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Let's have a "cinematography" thread
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Images to represent cinematography is like books to represent Shakespeare's plays.

Retarded.

At least link a youtube video or something, like so:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l3yEGblTj8
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>>118684571
Goddamn that's beautiful
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OP I thought you said CINEMAtography, and not PHOTOgraphy.
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>>118682813
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>>118684921
Cinematography is an offshoot of photography. Also, have you never been in one of these threads before? This is always how they go.
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>>118685013
>Cinematography is an offshoot of photography

It's a completely separate thing. By definition, photography has no motion.
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>>118685053
Neither does cinematography. It's a series of still images, which are what make up films and/or animation. As such, pictures are an effective way of showing some degree of cinematography. Are you retarded?

This is an IMAGE board, not a VIDEO board, so cinematography threads here have always been compilations of still images.
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Not the flashiest, but pretty masterful. Oshii is almost always great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dmlwhaEEgE
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>>118683732
top center is stunningly beautiful
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Next time call it "composition" and hopefully avoid this dumb debate.
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>>118685117
>Neither does cinematography

No anon, it is. CINEMA is a word that comes from the roots of movement. And a series of still images when placed together creates the illusion of movement, just like a photograph creates the illusion of whatever it is a photograph of.

Also, you seem to have forgotten about webms. But that seems to be the case for you imbeciles.
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>>118685243
Photography teaches many of the same principles as cinematography. Camera shots, whether in film or photography, operate off of the same shit a lot of the time. Wide shots, full shots, close ups, and how that synergizes with the scene. The camera is not always constantly in motion.

And the reason nobody would use webms all the time is because you can only express a single scene of cinematography in one webm, not to mention the pain in the ass it is to encode one. Simple collages express a bunch of the techniques used in an anime, and there are loads of them that have been made. Why don't you go bitch to the people who made them considering that they're constantly posted in "cinematography" threads on /a/.

Why must we sperg over semantics when it's obvious what the thread is supposed to be about?

>>118685240
Who the fuck cares? Everyone knows what OP meant.
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>>118685527
>because you can only express a single scene of cinematography in one webm

And you can't even do that in an image.

>The camera is not always constantly in motion.

But the SUBJECTS of the camera, ARE in motion. And that changes everything. And then when the camera itself is in motion, when it weaves around the subjects, moving here to there, moving around to focus on the important parts without the need for cuts, it creates an effect that photography can't even compare to.

Basically faggot, you are a fuckwit who doesn't even appreciate cinematography.

>sperg over semantics

Even more an example of shit taste. You're probably one of the fuckwits who uses the term "animes" too, no doubt.

Fuck off.
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>>118686027
What the fuck did you just say about me? I have a Master's Degree in Filmmaking from Yale, you fucking piece of shit. I know more about cinematography than you will in your entire lifetime, shitstain.
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>>118683732
Always have enjoyed the Rei bookends.
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>>118684571
Of course, but you can examine the shot composition of a film by using still images, just like you can examine the writing of a play using the script.

There's no need to be so petty.
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>>118686468
Maybe you should go back and re-do it then.
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>>118686027
>But the SUBJECTS of the camera, ARE in motion.

Not him but

that isn't cinematography, it's animation. At least in the case of anime.

>And then when the camera itself is in motion, when it weaves around the subjects, moving here to there, moving around to focus on the important parts without the need for cuts, it creates an effect that photography can't even compare to.

And this doesn't always happen. Some shots are camera angles, not moving shots, in anime. Key word being some, meaning the OP's term cinematography wasn't all-encompassing for all elements of cinematography. Pictures are enough to capture SOME cinematography, just look at the images posted in this thread. You can't argue the images in those collages aren't examples of cinematography.

In short, cinematography is just the film equivalent of photography, or maybe better defined as photography in motion. It extends to simply "shots" in a film or animation, and also the camera work. Obviously the images posted in this thread were of the former.

