How is there no Bleach thread?
I like the new development in this chapter. Yhwach looks threatening and creepy as fuck. I love it.
His power is broken as shit and would need a huge asspull to beat unless he was lying.. Goddamn kubo
Are you talking about Aizen?
Yhwach has a broken ability, it has to be expected.
Because fucking nothing has happened in Bleach for the past 100 chapters. This Quincy guy is going to beat the Zero Division guy and then Ichigo will beat him. Why do you even bother reading this anymore? I'm sure watching painting drying has more surprises than this
Who? The idiot who got killed by based Bazz-B who used a mere Burner Finger 1?
unless the translation is wrong, he basically said he understands everything he sees and to understand is the same as having a way to beat something.
Aizen's ability had a weakness and he put himself in a position to lose (lol plot). It's pretty different from "I understand all I see and beat everything I understand"
Was Aizen really a power hungry psychopath with a god complex? Or was he really trying to point out that the Soul King isn't as good of a person as people were led on to believe.
His conversation with Urahara enlightened me to this possibility
Nah, he means Kira. But I guess he forgot that Kira is dead:
Also, even if he was alive, Kira couldn't touch Yhwach. I'm pretty sure nobody can at this point unless they get some plot armor (Ichigo of course, or maybe Shunsui and Ukitake with whatever that weird eye thing turns out to be).
Kubo made it painfully clear that Yhwach is beyond broken. Read my pic.
I would say he was both of those. He saw through the deception of Soul Society and the Soul King and decided that because of his abnormally strong powers, he would take it upon himself to usurp the Soul King and become the god who fixes everything to his liking.
Man... Yhwach just don't understand..
His weakness was his shikai didn't work if you didn't see it and it was shown several times that he could be overpowered. I think this point is hammered home by the quincy war because it showed just how shit the SS really was outside of yamamoto. He was so afraid of the old man he had to find a way to seal his powers. In the end he lost a straight up power vs power fight.
>mfw Yhwach jobs the rest of the royal guard and starts changing the royal palace to his version of heaven after taking over the soul king
It would be cool for once if the villain can succeed with his plan for once (albeit temporarily since ichigo still has to job him)
but he's right though. A lot of bleach threads go to shit when idiots complain about all the asspull powers and plot points when they either have yet to be resolved or have already been subtly solved in previous chapters.
The shikai's weakness is negligeable and concern just Tosen.
And his main weakness remains his arrogance. Aizen isn't strong enough to challenge the Royal Guard without the Hogyoku, the thing which abandon him at this point.
As for now, Aizen has a mid-Royal Guard level, certainly not as strong as Ichibei, but has still his shikai as a trump card. I don't think he is strong enough to challenge Yhwach. Unless his Bankai is in a complete new level, but can still be stealed. Also, whose who reveal their Bankai's and aren't named Ichi and co are all doomed.
I thought Tosen was under the control of Kyoka and that the whole "you have to see it" requirement was bullshit?
Also if that was the case, then why didnt kubo make tosen the one to take down aizen?
It's strong implied that yhwach wasn't as strong then as he is now. Think about it, he had 1000 years of quincies training, killing, sharing his blood, etc. to beef himself up. That time could have also been enough for him to master his powers. The way they described it at the beginning of the war is while the shinigami were enjoying peace, the quincy were busting their ass preparing for war for 1000 years.
Because, you know, Aizen is a villain of the show because of ASSPULL. Kubo intended to make Gin and Urahara as the main villains at the time of the volume 12, aka Aizen's death. His death was geniune, until Kubo decided to name Aizen as a villain, because he suddely had "inspiration". Same for Tosen.
Not really Gremmy was just as hax and Ichigo will beat Yhwach by being transcendental. Hax in Bleach is useless against far more reiatsu.
That sound really plausible.
Ichigo shares with Ishida his "survived the purge" Quincy trait. Yhwach's powers did not work on them meaning he did not know how their immunity came to be.
I'm still thinking Uryuu is one of the 5.
Aizen fucks with senses, so his understanding would be fundamentally flawed too - he would not experience the mechanics of illusions due to his senses being fooled.
As for Kenpachi - his actual power is beyond comprehension, which has been settled by this dragged out fight with Gremmy - the closest an embodiment of imagination got to beating Kenpachi was trying to become him, and failing.
