filter, their cigarettes aren't full of jewish addicting chemicals either.

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>>118796834
> foreskin based cosmetics.

This thread got very retarded very quickly.

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Smoking doesn't automatically mean lung cancer, it just makes your chances of getting it severely increased due to all the carcinogens.

>>118796799
Well, you shouldn't say Smoking doesn't kill you, because it can.

I'm less against smoking for health reasons than I am because it smells like shit and gives you monster mouth.

>>118796552
>smoking is completely healthy.

Definitely not. It's just not nearly as unhealthy as all the ridiculous statistics the toss around would make you think. Taking good care of yourself otherwise (diet and excersize mostly) can really make up for the damage to your health (respiratory/cardiovascular) from smoking. But you'd still be much healthier if you ate right and stayed active and didn't smoke at all.

>>118796943
Moot killed /pol/ so they have no home to spread their shit.

>>118796943
blame moot for destroying /pol/

shit is leaking everwhere.

>>118796746
It really is though. Smoking is banned in all major American cities.

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>mfw I see the people in this thread saying that smoking doesn't kill people

>>118797032
smoking doesn't kill
lung cancer does

>>118796887

If they aren't full of addicting chemicals, they aren't cigarettes.

>>118797032
>implying smoking kills you
The cancer kills you faggot.

>>118796943
Smoking, circumcision and drug use are big retard catalysts for participants on both sides.

People get very defensive over what they do to their bodies.

Fish is a much healthier protein than red meat.

>>118797066
>>118797086
That's like saying getting hit by a car doesn't kill you, internal injuries do.

>>118797086
>I have literally no deductive reasoning skills

>>118797086
>>118797066
Yes, and neither do guns, but you're a lot less likely to get a bullet in your brain when it isn't fired by a gun.

>>118797097
Not as tasty though.

There's a proven causal relationship between smoking and lung cancer.

Not anime or mango

>>118797199
that's entirely subjective, and while i agree to some extend, i do think that there are exceptions where fish can indeed be tastier than red meat

>>118797149
No, getting hit by the car directly causes those internal injuries, hence getting hit by a truck kills you.

But smoking does not directly cause lung cancer. Certain chemicals excacerbate your vulnerability to the conditions that cause lung cancer. But the vast majority of smokers don't get lung cancer.

>>118797086
>implying drowning kills you
The water kills you, faggot.

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>>118797066
>>118797086

tuberculosis, done moving on

do nip cigarettes have all the chemicals that burgerland cigs have in them? that could make a difference.

>>118797303
>>118797252

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>>118797267
Good point.

>>118797303
>No, getting hit by the car directly causes those internal injuries, hence getting hit by a truck kills you.
>mfw

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Smoking does cause you to age four times as fast though. Smokers are gross.

Gross people are gross.

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>>118796412
They drink a lot of tea, just like the Chinese.

>>118797408
My bff smokes and he's the best person ever

>>118796887
>their cigarettes aren't full of addicting chemicals either.
So their cigarettes don't have tobacco in them?

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>>118797530
Yeah, go see how great he is when he's forty. Smokers age like people in the Middle Ages.

>>118796412
not shitty american diet; everyone walks everywhere
green tea, fish fats, tofu, fermented foods

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>>118797530
>bff
Get the fuck out.

>>118796889
It's pretty funny that they couldn't anything better to make anti-wrinkle serums from.

>>118797384
It's not a "causal" relationship where there's a 1:1 link between smoking and getting lung cancer.

It's a probability increase where smokers have a higher chance of getting lung cancer and that this cannot be accounted for by mere random sampling or any other risk factor that has been controlled for.

>>118796412
Anime & Manga

>>118796816
for real?

>>118796412
Hentai.

>>118796412
>How do the Nips live so long if so many of them smoke? What is their secret?
They actually have genuine healthcare.

Also, many of the oldest people they have on the books have actually already died. Some were because records were never updated after WW2, while others were kept alive on paper because the relatives want to spend the pension money.

>i used an anime image, therefore this thread is /a/ related

This has literally nothing to do with anime or manga

>>>/jp/

Sage and report

>>118798159
superior genes or safer cigs?
http://lungcancer.about.com/od/causesoflungcance1/f/lungcaparadox.htm

Is smoking moe?

They have a way healthier diet and hence an incredibly low obesity incidence rate of I think 2-3%. So their incidence rate of diabetes and cardiovascular disease is also lesser, and smoking easily pushes preexisting CVD (from having a terrible diet/being a fatass) into heart attack/stroke territory by narrowing the arteries. If their pipes were already clean as a whistle though then it doesn't affect them as badly. Smoking definitely induces cardiovascular problems on its own, however, since for the nips these usually aren't combined with other pre-existing contributing factors the net result isn't as bad.

