how is dirty pair? i've seen it mentioned enough times to warrant it going on my backlog
It's basically cowboy bebop+space dandy+charlies angels.
those are all really nice things
economic bubbles do make women look more attractive
It's because they are hand drawn with love, you can really tell how much of it the animators put effort into them compared to modern day anime where everything is lazier by being done on a computer.
LABOR OF LOVE
Why would Tenchi even think about any girls other than Ryoko? She's clearly the best.
Oh God, what the fuck did they do?
Why must he keep raping Tenchi Muyo's corpse like this.
Fuck you, Kajishima. It's dead already. Leave it alone, and put your rotten dick in something else.
>Keeps sweating over little sit
>Nervous all the fucking time
>He's no longer passive and stoic
>Somehow growing older, obtaining elder godhood, and become a professor turns you into a pussy
Why is Japan post 90s so damn gay?
I haven't really watched anime regularly in over a decade, and don't much care anymore. But fuck, this travesty put tears in my eyes. Just why? Why does Kajishima insist on making all these shows and just spew an explosive stream of diarreah all over every character that made the original unique? How can someone hate their greatest creation with such a burning passion?
Posting an OVA is kind of cheating. You can get movie-level attention to detail with TV-level practicality of execution. It's best of both worlds.
It's not cheating, considering the 90s had a very high output of OVAs, and the quality of OVAs was much higher back then compared to now.
OVAs now just tend to be more of the same TV quality shit.
The OVA market was a fantastic place for animators and studios to do something unique or experimental or just tell their story without concern for censors and not have to invest the money for a theatrical release.
Nowadays, OVAs are treated as a cheap cash-in on a TV show's popularity where they get to be a little extra ecchi and a actually show nipples without shitty censoring techniques since you're already buying the disc(in theory) to see it.
I just hope something changes in Japan's anime distribution model to allow for more OVA production. Especially taking advantage of digital distribution methods. Just SOMETHING to make OVAs profitable as standalone enterprises so we can get back to that way of giving directors and studios a chance to do something experimental.
I gave up on anime completely about a decade ago. I was more of a fan in the 90s, and there's really not anything left for me. It's one of my favorite mediums, and it's chock full of potential, but it just veered off in the wrong direction in the early 2000s. All the experimental or moderately interesting stuff just disappeared, and it started to pander solely to otaku. There was certainly otaku pandering back in the 90s as well, but it was different, and filled with in-jokes and its own culture. Today it's just mass consumerism aimed at the worst losers of society.
Nah, he just owns the fucking franchise.
Anyway, why the fuck would they make a new Tenchi and mostly leave out the original cast? Why leave out the very thing that made it stand out and make it unique?
I mean, they really want to focus on Tenchi, the most generic, dull character in the show, along with a bunch of random anime chicks?
I just can't fathom the logic behind it. People watched the show for the girls, because they were interesting, well written and well designed. Tenchi was just a catalyst for them to react to.
>Not posting the best babe.
Wrong pic there buddy.
people don't "give up" what they love faggot.
it just means you were a fake and a poser
feel free to go back in fuckoffia, fuckass shithead
>experimental and moderately
That's like saying no good painting has been made after reinnassance because now we have graphics and photography pandering to mass market.
go away, bitch
BITCH, BITCH, FUCKING TRAITOR CUNT
FUCK OFF BITCH
well people into this shit probably could be the parents of a relevant percentage of today's /a/
It was before everything became so Moe.
I'm the one that should feel sorry for you, first because you missed living in the golden age of nip animation, and second because you're using ellipses, that is something definitely more abject than using caps.
Of course they were, but they weren't the cancer killing anime at the time.
Evangelion blackhole marketing and bubble burst killed the industry. just that. it simply became too fucking big for its fucking legs.
moe and verious shades of otakuism that came out in the years doesn't mean anything.
but its ok like this.
First of all, I did live in the golden age of anime.
Second, what kind of adult goes on a tantrum like an autistic child, because someone else grows out of anime?
Third, ellipses are used properly to convey trailing off, which is different from simply adding it to every sentence.
I deeply resent that 2nd line.