Most likely Ichigo is Yhwach's real succesor and ishida is just a bait after all Yhwach already knows the outcome. Aizen bankai is unknown and can be even more dangerous than Ichibei powers but even his shikai is perfect counter for yhwach especially in combination with trascendant reiatsu.
How? Were Aizen or Urahara really popular or unpopular or something? I honestly think Urahara would've made a lot more sense, even if I can't imagine Bleach without Aizen anymore and he has become all that is Bleach.
>making Gin and Urahara the culprits by volume 12
Nah, that would've been so cliche making Gin one of the main villains since his whole grinning schtick would've made it too obvious.
This isn't asspull it was already established that reiatsu negate abilities in case of very big difference in reiatsu and transcendentals can't be affected by non-transcendentals hax is irrelevant to this. There is nothing suggesting that Yhwach has transcendental reiatsu. Reitsu>abilities in Bleach,
Kubo's one of those guys who pans out the plot and important people right in front of your eyes without you realizing it right away. the last war potential is someone we already know who has some hax qualities to him/her. It's probably going to be Urahara. Kubo might reveal something about Urahara's past that would make him plausibly hax enough to be a war potential
Yes, he is designed to be as creepy as possible. It backfired, because of fangirls finded him "cutay <33" Kubo was really surprised by this reaction
I think it's was still Urahara the main villain, and Gin - his sidekick, just like with Aizen.
I always had a thing for fox foxes
didn't think fangirl did as well
I don't think he had these kinds of powers during the last war. If he did, he wouldn't have lost. And I'm not even sure if he did "lose." Mayuri mentioned to Yamamoto at one point that Yama "failed to kill that man." That might just mean that Yhwach escaped after he realized that he needed more power to take down SS and the Soul King.
I'm thinking at this point that it might have been something more like a tactical retreat. Maybe that whole 9,999 years thing was just a prolonged powerup to get to where he is now. Since we know that without absorbing people's souls, Yhwach regresses into a hapless, infant-like state. It would explain why he needed so long for people to propagate the Quincy bloodline and then draw power from them.
Honestly, now that I think about it, I'm seeing a lot of parallels between Yhwach and the Dwarf in the Flask Homunculus from the Fullmetal Alchemist manga and Brotherhood anime. A villain that starts small and helpless, yet has the knowledge and ability to rise to power from manipulating people.
Kenpachi consequently broke each and every thing Gremmy threw at him. Not without damage, but still.
Gremmy tried to reach his level by becoming him and he got royally fucked by this in a very Nietzsche-esque way.
Kind of this.
We still havent seen his bankai yet.
All we know is that its a special type of bankai.
Hey... what if.. it can absorb the reiatsu of any indiviual it wants along wth their abilities?
Urahar will wait for ichigo to deliver the final blow to Ywha and jump in and take his powers for himslef and be invincible
He died because he imagined monster kenpachi inside of him who killed him his imagination can be dangerous to himself. He could have killed kenpachi easily by imagining his head explode instead of throwing stupid shit at him.
I think it would be cooler if Yhwach succeeds in becoming the Soul King and to prevent anyone from rebelling against him, he writes out new laws of reality onto two stone tablets that resemble the ten commandments. And only one of the war potentials can destroy the tablets allowing Ichigo to fight Yhwach
I will love kubo if he goes that route.
>Since we know that without absorbing people's souls, Yhwach regresses into a hapless, infant-like state.
That's what I meant - that he loses sense and power. Hence, and infant-like state. Not that he actually turns back into infant.
>Actually you did not kill me! My True Name Strike Evolved Bankai makes me in charge of Darker Than Black - death!
>Actually you're still wrong, because my Final 12 Chaos Gem Full Incantation Vollstanding can block the powers that counter my powers, so you can't!
Seriously, his poem directly relates to nihilism and you're going to deny he died due to "monster/abyss" quote?
Not really. It's not like Im creating some edgy character with retarded hair and a retarded nonsensical, impractical sword.
nah, he wouldn't want something as stupid as power for himself. The final goal is probably to kill the soul king or something of the like. Which is why he and aizen have been working together to create a human/shinigami/hollow/quincy/fullbringer/yhch combo to kill him with.
Ichigo lost fullbring and he is basically quincy shinigami powers possessed by the Hollow. However funny thing is that despite having all these powers his only ability are simple energy blasts. Basically has has least imaginative ability in the series,
Nobody knew about it.
