What is Biribiri thinking about?

>>117643215
Hopefully about her upcoming execution by guillotine.

>>117643215
How she wants to be ravaged by countless faceless old men for money

Effect of high voltage on clitoris

>>117643478
If you stuck it in her would you get a tingling feeling from the electricity?

>>117643215
big black cocks

>>117643215
about how she could have beaten double jesus aqua because
>electricity > water
>magnetism effecting his mace/lance thing
>radar to follow his movements
>generally having a more versatile set of abilities

>>117643737
Oh wow, just fuck off

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About how these two kids are commenting on her nasty posterior.

>>117643803
>implying things wouldn't have been different if touma had brought her along when she saw him limping his way back to the fight.

>>117643737
Doesn't Acqua have super speed?

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>>117643215
Obviously.

>>117644295
so did brunhild, misaka has some radar bull the doesn't let her follow their movements but lets her see where they were or some bullshit. it let her react to and block her attacks.

>>117643215
About being the best Science girl.

>>117643737
>double jesus
Stop baiting, reverse troll. There's no way is she going to beat him. Even if I tried to amp up my Misakifag googles, there's no chance in hell. Misaka was already pushing her luck against a normal Saint that luckily didn't use magic and was a heavy metal user.

>>117644535
>best Science girl
>not umidori

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>>117644787
Umidori is 3rd best Science.

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>>117644941
you're right umidori isn't best.
how could i forget based kongou

>>117644941
God damn Accel's jacket is so fucking fabulous I need one

Tsunderes need to die.

>>117643263
>>117645924
THK, go to sleep.

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>>117646043
Who the fuck is THK and why does every Misaka thread need to be plagued with debates and shit? Just be civilized, christ
I don't even like her that much but this is just bad

>>117643215
Toumandingo

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>>117646137
You're new around here, aren't you? Tell me honestly.

>>117646218
Not to /a/, I've been here for over 2 years. But I'm pretty new to Raildex threads as I've only watched the two seasons of each series.

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>>117645338
>Instantly realizes 10032 isn't Mikoto

How can Kongou know Mikoto better than her so-called friends?

>>117646256
thk is a guy whit post in any thread regarding a series whose main heroine is a tsundere, but he sticks to index threads to most.

>>117646285
Kongou is based as fuck dude

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>>117646256
2 years is still quite new. But anyways, you have a lot to watch out and be wary of in Raildex threads. THK = tsunhater-kun. As the name suggests, he hate tsundere and usually shitposts about them, repeatedly with bait-like posts.He's most active in Raildex, but can be really active outside of it for other series. He also posts hate copypasta for Misaka, which is something you'll noticed once you see them.

More importantly though, you should go read the light novels if you want to fully participate in Raildex threads.

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>>117643215

>>117646486
>>117646358
This is some paranoid stuff.

>>117646783
You say that because you haven't been around for long. When you see THK's posting style for thousands of times, it becomes obvious like a recognizable pattern.

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>>117646285
>>117645338
Kongou and Mikoto have really nice interactions and a heartwarming friendship. By far the most developed relationship with Mikoto.

The series would be so much better if Kongou replaced Kuroko as the sidekick.

>>117643215

getting a telabortion

>>117647340
kinda sick of the "I am a lesbian and also a pervert" act that keeps happening myself.

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>>117647927
every character in this series is better when their love interest is on the other side of the planet

>>117648112
Well I kinda disagree and agree. Mikoto turns into this realy cute girl once she realise she loves Punch Man and is near him. Of course, in the later Novels this kinda fades away and she becomes unimportant.
Kuroko is only bearable whenever she is around Uiharu.

>>117648321
>Here comes his copypasta dump

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>>117648234

>Punch Man

>>117648234
You're kidding, right?

Mikoto becomes the worst character in the franchise when she's around Touma. Their interactions are all shit.

>>117648419
Says you, THK.

>>117648446
Says me and most other fans.

>>117643215
She's a bad tsundere that's shoehorned in the novels just for fanservice.
She's obviously too popular to be removed, but Kamachi doesn't want her to touch the main story either. Good choice for him to write her like he is doing now.

I want biribiri electrocute my dick as I simultaneously cum inside her

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>>117648491
Nope. You and your minority. Stay mad.

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>fucking biribri
>get zapped in the balls

worst waifu

>>117648491
>Most popular ship
>most

>>117648526
I like her interactions with the T, but I think she's more interesting on her own

>>117648550
all the raildex girls are shit

Unique IP isn't going up, spammer.

Official girl ranking for Touma:

Othinus >= Oriana = Kanzaki > Orsola > Itsuwa = Fukiyose > Index > 10032 > Mikoto > Himegami > Birdway > Lessar = Younger Misaki

Personality:
Othinus > Will-tan > Orsola > Itsuwa > Fukiyose > Index > 10032 > Mikoto > Birdway > Misaki > Himegami > Lessar > Kanzaki

Closeness and bonding:
Othinus >= Index > Will-tan > *

>>117643215
Is Misaka good at physics?

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Okay, shippers. The difference in how Touma reacts to Itsuwa and Mikoto makes it clear which girl he finds more enjoyable and pleasant to be around.

Itsuwa:

>Now, Itsuwa was a girl with a peaceful and honest personality.

>Even with Kamijou directly pointing out the issue, she made no eccentric actions such as slapping him, biting his head, frying him with a billion volts of electricity, or anything else.

Mikoto:

>As he headed toward the station, he spotted a girl with brown hair wearing a Tokiwadai Middle School uniform. It was Misaka Mikoto.

>And she was delivering a high kick to a drink vending machine and tilting her head in puzzlement when nothing came out.

>Seeing this, Kamijou quickly turned 180 degrees and hurried away.

>“It’s best to avoid danger. Let sleeping dogs lie, as they say.”

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Nah. Shitty tsunderes winning is always expected by me. No surprise or frustrattion happens when the tsunbitch is definitely going to win in a series.
That's why I like Index. I know Kamachi will not disappoint me. He always puts the tsundere in her respective place, which is forever alone, ignored, ditched and evaded by her love interest, with zero chances of being taken seriously and the MC feeling any affection or liking towards her.

>>117648554
Not here. Even Itsuwa is a more popular choice for Touma, given that she makes more sense as romantic partner.

>>117648773
You're insulting my intelligence if you think your lies will trick me. I've been here ever since Index S1.

