what the actual fuck?
I blame narutu.
>People arguing about chunni bullshit.
Despite her entire rant being his chuuni behavior, it had almost nothing to do with his chuuni behavior.
She's just being a jealous bitch and lashing out at him over whatever she could. She's pissed because she thinks he's blowing her off for another girl. If she actually hated his chuuni nonsense so much, she'd have fucked off long ago. This is standard female behavior, yell at you for something entirely unrelated to the reason why they're actually mad. And then stay mad at you for not deciphering their fucked up logic.
It's called common sense and not having fucking autism. It's obvious that she's mad because she's bitter that Red understands Andou better than she does, even though she feels entitled to be closer to him due to
>muh childhood friends
Sorry all of you guys but we have a winner in the pedophile bowl.
>still haven't watched the episode
Damn, I don't know how to feel.
>Nigger even teenagers can see the difference between friends and love
Apparently these teenagers can't tell the difference between "putting up with it" and "being literally immune to stress and unhappiness", I wouldn't expect to much out of them.
Wasn't it "quoting" instead of "name dropping"?
While I agree, she's being unreasonable. He can't express himself that well, he only reacts to how people feel about him, and the only way he can act true to himself is when he lets his passion for fiction take over. By creating characters for him to be, he is slowly learning who he is not, and therefore finding who he actually is.
>People think this is over
They're probably going for an anime original ending so we'll never see the beach episode.
I wish more people would realize this.
Don't hate on the guy for being himself, he has no romantic feelings for her and gets along better with Red. In her head she thinks he belongs to her but she's too much of a pussy to actually confess because she knows she'd get shot the fuck down. So she's frustrated as hell and takes it out on his chuuni behavior. The fact she cares enough to remember all the mythology and whatnot proves she actually doesn't mind it all that much, it's only upsetting her because he's bonding over it with another girl.
She's a 3DPD shit.
I thought he was chanting calculations. Now that I watch it again, he's really just fucking laughing, isn't he?
if they actually studied it, they wouldn't feel assed to make a point on it.
you know who does go out of their way to point out some obscure fact?
autists and hipsters. and I don't see Ando wearing any fedoras.
I don't know, really just sounds like she's had a lot of things she's been wanting to say for a really long time. I mean she's been putting up with his bullshit for a long time, this is what happens when you try to hold your issues in, they just all end up coming out at the same time.
Look anywhere on the internet and the first thing you'll see is people in squealing throngs shouting over one another to be the first one to say "feels" or the newest and ever-so-creative varient of "butthurt" or to reference the hippest new memetic catchphrase in a way that would make the comments section of youtube proud.
Even on /a/ you see people throw around words they have absolutely no understanding of as though it's a shorthand for humor or a secret code that lets you express yourself in the simplest, most basic and most universal terms possible. And, the further you go from /a/ the worse it gets.
"Speak to me in your own words" is something I could say to this entire fucking generation. And most of you would have a damn hard time of it.
Hatoko isn't shit, she's just a complete idiot and utterly a traumatized jealous girl who really doesn't want to be alone.
Andou isn't an autist, doesn't have mental condition and isn't egotistic. He just doesn't know who he is and thinks that makes him able to be whoever he wants.
Well say what you want but Andou was being a rude ass motherfucker and totally deserved to be Blown.The.Fuck.Out like he did even if she did it partially out of jealousy.
If you have a girl cooking you a meal you do not
2)blow her off repeatedly while she tries to make conversation.
Andou spends quality time with everyone in the literature club. Both Red and Hatako get their own festival chapters while Sayumi gets a beach scene with the loli having her own pool scene with Cookie. All of them have some romantic overtones with Red and Hatako coming out on top in terms of flag power.
Why is everyone taking Andou's side? Why does Hatoko have to take an interest in Andou's likes and not the other way around? How hard could it be for Andou to take an interest in Hatoko's likes?
There's nothing wrong with that, he even offered to help and she told him to just "rest and wait".
>2)blow her off repeatedly while she tries to make conversation.
He's not blowing her off, he doesn't want to lie to her and he promised someone else not to tell the truth, the only reason she can't respect his privacy is out of jealously anyway.