I'm not him thankfully, but it still hits a nerve.
It saddens me to see a fa grow out of the hobby, but as long as I'm still here, I welcome all newcomers.
so many different emotions at once, goodness
This was my face reading your whole post.
feel free to draw a cross on you "internet arguments won" wall, because I forfeit this one
>what kind of adult
They're not truly the cancer killing anime right now either. Although the reliance on archetypes in order to sell figures to otaku is irritating as fuck.
But the truth is that it's an industry with very limited appeal. What's worse is that there's about thirty shows being pumped out each season which causes a lot of saturation.
Well, being ignorant about what you were watching and raking up any possible info about it was part of the charm of ovas back then, togheter with surviving eyeraping VHS quality and chinese or french subs.
having BD rips on nyaa everytime you fancy is fucking fantastic, but watching anime before internet felt like exploring something new that nobody outside the circles knew.
Yeah, that was part of the charm. Also, lower availability, also increases the enjoyment of things.
Now that every form of entertainment is immediately available through the internet, you get burned out quickly, and each individual thing isn't as good as it was in the past.
I've virtually burned out on most forms of entertainment, because I've just consumed too much of it over the past decades. TV shows, movies, games... I can go weeks and months without touching any of it, because I've seen every fucking clichè and stereotype before.
At least it leaves me with more time to pursue other hobbies that are far more creative.
< Cheating with early 90's babe.
Know what you mean but no, sorry.
Well, I'm really close to that. I've devoured so much fiction of every kind in the years that everything that doesn't have actually something fresh inside is absolutely boring. the reason I'm still into animation is, I admire skill, and that luckily it never disappears completely from this medium, be it direction, animation or design. these guys aren't like shitty hollywood or fox tv "artists", these are demure, autistic people that work themselves obsessively to perfect their professional techniques. well often. and its art, artisan art, still great even if made just to make money out of profitable 40 years old virgins.
I actually wonder if there are versions of that scene still around.
I was born in the 90s and didn't get any of this cool shit. Can you guys give me the names of fome of these shows? I can navigate well enough to find them meyself if I have a name go off of.
It might be different from Hollywood, but the only difference is that they rely on other stereotypes and clichés.
The primary reason I don't enjoy anime, aside from the severe drop in art direction and skill, is the fact that every character and story element is the same, down to the intonation of a character's voice. I've seen it all before.
And I don't even know why they do this. They don't have to rely on predictable writing, when you literally have the freedom to do anything.
Because they're forced to sell. the industry has become so big it can't survive in passive a single year. the skill is still there, you just need to keep your eyes open, and archetypes are just the nip way to do. its been always like this, the 70 and 80's were the exception.
and anyway, go watch Ping Pong or Kaiba and tell me what archetypes you see.
the 80s had some style
still looking for subs of this anime
I've actually started to wonder how far the level of anime infiltration goes in Japanese society. Even when it's not anime itself, many aspects of the otaku culture itself seems to persist, such as idols and girl bands, along with the extremely superficial pop culture and pandering to losers.
Of course, this is all seen from an outsider who hasn't actually been to Japan yet, so I might be totally off base.
There's a plethora of articles and books that describe otaku in detail. you can start looking around Evageeks forums and Colony Drop e-zine.
actually /jp/ is also a great place, but to find the right people and start a discussion you need to endure levels of autism that normal humans find lethal.
MODS ARE ASLEEP
Noa a qt
Why can't we have more shows like Patlabor? It has cute girls and dumb hijinx but manages to do it within a fairly serious (feeling) setting and can ramp up the drama when it needs to.
spoiler for nothing from the neck down
Meh. I kinda prefer the otaku culture of the 80s and mid-90s. After that, it just got sad. Any subculture that achieves some sort of widespread popularity, tends to collapse in on itself.
Hell, we're on 4chan, which defines that concept.
i literally don't understand why he named her that
was anno just avin' a laff or something?
exactly. otaku subculture died the exact moment Evangelion exposed it fully to the world. "otaku culture" today is a clone that doesn't know to be a clone, completely manouvered by foreign affairs and tourism ministry and anime companies raking money for it. just like blade runner. Akihabara is fake. its a tourist and press trap. read around, you'll be surprised of how things worked out in the 90's
I'll always have a soft spot for Urushihara.