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>>117648568
She's normally more badass on her own when she is a protagonist in Railgun, but she's cutest when she's with Touma. There are times when she can be equally badass because of Touma though in Index.

>>117648773
>What THK wants people to believe
Don't quit your job to spam butthurt pasta 24/7 on /a/ now.

>>117648848
Things change. She used to be the most popular ship, but nowadays most fans have given up on it and vastly prefer her not to interact with Touma or be involved with him.

You mustn't lurk these threads much if you don't think that's the general sentiment around here.

>>117648496
>>117648597
>>117648657
>>117648709

You missed these, based janitor.

>>117648946
I'm a NEET approaching the end of my rope. I assure you I haven't stopped lurking every day for the past 7 years. The whole franchise decreases in popular over time, that's normal. Fanbase for characters diminish proportionally to that decrease. In the end, it still means the most popular then remains the most popular still, with size having dwindled some.

The only real change around here is people like spammer and you.

>>117643215
Kamachi should cut her completely from the novels and use Railgun to develop her far more as a character. She would benefit far more as a character in Railgun, and the novels would benefit from not having her forced into the novels for popularity.

>>117649154

>>117648585

>>117643215
I want Mikoto's life to cease.

>>117648961
You mean based babysitter? Who does it for free

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How many amperes do you think she operates on?

>>117649028
>Links to a thread that shows your proof of shitposts and spams in a thread that turned into an appreciation thread
Interesting.

>>117649128
I wasn't talking about popularity in general, but the popularity of that particular ship.

People just grew tired of the same tsundere shit with no development for over 30 novels. It's reached a point where fans of the girl don't want to see her interacting with her love interest due to how repetitive and annoying their scenes have become. This sentiment is more remarkeable when new and fresh heroines interact with Touma, providing a much needed change of atmosphere and dynamic for him, and people naturally will compare and realize that Mikoto just can't keep up with them. She's a failure as a tsundere, and should give up already, since she's never going to have interesting or memorable interactions with Touma.

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>tfw the only good live index threads are the ones about power levels

>>117646137
>plagued with debates
When did discussing things become something bad? People are allowed to have dissenting opinions, nigga. Not everyone has to love your favourite fictional character.

If you want a discussionless echo-chamber to circlejerk and character worship, go to /c/.

>>117649311
>Try to figure this out using online conversion/calculator

Why is this so hard? I know Biribiri's max output is at 1 billion volts.

>>117643263
Would watch.

And fap.

I wish Accelspammer came back so he can snuff THK. Index season 3 is our only hope to bring him back.

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>>117649468
Sad, but true.

>>117649385
https://archive.moe/a/thread/117401211/#117441880

>>117650238
He already showed and linked it to you. You refused to believe it because muh delusions. Just go away already, spammer. Your cancer isn't wanted in Raildex threads.

>>117649028
>>117649154
>>117649257
>>117649420
>>117650068
>>117650238
>>117650308
More for janitor.

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Mikoto a best.

>>117649420
Your unpopular and awful opinion is noted.

>>117649627
>Biribiri's max output is at 1 billion volts
That's her normal output. When she goes all out she can hit 12 billion. And her 5.02, 5.1, and 5.2 modes add another 8-10 billion volts.

>>117650429
>12 billion

Huh, where did this come from?

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>>117650384

>>117650384
>linking >>117649420 as spam
>when it is a legit argument in the conversation going on to prove you wrong
>no comeback

Very nice. As expected.

>>117650479
From the same place as muh 3 gorillion jews.

>>117650419
>unpopular
You're just showing your new in these threads.

>>117650500

I'm over here >>117650419 and you didn't prove anything other than inject your own opinion. It must really bother that she's still the most popular ship, doesn't it? That's why you're so touchy and always feel the need to prove people wrong.

>>117650581
Too bad he is right, shitposter.

>>117650581
Nope. I just know the difference between vocal minority and majority. You fall into the former.

>>117650654
>he doesn't agree with my opinion
>S-SHITPOSTER!

>>117650500
>>117650489
>Using mobile network and PC
I'm on to you, THK.

>>117650746
You might be crazy for real.

>>117650712
You must be new here if you don't know how to make good quality post, especially in Raildex where anyone smart enough would know by now how to avoid shitting up a thread.

>>117650622
>>117650673
Nope. That's just how you want to see things. For anyone who is neutral and has lurked in here long enough, these opinions aren't rare or uncommon. More and more people grow tired of the tsundere shit with each novel.

You can't say with a straight face that there's the same excitement and enthusiasm for Mikoto x Touma interactions now compared to years ago.
You can't deny that there is a sizable part of the fanbase that thinks Touma is the worst part about her by far, and that she should stay in Railgun.

Hell, Othinus got a far more positive reception than Mikoto ever did in terms of shipping with Touma, mostly thanks to the fact that she actually had meaningful development with him and was solid and strong enough to be more than another haremette.

>>117643478

she's her own vibrator!

>>117649420
I'm not a Mikotofag (I'm a Kurokofag), but I still do like Mikoto and I will admit you do bring up some good points as to why her popularity is waning. But this isn't her fault. It's Kamachi-san's for not giving her and Touma any good development, as you say, for 30 some novels. He had a real chance to give her and Touma some true development in their relationship, (And people loved the potential match-up), but he chose to have Touma run all over the world instead with an even more useless and unlikable loli nun. And now Kamachi-san is stuck in a rut with "Heroine of the arc" syndrome. He's not really keeping it fresh; it's getting repetitive and WAY over complicated and congested with characters.

As a fellow author, I've written the occasional fanfic, I just hate it when authors get into the "wash, rinse, repeat" cycle of things. I wouldn't mind it so much if Kamachi-san used these arcs to build and develop Mikoto and Touma's relationship and bring them closer together. Hell I wouldn't mind if it went slowly and it does take 30 some volumes to get from the first "I love you" to the first true kiss. But instead he's in the heroin of the arc and same ol' punching the bad guy repeat routine and it's quickly getting on my nerves. I'm actually getting ready to drop it if Kamachi-san doesn't do something drastic (like killing off Index... which I would love to see).

This is why I hate such manga as Naruto, Onepiece (Especially Onepiece), and Bleach. Because they just keep going without end. And they just repeat the same bullshit routine over and over again.

tl;dr - Kamachi-san has set his stories to "heroine of the arc" repeat, which ruined his chance to develop Touma and Mikoto's relationship which many people wanted (and still want for the most part) to see happen.