Oetsu even mentions that the only things he knew about Ywach's powers were what he saw from his fights with Yamamoto (One 1000 years ago, and the other Ryod impersonating Ywach).
1000 years ago he didn't have access to his Almighty power. Otherwise he wouldn't have lost against Yama.
He doesn't need it here his own ability is far superior to zanka no tachi but he may need to use against Ichigo who can negate his almighty.
He obviously didn't have it yet or he would new outcome of that war before it started.
>Ability to see the future
>Aizen screwed up my timing
>If he opened his eyes even a moment early all SternRitters would lose their powers
>Aizen was able to make him see a false future
So Aizen is the only hope
Not sure if anyone noticed but when Yhwach had one iris, his eyes were "closed"
When he got his second iris on each eye, he became omniscient and could see what will happen into the future and on top of his omniscience is his ability to understand all abilities and to counter them meaning that he now has to power to counter anything that will get in his way
Before Yhwach blew up ichibei, you see in one small panel that he gets a third iris (the art implies so) and with the third iris he is able to "make all powers my allies" meaning that he can now CONTROL Ichibei's power and used his uber-hado Mausoleum technique to crush him in the manner that Ichibei implied would happen to Yhwach.
Last chapter didn't end with Ichibei torn to pieces.
Also, remember how Yama died? The last page of the chapter was him getting hit by Ywach attack, much like it happened here.
But now that i think about it, we haven't seen Shutara ever since the cage was made and she dispelled her illusion. Only MILF and Kinjiri showed up to help Oetsu when he got shot.
For all we know, she's been weaving lots of shit in the background and saved Ichibei's ass at the last moment.
I didn't say he would make her relevant. Kenpachi was a war potential too. Doesn't mean a thing, other than, maybe she would do something. Or maybe he wouldn't outright kill her because of it, so in that sense it's just a plot shield, which is convenient considering she's going up against a literal God.
I neve really thought of this much. In a parallel universe where Kubo is a better writer and actually develops his characters, Orihime could have been the person to beat Barragan.
Of course in that universe she would also be a good character. Or at least still quirky like during SS.
>If Kubo's going to make orihime relevant again
That ship sailed long ago and sunk. Her time to shine was in Hueco Mundo arc but her role was discarded in favor of Fake Karakura.
Same with Chad, his time to shine was during Fullbringer saga, but fan and editor pressure made Kubo rush things and drop everything he planned for Chad.
They are only in the rocket towards Royal Palace because muh Ishida, the guy that actually has a chance to shine now if Kubo doesn't go and rush/discard things for a third time.
Ichigo will beat him simply because has has or will have far more reiatsu than him. Only problem is Yhwach should already know if Ichigo will beat him or not but we don't know his goal and plans about ichigo.
So if Souten Kisshun rejects all events under the shield and Respira accelerates the timeframe of everything it touches, what happens if Respira is under the shield of Souten Kisshun?
1. They nullify each other
2. They pass through each other (irresistable force vs immovable object)
3. We find out which stands higher in spiritual hierarchy. My bet would be on the conceptual removal, because Respira really just accelerated entropy. It was not really reality bending. Barragan himself had a special barrier around him that protected him from it. So it was no completely irresistable.
You haven't seen shit yet.
If it's supposed to be similar to YHWH, then "Yaw-wahk". However, his name is pronounced as ユーハバッハ, which when rendered as roman characters is pronounced Yuuhabahha, or more helpfully rendered would likely sound like "YEW-haw-baw-HAH," with caps for syllable emphasis
Orihime could reject things that were leagues outside of her power class. She rejected the foul energy in Ichigo's wound after Ulquiorra impaled him even though by all means she was outclassed.
I think it's kubo being chuuni and trying really really fucking hard to get the sound at the end of "Bach", the almost yiddish "H" sound.
Yuuchbach, just fucking spit those ch's out like you're trying to dislodge something in your throat.
>Aizen disrupted Yhwach's perception of time and altered his foresight
Oh god, it's happening
>You now realize that the reason why Aizen is a warring potential is because Yhwach has foreseen that he will fuck shit up
What does it look like.
>oc do not steal pls
Aizen is the real boss. He doesn't need The Asspull.