Also, all the tea and seaweed they take in contributes a lot of antioxidant (which in a somewhat roundabout way is saying anticancer) benefits that might help explain their lower lung cancer rates.

Lastly smoking usually causes lung cancer to happen decades later, not right away. Same goes for alcohol abuse and liver cancer, which commonly arises out of liver cirrhosis first induced decades ago. Even if you hadn't drunk at all since then, the liver could still become cancerous as it attempts to heal (which takes years), and the lungs are the same way with smoking damage. So maybe 20 years from now suddenly nips will experience a spike in lung cancer.

>>118798397
>They have a way healthier diet
That's why their teeth are so perfect, right?

>>118798439
That has to do way more with their cultural approach/attitudes toward dentistry than their diet. In the US many kids/teens who will clearly have fucked up teeth will get braces or some corrective procedures done, in Japan basically no.

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>>118798396
No.

>>118798532
That's because Japan thinks crooked teeth are kawaii.

>>118798439
I think the teeth part has other causes.

>Lack of proper hygiene
I have heard some guys go up to a month without brushing their god damn teeth.
>Society thinks it's cute to have crooked teeth.
You know the moe fangs in anime? that's it ugly crooked teeth.
>Bad genetics
Yes some even try to take care and still end up with shitty teeth.

why are smokers so damn defensive about it? just let us take away your ciggies goddamn.

>>118798886
Because life is shit and I'm anxious and I want to die earlier

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>actually being addicted to smoking
>not just smoking socially when drunk

>>118799008
get out fucking casual

>>118799008
Jesus, that's actually more pathetic than this >>118798971

If you want to kill yourself, then fucking kill yourself, god damn.

>>118798595
>>118798532
It's far simpler than that.

Look at the size of the Japanese upper jaw and the Japanese mandible.

Now try to fit a full complement of 32 adult teeth in there.

>>118798971
There are more efficient and less painful ways to kill yourself though.

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>>118799008
>smoking when drunk

>>118799109
>implying I want to die

Theres too much anime I haven't watched

>>118799008
If you're doing that, you're already addicted.

Smoking is objectively horrible, and if there were no drugs in there, there's no way you'd do it*.

Nicotine is a drug with no effect but withdrawal symptoms. This is why there's no word for "having smoked a lot of cigarettes" like there is for "having smoked a lot of weed" or "having drunk a lot".


* inb4 "yes I would": so why aren't you smoking rollups with bits of lettuce and stuff in when you're sober?

smoke makes you look cool

>>118799008
>socially

Eat a dick fag

>>>/out/

>>118799406
No doubt its disgusting and harmful, but at least it lets you hide your power level among others

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>smoking thread

>>118799585
Go stand in a fire then.

>>118799585
Smoking makes you look cool when you're cool. The skinnyfat manlet in a madoka tee shirt that is plebeian/a/ does not look cool by smoking or doing anything else.

>>118798532
Diet is what determines how well your jaw line develops. If somebody eats any significant amount of highly domesticated produce, then they are either overweight from all the extra food they need to eat to get full nutrition, or they are nutrient deficient and will have growth problems.

>>118799733
so it's basically a smelly fedora?

>>118799142
smoking is the most socially acceptable in some people's opinions

>>118799733
Glad I'm not one of these /a/ guys

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Smoking is unhealthy, but eating a teaspoon of salt after each cig negates completely the negative effects while keeping all the beneficial ones, as a plus, you also get a nice amount of electrolytes.

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>smoking is so deadly that a diet rich in antioxidants is enough to counter it

>>118799760
Yes. Same goes for a tumbler of Scotch or anything else that's traditionally cool or sophisticated.

Those things became cool because cool people did them, not because they make you cool.

>>118799406
>Nicotine is a drug with no effect but withdrawal symptoms.

The first time I inhaled a drag from a cigarette it fucked me up. You quickly build a tolerance to the point where you no longer notice it but nicotine definitely has stimulating effects.

>>118799818
>>118799857
Smokers please go
Hope you die of lung cancer

>>118799179
>puffing on a 888 Illusione while drinking a nice bourbon

It's the little things in life, man.

>>118797530
nice blog

Look up "Smoke Screens" by Richard White, it's $5 on Kindle. The whole thing is legitimately a sham.