>>118686746
Thank you, that's the term I was looking for. Shot composition, which is an element of cinematography, is probably what the thread is supposed to be about.

That said, it'd be better to drop the debate and just post examples.
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>>118684571
That Anno cuts always give me a goosebumps.
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>>118686877
>You can't argue the images in those collages aren't examples of cinematography

That is exactly what I am arguing.

>cinematography is just the film equivalent of photography

The film equivalent of photography must have motion anon, otherwise it's still photography. You need to pay attention.

If you want an example of what I am talking about here >>118686027 when I talk about the movement of the camera look at this video from between 0:25 to 0:34.

http://youtu.be/-IuBg6jF0HI?t=23s

It's not anime, but it's a good example of my point that motion is completely important when talking about cinematography. If the camera was still and doing still shots the entire time, it wouldn't have anywhere near the same effect.
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>>118687097
I'd like to hear your argument against >>118686746

Are you going to say that shot composition isn't an aspect of cinematography? That's basically what the pictures are.
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>>118685198
Anno may be a troll who hates all his fans, but he's a very good director.
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>>118687120
Composition AND motion are elements of cinematography. Remove motion, and all you have is a photo.

Anyway I'll leave you guys in peace in your thread about composition. I've said my bit, anything else would just be me having to repeat myself to those who can't read.
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>>118684850
Man, Endless Eight was great for this shit. It probably carried the whole arc for me.
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>>118687326
This is exactly the kinda shit I am talking about.

Fucking awesome example.
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fucking retarded thread but i like utena so
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>>118682813
Most of that isn't a good example of good cinematography.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJZBt6wTNe0

Anno a genius
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the first episode of fsn had nice cinematography. Can't say the same for the ones that followed though.
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What's the difference between a well directed episode and an episode with good cinematography?
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>>118691045
Cinematography is just visual. Direction can encompass anything.

I don't know a ton about anime production though, so I may be wrong. This is just what I'd assume.

I'm sure they have much to do with each other though.
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>>118691045
For good cinematography you need a good director of photography and for well directed episode you need a competent director and a good team working with him.
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>animu
>cinematography

lol
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>>118684850
Noriko Takao's episode was the best.
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>>118691285
Which one was that?
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>>118691387
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>>118691348
This one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D9lLZWWhfM
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>>118691533
I just love the touches that Sugita and the other seiyuu add to each loop. It's amazing how good a job they did recording the same lines eight times. All had perfect changes to make the loops feel simultaneously more tedious and more interesting.
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>>118691387
>>118691417
Why is Shimbo so best?
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>>118691635
I just wish he directed more interesting stuff.
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>>118685119
This scene was great. Every shot served to get the point across wonderfully. This is how you do exposition without needing anyone to say a word, a crucial skill, really.
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Yowamushi 32 and Grand Road 11 were done exceptionally well compared to the avarage episode
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>>118682813
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Anyone have a Mine Fujiko to iu Onna collage?

That one had godly cinematography.
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>>118692822
thast´s form the same woman who did that anime in a parody of brazil right?
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>>118695617
Yes.
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Ghost in the Shell Arise Border 1: Ghost Pain

1/10

I have many, but I will just post like 10 of them.
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>>118697610
Ghost in the Shell Arise Border 2: Ghost Whisper

2/10
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>>118697663
Ghost in the Shell Arise Border 3: Ghost Tears
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>>118697694
Ghost in the Shell Arise Border 4: Ghost Stands Alone

4/10
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>>118697728
5/10
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>>118697754
6/10
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>>118697778
7/10
The visual may or may not looks appealing to you, but trust, this movie is amazing.
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>>118697807
8/10
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>>118697831
9/10
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>>118697848
10/10

Just tell me if I should post more...
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>>118697860
Did you make them?
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>>118698000
Yes. I don't save anyone's collage. I just look at them if it's somebody else's. I much prefer doing them on my own.
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>>118698037
What do you use to put them together? I like making them too.
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>>118698053
I just go to a site... I don't have an editing program like Photoshop...

