Spooky monk's ride has ended...
im starting to think kubo might be bad at this
That was an awesome chapter.
>>118207506
Daily reminder Aizen bred, fathered, and trained Ichigo to become his new Zanpakutou to defeat the soul king.
>>118207506
Man he was really the spookiest.
Speaking of Momo, she was convinced that Captain Aizen must have had good reasons for what he was doing, right?
>>118207908
Yes. Momo is the only one who really knows Aizen's intentions.
The foreshadowing is so obvious.
>>118207908
She got over it after hanging out with Shinji. There's a side story and everything about them. Momo's cute, she could of got a bankai.
Being Momo is suffering. Also i just remembered that she is a vice captain. How the fuck did she manage that?
>>118207506
>Spooky monk's ride has ended...
>ended
Nah not yet. He's only been killed once. Still got at least 10 chapters of killing the unkillable after getting unkilled by the perfect killer.
>>118208054
But she still referred to Aizen as "Captain" Aizen the last time we heard her speak of him.
>>118208057
She's actually pretty powerful with Kido and her Zanpakuto is strong. She nuked Harribel's Fraccion and they had to use Ressurreccion to beat her.
For how long will Kubo continue to troll us?
>>118208057
The whole vice captain and captain thing is weird, because almost all vice captains and captains have been stated to be of a power level above what is appropriate, which makes the ones of normal power seem like chumps
So, does Bach's ability effectIvely make him Laplace's Demon? Also, is this why he was mad about wannabe prophets?
This chapter straight up irritated me.
I knew monk was going to get beat, barring some kind of awesome twist that was the only option. I knew Jubi was going to pull through, of course he's not going down that easy.
I was just pissed off by the whole "nah, I'm just immune to your powers" thing, especially after up until now he's been getting his ass beat.
Have him pull of a neat trick or technique and then say some shit like "That was close, without BLITZKRIEG GERMANSOUNDINGWURD I might have died there"
But no, we just get my little cousin's "nuh uh, I had a forcefield the whole time and your guy's lasers cant break them" excuse
>>118208789
Kubo has created the ultimate villain: One who can't be harmed by people who explain the full extent of their powers to him.
In Bleach he is unstoppable.
>>118208916
The MS translation suggests something different than the Panda one, though.
Why doesn't they just nuke Ywach?
Yhwach's power is to see/understand something from any given perspective.
Meaning that he didn't forget his name because fat monk still knew it, and he could see his own name from his perspective.
I lost interest big time in the Bleach manga after Rukia died. Are the later chapters really worth reading?
If accelerator and madara teamed up could they beat yhwach?
>>118208534
Since when were you under the impression that there is a end to it?
>>118209103
>after Rukia died
she is alive anon
>>118209103
Yes, because you missed Rukia using her Bankai.
>>118209176
Are we talking about normal Madara or..?
Could Yhwach the king of ants beat Netero the king of ants?
>>118207777
Quads confirm.
>>118207777
No it wasnt. It was another fucking ass pull
>>118209064
Oh. That actually makes a lot of sense.
>>118209176
Accel would be lost against any abstract power, and Bleach is full with those.
>>118208817
>But no, we just get my little cousin's "nuh uh, I had a forcefield the whole time and your guy's lasers cant break them" excuse
Fucking this, it's like that stupid tails vs sephiroth thing.
>>118209793
>asspull
Stop using that word for things it doesn't mean. It was a dumb power but it was by no means an asspull, most of us saw this coming over a month ago.
You know, Aizen didn't actually tell anyone about his power until he was sure that he got everyone and owned the plot device.
He should have never told, but hey, at least not too bad.
>>118209793
No it really wasn't.
>>118209064
The issue isn't him forgetting his name, that's just a byproduct of Ichibei's power. The concept of the name itself has been taken away.
Yhwach just has the ability to restore it.
>>118209214
I'm not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. Hell, I'm not even talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara. I'm not talking Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara. I'm talking about Sage of Six Paths Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano'o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu, a third eye Rinnegan capable of casting Infinite Tsukuyomi, and five Limbo shadows which protect him from all physical harm.
>>118210212
I forgot tons of shit, was that actually in the story?
>>118210212
thank you
>>118210263
Yes, it got fucking ridiculous.
>>118210305
>it got fucking ridiculous
I certainly remember that part.
>>118210212
You forgot
>divine tree absorbed
>>118210212
Yhwach is the only one who can actually understand what all of that shit means. And so he would win.
>>118207506
>>118207506
>>118207506
pic related
Hmm I thought of something. If the Monk's power is to name someone anything he wants and in effect change their characteristics wouldn't he be able to power someone up to make them invincible, godlike etc.? For example, what if he just called someone 'God' or 'Undefeatable' or 'Winner'. In that sense, he could power up Ichigo or someone else to be able to win any fight, even against Yhwach...
>>118210653
Are you stupid?
>>118210626
You have posted this like 3 times in 2 threads.
We don't give a fuck about your shitty theories. Do everyone a favor and start tripping so we can filter you just like LabMember.
>>118210626
Just fuck off. No one cares about your autistic 3deep5u theories
>>118210626
>cleanliness
For someone who never gets dirty
>sustenance
For someone who never eats
>clothing
For someone who never change his clothes
>self defense
For someone who can't be attacked
>art/pastimes
For someone who is always busy
>>118210653
Because chances are his power doesn't work that way and we take the explanation given too literally.
When he named Yhwach "black ant" he didn't literally mean he was an ant strength-wise. One ant wouldn't survive the 2 attacks that Yhwach survived. By naming him ant he probably meant that he's like an ant, fragile, weak (in comparison to a superior being), powerless.
Chances are too that he can't give powers beyonds his own powers, like naming someone God.
>>118208916
So Gin is the only one who could beat him?
>>118211055
>Gin's bankai was literally God-Slaying Spear
>>118211098
Considering it could defeat Hogyoku Aizen, it's a fairly accurate name.
>>118208916
He doesn't need a explanation. He just need to "understand" the power.
>>118211178
>Considering it could defeat Hogyoku Aizen
Except not really. It could probably kill anyone but Hougyoku Aizen, considering the hougyoku granted him immortality.
>>118207506
>you will never see momo's bankai
>you will never see [insert character name here]'s bankai
>>118211344
I feel kinda bad every time I see that face because I always start laughing.
>>118211268
But really. It could harm him and kill him. The Hogyoku just insures he gets revived and gets back stronger.
That he could harm the current form was already a testimony to the brokenness of it's power.
>>118207506
I read that as spunk monk.
>>118209985
nice to see some one using my OC :^)
>>118211415
>Considering it could defeat Hogyoku Aizen
>But really. It could harm him and kill him. The Hogyoku just insures he gets revived and gets back stronger.
That's not what 'defeat' means. Gin's bankai is clutch but it's no Mugetsu. Gin killed him once, and got killed immediately afterwards. Mugetsu killed him so hard that it forced Aizen to regress to a pre-trancendant state, upon which Kisuke's bindings were activated and Aizen was defeated.
>>118211344
>>118211395
Requesting impaled Momo shoops.
>>118208054
>worst character be relevant and get a bankai
i will actually drop bleach if this happens
>>118211598
>Gin's bankai is clutch but it's no Mugetsu.
Actually it is. Mugetsu did the same thing and he was about to regenerate and evolve further.
>>118208109
Sounds about Kubo.
>>118208817
Man, we don't even know how Ywach got out of it...I don't think its just an immunity thing
>>118208146
Yeah, It's a bit frustrating, but at least not Orihime levels of frustrating. Hinamori was technically brainwashed by him, after all, so Aizen is still a touchy topic for her.
In a way, she actually understands Aizen, but him discarding her and attempting to kill her broke her. Even so, she seems to hold the good things she was taught from him and apply it to her work.
Shinji and Lisa's friendship and influence did wonders to her and she seems to be recovering nicely.
>>118211039
I sometime worry that translation ruins the metaphors and make us think of some things to literal, this chapter was (unfortunately) as simple as :
Raepmonk: I'm going to rename you ant to represent the fact im stronger than you
YW: Too bad im actually omnipotent so you can't beat me.
I fail to see how his 'understanding' held any relevance to the fight, I think the whole he can understand anything part was just his right hand man brown nosing.
>>118211868
It's just frustrating to see how unable she is to cope when Rangiku still functions normally. By all means, Gin had a bigger impact on her life than Aizen did on Momo.
>>118209793
A - The Asspull
>>118211725
>Mugetsu killed him so hard that it forced Aizen to regress to a pre-trancendant state, upon which Kisuke's bindings were activated and Aizen was defeated.
Please read my post next time before blatantly dismissing the evidence provided.
>>118211980
rangiku's an adult it's obvious she's just more mature
>>118208057
Through guts and hard work.
She's actually a very competent shinigami, good with kido and according to Shinji, strict with rules. Unfortunately, we mostly saw her doing shit with her during a state of mental disturbance, recklessness and later lack of resolve.
She seems to be doing better now, though her status is currently unknown considering all the shit that happened.
>>118212048
yeah almost entirely disintegrating is actually not big of a deal compared to only going down a notch.
Fuck, I wanted his A to be "The Ant" and him to go rampaging around while being a huge ass ant, his new name having made him even stronger.
Not since the cicada guy got shanked out of nowhere was I this disappointed in Bleach.
>today's chapter
>>118211933
>I sometime worry that translation ruins the metaphors
It does. In the last thread some guy kept showing all of us why some names make WAY more sense in Japanese than in tranlations, like The Wind for instance.
Yhwach isn't unstoppable.
You just need to attack him with an ability he can't see/without him seeing it.
>>118212061
This.
I often forget Hinamori is not that older than Icefag.
>>118212149
The key word here is "defeated" and is the word you used specifically. Kamishini no yari did not defeat Aizen, Mugetsu did. They're on completely different levels of power, as proven in the text. Did you forget to do your homework?
>>118211994
get out
>>118208054
I loved Momo but I dropped the series when Aizen pitched his glasses and flew off to Mexico via a black hole in the sky
Is she back in the series again?
>>118212061
>>118212385
She's the same age as Renji and Kira though.
>>118208054
Link?
I caught up on Bleach yesterday after stopping in late August. Man Bleach is at its best when its not focusing on the Big Bad. Everything just gets so fucking ridiculous. I enjoyed Based Mayuri drugging Ice Shota and kicking Gigi's and Pepe's asses much better than watching Ghost Hitler and fat Monk explain these incredibly convoluted powers.
>>118212445
Still, Rangiku is older.
>>118207789
You think you are hot shit, don't you; spouting the same shit every fucking thread about how Aizen is going to rebirth the entirety of the spirit world with Ichigo as his weapon in some sort of twisted plot turn that makes no fucking sense.
Well guess what: you're wrong. Such a finishing to the entire manga would be so stupid, but fans such as yourself would just lap it up; wouldn't they? God you're so stupid. I'm just going to go to school tomorrow and know that you're still here, posting your hot fucking turd of an opinion on this loser anime and manga board, while I'm out enjoying life - proving you wrong.
I hope you enjoy being single forever, you loser; continue writing your pathetic monologues in your cum crusted underpants and fast-food covered floor.
You disgust me.
>>118212389
>Mugetsu did
No it didn't. If anything it had less effect.
>They're on completely different levels of power
I never denied that but they came close to achieving the same thing.
>>118212379
>Yhwach isn't unstoppable.
He isn't.
Ichigo will fight against him with his newly acquired powers that no one has fully seen.
Or Kyoraku will. Goes bankai and it is a convoluted as fuck child's play with endless rules.
>>118212301
I wonder if Kubo will attempt to explain Yhwach or if he'll just roll with the fact that he basically just wrote in a character who's power parodies one of the biggest cliches in Bleach.
>If he can understand your power, he can control it
Shinji is especially fucked.
>>118212547
>someone actually spent the time to write this out for a post two hours ago
The A really is for Autism
>>118212547
Jesus fucking christ.