Why the fuck everyone thinks that "He smokes so he's an asshole ? Seriously, what the fuck ? I don't even smoke but I know a lot of people who do and are cool as fuck. Don't judge people just because of a fucking stick that smokes

>>118800632
>multibillionaire tobacco magnates pay scientists to do fake science
>"studies" come out
>tobacco is harmless!
>sales increase 200%

you guys are talking bout weed right?

because dank kush is allowed

if you aint got kush in your smoke you go get lung cancer

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It's shame that something so unhealthy also looks so cool.

>>118800697
Because they smell like shit. I reserve my right to judge people who stand outside making the air stink and who dispose of their butts by trowing them on the ground like savages.

Leave it to smokers to be ultra defensive of their nasty addiction.

>>118800697
Anyone who uses a mini hookah is an asshole by default.

>>118800753
I bet you didn't know that even after 60+ years of research, there's no proven physical mechanism by which smoking causes lung cancer or any other disease. The entire link is based on corrupt statistics

>>118800867
>inb4 "not all smokers"

>>118800804
I wonder why smoking looks so cool, I can't figure it out

>>118800992
Exactly because it's bad for you.

It's rebellious, so having a rebel character smoke just shows how they don't give a fuck about what you or anyone else thinks. That's the case in fiction, but in real life, it's just annoying.

>>118800992
niggah its fire

you're having FIRE on a STICK near your MOUTH

PRIMAL POWER MAN
HE PRIMAL MAN WITH FIRE ON STICK
AND HE BREATHES IT
ALPHA MALE

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>>118800960
ima sure ima not an asshole nigga

>>118801106
You post like one.

>>118796412
Lots and lots of reasons

1. Calorie restriction. It's been shown you have a 400% reduction in heart disease if your GRANDFATHER was on a calorie reduced diet. This is thanks to genetic switching.

2. Diet. The Japanese diet is very high in fats, and very low in processed sugars. It's considered unmanly to even like sweets and it's considered piggish for girls to eat them. It's true they're popular but if you saw the serving sizes compared to the American ones you'd be shocked. Some people point out they have a diet with high rice, and that's true, but rice is not at all bad for you compared to simple carbs. Brown rice is obviously better though.

3. Location. The air quality is extremely improved compared to a continent.

4. Exercise. Everyone in Japan walks, and they walk constantly. They walk every day to and from school or work. The importance of this cannot be overstated.

5. Genetics. They're small people. Small people tend to live longer just because of a more stable cardiovascular system.

So if you add up all these cardiovascular advantages, a portion of their population killing themselves through smoking isn't enough to keep them from having a longer expectancy than everyone else. Smoking still kills Japanese people though so don't think it doesn't. They just have so many other advantages to make up for it.

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>>118800992
Maybe because of of the people who do it, or the way they usually seem relaxed when they're up to it.

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Smoking is literally the best thing that has ever happened in the history of the universe. Not only did smoking invent happiness, but it also is the reason why kittens are cute, beds are soft, and why houses keep you safe from rain and giraffe rape. Every cigarette you smoke makes you stronger and your dick bigger. Hitler was a non-smoker and look at how that turned out, he was only able to kill about ten thousand Jews. His non-smoking made him weak and foolish. The guy who invented shoes learned how to make them from a cigarette. Every time you do something cool it's because someone in the world just smoked a cigarette. Simo Hayha killed 700 Russians with seven cigarettes tied together with scotch tape, historians claim it was an SKS but that is incorrect. He also survived an anti-tank round to the face because the cigarette he was smoking deflected it. Fist of the North Star was created when the writer saw the artist smoking a cigarette and said "Hey, awesome cigarette. That gives me an idea, let's invent Fist of the North Star." Demonbane was originally intended to be a cigarette but the author felt there would be no sense of suspense so he downgraded it to a significantly weaker omnipotent god-machine. Cigarretes are made of air, water, bread and joy all put together. The reason we go to heaven when we die is because it is a cigarette. Studies conducted by people better than you prove that there is a direct correlation between not smoking and being a gay nigger. Don't be a gay nigger, smoke. Smoke everything.

>>118800632
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that guy has almost zero credibility.

>>118797332
I thought that tuberculosis was caused by bacteria

>>118800992
Girls smoking is one of the most disgusting fucking things ever

Smoking looks cool, because we've been grown up to think that those rough, stoic, rebel badasses(like Clint eastwood, Jotaro etc.) are fucking cool since they don't give a fuck about anything, including their health

While in reality, 99.99% of smokers are probably struggling with their addiction or doing it to "fit in"

>>118800962
What classifies statistics as corrupt or uncorrupt? You're just arbitrarily saying which are true and which are false in order to support your disgusting habit.