>Why is everyone taking Andou's side?
>How hard could it be for Andou to take an interest in Hatoko's likes?
But Hatoko's likes are only Andou. He already likes himself.
I guess it's really pointless to argue about whose side right now. This is /a/ after all
>He's not blowing her off, he doesn't want to lie to her and he promised someone else not to tell the truth, the only reason she can't respect his privacy is out of jealously anyway.
Nigger, then you change the fucking topic and you stop blowing her off at the very least he was practically telling her to shut up repeatedly.
Because Hatoko is being a jealous bitch and screaming at him and insulting his hobby because he won't give her the D.
That's all there is to it. Is he ignoring her a bit, yeah, but that's no reason to flip the fuck out on someone you've been friends with for years.
Except "Speak to me in your own words" is a bullshit hypocritical phase. Take your own advice and don't use a phrase that your teachers didn't throw into every essay prompt.
Here's the thing: "your own words" is a nonsensical concept because a language is by definition a shared understanding of the meanings of sounds that form words and words that form ideas and ideas that form more complex ideas. These words and their meanings and how they relate to other words and their meanings are inherently taught to you by your parents and your peers and you knowledge and thus the language itself evolves as it is used and changed.
Long story short if you can say anything and be understood at all it is because of a shared understanding of what those things mean, and that shared understanding can only come about in the first place through widespread usage.
Memes are nothing more than the forefront of the evolution of language (whereas "non-meme" language are just memes that are so established to be taken for granted): you say people use them not understanding their meaning, but the reality of the situation is that people use them as they are as of yet unestablished in the language and thus shape and mold their meaning: it is not them who fail to understand the original meaning of a phrase but you who has stagnated and not kept up with the natural evolution of language.
Blame is both ways. Andou was satisfied believing she was unbreakable. Hatoko continued to follow with a smile on her face even though she was confused and scared by it all. Final straw was the feeling of being replaced.
Like the blonde dude said, he thought they were a bad match. Hopefully with this out in the open they can start anew.
I hope she wins Andou-bowl.
I would go ballistic on a close friend whom I've held close for so many years that asked me to come cook dinner at his house after school then blew me off to go play make believe with someone else. Treated me like a tool when he finally got back, texting the same person he blew me off for and giving me bullshit responses while denying any sort of conversation, while watching me cook the meal he had me come over to cook in his own house.
Chuuni means retardation. Every fucking chuuni is a retard who cant deal with the real world and try to run like a bitch.
I hope all chuunis rampage to being crack dealers and dying from aids and shit.
>Pinkfags being buttdevastated and taking it out on awesome MC and chuuni itself
Look at how they turn around and start shitposting all of a sudden because their girl went retarded bitch because she doesn't understand.
That would just be condescending and in my opinion even worse than lying. She would snap at him if he tried to change the subject the way she was acting.
>he was practically telling her to shut up repeatedly.
No, he was saying "it's not important" "various things" and dodging the subject. To be honest, nothing he could do would make her not snap. The only thing was to betray his promise and tell her what it was, the other options "changing the subject" "dodging the question" and "lying" would in the end lead to her snapping.
Sounds like he was trying to sound smart as she called him out on as "just because you looked it up on the internet." I doubt he knows or is interested in any of those things beyond their complicated names.
While I think the divide is a lot more even then your post suggests, I assume that the reason many /a/nons are on Andou's side is because we've heard this lecture before, either from our parents, siblings, or significant others and it makes one feel uncomfortable being confronted by this issue in the very media that many of us escape into.
It goes both ways in this case. Andou doesn't feel like he deserves being with Hatako. She's a shinning star in his eyes. As for Hatako, she also looks up to Andou in a big way. Ever since he saved her from the bullies at school, Hatako tried her best to share his hobby since she knows that it would make Andou really happy. It doesn't help that their relationship is already strained due to events that happened in the past to both Hatako and Andou.
Or he was a chuuni himself. No one hates chuunis as much as former chuunis. It's like this but worse.