>>118212445
yeah but kira didn't handle gin's leaving that much better, he only recovered a little quicker
>>118212531
I still like Monk because even if he is OP, he's not unbeatable, and for what position he holds it's believable that he can literally give and take names. Yhwach's letter was obvious as hell but I feel Kubo is going somewhere with it so I'm letting it slide.
Basically, what I'm saying is that I'm not as bored as I was during Deicide, where Aizen went from master troll to complete stock BBEG in a matter of two chapters.
TITE KUBO IS RACIST AND THIS IS WHY IT'S CALLED BLEACH
So guys, Chad is going to be useful and really help Ichigo outr-right?
>>118212575
>No it didn't. If anything it had less effect.
It's literally straight from Urahara's mouth; his bakudo only took effect because he was so drastically weakened from Mugetsu.
>hurr Kisuke isn't always right
Please give me a better argument than this if you wish to continue.
>>118212588
Not him but yeah, people like Ichigo and maybe Aizen are the perfect counter to Yhwach.
They have weird powers (Aizen thanks to hogyuku and Ichigo due to Quincy/Shinigami/Hollow/Human genes) that are hard to properly understand and know the limits of.
I wonder now if Ichigo will have some unique quincy power kinda like the other Sternritter,? except obviously without the schrift thing, kinda like how Royd and Lloyd still had that copy and mimicing power even before meeting Yhwach.
>>118212755
Wow, goddamn. I was just about to post that:
>Be from the USA
>Nonstop media coverage of riots, protests, and racial tension following several recent cases of black men dying at the hands of police
>Come across this page
WaterPanda has outdone itself again.
>>118212716
He was nowhere the wreck Momo was, he seemed to have gotten better after getting drunk and ranting about Gin with Rangiku.
Daily reminder that Urahara oneshotted Kirge in Voldstanding (plus Ayon absorbed) efortlessly and without even releasing his Shikai.
>>118212917
He didn't kill Kirge though. Grimmjow did. While he was in Vollstandig, using Blut Vene
>>118212917
kirge had his quincy defense thingy down
>>118212723
I actually like the Monk. Maybe a little too much talking but this is Bleach after. In the end I liked the visuals of his power. The writing and the giant foot and hands were cool to watch but of course I knew he had to lose.
I wish this arc was more like the SS arc where Ichigo had a few rivals who weren't necessarily the strongest that he had to fight instead of the Aizen arc where we knew Aizen was going to waste a bunch of people until Ichigo showed up.
I get the awful feeling we're going to jump back to the other royal guard at the end of this and find that they're all facedown on the ground and the sternritter elite are cleaning up when Ichigo & co. finally get there.
Ichigo chases after Uryuu
Yoruichi-v-The X Axis
Ganju-v-The Compulsory
Chad-v-The Miraclethen gets immediately stomped by Hashwalth
and Orihime gets The D
>>118212803
How was he not weakened when he almost completely disappeared?
The difference is that he wasn't here to activate the seal.
>>118213064
I'd give Orihime the D.
>>118212917
That wasn't Urahara, you fucking retard. He was fucked up with an arrow in his side and was just as surprised at what was happening as everyone else.
http://exhentai.org/g/765620/0e9723bf16/
I CAN'T FUCKING BELIEVE IT.
A FUCKING BLEACH DOUJIN, TRANSLATED, AND IT'S NOT TITMONSTER NORMALFAGGOTRY.
Am I losing something? Is this some old doujin retranslated?
>>118213071
>How was he not weakened when he almost completely disappeared?
The same way Yhwach is fucking dandy after being smashed by Monk. This is Bleach, son, get educated.
>The difference is that he wasn't here to activate the seal.
Kisuke placed the seal before Aizen transcended. It took effect when Aizen was at his most vulnerable. He didn't activate shit. Just reread Deicide you ignoramus.
>>118213149
Defeated him with a single blow so Ichigo could go to SS.
He then wakes up to jail him, but he still got rekt with a single attack without releasing shikai, without saying anything and with little to no effort.
Blut Vene up too because he was getting rekt by Ichigo and thingking what to do.
Why was Grimmjow best arrancar?
>>118213215
>son
Arab detected
> It took effect when Aizen was at his most vulnerable. He didn't activate shit.
I invite you to post the page so that we can analyse the situaitotiognt
>>118213408
But he wasn't.
>>118213428
Deicide 23, find it your fucking self.
>>118213175
Apparently it's been up since 2009 but i guess it finally got translated. Thank you anon, imma save this for a rainy day.
>>118213175
>IchiRuki vanilla
What a fucking waste of time.
>>118213553
There's no more reason for me to do it than you.
And I'm more tired.
>>118213541
Ulquiorra was the Sasuke Uchiha of the Espada
>>118213653
Feel free to be as ignorant as you continue to be.
>>118212891
for a short while he kinda was though, he even got that edge lord volume cover, he did take it better but just to show how the age thing comes into play
>>118213676
except Ulqiorra wasn't a whiny little faggot
>>118213408
Nah, those were Stark, Nel (and her two subordinates) and Ulquiorra.
>>118213369
Again Urahara was not the one that attacked Kirge after her jailed Ichigo.
So "A" stole his bankai?
>>118213681
>>118213653
Relax boys here's the page you are looking for
>>118213773
That's a joke right?
His only redeeming quality were his abilities.
>>118213676
>Ulquiorra was the Sasuke Uchiha of the Espada
>Ulquiorra
I bet you are the same kind of faggot that thinks that Orihime = Hinata.
>>118213726
Kinda wonder how Kira came to admire him, Gin never pretended to be anything else than a creepy asshole, unlike Aizen who manipulated Hinamori to the fullest.
So Ishida is a double agent but he's in pretty deep.
What happens to him? Will he die a heroic death?
>>118213773
But he was
>"IF YOU DON'T EAT I'M GOING TO TIE YOU DOWN AND FORCE FEED YOU"
edgy
>>118213863
I want to feel both their tits on my dick.
>>118213831
I never said anything different.
I said Urahara oneshotted him. I just posted the page where Kirge gets fucked by a single attac, no shikai, no effort, blut vene up. All that I have stated is true so far.
>>118207506
Last "good" part of bleach for me was when it was revealed Unohana was the first Kenpachi, and fight that ensues.
>>118213932
At the same time or one after the other? Who would go first?
>>118213369
Did you seriously even read the manga? Grimmjow killed Opie. Urahara was injured and couldn't do anything. I JUST pointed this out.
>>118213882
He might.
Does Haschwald not know that he himself has only a short time to live or do the same rules not apply to him as the the other Ritters?
>>118213993
At the same time, but I'd have a special preference for Orihime if I had to do it one at a time.
>>118213876
I think that was just shit writing on Kubo's part
>>118212547
Chill
>>118213908
Please, that's nothing compared to the edgyness Grimmjow displayed.
Ulqiorra was just a sad gloomy bat who had slight moment in which he yelled. The "edgyness" was merely aesthetic with his habilities and resurrecion.
>>118213861
hmphh
>>118213908
how was that whiney...
ok looking back he was styled pretty edgey, but his personality was more... idk the word but more refined than sasuke's
>>118214000
Well it was said that only those deemed expendable would be sacrificed. I don't think Haswald thinks himself expendable.
>>118213876
Still he was a captain. Maybe Gin had saved his life on some occasion or the two had gone on some dangerous missions together.
Either way it would've been nice to know why.
>>118213882
I think Yhwach made Ishida fodder for him, like all the other Sternritter.
So when we think Yhwach is finally, like actually dead, he's going to snuff Ishida and make a comeback.
>>118213994
read
>>118213959
I never said Urahara killed him. I said he oneshooted him. Posted the pic where it happens as a proof.
Get over it.
>>118213882
Ishida being a double agent seems too convenient. Ishida is an important tool for who knows what reason. The fact that's he's set to inherit Yhwach' s power definitely has something to do with it.
>>118214157
the fact that Uryu has an heir role to play kinda makes me feel that YW won't last too long... at least i did until he asspulled raepmonk
>>118213959
>He then wakes up to jail him, but he still got rekt with a single attack without releasing shikai, without saying anything and with little to no effort.
The way you said it, it seemed as if you were implying that Urahara "rekt" Opie again AFTER Opie got back up.
And if Opie got back up, it wasn't a fucking oneshot, was it?
>>118207506
How long is Kubo going to troll is with Grimmjows return?
Why must Kubo troll?
>>118214137
>>118214157
Maybe when Yhwach dies he will then take over Ishida's body, kind of like a back up plan or a 1-up.
I hope not thoughbecause I ship IshiHime
>>118214108
>Maybe Gin had saved his life on some occasion
That actually happened, in one early bonus chapter where they're academy students Kira, Renji and Hinamori try to help Hisagi, who's an upperclassman fending off hollows. They're all saved by Aizen and Gin, who's Aizen's lieutenant at the time. That's when Hinamori at least start admiring Aizen.
>>118214157
Ywach is the Almighty Father, so that just leaves the Son and the Holy Spirit. Hazzy certainly looks like a ghost, so Ishida needs to die and donate his body to Ywach after three days.
>>118214094
Grimmjow was happy edgy not Sasuke edgy
>>118214157
I've been sitting on this prediction waiting for it to play out for over a year now, and I've even seen other people here on /a/ come to similar if not the same conclusion as me: Uryuu's plan to backstab Yhwach already failed when he drank Yhwach's blood. He's now basically being pressganged into staying a villain. That much is clear and obvious, but what's only slightly less clear (but still pretty fucking clear) is that Kubo's trying to use this to distract from the fact that Hashwalth is going to be the one to stab Yhwach in the back. When exposing Uryuu's unfaithfulness/uselessness to Yhwach doesn't dissuade him from keeping Uryuu as his heir, Hashwalth will put into play the final stages of some long standing play to steal Yhwach/Uryuu's powers for himself. Then Uryuu gets to sit back and be the damsel in distress, Yhwach offs Hashwalth, and Ichigo finishes off Yhwach.
>>118214312
He got defeated with a single attack. That's getting oneshot, isn't it?
Maybe I didn't word it properly, that would be entirely my fault.
I thought that the word oneshooting was fitting because he used a single attack. But now that you point that out I'm not sure if oneshooting implies killing someone or can be used when defeating someone.
So is no one going to talk about how Yhwach now has four Iris's?
>>118214343
When Urahara finally reveals what he was doing in Hueco Mundo int he first place we'll see a flashback with Grimmjow's actual face included in a panel, maybe a whole discussion. He's not "coming back" and he's not going to contribute shit, he never was.
>>118214458
Ichigo made sure to erease that happiness.
>>118214476
You're alright anon. The wording just confused the shit out of myself and a few people.
Let's all just have a Rukia and agree on how Kubo's recent preschool special power logic is making us all wish the Quincy turned out to be more like Opie.
>>118214502
You can see it in the last panel too, which I honestly didn't notice the first time. If anything it further supports the theory that Yhwach is related to the Soul King.
>>118214713
I don't want a Rukia. She's a shit girl.
>>118214729
Hmm, you might be right, it looks like the soul king might have eight.
>>118214829
pretty certain those aren't supposed to be pupils specifically, he just has gotei division emblems patterned eyes
>>118214406
Ah yes, I remember that now that you mention it.
Man that was a long time ago.
>>118214796
Wow, your opinions are about as shitty as your ability to convey a rational thought. Here I was trying to be nice. There really is no hope for you, then.
>>118214829
Those look completely different than Yhwach's eyes, tho.
>>118214982
It's not me who posted that tho.
I still like Senjumaru Shutara over Rukia any time.
>>118215248
I still like the majority of the girls over Rukia any time.
>>118214796
Was that a bait?
How poor.
>>118214502
>>118214829
And Aizen had three in his final form. With wings it's five.
How can you guys stand to read these translations on Panda and Stream? Do you guys ever read the official ones?
>>118215479
official?
>>118215248
>Open mouth
>Insert foot
Senjumaru seems classy enough. Though I'd never want anything to do with a Bleach scientist for obvious reasons.