>>118801223
did you just

really?

>>118801286
Stop posting like a faggot.

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>>118801183
>the people who do it
The people who're shown to do it, I should say.

The breathing involved is also pleasant, I feel. Sometimes I breathe in and pretend to exhale smoke when I've got a toothpick or something in my mouth.

>>118801336
stop being one

>>118801223
I smoke 20 cigars per day, am I doing this right ?

>>118801223
>Simo
>SKS
Fuck off.

>>118801183
Have you ever been around smokers in real life?
The vast, vast majority are disgusting and jittery.

There's nothing cool about smelling bad and looking disgusting because you're addicted to some expensive little stick you're psychologically forced to stand outside in the cold to light on fire.

>>118801412
you've been around assholes smokers, not normal smokers.

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>>118796412
Ancestor worship

Shamefur disprays bring an early death.

>>118796412
Don't report the death of your old relatives and continue collecting pension monies.

>>118801265
It's the same way people were convinced that egg consumption raises cholesterol or coffee gives you colon cancer, even though they don't.

I don't even smoke. I'm just convinced I'm looking at the biggest medical scandal in human history.

>>118801183
But when they aren't they are your average asshole. Especially when they need a smoke. And when they get over their dose they go back to being assholes.

>>118801482
>no TRUE Scotsman sugars his porridge

>>118801374
Are you retarded? He never used an SKS. It was seven cigarettes tied together. Get your shit straight.

I smoke dicks :)

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>>118801412
Most smokers I know have been family members. Yes, pretty annoying. However, the smoker I know best did house myself, my mother, and brother for several years, and generally showed us all the kindness he could, although I was constantly irritated by the smoke in the house. It was a small nightmare thinking about and trying to avoid the risks involved in that, but I still appreciate what he did for us. But that's an anecdote.

I never watched him smoke for any length of time, and actually left the room or held my breath when he did, so I'm sure it's the media I consume that makes it attractive somehow.

>>118801655
Fuck it, you got me.

In some cases nicotine has been shown to manage the symptoms of adhd better than tradition cns stimulants. Emphasis on some cases.

>>118797066

Smoking gives you lung cancer.

Making smoking an accomplice to your death.

>>118799008

Fucking kill yourself.

>>118800697

It's stupid.
Just as stupid as those electric cigarettes.

>>118799008
>actually drinking alcohol

>>118802112
The addictive component of tobacco, MOBI, is in fact a natural antidepressant that's been shown to help prevent Parkinson's.

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>>118801223

There is no such thing as defending smoking for any health reason whatsoever. You can replace it with any kind of feel-good placebo and it'd be MUCH healthier by many factors.

>>118801482

>smokers
>normal

Yeah. And every /a/non on /a/ isn't an autistic beta man child.

>>118802648
>not wanting to smoke weed

>>118802764
>Wanting to stink up the room with ass-smell

>>118801647
That is, by the way, true.

It's ironic indeed that the name of the fallacy came about from a sophistic misinterpretation of what's obviously a statement of opinion.

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>>118802446
But muh whiskey!

>>118802446
what's wrong with alcohol?

>>118803522
It's better to put butter in your oatmeal anyway.

>>118802438
Actually several smokers I know were able to quit using e-cigs. One of them in fact is my grandmother who smoked for over 40 years, she tried pretty much everything else like the patches and pills and such, but the electronic cigarettes were the only thing that actually stuck. Not to mention they are 100% harmless and odorless, it's only natural to dislike smoke but anyone who complains about vapor is an honest to goodness fucking faggot who doesn't know what they're talking about.

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>>118804068
>what's wrong with alcohol?

>>118803926
>not 100 proof rum

I used to like whiskey too. But then the burning went away and I started to realize how bland it was.

>>118799008
>Doing substances socially
Fuck off.

>>118796412
Why does my dad still live if all he does is smoke?

>>118806915
that doesn't tell me much, are you saying it'll turn me into a shitty looking plastic model if I drink too much?

my great grandmother smoked like a chimney and she died at the age of 96

>>118796412
Smoking is a relatively new trend in that country. You don't see the effects for many, many years.

That said, fuck all of you, and me, for replying to such an off topic thread.