>>117650429
Art book interview and the Mikoto demon arc.

>>117651047
They don't have to be rare or uncommon to be a minority. You can't change what it is.

>can't say with a straight face that there's the same excitement and enthusiasm
That's because:
>The whole franchise decreases in popular over time, that's normal. Fanbase for characters diminish proportionally to that decrease.
You're just stating the obvious. And as said:
>In the end, it still means the most popular then remains the most popular still, with size having dwindled some.
Unlike people like you who are compelled to be vocal against the most popular pairing (if it wasn't that popular, you wouldn't care), fans who ship Mikoto and Touma tend not to be vocal because they feel secure knowing their ship is the most popular. They don't feel threaten like detractors do.
>sizable part of the fanbase that thinks Touma is the worst part about her by far, and that she should stay in Railgun.
Yeah, yuri fans and/or fans who don't like tsundere. It's the same general fans being discussed here who are the minority.

>Othinus
An exception to the rule. Don't be coy and play that card now.

>>117643215
Taste of the superior Mexican cock.

>>117651310
The total timescale for this series makes a convincing tsun relationship seem slow paced

they've actually known each other for like 4 months

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Accelerator best Raildex

Seriously when are we getting the anime adaption of best Shounen trope + Loli doing their thing?

>>117644684
Reminder that Misaka can beat Acqua by mimicking Saint Destroyer using her powers, forming her electricity into the shape of a cross.

>>117651509
>yfw Touma will never make it to his birthday
;_;

>>117651462
>They don't feel threaten like detractors do.

This is the funniest thing I've read today. Nobody has ever felt threatened by Mikoto at all. Everyone knows she has absolute zero chances of anything significant with Touma. Detractors hate on their relationship because it is stale, underdeveloped and half-assed and doesn't contribute anything to the story, not because they feel she is going to steal the romantic flags with him. Everyone knows she's never going anywhere with him. She's harmless to other ships.

If that was the case, people would hate Othinus as she is the girl who got the closest to Touma and has been the only serious threat to all the other girl's ships so far. But she earned her popularity.

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>>117650389

>>117651785
More like all that's is part of the ammo they push to further their hate. You sure are naive and still that new here. When waifu war is concern, the girls who are a viable threat will always be in the middle, if not the cause of a waifu war fling. People don't care for irrelevant and sunk ships. Since day 1, Mikoto has always been at the center because she's one of the main heroines thus has a chance, no matter how slim.

Before Misaki and Othinus, it was Index shippers that was on the opposition. Misaki had shipping and often clashed with Mikoto shippers. Othinus too after NT9. But both of those two sunk in the same volume their ship truly set sail in, so there's no reason to pay attention to their shipping as serious contention anymore.

Far as popularity goes, Othinus is simply just fresh and new. It's natural people jump onto that. She makes 98% of the other heroines vastly pale in comparison given her treatment and circumstance with Touma via plot, so it's not remotely sensible to compare her to others.

>>117651509
But even then, she hasn't raised any flags.

>>117652132
Yeah, it's really like a two-horse race where most likely both will lose or be left without romantic resolution.

>>117652155
What? Touma is the harem MC. He goes around raising flag events with girls, getting them to like him. It's normally not the other way around.

>>117652092
literally the worst shop I have every seen

>>117651785
You underestimate Mikoto's popularity, regardless of how you feel, she is so incredibly unfairly popular that Kamachi would need real balls to definitively sink her ship. If the series ends without any girl "winning," I'd definitely attribute that to Mikoto's popularity wrecking any other girl's chances.

>>117652366
Usually in a harem where there is any sort of romantic conclusion, the MC would develop feelings for one of them, this has not happened for Touma therefore he will probably get an inconclusive ending.

>>117652485
Also to clarify, I don't want it to seem like I'm singling Mikoto out, all the girls kind of have one-sided feelings as well, I was just responding to someone who was supporting Mikoto, for better or worse though Touma won't end up with anybody.

Suddenly, time warp. Let's go back before the writing went into a complete mess.


>And thus, the day’s extra lessons ended.

>It was 6:40 PM. Kamijou had missed the last train that left at the same time all students were to have left school, so he was leisurely walking through a shopping district. In order to prevent students from spending all night out, the last trains and buses in Academy City all left at 6:30 PM. The idea was that people would not go out late at night if the transportation system was stopped.

>(I’m not sure if I should be glad it’s only one more day or be complaining that there’s still another day. At any rate, this has gone on way too long. Dammit. Once it’s all over, I’m going to the beach!)

>Kamijou thought to himself as he returned home that evening. It didn’t look like the wind was blowing, but the blades of the wind turbines were definitely turning.

>“Mh?”

>Kamijou spotted a familiar-looking back amid the crowd. It belonged to a brown-haired girl wearing a Tokiwadai Middle School summer uniform. It was Misaka Mikoto.

>Kamijou had no real reason to avoid her, so he jogged a bit to catch up with her.

>“Hey. Are you on the way home from some extra lessons, too?”

>“Ahn?” was Mikoto’s unfeminine response. “Oh, it’s you. I’m pretty tired and I want to preserve the strength I have left, so don’t make me biri biri you. So what do you want?”

>“Nothing really. We just happened to be on the same road, so I just thought we could walk together.”

>“Oh?” Mikoto’s eyes narrowed a bit. “You ‘just thought’ you could walk with a Tokiwadai lady? Heh. Do you have any idea how much effort guys put into taking that position?”

>“…It’s pretty bad to be referring to yourself as a ‘Tokiwadai lady’.”

>“I was joking, you idiot.” Mikoto stuck her tongue out a bit. “What you learn at your school is more important than where you go to school, anyway. I’m sure you’re old enough to know at least that much.”

>>117652689

>“Hmm. Well, everyone has their own field they specialize in. By the way, is your little sister not with you? I wanted to thank her for carrying the drinks yesterday.”

>Mikoto’s eyebrows twitched slightly.

>It was only a few millimeters, but those few millimeters seemed odd to Kamijou.

>“My little sister…? Did you meet her after that?”

>“Yeah…”

>(Crap.)

>Kamijou recalled that Mikoto had grabbed Misaka Imouto’s hand and forcibly pulled her away from him. Should he have kept it a secret that they met after that?

>Mikoto narrowed her eyes slightly.

>“Are you that interested in this little sister?”