Especially the way he draws nipples.
I'd say the genuine otaku culture lasted until the late 90s, which was roughly when I became an anime fan.
My first real anime was Akira back in 1994, though, when they aired it uncensored on TV for some reason. The channel promoted the hell out of it, and even sent a documentary and wrote an article on Akira and Japanese anime.
Fuck me, it was amazing to watch as a kid. It just opened up a new world.
I don't think modern kids will ever get this, as they're spoonfed every form of entertainment from they're born.
Though stuff, I almost gave up on anime because I like plenty of late 90s-early 00s series, OVAs and music, and many of the people who liked those are mostly near their 30s, and by that time people change, ofteng moving on. Older anime discussion isn't as easy as retro game discussion, and even harder for those younger than the original fags.
I liked 70s anime babes more tbh.
>I don't think modern kids will ever get this
True, but they will get something else. maybe not this generation, maybe not the next, but sooner or later it will happen again its the human nature that dictates this.
someone, somewhere, someway will go farther and break out, and people like him, the minority that doesn't feel at home with the majority, will follow. RULES OF NATURE etc.
Passing 30 is a shitty experience. Not because you feel old, but because there's a new generation of little shits behind you who now dictate popular culture, and unless you're a manchild, it likely doesn't fit your taste. You really just lose the ability to connect with new people, and the ones your age usually move on, or focus on specific hobbies, rather than the generalized shit that young people like.
I was too old for the Pokemon generation, but remember how fucking obnoxious it was when all the kids were shitting their pants over that retarded show. It's very strange for me to see a whole generation of people in their 20s obsessing over kiddie stuff like that, no matter what excuses they make about how mature they think it is.
This. The Yu-Gi-Oh threads are kind of surprising to me, considering its aimed at kids in the 8-14 age range. I was wondering how many are watching it just for nostalgia.
Sometimes I feel like I don't belong on /a/, because I usually only find 2 or 3 shows a season anymore than I enjoy and complete. I've gotten much more picky on what I watch now. Its the same thing for games.
I'm more fascinated by the way he draws faces and eyes.
It's not moeblob yet, but it's still so incredibly sweet. The girls he draws look like they'd taste like peach and ice cream if you licked them.
I'm exactly like you, even older, but I'm always on the edge of the new shit. your problem is that you didn't grew out the most important thing: your tastes. why you care about popular culture? just watch how it goes and take what you makes you curious. if its shit you still have the old things. why you don't connect with younger people? they are full of things you don't get, and you can give them a lot of unknown stuff. and if they're too young just leave them be.
>I've gotten much more picky
well that's just normal. everyone did this growing up, even when things were slower or with other media that changed at lower speeds, like western comics
>tfw you can't tell fellow nerds how much you like retro anime and 80s/90s stuff in general because of that "born in le wrong generation" meme.
Know what's worse than being a thirty-something otaku fag whose interests have become a niche over the years? Being a twenty-something nerd with the same tastes. Everybody thinks I'm a hipster who only pretends to have a hard-on for that shit, or dismisses me for not having more current tastes.
I spent years in the anime community, without really watching any shows, before I realized I had outgrown anime and that it had changed too much for my taste.
I still like some of the art, and I've been drawing the shit for 14 years now, despite not having been an anime fan for almost a decade. It's a very odd position to be in, drawing stuff for people you don't share a fandom with. I suppose I should move on, but I'm stuck in my ways.
You're riding the wave of neo-post vintage anime that will hit in four-five years. don't budge or you'll be alone again when people forgot what hipster means and 90's anniemays are the new black
He makes it hard to pick a waifu for the endings of Growlanser games because the designs are always really good.
Usually solved with multiple playthroughs
I'm highly cynical. I don't know if it's because I'm picky, have specific tastes, have become more mature or if I'm simply a jaded asshole. It's probably a little bit of each.