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>>118796994
>>118796989
I miss /pol/

>>118808653
Literally the only purpose in alcohol is to poison yourself and clean. The only reason you can use it to clean is because it's a poison that kills bacteria. I guess some people do need to get drunk regularly to dull their memories of poor life decisions or to "make themselves more outgoing" by dulling their ability to notice themselves being fucking retarded.

If you people want a Darwin award go ahead, but the problem with smoking is that you're poisoning the people around you too.

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>>118809247
It is something to do if you are bored out of your mind, it makes nostalgic anime more nostaglic, food tastes better when drunk, you can feel warmer in the winter, and it helps you sleep.

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So what do you smoke guys?

I smoke American Spirit Black.

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>>118810284

>>118810284
I will smoke ur ass

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>>118796731
Please don't even start with this shit /a/

I'm sick of your bullshit.

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>>118810451
>he doesn't smoke

>>118801223

I don't know if this is pasta but I'm laughing all the same.

>>118810400
You lucky I can't get those in the US anymore, but I think AS blacks are the next best thing.

Do you see how much seafood they eat?

That's literally the reason why.

>>118801263
Fuck you man, smokes relaxes me on a stressed day or traffic.

This thread has a ridiculous amount of shit posting, misinformation and stupid justifications. I'd rather read a generic circle jerk thread at this point, good job /a/.

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>>118801368

>>118810792
this

I smoke like a pack a week because i'm a hikki neet and it relaxes me, I also feel cool while doing it. i'm sorry if that makes you upset, but there are much worse things to get angry about others doing

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>>118810801
That's because you aren't smoking right now. You can fix that by smoking.

>>118810792
it also probably stresses you the fuck out when you can't have one or are out.

>>118810801
Maybe if these politically correct annoying healthy motherfuckers stopped shitting rules on other people this would be better

>>118809247
it's nice to lose some control of your body sometimes

>>118810999
>maybe if people with their FACTS and SCIENCE stopped saying stuff this thread would be good!


ok

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>lung cancer
no fucking thanks.
>muh self-moderation
>muh non-lethal cigarettes

>>118811073
>S-stop smoking because I say so !

>All this people mad at smoking.

>>118810907
so you can't afford to buy your own, and it makes you feel "cool". yikes.

I don't smoke because it kills tastebuds and I care too much about the taste of food.

Also fuck everyone who smokes cheap cigs, I like the smell of cigs but the cheap stuff just smells like processed ash.

Smoking is good for your health

Learned that from my Indonesian dad

>>118811325
>yikes

You sound like a faggot, and I can afford to buy my own. I'm not poor.

>all these brainwashed winter break babies

>>118810284
I smoke menthals, they are a lot nicer on my lungs than normal cigs

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>>118810491
Nice disinfo. I bet you think the Holocaust was real, too.

>>118811409
whatever makes you feel "cool". sounds like the only thing going for you so that's good i guess.

They study too hard thats why their IQ is higher than whites-oh wait. I mean they work too hard thats why they live longer.

>>118811737
Fuck off, you retarded normalfag.

>>118811298
Their parents probably told them this. They never actually tried one and are just too proud of their ways

>m-muh healthy

>>118796412
actually moderate daily nicotine intake can reduce chance of getting alzheimers and MS

>>118811791
eating with chopsticks also does.

>>118811659
how's that a disinfo ?

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>>118796412
Nobody really knows. If it were just their longer life experience being discussed here, we could assume that their diet and national health care offsets the higher rate of lung cancer. The problem is that not only do the have a higher life experience than any other country, but they also have lower rates of people getting lung cancer. It's not a good answer, but it's either genetics or environment that preventing lung cancer from occurring. Unfortunately, Japan is so xenophobic that there's not enough non-asians living there to do study based on statistics, or maybe there is, but hasn't been done yet. I don't know.

>>118808794
"Smoking" is actually pretty old there.

>>118811761
IQ doesn't even matter. I hate how every form of media has presented Asians as smarter than Whites. Their intelligence is so fucking overrated.

What a crock of shit.

Never knows best

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>>118811976
>mfw I actually did that

God it's so embarrassing to think about

>>118811853
so keeping your mummified relatives in house

>>118812090
That sounds pain painstakingly to do. I'd imagine it be chicken shit writing or it would pierce the cig.

>>118811941

What if the okinawans with their exorbitantly long lives balance out the mean with the sick mainland city slickers?

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>>118810284
pic related
>>118811554
Do those come with the fedora or do I have to purchase it separately?

>>118811959
I bet I'm way smarter than uou whiteboi. Fite me

How are e-Cigarettes treated in Japan? I know that in my state and home county, they're trying to ban them for being harmful to human lungs.