>>118215479
What, you mean Viz's North American publications? The ones that are over a year behind and consistently fail to check the spelling on names despite having easy access to both staff in Japanese offices and just, The Internet, which consistently manages to catalog and correct relevant information.
>>118215476
He doesn't have multiple pupils in an individual eye though.
>>118215822
And drop color pages and spreads, even in the big editions.
>>118215476
>those three hollow holes
what was ever up with this random hollow from the start of this arc anyhow? That seems like a rather conspicuous feature for a random low tier monster to have.
>Ichibei has a legitimately awesome power that by all rights should have destroyed him
>Yhwch wins because "lol my ability is being da best".
full kubo
>>118215378
The majority? Even Rangiku and Momo? Even Hiori? EvenOrihime
>>118215857
as opposed to the ones in WSJ that are printed and scanned at larger size and higher resolution that the Viz publication?
>>118216046
Orihime is the best girl, everyone knows that.
Does anyone else feel that Ichibei's bankai ability is kind of...pointless?
It's main purpose seems to be to add insult to injury.
>>118216125
in terms of offence it's kind of pointless since all the damage that needs to be done can be done with the shikai, but for general purposes it's only the two together that let him totally rewrite reality if he feels like it.
>>118216125
>It's
its
>>118216046
>Even Rangiku
Nigga you be shit Rangiku?
>>118216046
Not that guy but I like both Rangiku and Momo better than Rukia.
>>118214532
Lol, sounds like someone knows fuck all
Bleach is like that tenured professor who does whatever he wants and figuratively shits all over you and can't be fired.
Why does Ichigos new shikai have more power than his previous bankai while he was wearing the hollow mask?
>>118216289
>Lol
>>118216125
It really is.
>Shikai, you're covered in paint and and have no name and power.
With no power, your enemy is like like an ordinary human, you could easily crush your opponent.
>Bankai renames the opponent into something else giving them that power E.g 'Ant.'
Now your opponent is as strong as an Ant, extra easy to kill. But there is no point because you could kill a human just as easily with those powers.
>>118215964
It's not an ability in the same vein as the letters bestowed to the Sternritter were; Toofsy made it clear that it's part of his very existence- basically, no matter how powerful Monk's ability was it wouldn't have any effect.
However, I don't think this necessarily makes Yhwach invincible; however it does establish that he is 'godlike' in a sense, or has an aspect of a god, and thus further establishing a connection to the Reio.
>>118216306
He leveled up.
>>118214532
Kubo said that Grimmjow would return, and as Ichigos ally.
You obviously don't know shit so stfu.
>>118216105
>Orihime
>Best girl
Good joke, anon.
>>118216289
see the fun of this kind of dispute is there's no need to even do any work. we just both wait and see where it goes. it's just a countdown to you being wrong and there's nothing either of us can do to change or speed it up.
>>118214502
Honestly I thought that he was just moving his eyes back and forth really fast, but it's quite possible.
>>118216429
Fuck off Ichigo.
>>118216105
>everyone at FLOL knows that.
Fix'd.
>>118216125
>>118216326
You're missing the point of what a Bankai is, and what it says about Ichibei and his role as 'the one who bears the true name'.
It's one thing to erase a name, and reduce everything to a blank slate. But to then rename it- recreate anything with a single word? That's real power.
And let's not forget that Ichibei claims to have given Soul Society, and everything in it, it's name. He essentially made the 'Soul Society' that exists in the present.
And lets not forget where the Vandenreich came from: the shadow of Soul Society, the 'black'.
>>118216105
Lmao
>>118212278
Jesus fuck this would've been hilarious.
>Joke's on you my name was ant to begin with!
>since when were you under the impression that ants weren't the most powerful beings in existence?
>A, THE ANT
>>118216333
So how the hell did he lose to Yama one thousand years ago?
Ideas, anyone?
>>118216429
Calm your tits, he obviously meant to say best girl after Yoruichi.
>>118216542
What if Ichibei just renamed himself to the Soul King?
>>118214107
The word you are looking for is goth
>>118216400
kubo said he wasn't dead, that was it
>>118216178
This.
Being able to fundamentally change the properties of an object/person is really awesome. It's just not that useful when you've already reduced your opponent to a blank slate.
>>118216448
I agree
>>118216105I love her but I know everyone else hates her
>>118216242
Rangiku is hot but she's lazy and a shit. Rukia>Rangiku
>>118216244
At least Rangiku is hot but Momo? Momo is objectively inferior to Rukia in every way.
why am i still even reading this shit literally every fucking fight is "hurr I win because i have to wait for ichigo"
>Monk was introduced halfway through this arc
>We've already seen his bankai
Still haven't seen Kyorako's
>Or Urahara's
>Or Ukitake
>>118216568
In all honesty, he probably wasn't strong enough at the time to beat Yama, even though Yama also wasn't strong enough to truly kill him either (Mayuri states that Yama had failed to do this in the past- his Almighty was likely the reason for this). But his bloodline spread and greatly magnified his power through various Auchwalen- death made him stronger, strong enough to change the fate of the world...
>>118216682
>annoying little cunt
>better than glorious Rangiku
>>118216632
Nah he said he "might come back as a friend", and I really doubt he would bring him back and then do nothing with a character that was that popular. I'm guessing he's waiting for ratings to go down even more before trying to salvage how shit it is with an old characters return.
>>118216828
Her breasts always seemed undersized in that page.
>>118216619
'Soul King' isn't a name. It's not something you can just become- at least not while the current Soul King exists. Consider Aizen and Kisuke's conversation at the end of Deicide- it's clearly a complex issue.
>>118216306
Because he never had real shinigami powers before, those were quincy powers imitating shinigami powers awakened by Rukia giving him her power which caused the hollow powers to awaken despite being held back by his REAL shinigami powers (inherited from his dad), and normally hollow and shinigami powers don't mix but Ichigo is a special case so once one of his powers woke up they all started getting riled up, except for his shinigami powers which were still being suppressed because Yhwch as Zangetsu was boggarting his spiritual power until very recently.
It all makes perfect sense
>>118216883
its an illusion
>>118216682
Rangiku's not a shit, I'd backstab Aizen for her any day.
>>118214796
Dude enjoy being a fagot, I want a wife like Rukia, and I am ok if she has "Assets like Rangiku.
>>118216999
Rukiafags are literally the worst posters in Bleach threads.
>>118216549
I wish this had happened and it was revealed that Yhwach was born as a powerless baby ant.>>118216568
>>118216999
>Disgusting Devart shit image.
How could you?
I'm going to be sick.
>>118216953
This is pretty much what>>118216294 was talking about.
So YH can nullify any powers (thanks to A), regardless of how hax they are, once he knows what they are.
So they only way to defeat him is through sheer reiatsu, since it doesnt rely on gimmicky abilities that can be nullified.
And the war list contains
Ichigo (xbox hueg hybrid reiatsu)
Kenpachi (incredibly high reiatsu)
and Aizen (incredible hog based hybrid reiatsu)
and possibly Uryuu, who was strong enough to survive the aschwalen and has been given A
>>118216999
>liking disgusting cowtits
The bigger the bust, the heavier the toll inflicted by gravity. Big tits don't stay pretty for long.
Rukia's modest bust will retain a perfect shape indefinitely.
>>118216999
holy shit
>>118216999
>Rukia
>huge tits like every other Bleach female
>>118217140
>Big tits don't stay pretty for long
They do if you're a ghost samurai.
>>118216999
>>118217026
>>118217121
>>118217140
>>118217173
Fine then what size is too big for Rukia, C?
>>118217215
Even then, they require a lot of work to be presentable. Pushup bra is mandatory for anything over a C cup or the sag makes them look ridiculous.
>>118217204
>like every other Bleach female
Rukiafags are so conceited. She's not even the best "flat" girl in the series.
>>118216854
>>118216400
he already returned as an ally, and it amounted to nothing of consequence. as it stands he might at best show up in a flashback of what's already been implied to have happened. There are very few things that would necessitate or justify him showing up at the plot at this point. He has literally nothing to contribute.
>>118216729
The worst offense amongst many that Kubo has committed during this final arc is the fact that he wrote out all the central characters.
Ichigo has been going back and forth between places indefinitely. Every time he arrives somewhere, it turns out to be anticlimactic as fuck and then he's shuffled off to another location to build suspense for something that never happens.
Ishida is always in the background, most of the time completely invisible. Even when we know for a fact that he's present (like in the Royal Palace with Toofsy right now), Kubo never draws him or makes any mention of him whatsoever.
Not that it's anything new, but Orihime and Chad as well have been given the same treatment as Ichigo this arc. Either stranded in HM, or being shuttled around.
You'd think with all these characters being given the sidebar, Kubo would take the opportunity to delve into other lesser characters that we're interested in. But nope, just these terrible Quincy. And until just recently, they just kept popping up.
>>118217249
Rukia's chest is a B max. Anything over that is intolerable.
See here, this is clearly a B-range cup because her bust is still noticeable despite being constricted by the dress.
>>118217133
You're implying a whole lot that we really can't be 100% sure about.
>>118217257
>Pushup bra is mandatory for anything over a C cup or the sag makes them look ridiculous
Nonsense, 2D breasts don't need such things.
Well now Ywach looks silly with four eyes, since two of them will always look like he's cross-eyed
>>118217355
She looks like a trap.
>>118217287
I'm anOrihimefagbut even I can see Rukia is fine as is.
Can we list hidden "it was I all along" players?
Urohara & Yoruichi
Shunsui & Capt Cripple
Satan
>>118217287
Did the grilltable not get posted in this thread? The things have been dying so fast I can't tell what's been in what. I'm fine with stupid horny 15yo drooling over anime girls bullshit so long as it doesn't escalate into this horseshit shipper or waifu bullshit. So have at them.
>>118217326
One of the many downsides of having a large cast of characters who are all interesting and popular in their own ways, I guess.
>>118217311
Since when did kubo care about the contribution of his story. Look at like half of the characters that have been introduced or shown in the last 100 chapters, they haven't contributed shit to the story. Who's to say he won't bring him back. Honestly I think it's more likely than not.
>>118217287
Rukia's the best character in Bleach, period. She's literally perfect in every way. 80% of the reason I read Bleach is for her.
But yeah that guy is wrong to say Bleach is all cowtits, there are other flat beauties as well. Soifong, Yachiru, Karin, Yuzu, Ururu, and that fullbring tsundere whose name I can't remember, and also I think Hiyori was another pettanko.
It's easy to overlook them all seeing as the big titted ones get the most attention usually. Save for Rukia of course.
>>118217433
you know an inability to differentiate between genders is sometimes a sign of autism. You should probably see someone about that.
>>118217390
Your options are:
1. Realistic breasts that obey the laws of physics
2. Ridiculous chest balloons that look nothing like actual breasts.
Fortunately Rukia is able to have breasts that look like breasts and still be attractive.
>>118217326
Ishida barely being present is especially inexcuseable, since he is a central figure in this arc. I wish we saw more of him and what he's trying to do now that he's too deep in this.
The only thing Rukia is, is proof that Kubo once knew how to draw character faces that were well-balanced.
>>118217485
>Rukia's the best character in Bleach, period. She's literally perfect in every way. 80% of the reason I read Bleach is for her.
>lists literal children in the list of flat beauties
Welp, I'm out, see you guys next week.
>>118216883
It's the perspective.
>>118217445
Aizen, how did you forget Aizen.
I'm surprised obd hasn't does its usual shoneshit hype threads after any of the big 3 have some good feats like ichibei and Bach
>>118217311
Just like you on this thread
>>118217433
Should get your eyes checked, m8. Not being able to tell a woman from a man is a bad sign.
>>118217326
Like you said you can kind of expect it with Orihime and Chad but fucking Ishida and Ichigo should be much more prominent. Hell, Rukia's been a footnote it seems. She had like one fight and that was it. It almost seems like Byakuya has had more screen time.