Like I didn't even give a shit about her as a character and I still don't now, but that was some powerful shit there. Hearing it on surround sound put me in some kind of trance or some shit like I was being yelled to by one of my parents when I did something wrong even though I really didn't know what I did. Its that feeling when time seems to slow down and the moment feels like it is going on forever and you get cold sweat and all that. Fuck.
It isn't the dialogue itself that got the effect in, though it had to be relevant, but that fucking voice acting man. I don't remember the last time a snap like this felt so fucking real and lasted so damn long.
It's not about that you nigger. Hatoko doesn't have to do shit but she loves him for reasons. It won't work out in the end because she can't understand him, she's at her wit's end and she'll either have to keep her love and roll with it or drop it.
She'll probably stay friends with him or still love him but she'll most likely never win the Andou bowl without pulling off some shenanigans.
anon, I think we're starting to derail into semantics. The way I interpreted that anons post, it sounded more like he was talking about those who only use words like "feels" and "forced" without backing up their claims, as if the use of those buzzwords makes their argument self-evident. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with using "meme" language, but it is a problem if that's literally all you post.
Sounds like you didn't have a childhood.
Tough luck faggot, you got the short straw in the world, at least don't let it shape who you are, turning into a pussy because you had no one love you is so disgusting.
How do you feel if in front of you appears some retarded guy who cry and talk shit because he is a chuuni who cant event live the real world, and only wants to run away in his own retarded chuuni thoughts.
I only wants to beat him to death.
Why are you idiots talking about chuunifags and normalfags?
Pretend that Andou is super into sports and that Red and him are bonding over soccer or some shit and that Hatoko isn't as into sports as they are.
Her rant would go exactly the same way. The reason she's pissed has nothing to do with the chuuni, it's all about her being jealous and fed up with him prioritizing his hobby over her.
You are the problem. Instead of actually learning any of that in depth and being able to derive meaning from those "interesting" terms, you just want to know ABOUT the words.
Bullshit. She freaking snapped at him because she jealous. People may argue it's because she wanted him to include her, but that ship sailed a long time ago, so it's not Andou's fault she never tried to learn and put forth effort to be interested in his interests. Andou always recommended her stuff, but she never could come to like it. He stopped trying to explain things she wouldn't understand, yet she kept pestering and bugging him out of pure jealousy towards his relationship with Tomoyo.
Forgot the image.
What you said was right but this is not what she meant, she just asked him to give her the truth or information without anything "chuuni" getting in the way. From the few I have seen the protag is very sensible but most people believe he is useless thanks to his behavior.
Our language is a very large and complex one with more words, phrases and meanings than any one person who speaks it can keep track of.
There's value it taking time to explore and use that language properly instead of simply giving no thought whatsoever to articulate yourself and falling back on the same popular catchphrases that your friends are using. Groupthink has a negative impact on the integrity of language as a form of communication and artistic expression, and rendering words effectively meaningless by treating them as fads to exploit contributes nothing to language or our shared understanding of it.
It does nothing but harm your expression when you water it down by choosing to articulate complex and specific thoughts and feelings into whatever popular catchphrases are trending on twitter or tumblr or the school playground. In attempting to shoehorn every thought, feeling and action into a few crowd-pleasing phrases or 'official' sounding smart words does only a disservice, both to whatever it is you're attempting to express and to the vast lexicon you're pushing into obscurity just so you can use the new and exciting word for the sake of having people hear you use the new and exciting word, regardless of whether or not it bears any meaning whatsoever.
But no, go ahead, tell me this is about intellectual sycophantism or tu quoque. I'll wait.
It's an important part in the nerd life cycle. It helps them become the next generations movers and shakers.
Yep. The groups for that volume is as follows:
Hatako gets a date scene at the festival.
Red also gets her own date scene at the festival.
Sayumi gets her own beach scene with her family and Andou.
Chifuyu and Cookie get a pool scene with Andou.
Each of these scenes become cute in their own way.
Andou enjoys sharing his interests with another friend who has something in common with him. Andou and Hatoko have nothing in common, she's lucky to just be a childhood friend.
Most shows would improve drastically if they had characters actually having human emotions.