>“No. I just wanted to thank her for carrying the drinks yester-…”

>“So you choose the little sister despite us being visually identical? Or can you not choose and you want both of us together?”

>“I said no! Where the hell did you get that kind of knowledge!!”

>Kamijou and Mikoto walked along a main street continuing their argument in that vein.

>Many different wind turbines stood along the street. Kamijou looked up at the spinning blades and then noticed a blimp floating in the evening sky. The exhibition screen on the side was displaying the day’s news. Apparently, three research facilities related to muscular dystrophy had been evacuated over a two week period and there was concern over the intense cold coming to the entire city.

>The conversation trailed off because Kamijou’s focus turned to the blimp. A blimp may sound old-fashioned, but it used solar power to heat carbon dioxide with a heater for lift and to spin a large motor for thrust, so it was an ecological craft that did not need fuel.

>Because of the effort that must have gone into developing the thing, Kamijou wondered if the world’s supply of oil was about to run out. The concept didn’t particularly bother him.

>“I hate those blimps,” Mikoto muttered.

>>117652714

>“Ahn? Why?” Kamijou asked as he looked back up toward the blimp. He was pretty sure he had heard that the blimps had been sent out because Academy City’s board of directors had said the students needed to be more aware of current events.

>“…Because people follow the policies decided on by a machine,” said Mikoto quietly in response as if she were spitting out something that annoyed her greatly.

>Kamijou turned his gaze back to Mikoto in surprise. There was nothing odd about her face. There was nothing odd at all. It was as if a crumbling clay mask had been remade while he wasn’t looking.

>“What’s with you? What’s that thing called? Um…Tree Diagram, was it? Hah, are you the kind of person that can’t stand it when a machine beats a human at chess?”

>Simply put, Tree Diagram was the world’s smartest super computer. It was the ultimate simulator created under the pretext of being a perfect weather forecaster.

>Weather forecasting may sound familiar, but that was a field where things could only be forecasted. They could not be declared as fact. Because the movements of each of the air particles that created “weather” were incredibly complex and intertwined with the butterfly effect and chaos theory, one could say that there was an 80% chance of rain the next day, but one could not say that it would definitely rain at 9:10:00 AM. That started to enter into the realm of quantum mechanics.

>However, Tree Diagram had moved weather forecasting to weather predicting.

>It did not do anything complicated. Basically, if it could perfectly predict the movements of every particle in the air around the world, there was only one answer it could come up with.

>Tree Diagram had ridiculous enough specs to do that, but some people theorized that its use for weather forecasting was just a front and it actually had some other true use.

>Incidentally, there was one irregular aspect of Tree Diagram’s weather forecasts.

>>117652751

>It calculated the weather forecast for an entire month all at once.

>There was no real problem with that because it was still accurate, but it still seemed like unnecessary effort. After all, next month’s weather was much, much more likely to be off than tomorrow’s weather. If the goal was accurate weather forecasts, it would be better to redo the calculations each day.

>Yet the Tree Diagram used the more difficult method.

>It was rumored that the leftover time was used for research simulations.

>Drug reactions, physiological reactions, electrical reactions, and all sorts of other things could be calculated by Tree Diagram and a couple of tests cold confirm the answer given. Being able to create a new drug like that almost sounded crazy. According to the rumor, there were researchers that did not know how to use a test tube and who did not like touching lab rats.

>A super computer with that much power had plenty of enemies. Human supremacists who hated machines could try to blow it up in a terrorist attack at any time and AI supremacists who hated people might try to sneak into the storage area for Tree Diagram to steal the technology.

>In order to protect it from external enemies, Tree Diagram was currently kept in a place where human hands could not reach it.

>Basically, the satellite launched by Academy City was Tree Diagram.

>The fact that Academy City could privately use the kind of rocket technology that was usually only allowed by national agencies showed just how much influence Academy City had on the world.

>(Well, the fact they allowed it also shows how valuable it was.)

>Kamijou stared blankly up at the evening sky. Tree Diagram was orbiting outside the atmosphere even then and it was possible it would continue calculating even if the world ended.

>>117652132
Again, her detractors' main reason to undermine her, and the reason why fans have gotten tired of her as tsundere is her lack of any significant development with Touma for more than 30 novels and lack of relevance to the plot, but she keeps appearing because she's popular. We see her more than any other girl in the franchise, and it is always for the same repetitive and shallow scenes with Touma, so it becomes easy to spot and point out her flaws as romantic heroine. Everyone knows she will never accomplish anything, realizing that the author is just throwing us a bone to keep the ship alive. It's nothing to do with popularity but the amount of uninteresting screentime she gets.

>Othinus too after NT9. But both of those two sunk in the same volume their ship truly set sail in, so there's no reason to pay attention to their shipping as serious contention anymore.
That only applies for Misaki. Othinus still remains as the closest girl to Touma, and will stay by his side as the closest girl to him until the series ends.

>so it's not remotely sensible to compare her to others.
Why not? People don't consider such things for liking a character. She's more than "fresh and new". She singlehandedly raised the most OTP points in one volume than the other girls combined in the whole series. She gained fans by having the best chemistry and scenes with Touma in the whole franchise. She's an example of what Kamachi could have done for other heroines over the course of the series, resumed in just one and under special circumstances.

>>117651509
that's more than enough time for a first "I love you" to a first kiss.

>>117652791

>“It’s a steel brain watching down on mankind from above, but it can’t turn on us or anything. This isn’t some cheap SF movie. It’s just like a bank ATM. It operates according to the buttons you press.”

>No matter how powerful a supercomputer it was, Tree Diagram could only operate based on the commands people gave it. It was the same as how ATMs did not ruin people’s lives because machines were revolting. They did it because they were not being used properly.

>“…”

>Mikoto did not respond and looked up into the evening sky again. Kamijou couldn’t tell if she was looking at the blimp or if her gaze went even further into the distance than that.

>“Tree Diagram…The world’s most powerful super computer that was launched aboard Academy City’s satellite, Orihime I, in order to analyze weather data. It has been determined that no one else will catch up to its level in another 25 years,” Mikoto muttered almost under her breath as if she were reading from an Academy City pamphlet. “They say that, but does such a ridiculous absolute simulator really exist?”

>“Hah?”

>Kamijou looked back toward Mikoto’s face, but…

>“Just kidding! Ah, I think I started to become a poet or something. Ah ha ha ha ha!!”