>>118217518
>character explicitly said to be androgynous from the very beginning of the manga
>manface, flat chest and wearing an exaggeratedly feminine outfit in that picture
>not looking like a trap
I wonder if you're not serious or just in denial.
Niggastream's version clarifies a lot of the murky text in mangapanda's version.
>I did not expect to see this far ahead with my eyes in their closed state.
>he hasn't even released his powers and he's stomping the best of the best
This guy is without a shadow of doubt God almighty. To think that Ichigo is related to this monster and not just him, but equally fucked up monsters on his father's side of the family.
That makes him a goddamm deity. Did Aizen truly plan this far ahead? He didn't just get some sort of ok lab rat for his hollowfication experiment, he got the best possible specimen. A one in a trillion fluke combination of the strongest bloodlines. Holy hell.
>>118217597
>mad about lolicons
>on /a/
You can stay gone, normie.
>>118217477
It's just beyond me why Kubo keeps ADDING to that total. Yeah yeah yeah, I know, I've heard of the interview where he says that's what he does when he gets writer's block. Well, it certainly doesn't make it any better.
And regardless of a large amount of characters and adding new ones, it's still a terrible idea to take away the focus from the main character for an extended period of time, let alone a whole arc.
>>118217550
>still be attractive
If you're into 15yo boys, maybe.
>>118217669
Because he has.
>>118217485
Fuck off pedoshit.
>>118217477
But you would imagine there would be a little more focus on the main cast but then again this is Kubo.
>>118217485
Four of the seven you mentioned are children.
>>118217753
>trying this hard to shit on Rukia's overwhelming feminine beauty
>>118217713
>shonen manga
>mad about normies
>>118217795
Fuck off normal.
>>118217798
Pic related.
>>118217753
Coincidentally, only a fifteen year old boy would find ridiculous balloon tits attractive.
>>118217810
Mate, if you think that's what a woman looks like you need to step outside, visit a local mall or something.
>>118217818
Bleach is fujou and otaku bait for the most part. Even the westerners who are into bleach tend to be lolicons.
>>118217431
Still waiting for shoops
>>118217810
>actually thinking that is an example of overwhelming femininity
Anon, please, even Yumichika is more feminine.
>>118217326
I know it comes with the genre but kubo is terrible at orchestrating and drawing fights. All those short episodes inbetween where the cast can come together and banter are so much more enjoyable.
>>118217851
They're only DFC for now. Once they grow up who knows what they're chests will look like?
>>118217877
You should have said you were a homosexual to start with, that would have saved us both some time. Though I'll take pretty much any excuse to post Rukia images.
>>118217856
You don't need to be 15 to appreciate a voluptuous body. All you have to do is to not be a closet homo.
>>118217714
Fodder doesn't really count; it was made clear from the beginning that the Sternritter weren't going to be as well fleshed out as the Espada. But then again it's hard for the author to dislike characters that he has put so much work into making. And the focus has been placed on Ichigo where it counts- like the flashback arc and training with the RG. Yeah it's bullshit he hasn't had a legit fight in ages, but it's clearly building to that.
>>118217710
>eyes in his closed state
maybe he foresaw all this shit when he was in his sleeping mode
>>118217637
He has shown his true colors though.
>>118217899
I think its gotten worse over time. With the HM at least there was some fighting. Grimmjow and Ichigo were knocking each other around and Nnoitra and Kenpachi were swinging at each other quite a bit.
Now its like watching a turn based RPG in manga form where each characters explains their powers and stats and the one with better stats wins.
>>118217935
I'm 99% sure Ururu isn't a human being and I think tsundere fullbringer died, so that only leaves Ichigo's sisters growing up. I can pray they stay flat but given their genetics...
>>118217947
I like how you're not even trying to post images in which she looks slightly feminine.
>>118217866
There's a reason the most popular pairing in this manga is Ichigo/Grimmjow. The Fujos are strong af in this fandom. I don't get it tbh but to each their own I guess.
>>118218032
>...
Fuck off.
>>118218038
Rukia always looks feminine though. But as a gay you just don't have an eye for it, hence why you think guys are more attractive.
>>118217326
>>118217477
>>118217559
>>118217669
I guess what I'm mainly getting at is that this is all rising action. It's building suspense and anticipation for these characters that we've been following the entire series. And even though they've been given the sidebar for this arc, readers will still be interested in seeing what role they will play when the plot finally pans out - EVEN IF there was no foreshadowing in this arc that they will be important. And there HAS BEEN quite a bit, especially in regards to Ishida and Ichigo (duh).
So we're expecting some pretty big reveals, or at least some emotional scenes. And I just don't think Kubo can ever hope to deliver on it since he's been building it up for so terribly long.
>>118217663
good to know you've got no real argument to fall back on and are resorting to desperate shallow mudslinging in an anonymous forum in an attempt to salvage your own ego rather than actually make anything remotely close to a logical argument
>>118217669
>It almost seems like Byakuya has had more screen time.
Well, he's the editor's favorite characyer after all.
>>118218074
That was a legitimate and proper usage of an ellipses. If you're going to try and grammar nazi me you'd better get a style guide to look for some real obscure shit.
>>118218019
And Ishida? And Chad? And Orihime? And Rukia? All feel like side characters at this point and the manga is coming to its end.
>>118218104
>literally looks like a boy
>always looks feminine
>>118218139
>your argument: there's no point he doesn't contribute to the story
>since when has Kubo given a fuck? His story has gone to shit I don't think he cares so stfu already everyone gets your point.
>>118218236
He's a pedophile, his standards are messed up.
>>118217954
I like big tits.
I just like them to look semi realistic.
>>118218236
If you think boys have tits you should go back to >>>/tumblr/.
>>118218108
>So we're expecting some pretty big reveals, or at least some emotional scenes. And I just don't think Kubo can ever hope to deliver on it since he's been building it up for so terribly long.
At least wait until we get there before you make such a negative assumption. Stories need rising action, and at least we're not stuck in Hueco Mundo watching mid-bosses talk each other to death. Yhwach is at the Soul King's door. We're reaching the climax.
http://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.hubatka.cz/hphotos-ak-prn1/44530_491807354174208_665546187_n.jpg
>>118218312
You're right, those bug bites are her only feminine features.
>>118218291
I'm not exclusively attracted to little girls, but yes my standards do skew young and I prefer girls petite. I don't say no to tits as long as they're reasonably sized, say C or below.
>>118218332
The Fear is scary as fuck. No one can say otherwise.
>>118218411
As nodt is terrifying.
>>118209186
>>118209209
mm its pretty obvious he knows that, that page is after all the rukia shit.
>>118218222
Rukia, Chad and Orihime are basically finished with their development, and have been for some time. The current arc is Ishida's 'rescue arc', and has established his conflict (hate the Shinigami vs. his bonds with his friends vs. Yhwach is a fucking monster) and will likely resolve once his friends arrive. Perhaps he knows the secret to defeating Yhwach (as they bear the same letter)?
>>118218332
Thank you based FlashBlock, you have protected me.
>>118218397
Rukia is extremely feminine. She has the soft jaw and round facial structure common to young girls, a bust and hip line that although modest do show clearly in the right clothing. She also has pert lips, long eyelashes, and slender fingers. The parts of her I find particularly attractive are her short stature (a mere 144 cm) and her moderate, B-range bust and perfectly proportioned hips.
In the big heavy shihakusho that she normally wears her figure is almost totally hidden, but in the school uniform, casual wear, or that white getup she wore while imprisoned her slight curves are more visible.
Essentially she has a subtle feminine beauty as opposed to somebody like Rangiku where her tits are falling out of her shihakusho.
>>118218626
>I-I don't like Rukia, f-fuck these faggots who like her. What can I do?
>I-I know! I'll call her a man that will rustle people for sure kek.
>>118218498
>Chad and Orihime are basically finished with their development, and have been for some time.
What development? Orihime's arc explored the vulnerability in her character but didn't advance her in any way, and Chad? Fucking nothing. Fuck you Kubo, give them some actual development.
>>118218626
>>118218820
She looks like a man. Look at your fucking pictures.
>>118218876
>being literally autistic
>>118218876
You tell us to go out and see what a woman looks like, but I think you need to see what a fucking man looks like.
>>118218626
my biggest problem with rukia (physically) are the size of her eyes; they're so big that they make her look like a child. Compare her to say soi-fon, who has a similar body type but a face thats more like that of an adult
>>118207506
Why can people not like a character without putting another one down? This post is going to get hate but come on just like your characater, fuck.
>>118218626
>>118218820
>>118219020
Why do you keep posting images that only prove how unfeminine she is?
>>118219042
Rukiafags feel threatened by the fact that other girls resemble women, so they try to shitpost them.
>>118219038
Rukia's eyes are fantastic.
Soi-Fon's eyes make her looks like the most oriental character in the series, not like it's a bad thing.
>>118219113
Honestly as someone who doesn't care at all about Rukia I'm seeing way more Rukia bashing than the other way around.
Look at this hot shit
>>118219113
You mean, every other fag feels threatened by the fact that Rukia is best girl, so they try to shitpost why she's a man.
>>118218829
Fine, I should have said development in relation to Ichigo. Considering he's the main character it's close enough.
>>118219285
Why is Yoruichi so indisuptably best girl?
>>118219296
>shitpost why she's a man
It's just normal posting, though.
>>118219335
She's hot and powerful. Urahara's got best girl.
>>118219247
Perhaps it's a backlash because Rukiafags commonly turn threads into Rukia and Ichiruki circlejerking and photodumping.
So basically this thread is full of autistic neckbeards who have never seen a real women and are only attracted to ridiculously proportioned chinese cartoon girls.
>>118219285
>Senbonsakura rendered useless by toilet paper.
I want to see this happen again.
>>118219247
It's probably a backlash, but I'm surprised it took this long for other people to get fed up. Rukiafags have been obnoxious shitposters since day one.
>>118219418
>says the pedophile
>>118219367
>Urahara's got best girl
For now.
>>118218312
>Pierrot adds tits
kek
>>118218829
This, Orihime's development feels half baked and I don't think Chad ever had much development. I can hardly remember anything to do with him other than the fact that he jobs all the time.
>>118219480
>YoruIchi
It's her own name, it's a sign from Kubo of how perfect it is.
Was it really necessary to humiliate Juha even more after the shitfest he did to him?
>>118219525
>It's her own name
>>118219479
I'm not the pedo guy, just someone with taste.
>>118219534
Yes, because he's a sociopath.
>>118219480
No, fuck you and fuck Ichigo.
>>118219572
Taste for cocks, clearly.
>>118218829
To be fair, their arcs were either got cut short or hijacked by Shinigami. It was probably Kubo's editors stopping him from focusing on not Soul Society things.
>>118219622
Why is Ichigo such a shitty MC? I'd rather him than Naruto or Luffy, but man.
>>118219634
Oh man you sure got me.
>>118219038
Her eyes are one of her best features. That lovely purple hue and soft parallelogram shape. And big eyes are instinctively attractive for people, they make a character seem more trustworthy and innocent. Narrow eyes are perceived as less trustworthy and make a character seem cunning or sinister. Which works for Soifong and gives her some gap moe when she gushes over Yoruichi.
Rukia also used to have a more austere appearance, she kept her eyes half-lidded and had this schooled expression on her face similar to what Byakuya has. Only she's far less adept at keeping that composure, since she loses it almost immediately after Ichigo gives her a boot to the butt.
>>118219622
Shh, no tears. Only dreams now.
>>118219335
>that side boob
So Kubo now has to do an asspull to not kill off a villain?
Shieeet.
>>118219479
Welcome to /a/.
>609
well so much for ever catching up
>>118219712
>that image
Now post the one he calls Rukia a brat.
>>118219762
Here's a character with short hair and a feminine appearance. Pedofags, take note.
Nah Yoruichi belongs with Urahara.
>>118215931
More Aizen Hollows
proof that his plans havent finished yet.
>>118219842
Yoruichi belongs on top of my dick.
>>118219793
This one? She's still semi-serious mode here, but she's a lot softer.