I understand that anime is escapism at it's finest, but human characters need to actually act human sometimes.
I think you're right about how it's not about the chuuni shit but I really don't think the jealousy thing is the major issue. Their strained relationship is the meat of it, him getting involved with Tomoyo is what tips the barrel though.
But doing something you don't enjoy is never fun, even if it means doing it for someone she loves. If Andou was truly her friend he would try to take an intrests in her enjoyments as well, but instead he expects her to follow after him.
Non /a/utist here, I came because bits of debris about this crashed through the ceiling of a /vg/ general I browse. Would that be due to some massive shitstorm earlier today being unable to be contained by one mere board, or just a buncha weebs forgetting where they were? I hope it wasn't the latter, because I love me some shitstorms, especially with some high-octane shit like that.
The two of them have a lot in common. It can be said that their relationship is the strongest and most complex in the series. This whole fiasco only happened because Hatako's stress built up to a point where she couldn't take it anymore.
You're wrong, this is what's really at fault.
>Jibun no kotoba de datteyo
Jesus christ. I'm not even sure if that's how you write that properly or not, but the delivery of that fucking line got to me.
That voice acting was incredible.
You only like him because cute girls like him and it tricks your brain. Take away the cute girls and he is 123% unlikable. Although he seems more likable in the anime then in the LN or manga adaption. I blame TRIGGER, they are really polishing this turd.
>but instead he expects her to follow after him.
I wouldn't say that. It's more like he expects and accepts that they'll just never be able to connect over shared interests. Which is fine because that isn't a requirement for being friends, especially if you're already tied together by shared experiences.
I'm just going to say to whoever tells people to "grow up" in an anonymous image board for losers is a goddamn hypocrite who does not belong here.
Pick a side, faggot.
Just laugh at the shitstorm happening.
>she's a stupid jealous bitch
Fuck off. It's fine to hate normalfags but she's still 2D and has feelings you faggot.
I think she actually meant he uses english and whatever buzzwords.
Nah. She can't get into fantasy.
Surely she is doing that because of jealousy, but she went full bananas because she knows he and Tomoyo share a connection that she can't get into. And she tried hard.
It's not that he's an otaku of chuuni bullshit, like he was into sports. It's not she doesn't like that: she just can't understand.
He only expected what her reactions showed.
It was an unhealthy relationship where he did not and could not have known better. He is not an adult and it shouldn't be expected of him to have a nuanced sense of the expectations of relationships.
The problem is that, even with her smack down on his hobbies and all, Hatoko couldn't say the thing she wanted to say the most: "Please don't pay attention to other girls"
She doesn't give no fucks about Andou's chuuni. She doesn't like it, and both her and Andou know it. She's just jealous and scared that other girl has stepped into the ring. Specially, other girl that can understand his love for chuuni shit.
>Stop being what I don't like you to be
I can't help but feel, considering the content of the rant, that it only came across to us as evocative as it was because of the language barrier.
Hearing her talk about madness and chaos and stupid kana readings in that emotional voice must've been hilarious for native speakers.
The two of them have been together since they were small. The anime probably didn't portray this right but whenever Andou and Hatako are together and are alone, a warm atmosphere surrounds them. The two of them become a lot happier and they talk a lot while trading stories. Andou describes it as being a safe zone where he can relax and be happy. There is also the fact that the both of them overcame a lot of hardships that only tied the two of them even closer together.
I'm not implying that, I'm just saying we don't have to shame perfectly good girls for portraying what they're supposed to.
This is how you support your husbando.
Girls often can't understand sports at all.
Just replace her talking about him quoting Nietzsche and everything being in English with him quoting John Madden and everything being in Sabermetrics.
Point is, the chuuni part has fuck all to do with her being mad. She's not mad at him for being chuuni, she's mad at him for having a hobby that she can't get into and for him bonding with another girl over it instead of her.
Holy shit, that fucking earporn. I wonder how many retakes did Saori Hayami do here, it's so crisp and realistic.
It's called being in love anon.
And yes, men do it as well.
I see your point of view, but I stand by mine.
Sports isn't hard to grasp. You might not like it, but that's different.