>Mikoto suddenly chopped Kamijou for no reason.

>Standing before him was indeed the lively, smart-assed, and selfish Misaka Mikoto.

>“Ow! What the hell was that for!?”

>“You really don’t have any dreams, do you? Doesn’t a friendship drama between a human and a high-level SF computer with a human heart sound like it would have some romance to it!?”

>“Listen, dammit…”

>“Or what about a maid battle robot?”

>“I said listen! And there’s no romance or any kind of friendship drama-like stuff to that thing! And are you really a ‘lady’!? I thought a lady read romance novels with a cup of tea in hand!?”

>“Hahn? Stop that, please. What age is that idol of an image from? I’m human too, so I read manga at the convenience store every Monday and Wednesday.”

>>117652833

>“Buy it! That’s just being a nuisance!”

>“Well, I have to go this way,” Mikoto said ignoring Kamijou’s yell.

>Mikoto’s spirits had been changing from instant to instant, but she then left. Kamijou blankly watched her leave with a puzzled look on his face.

>“…I don’t understand her. Is this what you call the characteristics of puberty? Or does she just hate me?”

>>117652861
>>117652833
>>117652791
>>117652751
>>117652714
>>117652689

Jesus christ, fuck off

>>117652809
in real life, not anime life

>>117652397
Kamachi doesn't really care about popularity. Otherwise Mikoto would have been a MC of the novels since ages ago.

Mikoto's popularity has done nothing for her. Kamachi still gives other girls better treatment, like better and more important/climatic scenes with Touma, and more relevance for the plot, which allows them to create more impactful and memorable scenes. He might feel obliged to not leave her behind and include her in the novels, but you seriously can see the difference in the quality of writing between her scenes and the other girls'.

>>117652794
>Othinus still remains as the closest girl to Touma, and will stay by his side as the closest girl to him until the series ends.
Once upon a time the same could have been said about Index, now people say Othinus, who knows if someone else will come along.

>>117643215
Third season never.

>>117652794
To undermine is a given for detractors. It's part of what they do.

You're still speaking for a minority, not the majority. Don't pretend to think those who were her fans would come to just dislike her for the same opinion you hold. Mikoto's nature as a tsundere hasn't changed drastically, but she has gotten more dere and has been there for Touma to share his burden. It's beyond unreasonable to even imagine most of her fans would turn against her like you want to claim.

Please, even if she's destined to lose, the effort and journey is what's important, not the destination at the end. One could say Mikoto a tragic heroine then since all the things she do for Touma won't be reciprocated. The feelings and effort is what matters.

>Othinus still remains as the closest girl
One of the girls, yes, but her ship as shunk regardless, so there's no chance for a romantic pairing.

>Kamachi could have done for other heroines over the course of the series, resumed in just one and under special circumstances.
If he did something similar before or or too many times, Othinus wouldn't be any special. She had unique circumstances going for her. And the build up was so grand that it was beyond global scale and required more than half a dozen volumes to get to. It's just not comparable.

>>117653064
Index WAS the closest girl to Touma prior-NT9. There is not doubt about it.

As there is not doubt that Othinus is now occupying that place after NT9-10.

>>117652988
I was just saying that she is a threat to the other girls, her popularity will prevent any of them from getting a win despite being treated poorly as you said.

>>117653138
A new girl can come and supplant her like Othinus did if Kamachi wanted to.

>>117652689
>>117652714
>>117652751
>>117652791
>>117652833
>>117652861

This was before Kamachi seemingly decided to void meaningful romantic development in his shounen work.

>>117653152
Nobody even knows if Kamachi is male or female. The series is popular enough without Mikoto. I don't think he would be worried at all to pull a Mikoto-losing end. He's safe.

>>117653217
I don't think it is possible to overtake Othinus. Her bond with Touma is literally thousands of years strong.

>>117653138
i'd say its a tossup between them

>>117653091
>but she has gotten more dere and has been there for Touma to share his burden
>One could say Mikoto a tragic heroine then since all the things she do for Touma won't be reciprocated. The feelings and effort is what matters.

The series has gotten to a point where this is not impressive or memorable in the least, especially compared to other heroines. I'm not saying that former fans are completely against her now, just that more and more people come to simply don't care and give up in the expectations of seeing her having something meaningful with Touma, to the point that everyone knows by now that it simply won't happen, and her screentime in the novels is just a huge waste. It's not wonder that sentiment is present, because her feelings for Touma are the only motives she has to be involved in the plot. There's a limit to how much an author can drag out an onesided relationship like hers, and that limit was reached long time ago.

>One of the girls, yes, but her ship as shunk regardless, so there's no chance for a romantic pairing.
No, the only girl. And it is not completely dead. Kamachi can always pull something out of his ass to recover her normal size.

>If he did something similar before or or too many times, Othinus wouldn't be any special. She had unique circumstances going for her. And the build up was so grand that it was beyond global scale and required more than half a dozen volumes to get to. It's just not comparable.
It is comparable in meta terms. She is an example of a relevant girl that got meanigful development for the plot and Touma's character. The author chose her for that end, and not one of the already established heroines.

>>117653138
Kamachi consistently wrote Index to be his most important person for 30 volumes, it's too early to say that he's closer to Othinus.

>>117652861
>“…I don’t understand her. Is this what you call the characteristics of puberty? Or does she just hate me?”

It's funny how this initial impression of her is still valid at this point of the story.

Touma seriously can't be bothered to try to understand Mikoto and her personality. He doesn't care that she goes out of her way to travel to the other side of the world in the middle of a world war just to save him. He doesn't care that she goes to the other side of the world just to fight alongside him despite having no obligation, ties or connections to him or the problems he is involved with.

He might be thankful when it comes down to it, but he's not going to dedicate a special thought or monologue as to why she acts that way for him. He is not going to give her special treatment for what she does for him. He is not going to even consider the chance that she might like him and that being the reason she worries too much for him. He is not going to try to get closer to her despite all that. He is not going to grow any affection or feelings for her.

It baffles me how such an onesided, unrealistic and poorly written relationship can stll be so popular.

>>117653367
>>117653895

See >>117653335

Index can't compete with that. Othinus was on another whole level compared to the rest of the series.

>>117654054
Maybe he assumes she's of a similar mind to him, in that she also tries to save people

>>117643215

Getting a Touma dick mold made and then having a dildo made from it.