>>118812577
>they're trying to ban them for being harmful to human lungs.

Are they banning factories and cities as well?

>>118812577
Yo wut? Vapor...

>>118810491
Here's the thing: people live just fine with those lungs for many, many decades. They don't just keel over because the lungs turn black unless they're forced to undergo incredible respiratory stress, like inordinate exertion or being infected by any number of diseases which are not caused by smoking.

>>118812705
>>118812616
According to the people pushing to ban e-cigs, that "vapor" contains harmful carcinogenic chemical byproducts, used to bind the flavor of nicotine to the liquid flavor capsules used in the e-cigs. It's also alleged that using e-cigs while driving is as distracting as using cellphones, and that making e-cigs carry any flavoring whatsoever is marketing them to children and thus getting them hooked on smoking.

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>>118812836
That sounds like the most idiotic, poorly thought out bullshit they possibly could have come up with. Is their basis for whining about harmless vapor so weak that they have to drag driving and children into it?

>>118812526
Finnish dude here, when you get to the level of our country we talk.

a large amount of health problems from cigarettes comes from lead and pollonium radiation, and they are already used to radiation. Probably the same reason some Chinese can consume waste-quality food.

>>118812740
My grandparents did smoke heavily for quite a few decades up until their deaths at around 75. When my grandmother got sick it was unfortunately her past smoking that prevented her from making a recovery. My grandpa did develop lung cancer and looked incredibly frail by the time he died. But yes people with healthy bodies and good genes can live for quite a while when smoking heavily. Unfortunately it usually isn't a pretty site near the end.

>>118813572
It never is pretty near the end, idk what you're talking about. My Uncle-grandparent is part the 100 year old and he still fucking smokes, he's only depth.

COPD is a pretty damn shitty.

Who Lucky Strike Blue here? It's addictive free!

>>118813944
I'm new at smoking, what's the difference between the blue and red ?

>>118813752
>My Uncle-grandparent is part the 100 year old
>he's only depth.
what?

>>118813309
Sounds like a lot of corruption at the hand of tobacco corporations.

>>118814051
Reds have more nicotine, tar and all that other foul stuff. They have a stronger taste.

>>118812405
You're acting like a higher quality cigarette is the same as a vape. I'm sorry you can't afford them? I'm not sure why you'd be mad or give a shit though.

Tobacco is fucking disgusting

>>118797303
>Smoking don't cause lung cancer

Yes, actualy smoking causes every cancer possible. Smoking meka your cells multiply faster but becouse of this they "skip" some phases, more specifically the "verifing" phases, making the odds of creating sick cells higher than persons that don't smoke in any part of the body, so in the end, if you smoke, you may never have a lung cancer but contract pancreatic cancer as a side effect of quick cell replication. You also rise the chances of tumors and your breath gonna stink like shit and your teeth gonna rot

Smoking can increass the odds drasticaly but it don't mean you gonna have cancer, you can be a lucky one and live 100 years smoking, but I don't quite think this is the rule. Due my shitty luck, I prefer not to incress the odds against me

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>>118815170
>He doesn't smoke

>>118815359
People with "bad luck" are just unperceptive.

>>118796412

Their diets most likely, coupled slightly with genetics.

>>118799008
>actually smoking
>not just mimicking the motions because you don't know what to do with your hands

You should only be allowed to smoke if you can do it without looking like a fag.

>>118800867
I gotta clean that shit up by hand, so I'm with you on that one.

>>118815381
>he smokes
What now faggot

>>118816052
Now I'm more cool than you

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I started smoking just because I wanted to learn how to do this. I thought it would impress people but nobody gives a shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9ySCcnoo3c

This is literally the dumbest thread on /a/, holy shit
>better genetics

>>118796412
Can I ask what anime is this OP ?

>>118796544
djarum blacks are so good, would like a pack right now

>>118798232
^dis

>>118802764
Weed smells like ass, just get some of that THC infused sugar.

>>118810400
Where can one even get a pack of those without asking some smoke shop to order an entire carton for you?

>>118813348
>Finnish
>anywhere near relevant
we don't want third-world country shitposting here.

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>applying real life shit to 2D activities
Obviously 3D smoking is gross, but anime girls smoking are the best.

>>118817317
You can't, at least not where I live

>>118796985
too bad they still make you smell like shit and ruin your sense of taste/smell, which is why a lot of smokers don't think they smell.

>>118796412
Pacts with their heathen gods of course.