Aizen's letter is 0 - the keikaku.
Since when did you think letters went from A-Z?
>Yhwach has 3 pupils in each eye
>Soul King has 4 pupils in each eye
>therefore Soul King is more Almighty
Oh my actual fuck I think he gets paid for these
You need to remember Aizens pep-talk in FKKT. Fights in Bleach are fights of reiatsu. Soi-Fongs 2 hit kill move didnt even work because of her relatively weak reiatsu. If your spirit pressure is beneath your opponent your techs wont work.
Judging by that, Kira wouldnt even work. Even if he did get Royal Guard training.
He actually had nine but Aizen a shit eyes anyway. He only had 1 pupil in each eye. It's all about the pupils.
Aizen was ascended way above Yhwach and probably the Soul King.
Ichigo and Aizen were on a different plane than anything we've seen. The kokotsu exploded just by coming in contact with Aizen.
Let's see Yhwach do that.
still not convinced Aizen actually has to power to manipulate perception of time, and that it isnt just the scanlators being retarded and not knowing how to translate "he made me lose track of time"
The Quincy will lose their powers, regardless. According to Haschwalt, it is the act of using The Almighty during the 9 years of power that causes the Quincy powers to revert to Bach.
>Ywach can't steal the power of someone who can "surpass" him
>Aizen is a war potential
put 2 and 2 together buddy. Aizen may not be much atm, but he was pretty damn powerful when he was tripping on hogyoku
I wish Bleach could have some strategy to their fights instead of every fight being a dick measurement contest. With the latest powers introduced that has absolutely no possibility of happening any more.
That doesn't make sense. Unless Yhwach saw the war potentials a thousand years in the past (and if so holy shit), how could he use known that his Almighty had abilities he could foresee but couldn't understand? According to Jugram this is the first time he's opened them in the modern era.
I've been reading it as Yahweh but I think the Japanese pronounce it as Juhabaha
Figurative language. Yhwach is being heavily played as a literal god. Part of his existence is being able to see into the future. He was unable to do so up until now, so the majority of his field of vision was wiped out effectively making him blind.
You just made yourself look extremely stupid.
Well, maybe in giving Ishida the spotlight he can somehow weave Orihime into that
and make my one Bleach ship canon
As for Chad he can die an awesome heroic death or something.
There is no argument.
Aizen can make his foe see anything he wants them to see. Do you not understand that?
He can turn himself into a fly.
Also, you have called me a retard like four times now, and you didn't even present an argument.
I'm prettty sure it's phonetically pronounced yu-ha-ba-ha
But it's fucking Hebrew translated to English translated to Japanese, and translated again back into English. So it doesn't really matter.
Your lack of grammar, proper spelling, and syntax is not doing wonder for your current rep.
Make you should take a break and fucking lurk before you try to post again?
Just some advice.
That would be weird but hey, I wouldn't mind that much
I'm going to write you a new name. It's called "Nigger".
Now go get a job.
>this fucking thread
niggerfaggots the whole lot of you
Ywach's "A" power lets him see the future and know pretty much anything and everything
No wonder he found Luders Friegen pretentious
In fact, it pretty much justifies all of the prophecies surrounding Yhwach and his return to power. Which means that at this time 1000 years ago, Yhwach could at least see 1000 years or more to the point where the prophecy was fulfilled.
Meaning that as he is right now, Yhwach has already seen the end of Bleach. That's fucking meta, Kubo.
>tfw Yhwach knows if Ichigo and Rukia will get together
I wonder if he is happy about the outcome?
Because Yama was a beast. Yhwach was not as strong then as he is now; it's probable that even with his Almighty his battle with Yama might have been unwinnable. It also explains why he went through such lengths to see Yamamoto's power before fighting him; to eliminate any chance of failure.
Did you even read my post? I can't really say how their power 1000 years ago compared to their power now, which is why I'm hoping for a flashback from Monk's perspective very soon.
Okay so in terms of hax powers here we go
-1. plot armor - Ichigo
0. Hougyoku and KS - (keikaku) - Aizen
1. Asspull - Yhwach
2. Ichimonji - Oshou
3. Zanka no Tachi - Yamamoto
4. Kamishinino yari - Gin
5. Pipe bombs - Mizuiro
Stern ritter powers don't count besides Yhwach's because who cared about them anyway.
yeah, back in the day Yama had two arms. Remember how gimped Grimmjow was when he lost his?