But I essentially screencap, then crop to the perfect picture size and then use the collage maker. I do it that way. I don't care if there's a faster way to do it.
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Post more weebums.
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>>118697860
Are you the one with the Chimera Ant arc collages?
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>>118690852
I like how the house they pretended to blow up was actually demolished a couple years later.
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>>118698399
As expected.
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>>118698174
What collage maker?
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>>118698328
I only have two HxH collages.
This one with the Hunter exam arc, Zoldyck Family arc and Heaven's Arena arc mixed together.
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>>118698180
Yes sir.
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>>118698451
And this one.

Well I have many more HxH, but they are mostly just collection of characters out together. Nothing that amazing...

>>118698436
picmonkey.com
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>>118697831
This movie blows but the duel between Howl and the old woman in the middle of it is fucking pretty.
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>>118698502
collection of characters put together*
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>>118698451
>>118698502
Good enough, thanks.
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>>118690797
>>118687326
>>118692045
What are these? Is the last one 5cm/s?
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>>118698180
>only using a background and two cels to do that pan out
Sasuga Nippon.
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>>118682813
This was a shit thread when you made a few months ago. Please don't make it again.
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>>118698872
Fuck off.
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>digital era coloring
>shine and bloom up the ass
>everything either washed out shit or neon eye cancer
>every shot has as many colors crammed in as possible

Why the fuck.
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>>118698823
Hey, whatever works.
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>>118697778
Whats this?

>>118697754
And this?
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>>118691686
>I just wish he directed anything
Fixed that for you.
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>>118700077
>Shinbo will never direct anything again
;_;
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>>118699760
>>118698478
>>118695042
>>118687176
>>118684850
>>118687386

KyoAni is so shit now. If Takemoto and Yamada leave, animation is all they have left. Not to mention their quality has been so-so recently.
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>>118700077

Didn't he direct Nise and Bake?
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>>118700947
I agree those two are half the talent at KyoAni, but I think we just have to wait for them to pick up something good. TLS was pretty high-tier, and that was this year. Maybe they'll put out something phenonemal soon. Seems to be like an every other year kind of deal now.
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>>118701031
No, Bakemonogatari was directed by Tatsuya Oishi and Nisemonogatari (along with all following Monogatari sequels) was directed by Tomoyuki Itamura. Shinbo slaps his name on every Shaft show, but he isn't the actual director for, well, anything they do. His work there is more akin to a producer.
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>>118697086
she´s really good right? i don´t see almost nothing from her, but a lot of people are claiming she is the best in the bussines right now
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>cinematography
Is this a new meme?
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>>118699775
>What's this?
Pretty sure it's Asura, could be wrong though

>>118697860
Please post more

>>118699662
Excellent taste, my brother
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>>118701315
Are you a newfag?
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>>118701208
Has he directed ANYTHING?

>Shinbo slaps his name on every Shaft show
Why is this allowed?
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>>118701592
Use your brain, and google, a little. Of course Shinbo has directed stuff. He's directed since the 90's and has used several aliases, one of which he used to direct hentai. Now, he's like a mentor to all the directors at SHAFT. His influence on the industry is pretty noticeable since he trains so many people.
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>>118701055
The KnK movies should have some good quality artwork.
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>>118698697
This >>118690797
is Star of Cottonland.
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Your picture's aspect ratio is wrong.
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>>118701800
I loved the ending in the first episode.
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>>118698180

Cannon Fodder > Magnetic Rose > Stink Bomb
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>>118706647
I'd kill an infant for a series or full OVA with Cannon Fodder's aesthetic
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I don't have any images but Wings of Honneamise is packed to the fucking brim with great cinematography.
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How can you tell if something has 'good direction' ?
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>>118682813

Is that show any good

is there a blu ray release
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