>>118207506
What was the best fight in bleach?
>>118219296
It's pretty much just one guy who does it. I know it's a troll but I never miss a chance to proselytize my waifu.
>>118220067
Don Kanonji -vs- Aizen
>>118216946
Also, Mad Monk is still limited to his own level of power. Say for example, if the Soul King has a shit ton more reiatsu than Ichibei, then Ichibei cant name someone else the Soul King, because that being exists beyond the limitations of his own powers.
>>118220067
I liked Ichigo vs Ulquiorra personally.
>>118220077
>it's just one guy
>4chan is a pedophile den, the memes say so, no one can really dislike my waifu
>>118220067
I really liked Kenpachi vs Ichigo. Which funnily enough was basically the last fight that had any semblance of swordfight choreography.
>>118219780
i think kubo get's so into the fights that he only remembers last minute that he's actually in control.
>>118220077
>but I never miss a chance to proselytize my waifu
and thats why we hate you fags, you shit up threads as bad as the ichihime shippers used to
>>118219658
He's just really bland. He fights for his friends and he can be a little bit of a tough guy. Sometimes you get the feeling there's more to him but we never see much of it. Its made worse by the fact that everyone just fawns over him.
>>118219714
This is an even worse ship than UlquiHime
>>118220067
Kenpachi vs Nnoitra
>>118219658
from OP narutard and bleach, ichigo if by far my favorite mc, not just becuase of his powers but also his personality, he just seems not to give a fuck about anything
For example in the Zanpaktou arc, after defeating muramasa, Ichigo and *young ywach* just leave and return back to usual. meanwhile other shingami's play around with their zanpaktou spirits
>>118220145
how new are you?
>>118220150
Kenpachi vs Unohana was pretty sick too
>>118220067
Ichigo vs Kenny and Ichigo vs Grimmjow for swordsmanship and action. The anime version of Ichigo's fight with Kenny is so good
Rukia is my waifu.
Best girl ever!!!
>>118220165
Nah ulquihime is a good ship
>>118220077
>one guy
There are at least two other anons posting besides me.
It's not a controversial issue either, the manga recognizes her lack of femininity, like I said before.
>>118220251
Rukia looks pretty feminine there. It's too bad she looks like a man in the source material and that picture's proportions are fucked.
>>118220145
/a/ is pretty well stocked with lolicons. This chart is still probably more or less accurate, though the influx of normals like yourself has probably caused the lolicon percentage to fall one or two points probably.
At any rate, you're in the minority on this board. And several other boards too.
>>118218397
>titfag
Looks like someone has mother issues
>>118220165
>This is an even worse ship than UlquiHime
Tell that to Kubo.
>>118220067
To date? My favorite is Kenpachi/Unohana.
>>118220067
Rukia Vs As Nodt
As stupid as the "You can't fear me, I am dead, I am frozen and can move." shit was I loved seeing Rukia get some proper fucking action.
>>118218876
low b8/10
>>118220207
I was hyped for it but the actual fight was lackluster, as are most fights in Bleach anymore. I find the idea of the conflict exciting but the actual choreography is disappointing and bland most of the time.
>>118220284
>>118220346
Ikr, so quality.
>>118220402
Fucking hideous.
>>118220284
Still going at it?
I think it's safe to say you have no clue what differentiates masculine and feminine traits, because Rukia has pretty much zero masculine traits.
>>118220381
Byakuya vs As Nodt was way better.
>>118220475
I was tempted to say that, I really enjoyed that fight.
I'm just heavy Rukia biased.
>>118219780
Not really, it was easy to see what his letter power was going to be. YHWACH fights just like Ichigo. A villian with plot armor, this is going to be fun.
>>118220329
it's nothing so complex. you just have to remember sometimes that /a/'s not as dense with neckbeards as we all like to think it is, the basement dweller population is pretty thoroughly watered down with 15 year olds. They're kids still being peer pressured into being deluded into thinking they know anything about their sexuality. There's not helping it, it's just a phase, unless they're actually developmentally disabled or just poor, in which case that might be their whole life. But either way it's not our business.
>>118220552
You meaning pulling a bullshit victory after the enemy explains his powers over 4-10 chapters and how much better they are compared to Ichigo/Ywach?
>>118220544
I don't have anything against Rukia, I just think there are so many characters that are stronger, more dinamic, and generally more badass.
Rukia wouldn't be in any of my favourite bleach fights by a long shot.
>>118220258
I didn't care for it. It seemed to me like it happened by accident, as if it wasn't intended but then Kubo accidentally wrote this creepy sexual tension.
>>118220385
That's true. I kind of hope Kubo's next work isn't an action heavy one because he's just not that good with fights.
>>118220475
I liked Byakuya vs the 7th Espada.
By the way, anyone notice how Pepe's power, his love that allows him to control people, is fairly similar to the 7th Espada's Amor, which allows him to control body parts?
I really hate this series sometimes.
It's not even logical, or cool.
Oh, this monk's super cool power, which follows specific rules got completely defeated because "I'm Almighty, and I win."
Seriously?
That's it? No special fucking fight? No counters to counters? No real fight?
I really hate manga and anime that have shit like that. "I SIMPLY WIN BECAUSE I DO, BECAUSE I AM AWESOME."
Fucking shit.I prefer series with rules and regulations and ways to break and counter them specifically.
This seems like the writer went "Oh, the baddies wins because he's the baddie."
>>118220641
Yes. Ichigo was trained by the best.
>>118220752
I get you and the thing is Bleach really doesn't have to be this way. The fights could have some interesting choreography if the Shinigami used their shinpo and kido and what not and actually fought instead of just explaining these really complicated powers.
>>118220752
It's been like this for a long time. No one but Ichigo could harm Aizen just because.
>>118219658
Ichigo's problem is that he lacks personal ambitions. He doesn't want to do anything, he just responds to external conflict. He'll help people who need help because he's a good guy, he's got an affable personality, but that's part of the problem. He's too easygoing and doesn't really want anything for himself. Additional problems are that he doesn't have very serious flaws. He's pretty intelligent (he scores above average in school, picks up new information quickly), very strong and a skilled brawler, has a well-earned reputation for being a notorious delinquent but suffers not real social setbacks because of this (see for comparison: Yusuke Urameshi, who was often blamed for things he didn't do and shat on by his teachers), and has a weird but overall positive relationship with his father, and his sisters adore him, seems fairly popular with the ladies... basically his only two flaws such as they are, are being stubbornly chivalrous in battle (which isn't even treated as a bad thing in Bleach really) and recklessly coming to somebody's aid without thinking about consequences (which again, not much of a flaw in a battle shounen).
Now, take Luffy. I actually like Luffy. I didn't like him the first time I read One Piece, but he grew on me. He's got goals, he's got flaws, and more than anything he has a strong, vivacious personality that allows him to take over almost any scene he's in. Luffy lives like a protagonist, Ichigo feels like he was designated it as a job.
>>118220966
i know this is a shit opinion but that was the reason I like ichigo, he's a main character against his will and I thought that was a really original character type.
nice dubs btw
>>118220752
I can forgive it because Yhwach is literally based on the Abrahamic god. His name, his back story, the motifs that go along with his powers, everything.
Kubo is mainly using this fight to establish that Juha is really fucking strong, and even against a ridiculous powerful and haxed opponent like Ichibei, he can still come out on top.
>>118220966
That's...a pretty good explanation actually.
I haven't read or watched Naruto or One Piece in years but at least Naruto had a goal(become Hokage, I wonder if he achieved that) and Luffy was trying to become the king of the pirates and find One Piece or some shit. That's something to work for in between fights. Ichigo just depresses me. What the fuck does he want? Just drag his feet through life until SS needs him again? He might as well move there full time.
>>118220966
>Gives accurate information about Ichigo's character
>Luffy is better
Muh Nakama, Muh One Piece, Muh King of Pirates, Muh Hat.
>>118221122
Naruto won best girl and became Hokage.
>>118221122
>He might as well move there full time.
Well Kyoraku hints that he won't be leaving this time, and then there is this scene.
>>118221108
Original != good. It seems interesting at first but its never really explored, Ichigo just silently accepts it and agrees to do whatever is needed. We never see him second guess himself or think about what he might want, he just fights for his nakama and that's it.
>>118221173
You mean Hinata? Good for him, Sakura a shit. I hope Sasuke died and Sakura was left all alone.
>>118220922
People would complain then too. The reason why Kubo goes out of his way to explain powers is that when he doesn't people bitch and moan about it. If everyone used generic spells, footwork and swordplay all the time it would've gotten stale years ago.
Fans are always begging for releases, explanations and reveals. At least Kubo delivers.
>>118221255
Sasuke and Sakura had a kid, but Sasuke left the village, so worst girl got fucked anyway.
>>118220430
It really was though. No 'I'm behind you', no asspulls, even the one 'Bankai' did nothing of any real note; it was a fight to the death, with real meaning for both parties involved. It was an unexpected development and fit well into it's respective arc. And the best part? Someone actually dies at the end.
>>118221255
yeah what i should have also said was, ichigo's character was better as a comedy gag than a long term batter MC
>>118221255
Everyone married everyone, Sasuke fucked Sakura, had a kid then left on some adventure to discover the world or some shit.
Probably just repopulating his clan you know?
>>118220966
>>118221122
I get where you guys are coming from, but I don't think not having a goal is necessarily a flaw.
Ichigo's story is of a guy thrust into a new world and discovering more about himself in the process. I think it's exciting enough watching him deal with the events around and grow as a character.
http://bleach.yzi.me/ichigo.php
>>118220752
bleach is a powerlevel manga of the worst kind, what do you expect?
>>118221251
It wouldn't really solve the problem though. Ichigo would still be pretty boring.
>>118221286
But does it only have to be one or the other? Why can't we have a little bit of both? And who says I would get bored with spells, footwork, and sword fighting? If you throw in a few special powers and some creativity that can go a very long way.
>>118221301
Good, that's what she gets for chasing that faggot so long.
>>118221331
He couldn't explore the world before having a kid? What a dick, I hope he dies from an allergic reaction or some trivial bathroom accident.
>>118219480
amen. YoruIchi for life. Urahara is a villian and will be kill.
>>118221452
>of the worst kind
I was going to say something like "Well at least most of the powers are interesting", but just today a guy with some neat powers lost to "over 9000" and as simple as most abilities are in, say, Dragon Ball Z, I sure enjoyed Battle of Gods more than I have this arc.
>>118221137
Luffy is a strong protagonist, but it's very easy to get rubbed the wrong way by him at the start. I hated him for a long time and he was actually one of the biggest impediments to my getting into One Piece. I can't really say what made me start liking him, but I can say what appeals about him to me now.
First off is that Luffy has an extremely charming combination of naivete and honesty. He's practically incapable of lying and very rarely is able to read the mood, so he constantly says tactless things. It makes him a natural boke that forces everybody around him to play the tsukkomi, even other boke characters.
I also like the fact that Luffy isn't generically friendly to everybody he meets. He's affable even to his enemies, but he despises weakness and doesn't sugarcoat it, he'll straight up tell a person "I don't like you because you're a crybaby." He's said this to a few character who later went on to become his friends after nutting up a bit.
I also like how he is able to make up his mind about something instantly, and then sticks to it. He asked almost every member of his crew to join him within minutes of meeting them, and then spent the rest of their arc convincing them to join. The guy's got conviction, I admire that.
Luffy does share a few traits with Ichigo by dint of being a battle shounen protagnoist, which I also like: reckless bravery, protective of his friends, strength from resolve, and so on.
>>118221531
dragonball at least has some fighting. If I want power descriptions I can read fanfics, I bet they can come up with better ones
>>118221436
That works for a while, it's getting old when this is the fifth time Ichigo has to save his friends and the world.
posting sexy motown yoruichi
>>118220966
Ichigo has realistic ambitions and goals, in that respect he's a much more believable character.