Also ichibei and yama's powers are different. Ichibei's powers allow him to weaken his opponent, whereas Yama's zanpakuto is just even more overwhelming power. Its like debuffing the enemy vs buffing yourself. One helps you win by weakening the enemy, one by making you stronger
Kenpachi is one of the 5 because there is no "understanding" nor "countermeasure". Kenpachi is insane and just hits things REALLY hard. In a series with manipulation and warping powers, he's just pure brute force.
Ichigo just gets powers as the plot demands. Aizen of course can do minor reality warping.
Uryuu is probably one of the 5 as well, due to surviving the purge and having lots of brute Quincy power.
I figure Orihime is one of the other 5. She's pretty much a flat out reality warper.
Uryuu's dad was a fullblooded Quincy, so wasn't affected by the purge. He has recently used his powers (thus how Uryuu got his back), so he didn't toss them away.
No Yama is fodder compared to ichibei 1000 years he proably had higher reiatsu but thats all. Yhwach was at best Royd level or below since according to yamamoto he only have had arrows and sword.
Ichibei bankai can change properties by changing the name and his shikai can destroy opponent completely to the extent it can prevent reincarnation. He also has his 1000ri arms and legs.
You do realize that this chapter confirmed that Yhwach can both predict the future to 100% accuracy and then counter any ability as long as he knows what it does/will do? Are you understanding this correctly? Kyouka Suigetsu and Tousen's bankai do not account for literal foresight, and even if they did I'm sure Yhwach is still more powerful, as both of their powers can be countered by touching the blade. Yhwach can predict where it will be and thus eliminate any chance of injury.
Aizen is warring potential #2, which means his threat level is just under Ichigo's.
Yhwach is afraid of Aizen, which is why he tried to recruit him.
He recruited Ishida because he is more powerful than him.
yeah Ichibei is all kinda of hax, and he is fairly powerful in his own right. But his main powers (name funkery and darkness) seems to work by altering the strength of his opponent.
Yama's strength on the other hand is entirely his own. He doesnt weaken his enemy, he simply powers up further. In Bleach, being stronger than the enemy is greater than being able to weaken the enemy to below your level, because those who are truly greater in strength can always no-sell an opponents ability (see Aizen vs Soifon, or Kenpachi vs Ichigo). What I'm getting at is that Yama would have been much more powerful 1000 years ago, possibly so powerful that Ywach couldnt just open his eyes and lol nope Yama's power.
>Kubo intended to make Gin and Urahara as the main villains
This would have been much better. Gin being a sleeper agent but eventually himself having some sort of massive goal about the soul king
>Yhwach is afraid of Aizen, which is why he tried to recruit him.
That may not be specifically because of Kyouka Suigetsu, and isn't decisive evidence for your case. It likely has much more to do with Aizen's literal immortality that makes him dangerous.
There may be more significance to it than simply having power. Remember that it technically also contains thousands of burning corpses he could potentially use as an energy source.
Yhwach never used this ability against Yamamoto and there is no way bankai Yamamoto could beat ichibei he would get killed with 1000ri and darkness. 1000 years ago only abilities Yhwach had according to yamamoto were regular sword and arrows. Yamamoto was never transcendant or nowhere close to it.
Kenpachi underperformed; Yhwach somehow knew he could be a threat, yet did not know that his true power had not been reached at that time.
Yhwach predicted that only 5 opponents could potentially stop his plans-thus is Ichigo, Aizen, Kenpachi +2 others teamed up against him he'd end up with a self-fulfilling prophecy- thus he is actually defeated by his own power If this was your plan: Bra-fucking-vo, Kubo.
I completely expect Aizen and Ichigo to team up against Yhwach or soul king at one point in the story.
It will be awesome.
>I figure Orihime is one of the other 5. She's pretty much a flat out reality warper.
We're told her powers are hax but have we really seen her do anything amazing with them? We know she's pretty much the best healer in the series but that doesn't make her a threat to Ywach. I wish we could've seen her try to reject the Hyogyoko so we could see just how powerful her abilities are.
Ok. Just the expected Bleach routine, I guess.
Honestly I think that would be a cop-out.
>Hey Aizen I know you're basically just as bad as Yhwach and will turn on us as soon as you get the chance, but hey we'll let you go if you promise to help us, mmk?