There's very little in popular culture I enjoy. I try new things, but they don't sit well with me. I don't connect with young people, because I see the same types I knew growing up, or I see my previous self. This includes all the ignorance and false beliefs young people have, and these tend to repeat themselves in certain age groups, no matter what the cultural landscape is. That being said, I do have some younger friends, but I usually just nod and smile when they talk about how awesome something is. I don't think they'd like lectures about what they like is superficial shit, and no one likes a cynical asshole.
Anyway, I focus more on fitness, hiking, engineering, robotics, drawing, brewing beer or just spending free time outside with friends or in my boat.
I wish I were alive back when anime had to be passed around as if it were illegal. I'd make it big in the anime game, Making money pimping big-haired Japanese bitches, hustlin that 2D shit, know what I'm sayin?
I don't think anyone would make that argument. I think the argument is that they don't get the cultural zeitgeist of that era.
It's like experiencing the hippie era versus liking music from the era. I don't think we can get what it was like, if we weren't there. We can still enjoy the music, though.
Yeah, I read the most frustratingly slow manga of all time: Berserk.
Also read Ippo. It's just a very comfortable read, as long as I turn off my brain.
Used to read Blade of the Immortal and Vagabond, but I haven't looked into them in years for some reason.
I have kinda the impression that you're kinda a rich guy with no drive. you do all these things, and call yourself jaded asshole? or even better, you call yourself jaded asshole in a discussion abut entertainment? I've become a jaded asshole because i feel no more pity for weak or victimized people, not because I get bored by drinking beer on my boat.
you say you keep seeing the same types of people, but its true that what we see of the people around us depends also on how they perceive them. at this point I don't know what to say, apart that expecting excitement from trite mass culture is one of the naivest things a grown man could expect, except if he uses it as padding from everything that's empty in his life. try taking a trip in the emerald city, maybe the wizard can give you a spare heart.
I wish there was an anime that started out as a millenial harem "comedy" with a bland-ass protagonist who has the proportions of a ten year old, an abusive tsundere loli and the usual moeblob cast; and slowly turns into an 80s action show, with the MC becoming a muscular badass with big eyebrows, and the girls becoming fluffy-haired action babes who aren't dumb sluts and have noses.
Wasn't much money to be made. It was all very communal, sharing that shit because you could. It was slightly before my time, but I did trade VHS stuff with some Germans and Swedes.
Also watched most of Evangelion on some shitty vivo streaming format that disappeared from the face of the earth after a few years. The format was so shitty, you couldn't even skip ahead. If you tried, it just started from the beginning. Then DSL became common, I got access to an FTP with massive amount of content and I came continuously for a year, before my interest started to die down.
>I've become a jaded asshole because i feel no more pity for weak or victimized people
That's just called growing up, not becoming a jaded asshole. Becoming a jaded asshole means not enjoying things anymore and being bitter and rude because of it. Not becoming mature.
I don't think anybody has ever told me I am just pretending to like old anime. If someone did I'd brush them off like the unpleasant person they likely are.
We're talking about entertainment, so I'm talking about being a jaded asshole in relation to entertainment. It was a huge part of my life until my mid-20s.
I'm also jaded as far as society in general is concerned and most of my views are very far from acceptable, so I tend to keep them to myself. I wouldn't say it's so bad that I don't feel pity for people who are victimized. It's more along the lines that I feel society in general has far too much empathy for people who don't deserve it. But do you really want to get into a political discussion on /a/? You know how that shit turns out.
As for the things I do, I seem to do them to fill a void. I do genuinely enjoy them, but there's always that empty feeling in the back of my head that's something's missing. I assume a lot of people have this. Constant stress also makes me feel like I'm stretched too thin.
But how about that anime!
Growing up actually means lying everytime you're with someone else. adulthood doesn't exist, people remain the same if nothing traumatic happens from childhhod to coming of age.
no adult will ever say you this, because its hard to admit, and no one cares. maturity is the most rare and precious asset out there pal.
I think that's happening soon, case in point see the Gundam Origins anime coming out. Lots of newer anime viewers won't watch 79 due to it's dated art, which is a Shane since it has a good story however they'll eat up sonethibg with cgi.