Luffy and Naruto are made the way they are to appeal to younger user base, who most likely have similar dreams, like wanting to become firemen, or astronauts etc. It's much easier for a kid to relate to someone like that.
At present Ichigo reminds me of your average young adult. Not knowing his place in life, aimlessly in pursuit of higher education and knowledge, impressionable. His motivations behind are grounded in a childhood trauma and all he really does want is to save whoever he can, whoever they are. He's like the protagonist of a novel and the reason why people find him stale is because he's supposed to be a shounen MC.
>>118220764
This has always bothered me if Old Man was always Ywach pretending to be Zangetsu why did he make himself younger for Tensa Zangetsu?
>>118221616
Best girls.
so what we can establish is that YH has two types of powers.
The first being his quincy powers, which are the same as what the other vandenreich quincies have (but more advanced)
and secondly, his innate ability to give and re-absorb pieces of his soul, and inscribe schrift (a more advanced version of his soul sharing ability) onto his followers. this ability is exclusive to him
what im curious to know is whether or not A "The Almighty" was a power that YH simply gave to himself through schrift inscription, or whether it was an ability he was born with that he improved using the schrift method (not unlike how a shinigami "improves" their innate power through the creation of zanpakuto)
also, my crack theory for the week: YH foresaw all this when he was last sleeping, when he last had his eyes closed
>>118221616
Keep posting best girl.
>>118219712
Bleach earlier design was so fucking great compared to the mess that we have now
>>118221650
because he wanted to wear cool shades
>>118221577
Some of the fighting is pretty meh but the first three DBZ movies were great and Battle of the Gods was fun.
>>118221581
Pretty much. A lot fot he other characters are more interesting. That;s pretty much par the course for shounen battle series but its particularly bad with Bleach.
>>118221636
But its not really explored much. We get hints of it but not nearly enough.
We did get some of it with the Fullbringer arc and it made that arc interesting. I actually liked that one because it felt a lot like the Ghostbusters arc in the beginning and it seemed like Chad and Orihime were going to get more focus but the ending seemed rushed and the Shinigami shoehorned in.
>>118221650
He looked younger there for the same reason that Shirosaki there looked like his old full-hollow self.
Ichigo was seeing them as they truly were at the time the power became "his". That was how Ywach looked when Masaki's family became quincy's through a pact with Ywach, and that was how Shirosaki looked back when he was "white" before he merged with Masaki.
It was just how they looked when they were first introduced into his fucked up genetics.
>>118221650
A bankai is a full release of power. He may have returned to the point in time when he was at his strongest.
>>118221636
>His motivations are grounded in a childhood trauma*
>>118221800
What the hell are you talking about?
Kubo's art has drastically improved.
>>118221800
Those designs have a much more slanted edge to them, but the art itself is much worse.
>>118221636
I thought that post my draw you or lab member out.
And I would say that "believability" is not a useful metric by which to evaluate a character in a battle shounen manga. Bleach is not a believable story, the setting is not a believable setting, the events are not the subtle ennui of suburban Japanese youth struggling to find identity in the adult world.
It's about ghost samurai fighting evil ghosts and nazi spirit wizards and half monster-half samurais and so on. Yes, characters have some depth to them, Ichigo does resemble more of a typical teenager. I think that's the angle Kubo was going for. I didn't thoughtlessly remark that Ichigo was designated a protagonist as a job, he literally takes on the "job" of substitute shinigami in chapter 1, essentially taking up a protagonist role.
And this isn't uncommon in anime, it's actually a very common way to start an urban fantasy light novel.
>average Japanese teen
>girl falls out of the sky/appears before him
>sudden happenings
>awaken new power
Thing is, the main complain with that formula is often about how generic the MC is. A lot of harems also have typical nice guy protagonists that are more similar to Ichigo than different, and people call them generic as well. Because they lack strong defining traits that make them seem like their own person.
That's the main criticism I have for Ichigo lacking ambitions. Ambition is one of the main way s a shounen protag defines himself, but anything will do, really.
>>118220292
>toddler
I really wish they can be traced back and their information sent to the local authorities.
I'm conflicted on loli but they are essentially closet pedophiles so I wouldn't cry if they ended up behind the bars or put on a watch list at the very least.
>>118221774
>>118222069
Well, you kept best girl, but Yoruichi is sorely missed and Rukia is present.
>>118207506
So... how is this troll fest going?
Had Hitsuyaga tapped Matsumoto's bouncers yet?
What new powers and asspulls has Ichigo gained since the beggining of the foulbring arc?
I dropped this shit during the war arc because I couldnt stand reain the fights of all the filler grunts that no one gave a shit a about. And that on top of that where fucking pricks.
>>118222049
Yeah we should really put these thought-criminals in jail for all these sick degenerate thoughts they have. I bet they even masturbate to fictional characters and drawings. All those innocent jpgs and pngs, defiled. We have to protect the imaginary children from the imaginations and thoughts of perverts.
>>118220292
>mature is that far down
Thats just a crying shame.
>>118222226
>Had Hitsuyaga tapped Matsumoto's bouncers yet?
They're dead.
>What new powers and asspulls has Ichigo gained since the beggining of the foulbring arc?
He was a quincy all along.
>>118222020
Just because he doesn't have one central goal that he's obsessed with doesn't detract from his character. Ichigo certainly isn't lacking in the resolve department, it's just a different type of story.
>>118221774
okay
>>118222230
Because they are actual pedophiles and are at a high risk of acting upon their sick sexual urges?
Why are you trying to defend people who would abuse fucking 3 years old if they at it their ways?
>>118222226
Hitsu fucked Momo and got her teen ghost pregnant. Now he is ded but not really.
Fullbring is irrelevant. Ichigo lost his powers again but then got them back and now he can dual wield. We dont know what he can do but i bet it will be OP as fuck.
>>118221800
I'd disagree. There are some details I think Kubo did better back then but overall his style grew more refined and confident. He was a lot rougher and sketchier back then, which makes the art seem hesitant and unsure. Characters felt more jagged and stiff.
Comparing it to the most recent chapter, it seems almost amateurish. But in a way that showed a real amount of effort put into it to make it seem good, which I like.
>>118220292
>toddler
>guro
>violent abuse
Fuck man.
>>118222020
Exactly, Ichigo's character is not exaggerated enough in a medium and a world that is exaggerated by design. What makes him interesting are his interactions and personal thoughts, but in a fighting manga those are drowned out. The HM arc lived on the idea that Ichigo was on a downward spiral towards insanity, or at least that it would change him permanently (and it did).
Ichigo's development ended with "The Blade is Me". We shouldn't expect him to do much from here on out. Just enjoy his new bankai and new forms. If he really does have the power of soul distribution then things are going to get a bit more interesting before the ending. That's all there is to say about him now.
Fuck Spooky Monk, where is OUR BOY Aizen?
>>118222382
>at a high risk
Are you at high risk of fucking every woman you see? Like, should we put every straight male behind bars because they might rape women at any moment? No, because you have self control and probably also have empathy and wouldn't attack people. For some reason you assume pedos have neither of these qualities.
>>118222382
Because he's a pedophile, why else
>inb4 I'm not a pedophile, filthy normie, etc.
>>118222382
I pretty much agree with you anon, but to be fair, he has a point.
Should we consider all ugly socially awkward virgins to be potential rapists?
>>118222382
A lolicon is not a high risk pedophile. Hell, most actual pedophiles aren't high risk pedophiles. The ones who are a danger to themselves and others are the ones who seek to profit from the exploitation of real children. Pedophilia was made illegal due to the bodily harm sexual intercourse wrought on someone who was not sexually mature.
>>118222296
hmmm, I am glad I stoped to read this shit long ago.>>118222384
>Hitsu fucked Momo
The fuck? but wasnt momo Aizen's cow lick?
Ughhhh... I guess Kubo never put Matsumoto with Hytsuyaga then.
Now that I remember, wasnt this manga cancelled? why is it still running?
>>118222226
Ichigo's half quincy, Hitsugaya and Matsumoto are zombies and he wasn't getting anywhere with neither her or the girl he penetrated.
>>118222592
The fucking momo part was a joke.
>Asauchi (shallow strike)
>Shinuchi (true strike)
There has to be something in between.
>>118222619
what girl did he penetrated? It was Matsumoto right?
>>118222382
Kid, no one here has any obligation to teach you human sexuality 101 just so you can participate in the on and off subject in general human interaction. Even if we did we certainly wouldn't do it for free. Why don't you ask your mom to sing you up for some cheap classes at a community college or something. There're clearly more areas of ignorance in need of filling in you than a bunch of stranger on the internet have the time and patience to assist with.
>>118222592
>bleach
>cancelled
>ever
We're in here for 10 more years or so
>>118222592
Matsumoto's husbando died, Kubo's never gonna let Hitsugaya tap that.
>>118222460
Pedophile =/= normal balanced hetero/homo. They are deviants and fantasise about abuse by default. Whereas normal people don't exclusively masturbate to rape.
If someone does that, then yes he is also a high risk.
>>118222502
The difference is that it's much easier to abuse a young child and easier to find the courage.
Trashing Rukia is too far. I just got here and I'm already leaving this shit thread. Fucking naruto fags.
>>118222678
Jesus fuck, no. Community colleges are libtard havens. They will only further corrupt him and teach him shit like women studies, where fart rape and stare rape aren't a joke.
>>118222423
The problem isn't so much how low key Ichigo's personal development is, it's how divorced it is from his outer development, as in his powers. This thing about saving people and getting stronger to protect them is something that's existed since chapter 1, and since chapter 1 it's something forced on him by circumstance. He saw his little sister in the clutches of a monster, saw a stranger sacrifice herself to save him, was given an opportunity do right by the stranger and save his family, and took it.
And his actions have remained consistent to that train of thought for pretty much the entire manga. He kept his schoolyard brawler sensibilities even when fighting against inhuman monsters (I don't want to win this way!) and it showed signs of rattling him, and initially he did fight against his hollow half, but ultimately this didn't pan out in any big way in terms of character development.
Ichigo, even after embracing his hollow and becoming Vizard, didn't have any corresponding change in his personality or beliefs, he remained more or less the same. And maybe that makes him "steadfast" but he doesn't really have anything to be steadfast to. He never really stood anything except "gotta protect my friends/family".
Basically there's no competing desires within Ichigo. He's pure in the sense that he's singularly devoted to this. For a brief moment it looked like the hollow-side was going to make him into somebody like Kenpachi, but alas, it was quashed.
>>118222673
Did you miss this? >>118211344
>>118222678
Nice try pedo.
Hopefully you'll end up under a big black guy behind the bars before you can abuse anyone.
>>118222719
Speaking of equations...
Pedophile =/= Lolicon
I actually wanted to make an elaborate point but since I'm kind of tired I'll just say that 3DPD was, is and will always be inferior to 2D. No matter the age.By the way I fap to lolis on daily basis but I regard pedophilia sick as fuck and I'd like them pedos all dead and castrated and dead (just for good measure)
>>118222855
dat cognative dissonance
>>118212755
ayy lmao
>>118222719
>Pedophile =/= normal balanced hetero/homo.
100 years ago people said the same thing about homos.
>They are deviants and fantasise about abuse by default
I wasn't aware you were privy to my fantasies, please tell me more about what I imagine while masturbating.
>Whereas normal people don't exclusively masturbate to rape.
Neither do I, as I mentioned earlier I'm not exclusively pedo-sexual. Which is the case for many people attracted to children. I can and do regularly get off to teens and adults. My spectrum of acceptable ages is just skewed younger than the average person's. Anyone over 30 is outside my strikezone, and generally speaking I don't find toddlers/babies attractive.
Also, categorizing all child-adult sex as abuse is at best willful ignorance, at worst willful disinfo.
>>118222965
Fuck off you subhuman scum.
>>118222945
*cognitive
>>118222989
You should really find a different board, or maybe a different site, if you find lolicons so offensive.
Clearly your delicate feelings can't handle this place or the people in it.
>>118222965
>I wasn't aware you were privy to my fantasies, please tell me more about what I imagine while masturbating.