I'd prefer him to remain in the role of an indirect aid against Yhwach, Hannibal Lecter style.
he never used his ability in his recent fight with Yama, but we have no idea what happened 1000 years ago.
But the fact is that 1000 years ago Yama unleashed a beatdown on Ywach that he crippled him for 1000 years. So he either overcame Ywach's "A" and his power stealing abilities, or Ywach never used them. And not using them makes no sense other than lol kubo
Aizen has raised Ichigo since he was a kid, taught him shit, trained him, etc.
Ichigo knows Aizen's true feelings now.
You can't stop it anon
Maybe because at the time Bach didn't fully understand the Shinigami. Maybe he wasn't even aware of what was shikai and bankai.
Maybe Yama cheated. We were told the guy was capable of doing anything to win, right?
she's like Gohan, incredibly powerful but a usless
but seriously, he powers are incredibly hax, she's going up to the royal realm and who else could be numero 5 of the war potential?
He is talking about Quicnies killing hollows and removing them from the cycle and how they got genocided for it. It's "funny" considering the top Shimgami also has the same ability
>Yhwachs ability to predict futire wasn't active when he chose war potentials
You missed out on a significant discussion piece, here: >>118537485
Essentially your statement goes unproven. Losing to Yama doesn't mean he couldn't see the future- it's more likely that's his natural ability which got stronger with time, as is the case with the entirety of the Vandenreich.
yeah both work i guess. Nobodies going to know until Kubo explains it.
still, Ywach made a big deal about how weaker Yama was, both in mind and in strength (see pic >>118538740). Losing that arm probably meant Yama lost a lot of his overall power (Grimmjow lost so reiatsu when he lost his arm that he was booted right out of the Espada), so I dunno, maybe Yama was strong enough 1000 years ago to lol nope Ywach's abilities
>Maybe because at the time Bach didn't fully understand the Shinigami. Maybe he wasn't even aware of what was shikai and bankai.
Maybe Yama cheated. We were told the guy was capable of doing anything to win, right?
This do not matter because he can see distant future. So he must have known what is shikai and bankai if he had that ability back then. Maybe he lost on purpose because he predicted he must lose so that ichigo will be born.
>OPN parodies literally every shounen ever
> calling it the 'Bleach routine' is just ignorant.
Just because every other shounen does it doesn't mean it isn't the Bleach routine, you know.
>but seriously, he powers are incredibly hax, she's going up to the royal realm and who else could be numero 5 of the war potential?
I think this is sadi once every thread. I agree though. At the very least the Ghostbuters arc could've been stretched out a bit to flesh out the human characters more so when their relevance faded in the subsequent arcs we at least got to know them better.
I liked the Arrancer arc up until FKT. At that point it got bad but I could see other people getting tired of it earlier than that.
>He probably can't use this power too much. It is clear he has some sort of limit.
Even if this was the case, there's really no support for it (as of the last 2 chapters). We're still very much in the dark as to the exact mechanics of 'The Almighty'; assuming that it must have a limit because it must have a weakness is folly.
It is both and neither.
Or not. Maybe it isn't the Bleach routine, since it doesn't happen in Bleach everytime.
Bleach is a shounen, and that is both the other Shounen's routine and Bleach routine.
Or it isn't even a routine, unless you see things this way.
Aizen wanted to make friends?
>assuming that it must have a limit because it must have a weakness is folly.
It must have a weakness, otherwise the only other way to explaining him losing to Yama 1000 years ago is by saying he faked it because of some sort of plan.
>It must have a weakness, otherwise the only other way to explaining him losing to Yama 1000 years ago is by saying he faked it because of some sort of plan.
Yeah, that could be the case. Or not. But you don't actually have enough evidence to make that claim either way.
But that could simply be called 'having high reiatsu'. Aizen was transcendent because he became more than either Shinigami or Hollow; Ichigo has always been more than Shinigami or Hollow. It means nothing outside of the context of their encounter during Deicide.
Or maybe she's just as great in canon and doesn't appeal to your personal tastes.