But isn't Batman's waifu normally Catwoman or whatever her name was that's the daughter of the immortal ninja cult leader? Been a while since I've brushed up on my Batman, excuse the ignorance.
Funny how the most Asian looking character in anime is an American.
Secret of Mamo is truly the best Lupin movie.
She also feels the most asian, due to the constant use of Engrish.
God, I love the crisp, clear animation from the days of yore.
They didn't kick her off, the show was originally meant to end at the point that Kanuka left. The network basically begged them to keep making the show so they kept loosely adapting the manga, and as a result needed to use her replacement. She came back for everything important anyway.
>I actually wonder if there are versions of that scene still around.
Only if someone has a first-run VHS tape laying around. The scene is still there, but the frames in question were removed for the LaserDisc run and every subsequent release.
Noa is bestlabor, anon.
Has Patlabor ever looked anything less than great?
That's probably Secret of the Twilight Gemini. That one had a lot of T&A in it. I remember Funimation even releasing a version of it with the fanservice scenes cut out on one of their boxsets.
Originally, shot of her standing out of the bath lingers for a split second longer, showing her wet pubes.
>Every release? even the early japan-only ones?
As far as I know, it was only seen in the first run VHS. Even the latter VHS runs were edited, as were all LDs, DVDs and BDs.
There are scans of the shot. Of course, they're small, blurry and the color is shit. But they're out there somewhere.
>Has Patlabor ever looked anything less than great?
Yes. When it's compressed into a tiny little .gif like in >>117465653
I'm pretty sure several dozen people over on >>>/m/ would have them saved. Thought I did, too, but I'm not finding them. Did find a production sketch of naked Noriko. Still censored pubes.
Patlabor was always strong in the facial expressions department, and Noa the queen of them.
Yeah, I had them also ages ago. it would be pointless though, since the quality is shit. the only way to have it restored would be an eventual uncut version, that will never happen since Gainax have both feet in the grave.
if only Anno would buy it...
They never stopped. It's just that they look fake or stiff now. Like they're done too hastily, or as if they're trying to copy something they don't really understand.
Which is weird, because it's not that fucking complicated to animate a silly face, while retaining a lot of personality.
Great liars those two.
Keep forgetting pictures mang.
You missed your click too.
Patlabor is the absolute pinnacle of both police drama and mechs.
first movie always a best
Agreed, but the second one was pretty great too, as was TV/OVA2. OVA1 is a diamond in the rough, it set up the core of the series but didn't quite nail it.
Yeah, the breasts were often just simple hemispheres with little regard for weight, sag, gravity, or movement. Some tried harder than others, but nipple design was almost always bland and not worth mentioning.
because it looks good. I thought you 80sfags were all about muh shading.
Did you knew that Poe's law doesn't affect people with good metacognition?
good, because if it looks so shitty from that distance I can't even imagine how the fuck it can look from close.
>but nipple design was almost always bland and not worth mentioning.
Isn't it the same now?
Modern anime boobs always look like shit and have disproportionately small nipples, in my experience.
Depends on the show. Horizon and Manyuu handle their breast physics in completely different manners. There's actually a possibility to have fun with weight, but it's just not something they did in the 80s.
Dana's poofy hair is the best.
My animated crush:
gah. worst girl from the worst arc.
Mint was best Robotech girl
ew, no. she was annoying as hell.
I was a monstergirlfan before these fags came along with their newfangled shit.
Fishtits a best
It's more detailed than usual, but still relatively characterless.
ME!ME!ME! is a recent example. All those boobs with such bland asexual nipples.
I almost never see variation in anime nipple designs, regardless of time period.
Maybe the variation differences between manga and anime nipples represent the importance that a single auteur has in each medium.
So anime strives for safe market researched nipples that everybody can enjoy.
The Area 88 TV series is supposed to be better in terms of characterization and story, but I couldn't deal with that terrible turn of the century CG.
Apparently the manga gets crazy as fuck too.
Too bad the western translation got stopped halfway through.
Thought this might be relevant to the thread.
Got this though.
Almost looks like CG.
/jp/ does have good retro threads every now and then.