Because child sex is abuse by default. If you aren't a child the same age you are a would be rapist and a pedo.
Can anyone post LabMembers site?
>>118214502
4?i dont see it.
can someone point it out with some red circles or something
>>118222965
>generally speaking I don't find toddlers/babies attractive
Is this implying that you sometimes do?
>Rukiafags
>shippers and literal pedos who get elitist about their manfaced waifoo, turn threads into image dumps about her week after week
>>118222711
why not?!! fuck you!
No seriously why the fuck no?! do I have to send angry tweets to kubo now?
>>118222020
see...there's a problem with the presentation here that you're kind of missing. I'll use Luffy as the example, since he's kind of being talked about here anyway.
Luffy doesn't act like someone who would want to be a Pirate king. It's not something he talks about other than to drop the line in a fight. It's really more of a catchphrase than it is anything else. You don't see him talk about what it would take for him to be pirate king. You don't see him even talk about things the king of pirates shouldn't do. You never see him talk about it at all. If it weren't a line he dropped every single fight then the readers would have forgotten years ago that it was even a plot point. He doesn't plan, or strategize, or do anything in pursuit of becoming the pirate king, he just keeps saying he's going to be it some day. It's about as paper thin of a motivation as you can get, while technically still being motivated.
Ichigo does have a very human Motivation in a world of superhumans, but he actively pursues his goals. When someone threatens to take who or what he protects, he hunts them down. He has Literally gone to a hellscape to fight for his friends. He literally tore down a thousands of years old system to fight for his friends. He did all of this and then went back to his normal life (which he always claimed to want) and tried to live normally, which was his goal all along. It failed in the end, because they addressed the fact that he had gotten too used to the power and how that had warped his life, but he still tried to live his life according to his values.
Honestly? Ichigo is more driven that Luffy when it comes to achieving their goals. I get that Luffy is more likeable since he's much more active, but I don't get the argument that Luffy is Ambitious and motivated. He's a carefree kid wandering the seas of adventure, he is no way motivated or ambitious outside of "hey a thing just happened in front of me. I should react to it!"
>>118222965
>Also, categorizing all child-adult sex as abuse is at best willful ignorance
Typical pedo trash argument.
Into the lake of fire asap.
This chapter is another asspull but at least the monk's powers were pretty damn cool
>>118222855
>By the way I fap to lolis on daily basis but I regard pedophilia sick as fuck
>>118222310
>Just because he doesn't have one central goal that he's obsessed with doesn't detract from his character.
It kind of does. Without a goal and inner conflict he's pretty much only there for the fights.
>>118222855
Look up the definition of pedophile you fucking degenerate.
>>118223065
Again: I'm not exclusively pedo-sexual. I have fantasies about adults too, but apparently these are also "abuse my default" because I also am attracted to little girls below an arbitrary age.
And as to your claims about child-sex, they're pretty much false. Simple logical reasoning is sufficient to explain why, but I also have a few articles and meta-studies you can examine to undermine the ideologically-driven presupposition that children can't consent to sex.
>/a/
>loves Rukia to death
>10000 threads about Rukia since 2008
This thread is an utter disgrace. All of you fucking naruhina fucks go back to narutoforums and suck your own cocks.
Nobody talks about my waifu like that. NOBODY. FUCK YOU
>>118222791
>and initially he did fight against his hollow half, but ultimately this didn't pan out in any big way in terms of character development.
He has been fighting against his hollow self until recently, when he learned that it came from his mother. He didn't stop resenting Zangetsu just because he didn't appear, it took the realization that this unwanted, seemingly foreign body was inherited from the person he loved above all else for him to come to terms with it.
>Ichigo, even after embracing his hollow and becoming Vizard, didn't have any corresponding change in his personality or beliefs, he remained more or less the same.
He became a bloodthirsty monster and lost his sanity on a few occasions. It culminated with him casting aside important personal beliefs to get the job done. He didn't go back to being a chivalrous protectfag with a heart of gold just because Zangetsu took on a less central role. He's a conditioned murderer and shows traits of sadism in wanting to toy with his prey. As you put it, it's not as pronounced, or bestial as with Kenpachi, but this does not change the fact that he fights to kill and he is extremely violent and he does this consciously now.
>>118223266
Fuck off you shitposting waifufaggot.
>>118222310
I did say that anything would do if it would define his character, ambitions are just a common and very simple way to do it. It's not hard to set up. Look at OP and Naruto: I wanna be the king of the pirates/ninjas! Bam. One simple sentence and you can contextualize the character's actions as working toward a goal. It gives them a sense of direction and purpose.
Ichigo by comparison feels weightless, drifting from conflict to conflict, pulled not by his own will but by forces beyond his understanding and control. And again, that's not really a bad idea, but it makes for lackluster battle shounen.
>>118223239
1. Start lifting
2. Get a girl your own age
3. Throw your pedo crap to the garbage
4. Get your life back in order
5. Avoid children as long as you're a deviant
6. Never tell anyone about your old fetisch.
>>118216105
Pork ranger please go
>>118223226
Oh right. That's the thing you guys don't get. Pedophilia is being aroused by kids, where "kids" mean people below the age of consent. Meanwhile lolicons (or at least me because fuck the others) are attracted to very small chests, short height and lack of pubic hair and not to the age.I'll leave out the argument about 3D and 2D differences. It wouldn't get across to you no matter what I would do.
>>118223347
I'm the 20 year old guy with an 18 year old asian girlfriend who looks like a tanner version of Rukia. She's got small breasts too.
Does that make her a little kid?
Do you know how fucking stupid you sound.
>>118223065
Would just like to clarify that the reason why we sexual contact with children is regarded as abuse is because they are not seen as beings capable of giving meaningful consent. And therefore it is abuse and rape by the legal definition, though not necessarily by the practical definition.
You both have a point, I just wanted to shed light on them.
>>118223132
>Shit on Rukiafags
>Post pic of one of (if not the) the worst KLK characters
>Implying that Gamakofags and Ryumakofags weren't worse than all the Bleach shipperfags combined
I'm so glad Nakashima BTFO all and never gave them any romance.
>>118223112
Toddlercon is garbage. The vast majority of lolicons would agree.
>>118223239
No one says children can't consent to sex.
It's still sick for an adult to manipulate a child into having relations with them.
>>118222791
>Basically there's no competing desires within Ichigo. He's pure in the sense that he's singularly devoted to this. For a brief moment it looked like the hollow-side was going to make him into somebody like Kenpachi, but alas, it was quashed.
You clearly skimmed a few chapters. Ichigo isn't just out for other people's sakes, as has been posted by many uninformed anons. He likes fighting. He's always liked fighting, and that's part of why he's good at it. He's been fighting punks since before chapter 1. Why? Because he's an angry teen with dead mom issues. Pretty stale, right? He makes up for it by doing right for others, but in the end being a Shinigami and being a hero is what made him happy. The Hollow part who knows this, Yhwach who is trying to protect him, and Ichigo, who just wants to be himself- there's enough complexity there that you've clearly chosen to ignore in order to discredit a manga which you dislike. I'd start from chapter 1 (hell I'd start from Zombie Powder), lose the bias, and come up with an opinion stronger than 'well he just isn't a good character'.
>all these people talking shit about Rukia
Did those naruto threads bring in a whole bunch of cancer from reddit and tumblr? As far as I can tell only the newfags and a few oldfags hate Rukia.
>>118223525
Fuck off and stop spamming your shitty waifu, more "but everyone luvs her" posts won't make her look any better.
>>118223347
Normalfag please go
>>118221873
>Ichigo was seeing them as they truly were at the time the power became "his". That was how Ywach looked when Masaki's family became quincy's through a pact with Ywach
You just made this up
>>118223418
I don't think you're telling the truth.
>>118223419
> though not necessarily by the practical definition.
The legal side is here because as the core children are naïve and easily manipulated coerced into doing something that will harm them.
The have had a different legal status in every single societies for a reason.
>>118223156
This is a very good post on Ichigo as a character. I'm replying to it so that I can keep tabs on it in the archive.
>>118223554
>implying it's one person
That was my first Rukia post in this thread.
Maybe you should fuck off back to reddit.
>>118223347
I have zero interest in a 3D relationship. I'm pretty well adjusted to single life at this point.
I find your implicit assertion that I must be some kind of dysfunctional recluse rather amusing. I have a job and enjoy the company of friends and family on a regular basis, who of course know nothing about my predilections or interests.
Also, one of the closest friends of my family recently had a new daughter, a baby girl. I sometimes hold her in my lap when I go over to their house. I also enjoy Halloween because I get to have little girls come right up to my doorstep in various outfits (some of which are surprisingly risque, this year I got a few girls dressed up like superheroes showing an incredible amount of leg and chest).
I'm actually the most content and happy I've been in my life, and tonight I'm gonna beat off to more lolis on sad panda. I'll think of you when I'm wiping the spooge off my hand.
Could Aizen have soloed the RG?
>>118223554
Stay mad.
Rukia a best.
Aww yeah, 500 posts, now I don't need to sage.
>>118223658
Maybe Transcendent Aizen.
>normalfags going bankai on pedos
>rukiafags in segunda etapa ressurection
>kubofags still under the impression that bleach is not just a massive trollfest
weekly bleach thread
>>118222791
>>118223505
A lot of that stuff just isn't explored as much as it should be though.
>>118223554
Stay mad faggot.
>>118223714
>normalfags going bankai on pedos
>rukiafags in segunda etapa ressurection
You listed Rukiafags twice.
>>118223583
We both know that no one cares about the practical reasons for those laws. It's all about feelings and sensibilities these days. People are always looking for things to be outraged at.
If the purpose was to prevent premature psychological sexualisation then a lot of things would have to change in society, because it happens to children regardless of any kind of sexual contact.
Only tangentially related, but still funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRbgM1-zfMY
>>118223418
Not that anon, but if you have a girlfriend that looks prepubescent (not saying that she or Rukia does) regardless of actual age, and that prepubescent look is why you're attracted to her, then you do have pedophile tastes.
>>118223757
Fuck off and stop shitposting
>>118223748
Sauce?
>>118223672
She looks dreadful in that one, bring better pictures next time you're planning on dumping Rukia, please.
>>118223505
He isn't very interesting as the main character in a battle shounen because he lacks a clear drive. This is not a problem in the beginning, as he's as teen with dead mom issues who can see ghosts, but by now his backstory and powers has become extremely confusing and there's no clear way to define Ichigo, which makes it easy to lose interest in him since by now there are many other characters that are easy to find compelling.
>>118223815
She looks dreadful in canon.
>>118220381
>>118220475
>if Byakuya had stayed dead the fight between Rukia and Nodt probably would have been the same, except Byakuya would have been a ghost
Fucking editors can't let us have anything
>>118223554
>>118223748
>>118223757
>>118223793
>>118223767
Didn't get the right clip.
http://youtu.be/fILpCqPBAiY?t=50s
>>118223639
>zero interest in 3d relationships
>ogles at little girls in skimpy Halloween costumes
You're not fooling anyone.
>>118223729
It's actually explored in every arc, and has entire sub-arcs dedicated directly to it. In fact, Ichigo learns more about himself every time he fights seriously. Which is why I once again ask you to consider rereading the manga from the beginning. Most people get lost in anime filler bullshit or pointless threads on /a/ without really forming their own opinions about the Bleach manga. Don't join them.
>>118223525
I'm neither an oldfag or very new, but I'm indifferent to Rukia. Rukiafags however are annoying since they destroy all potential for decent discussion in Bleach threads.
>>118223898
>Bleach thread with just Rukiafags
>everyone is discussing plot or Rukia, no real shitposting happening
>Orihimefags show up
>suddenly thread is now shitposting general because Orihimefags can't post in a Bleach thread without shitposting Rukia
This happens every god damn time. You almost never see Rukiafags shitposting other girls until the other fags show up.