Yama said himself Yhwachs only ability other than sword are his arrows. So it means he didnt even use his spells on yamamoto. So he must have had some plant or did not have access to these abilities for some reason,
Why don't ichigo's sisters get any love? They're half everything too
Do you have a source for that quote? There's not necessarily any reason for us to believe that Yamamoto knew that Yhwach had the power to see the future. You are simply assuming that because he never used it against Yama specifically, he did not possess the power. You're not looking at any of this from the perspective of omniscience.
Heretic. I knew you were a landwhale the second you suggest Orihime was a good character.
Go circle jerk with debbie-chan at FLOL
Because she is a pure and loyal maiden
She could stand to be a little more proactive though
She is best drawn by Kubo himself.
Am I seeing things or is her midriff covered up there?
I think Ichigo is the only one who got whitey. still, they should be shinigami/quincy hybrids and be potentially very powerful. Karin started doing stuff in Karakura town after Ichigo was depowered so its likely she's starting to discover some of her powers.
more likely though, kubo just doesnt care
>But you don't actually have enough evidence to make that claim either way.
Maybe, but you really can't see nothing against it. You won't be able to find something that makes it impossible in the manga.
>she's like Gohan, incredibly powerful but a usless
It's willpower based, and she's a fucking doormat. I can't see her actually putting full force into her power until something crazy happens
like Ichigo, Chad, or Uryuu nearly dying.
Well, this thread is over. Seeya on the next one guys.
>beings from the lower dimensions like yhwach
>from the lower dimensions
You're trying to give a definition to a concept that was purposefully withheld from us. We haven't even seen the definitive 'transcendent' outside of a pair of panels. You're being much too hasty.
For the love of Ywach can we please not do this again?
>Do you have a source for that quote?
I think he was talking about Bleach 508, where Yama says Yhwach has only his arrows after his sword is broken, but in the same chapter that is proven false.
And eventually we learned it wasn't even the real Yhwach.
I'm not surprised. The biggest problem with these threads seem to be when /a/nons get caught on minute details instead of trying to look at the picture at large and we get new pieces of the puzzle every week.
Kubo is as unpredictable as always.
Determining who Ichigo gets with in the end is actually easier than determining future events.
Uh, no but it seemed like an appropriate image. I hope I didn't
Ywach just wants to replace the Soul King's tyrannical Monarchy with a constitutional democracy. He is a true American
>Determining who Ichigo gets with in the end is actually easier than determining future events.
Of course, its obvious the winner of the Bleach Bowl will be
Yes it was proven wrong but that was all Yhwach had 1000 years ago according to Yamamoto so he was at best on Royd level. After all Royd was strong enough to trick yama.
That's a trait of 'transcendents', not a definition. COnsidering Ichigo was untouchable by Aizen, does that make Ichigo a 'double' transcendent? It's nonsense to try and apply this to Yhwach at this time; for all we know his schrift trumps powerlevels by concept alone.
Hey, someone's got to keep the discussion moving.
>but that was all Yhwach had 1000 years ago according to Yamamoto so he was at best on Royd level. After all Royd was strong enough to trick yama.
Did you miss something? We've already established your source as unreliable.
Lets be honest here, one of the main reasons people even follow Bleach is to see who will win the Ichigo Bowl
what bizarro /a/ did you crawl out from? No one gives a shit about the shipping. Even when Bleach's fanbase as at its strongest the shippers weren't particularly numerous, and those numbers have dwindled drastically in the past decade.
By a handful of people posting that shit. Notice how everyone leaves when people start dumping Rukia pics. Just because shippers post a lot doesn't mean they're large in number.
The anon who said the war potentials probably revolved around Ywhach not being able to calculate their true power was right.
People like Ichigo and Kenpachi powers can fluctuate and change out of literally nowhere. Kenpachi gets stronger than himself all the time.
Aizen as well if the Hougyoku still loves him.
I wanted to see more of all of the Karakura cast, along with the side characters like Chizuru, Tatsuki, Keigo, and Mizuiro. Really the only Shinigami I wanted a lot more of coming into this last arc was Rukia.
I remember a bunch of years ago I came up with a Bleach OC who was basically a fat neckbeard guy from the 12th division who would build these crappy gigais, each with a different purpose like combat and housekeeping, and they were all bad lookalikes of Rangiku and his life mission was to build a gigai that was a perfect lookalike.