It'll have the unique ability of also being immune to her abilities since it'll be rubber.

>>117653695
>not impressive or memorable
Only if you compare it to Othinus, which I bet you do.
>come to simply don't care and give up in the expectations
> knows by now that it simply won't happen
Still a minority. I can see people are rather disappointed thus want more and expect more because Kamachi is slacking at it.
>only motives she has to be involved in the plot.
Wrong. Railgin manga is clearly establishing her to be part of Aleister's plan. Even without that, to move for Touma isn't even a bad thing. That's just goes to show how much feelings she has and how far she would go for him.
>limit was reached long time ago.
No, not yet. It will only come to that after a huge event between the two of them. That's something most are still expecting since that'll be the only thing that can determine if the ship will be sunk or not.

>the only girl.
Stop forgetting about Index.
>it is not completely dead
I would say your optimism is getting the better of you. Even if she returned to normal size, their relationship would definitely be the same as it is now, being just like Index.

>comparable in meta terms.
To us, maybe, but not to the other girls in the series.

>>117654054
>What is dense protag
>Wanting to see two opposite yet same individuals on some levels to understand/like each other
>Bias
Don't pretend you're new to harem, spammer.

>>117654093
He simply hasn't given any thought about her. No matter what she does, Touma is not going to pay special attention to her.

>>117654217
>Don't pretend you're new to harem, spammer.
You're not addressing any of my points.

>>117654371
>not addressing any of my points.
It's funny when you of all people say that. Disregard arguments in the past and spam copypasta over and over again until people are tired of you.

>>117654217
>Only if you compare it to Othinus, which I bet you do.
No. There's also The Will of the Network, Itsuwa, Misaki, Index, etc.

>I can see people are rather disappointed thus want more and expect more because Kamachi is slacking at it.
That was true some years ago, but that sentiment switched to simply not wanting more, because more and more people come to realize that it is just pointless screentime that will not go anywhere, and that Kamachi never planned any kind of meaningful development with her and Touma.

>No, not yet. It will only come to that after a huge event between the two of them. That's something most are still expecting since that'll be the only thing that can determine if the ship will be sunk or not.
That "huge" event was probably their scene in NT10. I bet things will stay the same for them after that supposedly "big" scene between the two, and that is going to feed that sentiment even more.

>Stop forgetting about Index.
Index comes in second, but is far behind Othinus.

>To us, maybe, but not to the other girls in the series.
Sucks to be them. Or not really for the girls that have their own goals and lifes outside Touma. Considering that, it only sucks for Mikoto, as she is the only girl that is actively trying to get closer to him and fight alongside him despite having no obligation or duty to do so. See, this is what separates her from the other heroines, and probably the main cause that generates this sentiment against her relationship with Touma and role in the novels.

>>117654633
You're assuming I'm a spammer and avoiding the argument at hand.

>>117654682
>Will of the Network
Mikoto already did something similar to what she did.
>Itsuwa
She's behind all the girls you mentioned plus Mikoto in terms of memorable and effort. Does not help she's forgotten and put on the back burner along with most other heroines indefinitely as not a serious contender. At the rate Birdway is going, she'll have more than Itsuwa by a lot.
>Misaki
She was behind before NT11 and still relatively is. They had a cute encounter a year ago, but that's that. Saving Touma in the present isn't something Mikoto hasn't done before herself.
>Index
She hasn't done anything worthwhile in a long time to up her status to other heroines. She has her closest position, but that's mostly it.
>was true some years ago
Was and still is. Not just here, but very much so in various other places.

>Index comes in second, but is far behind Othinus.
Not really. Too bad Index is the other main girl so Othinus in the end has no real shot.

>it only sucks for Mikoto
You know she still has her Imoutos to deal with and does have other things to deal with, something Railgun is use for to show. Her feelings for Touma might be the most important, but it's not everything.

>this is what separates her from the other heroines, and probably the main cause that generates this sentiment against her relationship with Touma and role in the novels.
When you put it this way, you have a point or two, but in relation to the fact her chances of winning is low, very low given the direction Kamachi is set on going down. There won't be any winner in the end. Harem end is the most likely.

>>117654718
>Same "argument" spewed out a thousand times
Have fun in the archive.

>>117655166
>Same "argument" spewed out a thousand times
What? This is the first time I've made a post showing the lack of interest and affection Touma has for Mikoto despite the lengths she goes just for him, being the only girl that does that.

>>117643215
How much happier she would be if Railgun got a season the with Tomura nowhere to be seen.

Touma jokes around with Othinus and flirts with her, and he definitely understands her better than any other girl due to spending thousands of years with her, but with Index his seeing her happy in that perfect world was what finally broke him, he's willing to lie to her so she won't leave him and angsts about it for several volumes, and he's shown bloodlust on her behalf when she's injured, I'd say they are pretty even despite them not doing much to deserve his affection

>>117655166
Harem end is not possible, it would go against what we know about Touma and his love interests, none of them would accept it.

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>>117655316
Ok and watch him fall in love with her and BAM! loses his memory again.
>>117655299
And then she lives happily ever after with Shirai and they have tons of kids together.

>>117655166
You're underestimating Itsuwa. She got closer to Touma than Mikoto ever was in vol 16. It doesn't matter that she's not relevant. Mikoto still hasn't topped her to this day when she has had more chances and time.

>Not really. Too bad Index is the other main girl so Othinus in the end has no real shot.
Yes really, and Othinus has the same status as Index now. Probaly even more important given that she's more knowledgeable and useful than Index in battle. Kamachi won't throw away all the things done in NT10. Othinus will stay by Touma's side as the new main heroine until the end.

>Her feelings for Touma might be the most important, but it's not everything.
It's everything she has in Index, which happens to be the subject at hand. Railgun is another whole story.

>but in relation to the fact her chances of winning is low, very low given the direction Kamachi is set on going down
And everyone knows that too, that's why they don't want any more of the same shit in the novels. The relationship is only growing more and more one-sided, forced and unrealistic with no chances in hell of coming to fruition, be it postiively or negatively.
The series doesn't need to drag it out any more. Enough of that already.

>>117655652
>And then she lives happily ever after with Shirai and they have tons of kids together.
With all the sisters running around they wouldn't even need to make them themselves.

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>>117655802
the sisters have a short life span in case you have forgotten.

We just need Kongou and Misaka going on adventures with Uiharu as sidekick. Fuck everyone else.