>>118223505
Liking fights isn't the same thing as having a desire. Ichigo doesn't start fights, he finishes them. He meets violence with violence, but doesn't initiate violence. A desire is something that motivates you to action. Ichigo isn't motivated to fight for a love of fights, if he was he'd still be on the karate team or would be more of a thug. Instead he passively does nothing and then reacts. People start shit with him or his friends or with random people around him, and he intervenes. Yeah, he's willing to use violence, and he might even enjoy it, but it's clearly not a personal desire that motivates him.
And maybe he feels a little guilty that he enjoys the fight, but ultimately he's not the guy who started it. His conscious is clear. He only gets upset when he starts fighting in a way that undermines his sense of fair play.
And so what if he has dead mom issues? It plays out as a generic shounen hero complex. You're basically going "Yeah he wants to protect his nakama, but his reasons are special!" It doesn't make him interesting and it doesn't give him direction.
Ichigo's problem is he has no clear direction. He's reactionary and his development is severely muted because of that. Does he get bloodthirstier? More willing to kill? So what. All we get is a more decisive, colder version of the same character, there's still nothing giving him direction.
>>118223963
Have you seen a thread with just Rukiafags? It's an extremely calm and civil environment where everyone is discussing the plot or Rukia.
Someone (not me) make a new thread
>>118223853
Even if I don't exactly agree, any character will start to lose their appeal if they're the sole focus of a 600+ chapter manga. It's why I like One Piece but hate all the Strawhats. Why do you think so much of the focus shifted to the Gotei 13 after Soul Society? Even more interesting: why did popularity drop so badly after Hueco Mundo? Ichigo is the backbone of the story, but side characters are what made Bleach a popular manga to begin with.
>>118224063
Circlejerks are always calm, you fucking idiot.
>>118224010
>>118224063
>discussing the plot or Rukia
>or Rukia
No one wants to see you faggots circlejerking about your waifu.
>>118223088
The panel to the left is a close up of one of his eyes and it shows his iris splitting into two.
I didn't get it too at first, I thought it was just the ink coming off.
>>118224063
It's mostly pic dumps and Rukia worship since she's had very little to do with the plot recently.
>>118223963
>Rukiafags however are annoying since they destroy all potential for decent discussion in Bleach threads
Actually that's the rabid haters. Threads where they are absent are civil and extremely on topic. Notice how all off topic discussion in this thread is traced back to people baiting Rukiafags and starting shit.
>>118223952
What has he learned about himself and where? He's hardly any different than he was in the beginning.
>>118224164
Then leave, because that's 90% of Bleach threads on /a/. Maybe Bleachportal or narutofan are more your speed, people there still actually think Bleach is cool.
>>118224180
>3PDP
GTFO Rukiashitter.
>>118224228
>Hurr I don't believe anyone on /a/ can relate to 3dpd or obtain a girlfriend
>OMG OMG GTFO 3DPD FAGGOT
porky....
>>118224010
I'm an Orihimefag and I really don't care, I just think we should all get along so we don't shit up the threads.
You know, like Orihime and Rukia do.
>>118223963
>I'm neither an oldfag or very new
Then it's clear that you have not been in many Bleach threads, then.
People discussing best boys or girls have never been a problem in threads where people also make decent discussion about the manga in general.
Unless we are talking about a certain type of anon who always comes and shit up everything.
>>118224125
Tbh I like the entire of Gotei 13 better than Ichigo too. Basically they're all military dogs but most of them are defined enough to have a clear personality and relationships between each other, and their motivation is often related to other characters. It makes them a lot easier to follow and it's interesting to see all the clashing motivations, morals and loyalities.
>>118224180
>looks like a tanner version of Rukia
>pic related
I hope you're joking
>>118224222
No, it's you who should leave with your shit. It's better not to have as many Bleach threads than having to scroll down endless posts of circlejerking.
>>118223639
Die
>>118224286
This is the type of Orihimefag I don't mind.
Too bad you are in the minority.
>>118224062
Having a singular focus doesn't make a character interesting; it makes them stale. Ichigo's story has been one about finding balance in himself- he meets a new opponent, loses his balance; trains, regains his balance; fights again and wins through understanding- he learns about other people and therefore learns about himself. That's why he's a good main character, he's actually learned a thing or two since chapter one.
>>118224286
NOOOO no one is allowed to like any girl but Rukia. It would be too much trouble to make a Rukia circlejerk thread, we need to make every Bleach thread a Rukia thread.
>>118224213
Sweeping generalized statements will get you nowhere. Read the manga.
>>118223192
>inner conflict
Ichigo has plenty of that.
Ichigo's goal is dealing with whatever the world throws at him. Some may see that as less exciting, but it works for me.
>>118223179
>people are still saying this is an asspull
Get some reading comprehension.
>>118224371
>hurt Orihimefags and other girlfags shitpost all the time and make everything into shipping wars
>let's post more Rukia and talk about how Ichiruki is endgame
>>118223583
Too bad every single society can't agree on what constitutes a child though. In some places anyone below 18 is apparently incapable of giving informed consent. In some places it's 16. In others you have to be married. In some it's as low as 13 or 12. Hell in most of Japan the legal of age of consent is 13, it's only in Tokyo that it's 18.
The only thing all countries agree on is that very young children, the kind pedo-sexuals are attracted to, can't have sex because they're too easily duped into it by exploitative adults.
And I think that's a reasonable concern to have. What I don't appreciate is the ensuing propaganda that follows this reasonable assertion: that sex is traumatic for children or that they can't enjoy it, or that it's inherently bad.
It's not, the problem is that if it were legal, kids could be easily duped into situations they don't understand, which would probably result in trauma. But people stubbornly insist that kids find all sexual activity horrifying, which just makes absolutely no sense at all.
>>118224317
Actually you misunderstood me- I personally don't like the Gotei the same way I did during the SS arc. Their popularity was tied to them being the enemies- once they became good guys, the Espada became the new favorite (and are actually much better characters than most appreciate).
>>118224292
>Unless we are talking about a certain type of anon who always comes and shit up everything
Like these faggots? >>118224436
>>118224353
>>118224523
I have a friend who was molested and they're still hurt because of it, and probably always will be, so kill yourself pedo scum.
>in the upcoming fights you'll be able to see for yourself this man's power
:^)
>>118224546
Rukiafag, please. You must be demented if you think your image dumps, circlejerk and shipping wars isn't what shits up the threads.
But go ahead, blame the manga for not being "cool" anymore or the Orihimefags for contributing to your shipping wars, I don't care. It's not like you'll stop being cancerous just because someone pointed the obvious to you.
>>118224450
Rukia herself said he hasn't changed and I guess, like her, I haven't seen any.
>>118224464
It usually comes down to him not being strong enough, so he goes and trains and then becomes strong enough and then fights some more
>>118224544
I think it's interesting how even after they became allies, most of them can hardly be called good guys. Half of them are bloodthirsty psychopaths or just straight up shady.
>>118221531
You really liked that movie? I thought it was so boring. The final fight was so underwhelming. Even Goku's fight with Frieza was more entertaining. Since then, all of the fights have been the same. You'd think by now they'd be blowing up the planet by farting or something.
>>118224790
>It usually comes down to him not being strong enough, so he goes and trains and then becomes strong enough and then fights some more
Check out the "Ichigo's character development" post on Labs site.
>>118224523
This is exactley what you need to tell yourself to feel less sick. I'm sorry that you're this way I truly am, and realize that these fetishes are out of your control. But that doesn't make it not sick, and disgusting, and terrible. Because it's people like you that convince themselves that children may be enjoying these advances and that they just don't know they want it that ruin children's lives, and make them unsafe.
Sex is fundamentally for reproduction, the type of girls you're fantisizing about aren't even grown enough to do that. Children dont even have a sex drive. Because they're children, they're not interested physically or mentally. You're a predator. Seek help and don't try to justify it.
>>118224790
It's because you literally haven't read the manga, or else you'd know what Rukia actually meant instead of taking it at 100% face value. You have no context and therefore your comment is meaningless.
>>118224838
I think they got harder to like once you start to understand that. It's one thing to have bad guys with good characteristics, but when the people you're rooting for are morally reprehensible they become harder to like.
>>118224767
Hyped
>>118224392
>Having a singular focus doesn't make a character interesting
I didn't say that it did. In fact I'm saying the opposite. Having two or more opposing desires makes a character interesting because they have inner conflict instead of just reacting to outer conflict (like what Ichigo is doing).
However, a character with single-minded focus can be interesting if they are pitted against forces they cannot defeat, which overwhelm them and force them to grow stronger. This is more typical in a battle shounen series. And Ichigo follows this model as well. He encounters new seemingly-insurmountable foes, is defeated, grows stronger, and defeats them. The key difference is, the only thing motivating Ichigo in those fights is a reactionary goal of protecting people.
The fact that he enjoys fighting, or that he has to deal with a side of himself that relishes in killing and violence, ultimately does not supply him with any kind of direction in the story. It doesn't motivate him to do anything or color his actions beyond making him more ruthless. He's still just a guy who responds to external conflict. Even his dissatisfaction with his weakness was due to the presence of threats against which he needed to fight. Were those threats not there, he would be content.
When I say Ichigo is a lackluster main character this is what I mean. If left alone, he'd do nothing. He requires stimulation, he must be prodded with a stick to do anything interesting, like a lazy cat.
>>118225050
Nah, they can still be entertaining. Characters who have their own goals and beliefs for reasons are usually more believable than characters that are simply 'good', especially in war scenarios. Mayuri for example is a sadistic motherfucker of a mad scientist, yet he provides buckets of entertainment and it was easy to cheer on him against zombietrap.
>>118224585
Go tell your tumblr followers I bet they'll sympathize. I couldn't give less of a shit.
>>118225007
>Sex is fundamentally for reproduction
This is how I know I'm talking to a hilariously autistic person with no grounding in reality. You're the kind of propagandist I can't even pretend to take seriously, I just imagine some fat, neckbearded guy in a fedora talking about how "rational and scientific" sex is and lose my shit.
As long as you keep pretending sex is about anything except pleasure you'll never be credible.
>>118225264
Honestly I was going to add that in, but I knew this is exactley how'd you respond. Point I was trying to make is it isn't pleasurable for kids that are too fucking small to even know what to do. They are not feeling this pleasure. You are molesting them.
Neck beard and fedorah? You're on the defensive because you're a sick piece of shit and you can't convince of us of what you've convinced yourself. You know why? Because pedosexuality is abnormal and we're not going to fucking get it.
Die please.
>>118225159
>The key difference is, the only thing motivating Ichigo in those fights is a reactionary goal of protecting people.
As pointed out by Kenpachi, Shiro, and Grimmjow; no. Ichigo is as much a brawler as they were; the difference is that he fights because he cares about others; he cares about others because he knows what it's like to lose someone. "Dead mom" is more than a jumping off point here.
>It doesn't motivate him to do anything or color his actions beyond making him more ruthless.
It was never about violence. It's about winning. Beating the odds. He didn't just lose his mom- he blames himself for it and needs to feel better. Fighting happens to be the impulse he uses, even before being a Shinigami. Consider his childhood, losing to Tatsuki but never being sad about it because his mom was smiling...and then imagine losing that. You fail to recognize the entire basis of his character; how can you hope to draw any meaningful conclusions?
>If left alone, he'd do nothing. He requires stimulation, he must be prodded with a stick to do anything interesting, like a lazy cat.
No, even if he'd never met Rukia, became a Shinigami, and had a 600 chapter manga, he'd still be interesting. He's interesting enough as a punk kid with parent loss issues who meets a girl and learns to overcome his grief and find happiness.
>>118225258
Entertaining is one thing, but to really feel for a character they need to resonate with you. I think the Espada ended up resonating with people even moreso than the Shinigami did.
This thread is an amazing marvel in understanding the psychological condition of human beings. A person truly can force themselves to believe anything given enough time.
Talking about the Ichigo defending shitters btw. The loli argument is just dumb.
>>118225789
Wow sure made your point there, kiddo, try not to wait for the bump limit next time.