He was part of this story I had in mind about this group of Shinigami who defected like 200 years ago and vowed to take down SS. They never appeared again but every time there was even the slightest lead Yama would force a group of Shinigami to follow it up even though they all hated it because they never lead anywhere. Except for Rangiku, who preferred getting drunk and running around Rukongi following these leads instead of doing her paper work.
It took place in between the time skip when Ichigo didn't have his powers. Rangiku shows up and asks for help from Chad, Orihime, and Ishida and so they cancel their plans to hang out with Ichigo and watch a movie to help her. When they get to SS the other Shinigami inform them that its basically a wild goose chase and it turns out Rangiku just wanted extra company while she got wasted.
>the soul king is a dead-beat
With Yhawch's powers detailed in those chapters about his past, it makes sense. How was Yhwach born in the first place? He's a soul-baby most likely abandoned because the soul-king had an accident with one of his royal guards.
>Rangiku will never get Orihime drunk
>Yhwach thinks he's won
>Shutara's illusion peels back again...
>... to reveal this time: Aizen & co. in FKT?!
>"My Kyoga Suigetsu combined with Royal Guard illusions can fool even God. We've been in FKT this whole time."
Ishida isn't a SWP as no one knew the fuck who he was or was he was Yhwach's successor.
Urahara isn't an SWP as Quilge Opie(sp?) didn't say anything about him when he was in HM.
Same as Urahara. She wasn't mentioned by Sternritter "J" so she isn't an SWP.
See above. Though I wonder if Chad will ever get an upgrade. What was the whole point of his training in the Fullbring arc without achieving an upgrade?
At least one SWP is not a shinigami according to Kubo. Arrancars have always been shitty and useless and with the current #1 being captured it only makes sense that none of the lower arrancars are either.
>lmao Grimmjow being anything other than a shit.
Chad isn't one. Orihime isn't one. Not including the non-shinigami people with spirit powers that appear rarely like the Urahara kids, Don Kanonji, mod souls, etc. that only leaves Ryuken and Fullbringers.
Ryuken, I don't know, he doesn't give a shit about Quincies?
Ginjo. I've thought for the longest time that he'd be an SWP. People just think he's fodder from Ichigo "getting his powers back" arc but at least from interviews it seemed like Kubo had bigger plans for the Fullbring arc and to make him a more bigger, badder villain than we got. His ability to share powers is interesting, kinda similar to Yhwach.
Tsukishima/Facebook. It never really occurred to me since Ginjo being the leader (ie. strongest) but his Book of the End could pull some interesting shenanigans by fucking up Yhwach's past.
They actually run into the defectors. Two are more serious fighters and they get killed but three of them, like the neckbeard, are more comedic characters and using drunk Orihime whom they kidnapped in a sneak attack as leverage they get Soi Fon to agree to letting them back into the Gotei 13. Except they all get shit jobs, like one who cheap shotted Reni now has to do roofing for the 6th division, a girl with some shadow powers becomes Soi Fon's errand girl, and the neck beard has to do Rangikus paper work because now she has no excuse to fuck off to Rukongi so instead she just gets drunk in her office while the neckbeard does her paper work and sneaks off hair samples for his perfect gigai and tries to cope a feel here and there when Rangiku passes out.
There was IshiHime bait snuck in there and Hanatarou appeared too. Man if I could illustrate I would draw that thing,
Daily reinder. Infinitely better world building, writing, and characterization than Kubo Tite's manga.
Also Aizen and Gin are perfect. (Rukia is MC)
Bwahaha! My secret power has been unleashed! Now my arm is back and my name isn't ach!
>paint it black ren-chan
Bwahahaha! I am the Almighty!
>literally whatever this weeks filler was some kind of palace or someshit?
H-he mearly had his eyes closed! N-Now he has 4 eyes!
>hes got 4eyes lmao
le parting ways fece inb4 see you next week meme (^:
>He's probably stronger than Harribel now.
That's not a compliment though and to be fair he could only be relevant if he is strong as full power Ulquiorra or full power Starrk.
I just realized that ichigo has done the same shit Bach hae. He gave other people who he's close with powers. Hopefully this will result in him taking back Orihimes power and fucking shit up
If Yhwach is God and the quincy are all his angels, then who is the Lucifer equivalent?
Ichigo? Haschwalth? Uryu?
When is Aizen referring to?
There's a fair amount of Lucifer parallism in Aizen's story.
Good his inspiration gave us AIZEN SOUSUKE.