>>117655878
heaven canceller handwaved that

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>chuuni Mikoto

>>117655957
All espers are chuuni by default. It's how they create personal realities and have their own superpowers.

>>117655899
He only extended it. I dont think they will live passed 15 years.

>>117655898
Agreed man.

I don't get why the author is still pushing hard Mikoto's failure of a relationship with Touma onto us, when she has people around her, who are part of her everyday life, are loyal friends, and like and appreciate her for what she is.

>>117655990
>>117656015
>>117656065
>>117656093
>>117656134
There a english one of this?

>>117656195
http://kodoku21.blog83.fc2.com/blog-entry-3478.html

>>117656332
i dont see english

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>It's time for your rectal examination, anon

>>117656436
BECAUSE THERE IS NONE!

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>>117656479
Then what is the point in posting it.

>>117656591
It is to spite you.

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>>117656675

lesbian sex

>>117656591
There is not even raws you teleporting faggot. He's just posting because why the fuck not?

>>117656371
God, what if Xebec had Raildex and they animated Othinus?

>>117656864
It would be shit obviously.

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>>117656837
Im a lady thank you very much. And go fuck yourself.

>>117656965
What about lewd OVAs?

>>117656970
>btw i'm a grill
ebin post, faggot.

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>>117643215
how to make this possible

>>117657037
change her personality

>>117655615
Harem end is the status quo. Touma picks no one and his daily life continues as it is.

>>117655657
>closer to Touma than Mikoto
But she didn't. Touma treats her the same as any other heroine not Othinus and Index. Since that's the case, scoring points with Touma and having awesome/memorable/cute scenes is the thing to go by. Mikoto's track record tops her.

>Kamachi won't throw away all the things done in NT10. Othinus will stay by Touma's side as the new main heroine until the end.
Of course not. The point was simply the romance ship for the two sailed. Othinus is the new and better Index now and will surely be with him to the end.

>It's everything she has in Index
She's a main heroine in Index that's a long work in progress who has already established herself beyond being a heroine of an arc. Everything after Index vol.3 is meant to develop her with Touma, and once she realized her feelings, what came after is a logically follow-up, which extended to NT.

Even if you say her plot is mainly carried out because of Touma, why is that bad? She already has Railgun to supplement her for outside of Touma. That gives Kamachi better use of time to give development between Touma and Mikoto without having to waste time developing Mikoto outside of Touma in Index.

Kamachi is already setting Mikoto up to be included deeper in Aleister's plan anyways, so future debates of this will be moot.

>Enough of that already.
Everything you said about this is just a matter of opinion.

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>>117657037
I rather cool fem-bro end.

>>117643215
Is it just me, or does Mikoto have one of the part cutest, part sexiest, part loveliest faces? I dont think its a coincidence that her face creates 200+ post threads. Mikotobros are smitten and Mikoto haters are hard tsun because she is so cute.

Seriously. Her design in enchanting.

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>>117657037
>>117657211

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>>117657243
That she does. It's the miracle of her plain and simple yet sexy and attractive design.

>>117657243
I don't like her because of her shitty personality, not her looks.

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>>117657482
>Implying her personality isn't part of what makes her so great

>>117657544
Aside the fact she tends to almost murder the one she crushes on every time she meets him being even near another girl.

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>>117658879
>Knows he'll block
>Doesn't expect him to be harmed
>No intention of killing

Moe~

>>117659105
>Touma shot by a gun seriously injured
>sitting on a bench some girl taking care of him
>Bibiri sees him with the girl
>seriously attacks injured TouMAN

There were many more situations like this

>>117659209
>Cherrypicking the time she didn't know Touma was injured thus wouldn't be able to block
>Still literally comedy and showed she never does hit him with intent to kill

>>117659532
>cherrypicking
Dude did you even read the novel?
There were so many situations where she almost killed him for stupid or no reasons at all.

>>117659591
Yeah and I'm not a hater like you who sees it as murder instead of typical tsundere antic.
>almost
Nope.

>tl;dr
and this is why I just read the manga

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>>117643215
The anime club.

>>117659670
>Touma jumping from roof to roof
>Birbiri sees him, attacks him while he is mid air between the roofs
>he falls, survived by sheer luck

>>117659779
Oh fucking hell, every single time I see that stupid bullshit pic I cringe again and again

>>117659779
i sure hope they have a lot of productive activity done in the annual report

>>117659779
I don't get it

>>117659794
>Saw and noticed Touma was about to jump off the roof
>Changed to the thought of zapping to using her magnetic power on his belt to pull him back before he made a leap
>Power went into effect the moment after Touma was in mid-air
>IB negated the magnetic pull

Nice job cherrypicking and putting it out of context as ever, THK.

>>117660005
>implying she didn't know about IB
>implying her aim isn't to kill him so no one could ever have him

>>117660168
She knows it's his right hand that's special that negates things. That doesn't extend to his belt. The fact his belt got affected in the first place makes it obvious IB wasn't negating her power until after for whatever reason Touma acted on.

>kill him so no one could ever have him
You were serious and now you're not. It never ends for you.

does accelerator ever do anything that doesn't involve the sisters?

>>117662430
vending machines

>>117656371
Man, these fuckers are moving fast after realizing how popular Othinus got from her screentime

She's such a shit character, don't know why anyone likes her. She should be an onee-san type with long hair and bigger breasts.

>>117663608
>Normalfag
Fuck off.

>>117664092
Sure, anyone you disagree with is a "normalfag"

Fact is she'd be better my way, and minus the tsundere personality.

>>117664168
Nope. Fuck off, /v/ermin.

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>>117664239
I can't handle all these buzzwords

>>117643215
>She's such a shit character, don't know why anyone likes her. She should be an onee-san type with long hair and bigger breasts.

>>117663608
>>117664523
>Posting twice

>>117659779
Did that one anon a few weeks back actually went to try it out? I want to hear some tales about it.

>>117664779
https://archive.moe/_/search/image/Gf9uIiKDAD6muhDND5uxRw%3D%3D/

Give it a rest, spammer.

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>Wake up
>Still don't see the obvious answer posted

You know it's true.

>>117664779
Surprise telebort where

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>>117665276

>>117657050
>Opinion
Nah. He stated some crude and undeniable facts.

>>117662430
Hawaii.

This thread brings up some interesting and solid points about Mikoto in the novels. I agree with most of the arguments against her relationship with Touma. The author should stop fooling the readers and drop the pretense.