>>118810792
It only relaxes you because it already fucked with your anxiety where you need one to calm down if you haven't had one in a while and makes you get more annoyed at little shit when you haven't had one.

>>118796552
Jew here
I can't live the lie anymore. My brothers have lied to your kind for too long. Smoking is what keeps our scales from falling off, which is what makes us immortal
They are coming for me now. You know what to do.

>>118819058

Read up a little bit on the physical and psychoactive effects of nicotine before you spout your disinfo. People are able to not be addicted to nicotine and still feel the effects of it.

>>118796552
Sorry bud. Hitler started the first anti-smoking campaign in history.

/pol/ go home

Never understood the "relaxing" part of smoking. It just gives me an awful headrush, smells/tastes like shit and costs a lot.

I feel you'd just be better off just popping benzos occasionally when you're feeling stressed.

Holy shit the delusion is unreal. If you want to indulge in your shitty hobby that's perfectly fine but are people actually trying to argue smoking is "cool" and doesn't make you cancer incarnate?

Does nicotine have the additional side effect of inducing retardation?

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I only smoke when on the job so as to not offend the superiors and important clients who offer us such things.

Cigarettes are tolerable as it is more of the moment kind of thing where you excuse yourself and go to the corner and smoke your head off. Wait till you guys try shisha, literally spending the entire evening next to a water pipe just so you can sign a good deal.

>>118819462

Society has changed a lot since the 1950s. While the concept that smoking is something cool was correct back then, it's done a complete 180 and now it's considered something that only trailer trash and losers do, and the health scares that stem from anti-smoking propaganda are over-exaggerated. In the end, both extremes are retarded. Smoking is smoking, but now a large amount of people think that catching a whiff on the street is a one way ticket to fucking cancer. It's absolutely ridiculous.

Holy fuck /a/ is so pathetic. get on my level and chew tobacco.

>>118819889

I hate carrying a spit bottle around, unless you just swallow that shit. I used to dip two tins a day but quit when my gums kept bleeding.

>>118816186
>now I can't quit

>>118799406
>Nicotine is a drug with no effect but withdrawal symptoms.

its a nicotinic ACh receptor agonist. you have obviously never had nicotine, because yes, it does give you a buzz. Also I get very claimy and anxious.

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>>118819462
Your wi-fi router is slowly inducing various cancers in you yet you believe it's perfectly harmless. Some time ago people believed that tobacco, uranium and asbestos were harmless. Today people believe that "e-cigarettes", artificial edulcorants and all our wi-fi/wimax/3-4-5G bullshit are harmless. To each era its sanitary scandals.

If you get a cancer, it won't be induced by second hand smoke, that's for sure. It'll be all the diesel smoke you breathed in if you live in a big city, or all the diet soda you swallow believing it's healthy. It may also be titanium dioxide if you get a little too much (if there is some in your toothpaste, plus your medication, and sweets).

Or simply overall shitty diet.

Of course smoking is harmful, but holy shit, people's obsession with it as if it was the biggest health threat humanity could face is hilarious. I laugh when people living in big cities get mad at smokers for being unhealthy, because there's so many things in their environment that are killing them faster and "better" than second hand smoke, the irony is delicious.

>>118820803
>waves that are lower energy than visible light are harmful

>>118820803
>there's so many things in their environment that are killing them faster and "better" than second hand smoke

Such as ?

>>118820803
I think people get mad at smokers because it's generally unpleasant to be around a smoker when you aren't one yourself.

I'll never understand why tobacco always causes so much dissension on /a/. It just devours threads, and there aren't even any waifus involved.

>>118820974
Because it's not anime.

My aunt's going to be dead at age 52 in a month thanks to her smoking habits.

Seriously. She was just given two weeks to live yesterday.

The last time I saw her, a few months ago, her lungs were in such bad condition that she couldn't walk fifteen feet unassisted without oxygen.

>>118821071
How much of her life she spent smoking ? My grandfather died 57 years old and he smoked since he was 7.

>>118821153

Late teens?

She went through most of her life as a chain smoker, though she did have periods where she temporarily kicked the habit.

Cigarettes are disgusting.They're horrible smelling, tasting, everything, and they literally kill you and I fucking love them and drink them like water.

>>118820974
Because it's addicting and tobacco is big business now here's your cancer stick.

>>118796552
clearly bait

Jap record keeping is utter shit because of their refusal to modernize it. Most of the reports of people living to really old age is fraud and bad book keeping.

>>118820803
Oh good one of those diet soda people.