Watching Zeta now, why do people claim Kamille is so bad? His character improves substantially every time he fucks up. He's a good pilot too.
Do people prefer Amuro over him? Especially with how Amuro acts in Zeta?
No Keiko? The amount of fanart she receives compared to her role in the series is ridiculous.
Damn we need more redheads.
These APC/Labors are pretty neat as well.
Because his entire premise is idiotic with the whole girly name and all. Character you might be thinking be is Judau, but then again I might be biased because I want to strangle the entire kids cast in ZZ.
I think Patlabor 2 is Oshii's best movie, even if it had almost nothing to do with police mecha doing police things.
That's like me when it comes to Victory Gundam. Except I want to strangle everyone. Seriously why does every character act like a retard and does shit no one in their right minds would think of. Every single fucking one of them. Should've turned the V upsidedown and called it Autism Gundam.
Yeah, but the turret is pretty Bradley-esque.
Also, it would make sense for a Japanese unit to use western equipment, over Russian equipment.
It tries to fill too many roles and does all of them ok, for a massive cost. Troop carrier that only carries 5 troops. Scout that is too heavy and uses too much fuel. Tank killer with a under-caliber main gun. Missile platform for some reason too. Its like the new joint strike fighter. There may be some merit in replacing multiple different vehicels with just one, I just wish they did a less shitty job of it.
The new JSF is actually pretty good from all accounts.
Cheaper than the Eurofighter, equal manueverability with the Viper, and has superior targeting systems to most 4th gen aircraft.
Stop listening to some fudd like Sprey or Kopp.
The truth is, the F-35 is turning out to be a decent plane. Its outdone all of its critics.
Why else would the Chinese try to steal everything about it?
Only the F-35B is VTOL capable.
The C and A are more standard.
>$29,145,336,000 for 160 planes 
>$182,158,350 unit program cost
>$60,588,918,000 for 130 planes
>$466,068,600 unit program cost
>$67,000,000,000 for 187 planes
>$358,288,770 unit program cost
USAF, USN, and USMC F-35 purchases
>$398,584,600,000 for 2,443 planes
>$163,153,745 program unit cost (Average across all variants)
Orange haired 80s lolis are a miracle of the universe.
His illustrations suck dick. His animation is what makes him great.
>see 80s anime thread
>turns out to be /k/
Last time I saw any noses was eleven years ago.
The best part is that I actually lived it, partly thanks to living in a country that was some years behin
And btw, I may ave ben an underage faggot in this site, but that was way back in 2004, I didn't start posting until 2011 because I was a fag, but you see, I lurked a lot
I think you could say that while most nerd subcultures got flooded with normies (the bad kind) in the last few years, anime in Japan got flooded with loosers that make the comic book guy look like a nobel prize winner
Fuck you, Angel Blade is the Akira of Hentai films. I fapped so many times to this (And Beat Angel Escalayer) that I've lost count!
Thank you based Masami Obari.
God I remember where in the tape this happened. I remember ordering plastic little on word of mouth from Animerica magazine about all the bouncing tits. I wasn't disappointed.
Wrong. It's great in THEORY and on PAPER but execution was not so great. Plastic little is better animated. The hentai looks too clean, like it was done in flash. It comes off stiff like a Nether Realm fighting game.
I really wanted to like it too. It was hyped up. It comes from a great pedigree. But the ANIMATION just doesn't hold up to the OVA he did. It's sad because the IQ is better than perhaps 80-90% of what's out there but the animation is a letdown. I wish he had his OVA team to work with. Cheap hentai companies really turn out gold.
Murakami Teruaki's works are better animated. For all the scorn they get from so,e people at least the ANIMATION quality is high.
But I think you're mistaking IQ for animation. That's common.
I've got a fetish for that style of jeans myself.
Luckily, Ai often worse those in the manga - but hardly ever in the anime, which sucked for that reason alone.
That sounds like my friend. She's in her 30's and still goes to anime cons and sells her art but she's hardly with the newer anime crowd. She says she only will draw fanart of older series now and then not even that. I'm not sure how much longer her business is going to survive.