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>Mikoto as she sees another girl who had the guts she never had confessing to Touma and Touma accepting her

>>117673840
>Touma accepting her
this'll never happen to anyone ever

Hey guys, I'm new to the Raildex franchise and I have a few questions.

Does the anime do justice to the manga/novels?

Is Index -> Railgun -> Index 2 -> Index movie -> Railgun S -> Railgun OVA a good watching order? I'm aware that they overlap with each other chronologically.

Worth watching in 1080p?

Has UTW/Mazui subbed all the seasons?

Is BiriBiri best girl? Is Touma a good MC?

>>117674709
no but it is not as bad as people make it seem
yes, railgun s could be watched right after railgun
yes
utw
no, plenty are better but othinus is best
yes but not in the anime

>>117673936
I feel like he would have accepted Othinus had she confessed to him.

>>117674919
But she's not into him

>>117674709
>1080p
lol no

>>117674709
All of those questions could be answered yourself.

Watch it in 60FPS.

>>117674919
>othi goes from smug sorta smart ass with bits dere to violent chibi
why kamachi just why

>>117674970
Even Kamachi disagrees with that.

>>117674902
Thanks Anon. I'm close to finishing Index 1, would you recommend me to keep watching the anime or should I jump into the manga?

>>117675026
I know, but hearing opinions from some veterans is good.

is othi still a magic god? iirc she was weakened to her current state because she used gungnir and the fairy spell at the same time. also they didn't retrieve her eye did they?

>>117675744
She is.

>>117656392
so that's what he looks like when he goes to school

>>117676306
He looks like that fag from Code:Breaker.

looking back, the magic god gang was too smug and talked way to much shit about crowley and aiwass to have been wiped out off screen. i think they kick his ass.

>>117676306
Is accell still supposed to be in school?

>>117674709
>Is Touma a good MC?

It bores me that when he fights he always rant and preach the bad guys before punching them in the face. Every. Fucking. Time

Biribiri is a pain in the ass in Raildex but is cool in Railgun

>>117676610
read the LNs, you'll appreciate our lord and savior more

>>117649627
That's because you can't convert amps to voltage. It doesn't work like that.

There can be a certain number of amps running through a 120v or 12000v circuit.

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>>117676561
He dropped out because he didn't like how they taught vectors in mathematics.

>>117678254
I would like to get vectors explained from his view, not just this random bullshit we got taught at school

>>117676558
But Aleister took care of them.

>>117676561
He earns a great living by being the strongest esper. Just imaging hoe many underground esper fights he's won.

>>117681463
I thought they just fried half of his body because he was talking shit?

It didn't sound like Aliester won, it sounded like he was glad he got a chance to talk shit and not get (completely) hit.

>>117682544
We'll see. It could go either way.

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>>117678254
what was the name of that video again? i can't find it

One time I sucked in a row
One time I sucked six dirty dicks in a row
One time I got my kicks with Joe when I sucked his dick and five of his friends in a row!

>>117684993
tl;dr

>>117649627
Because voltage alone is pointless if you don't know amperage.

The standard analogy: Electricity is like water running through a pipe. Voltage is the water pressure, current (amperage) is the pipe's diameter. Power (V*A) is how much water comes out per second. Since what fries you is power, you can withstand obscenely high voltages if the current is just as low, and vice versa.

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>>117676610
>It bores me that when he fights he always rant and preach the bad guys before punching them in the face. Every. Fucking. Time


>"Wah, my brother died to a roller coaster. Fuck science I'm going to murder you all!"

The average motivation of the villains is pretty shit. So I usually agree with Touma's pre-punch speeches.

Daily reminder that Raildex would have been 10 times better without the annoying index loli.

>>117685712
She's hardly relevant anyway.

>>117685712
>loli

is it just me or does crowley's archetype control sound just like the rumor thing from railgun ss2

I'm reading the 16th novel now. Does it get any good? I mean Shiage and Accelerator are pretty good but Kamijou parts are absolute shit.

>>117684705
>>117682544
>>117681463
“Have you found something to make up for what happened?” asked the golden retriever walking with Kihara Yuiitsu. “It was clearly a mistake to contact the Magic Gods at that point. Did you finally learn your lesson now that you have to recover from getting a third of your body burned so badly?”
sounds like he lost

Why is Touma so based?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5ZqgNJ2xNI

>>117686802
It gets a lot better around world war 3.

>>117688498

Thank you man. The fight with Acqua is getting forever.

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Who is best girl and why is it Saten-Chan?

>>117689282
Slut.

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>>117688962
>>117689487
RIP in pieces.

>>117689311
nice meme

>>117689673
>meme

>>117689566
i still don't know what this image is about

>>117689726
Mikoto and Kurokos VAs were in corpse party

>>117689726
VA joke. Play Corpse Party.

>>117690717
>>117690858
The anime is irredeemably shit

>>117691645
some bits have restored my faith in these adaptions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjbWYXGkMZk

>>117691645
That's why I said "play".

>>117690717
I hope Raildex ends like Corpse Party.

>>117694275
I just want it to end already. Last thing we need is another Onepiece or shit that rehashes the same plot over and over again and they haven't even completed a year.

>>117695013
But One Piece is actually good, unlike Index.

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She needs her own spin-off series.

>>117697689
Never going to happen. She has enough screentime in Railgun.

>>117697689
>kuroko spin off
>not vento

>>117697851
there is never enough screentime for Kuroko

>>117643215
why do her socks look so poofy?

can fiamma do normal magic now or is fairy stake angel magic?

>>117697894
She gets more than she deserves, actually.

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>>117697866
>Vento
>not Stiyl and Sasha

>>117649468

Please save us based Fiamma and Accelerator-

>>117698202
i'm against loli abuse anon

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>>117698202
I want. Sasha spin-off please. Actually, make it Birdway who's my most favorite girl followed by Misaka and Othinus.

tfw no aiwass spin off

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>>117698261
But it would only have loli kicking ass. Tsuchimikado can come too.

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Othinus ships Accel x Mikoto

My OTP is magic god tier. What about yours?

>>117699444
Touma already destroyed that illusion.

>>117699444
>Othinus ships Accel x Mikoto
did i miss when this happened?

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>>117699444
Praise Othinus-chan.

>>117699518
>Destroyed my OTP
T-Thanks, Touma.

>>117699854
Omega world.