I don't drink diet soda but I have a masters in biology. Your body processes artificial sweeteners as fibers. Tiny...fibers. They are not cancer causing or anything-else-causing. You're not dying from diet soda.

>>118821659
Which is why sugar free life savers are more powerful than prescription strength laxatives.

I wonder why oral laxatives even exist when they are totally outmatched.

>>118820974

It's the same effect that happens when you point an alcoholic to the nearest AA meeting, tell a heroin addict to head into rehab, remind /jp/ of the parents that they're leeching off of, or inform a fat acceptance person that both their shitty health and their unfavorable social condition are the result of choices that they make several times per day.

People hate being told that the things that they like hurt both themselves and the people around them. Sometimes, even overwhelming evidence against their stance being thrown right in their face isn't enough to make them budge.

People actually smoke? Smoking is for normals who want to look cool.

>>118821966
>inb4 vlcsnap

>>118821966
>not smoking
it's like you don't even want to optimize your self-hating.

>>118821873
While I think smoking is a shitty habit that will kill people, I've always found the anti-smokers to be a lot more volatile in these threads.

>>118821837
I can't continue this argument on 4chan because you are literally too stupid. Enjoy your sugar free lifesavers, faggot.

>>118822047
What? That doesn't even make fucking sense.

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>>118819889
>chew tobacco

>>118822203
Clearly somebody's shitposting algorithm glitched out there.

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>>118821966
>>118822203
>>118822234
great now I have to leave the thread

>>118822312
kids these days.

I bet they don't even smoke.

New episode yet?

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>>118822837
Ep 13 in 8h 47m.

>>118798159
/pol/ please I know you guys are shit at statistics but things not being 1:1 doesnt mean only random sampling accounts for this. I dont give a fuck if you like cigs but dont talk bullshit.

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>>118801223
>Cigarettes are made out of bread

>>118797195
And guns don't fire themselves. Blame the person, not the inanimate object.

>>118796412
>heavy smoker
>unruly an sloppy drunk
>normalfag
>blonde dyed hair
Why does the Japanese government want to force 3DPD sluts on otaku? They're obviously not as desperate to marry or procreate as they believe so why have an anime that depicts an attractive but undesirable in many other aspects girl as marriage material?

>>118796552
SHUT IT DOWN

>>118821071
My grandpa and my great-grandmother both died around the age of 60 from cancer and neither smoked or drank for that matter. Both times transitioned into lymph nodes and it was painfully quick. I honestly don't even care about lung cancer because my chances of a worse kind will get me first.

>>118824549

That's 2 out of 12 grandparents and great grandparents. Why give yourself one more possible cause of an early death?

Death from lung disease isn't necessarily a painfully quick thing where they'll drug you up so much that you can't even feel it anymore as soon as it hits.

It's been a long, long time since she's been able to walk more than short distances, and as I stated in my post there, she's not even able to do that much right now. In her own words from a few years back, my aunt's lungs look like a meteorite. Obviously, just living is uncomfortable when you're like that.

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>>118797199
Depends on the fish. Shitty river fish isn't as good as pork or beef, sure, but anything made from salmon is god tier.

>>118819889
That's even more disgusting.

>>118799008
>he doesn't drink alone in his room on christmas

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>>118796412
if i recall correctly, that number is skewed because they kept some old people on govt data that they thought were alive at 145 or something years oldm because no one told anyone about their deaths so people could collect neetbux for the old ppl.

>>118824277
Yes, so blame the smoker.

>>118819830
Secondhand smoke scares are not completely unjustified, and that type of fear hasn't been a prominent issue since like 2008. One extreme is far less retarded than the other; one side causes the propagation of self-destructive and disgusting habits, and the other side causes the avoidance of people with such habits. I can't of any negative side effects of being afraid of secondhand smoke.

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Whos your favorite character who smokes?

>>118829258
Kiritsugu

is it normal to feel like puking my guts out after a few beers and a smoke right after

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I am a Slav and Slavs smoke like crazy.
Even with literally half the population smoking in my country the average life span is 73 years.
People here on average smoke like 1 pack a day.

People also drink a lot.
I think it comes with people coming to terms with the fact that life is shit.

Smoking kills, but what are you living for anyways?

>>118798555
That is moe as fuck, Homura should smoke.

>>118798886
Why are non smokers so defensive about it? I'm not hurting anybody, let me smoke in goddamn peace, alright man? It's my body and I'll do whatever the hell I want with it.

>>118831275
secondary smoke etc etc etc.

a lot of you folk keep smoking in public spaces where non-smokers hang around and take in your bad juju