Not really. Native speaker here, it was rather uncomfortable to tell the truth. Uncomfortable because 1) she genuinely sounded hurt, 2) what she was saying was more or less reasonable, and 3) combined with the visuals it was altogether a heartrending scene. And I don't even like Hatoko much.
I don't think Hatoko cared about what he was saying as long as she was with him. Some kind of supporting relationship based not on understanding but support? I sound like a fag. Anyways this is not about chuuni as the previous anon have said its about chuuni making a connection with another girl. So yeah jealousy.
hatakos hair looks so comfy
>We aren't /cgl/, that automatically means we're not chunni and have a set of standards. Or least know how to hide powerlevels in 'polite' society.
>this is what your typical /a/utist in denial actually believes.
HAHAHAHAHA, you're worse than the chuunis you despise.
Both Andou and Tomoyo will still be chuunis after they graduate. Tomoyo will become a LN author who craft stories with her chuuni self and Andou will become an anime director with a heart of a chuuni.
>/a/nons don't want anime to be understood by outsiders
>but we also want to be understood by someone
Sasuga endless paradox
/a/ is chuuni at it's heart, though it is a different kind of chuuni
Andou did nothing wrong.
>/a/nons don't want anime to be understood by outsiders
Speak for your fucking self, I'd love if anime were more mainstream. Instead I have to talk to other people about sports or "getting bitches".
Wow, they even toned down the WAKANNAI in the anime.
This bitch be cray
>can't come up with an argument beside '/a/utist'
I've already won.
They're under the delusion that they're super cool anime elitists who can hide their powerlevel and act "normal" in public. Takes a lot of inner chuuni to come up and believe that.
>wiser than the way he looks
Everything about him is meant to show that he's clearly not. He's just some chuuni retard who loves to talk about things he read about on the internet.
That was my point.
I don't really give a fuck about talking about anime in my social circles: I'd be content having some real friends to talk about it IRL, but certainly don't feel the need to talk about with everyone.
Sure, whatever keeps your self inflated ego afloat. Just don't be surprised when someone actually calls you out on your stealth faggotry especially when 4chan culture is seeping into the mainstream by the day.
>faggot that doesn't understand you
>faggot that makes a mockery of everything you like and summons DARKNESS and the edge
I'd side with the normalfag long enough to take down chunnis.
What else do you have then? Trying to fake you're into normie stuff and blending into their crowd sounds like what Hatoko did. Granted, I'm not endorsing wearing a Naruto headband and doing a jutsu, but trying too hard to be someone you're not is just as bad.
I think its just an Andouroid that the loli made using her power, she keeps it in her temporal fortress mansion in a pocket dimension where she actually has dozens of these Andouroids that she sexes all the time.
Andou is not really a pedo, that scene is from a play, and Cookie will win the Chifuyu anyway.
That is Giygas-level repetition.
I never said that, I literally said that you just have to wear normal clothes to blend in. I didn't even say it was good or bad to do it.
You won't lose your identity for it, if you do, you didn't even have one to begin with.
She unfortunately doesn't have the face for it. She belongs to us forever and it's best that way.
>crying from that
I was taken aback but didn't really feel sad. Just surprised. I knew a confrontation was happening but not on that scale.
>doesn't have the face for it
I know she isn't cute or even beautiful but she looks cool in that pic.
What is "normal" to begin with anyways? Something that aligns the dominant Anglo-Saxon American culture? This drive to "normalcy" has really opened up more wounds to discrimination than healed it. I just don't understand.
Watching this show made me realize TRIGGER really has no talent for matching the animation to the voice acting. Even in scenes that are well animated, it still seems like poor lip syncing at best.
That's why I have it saved. She doesn't have many glamorous pictures, mostly modest. Personally I think her ears are huge and her teeth isn't well-kept but that doesn't change my love for her.
The idea of normalcy is to establish a baseline standard ethic to which you can hold every individual accountable for, measure individual success and judge people against.
By very nature it's metric to discriminate by, that's the point. Because most people think that things they don't like are intrinsically tied to not doing things they like, and thus they can weed out the people likely to tend towards bad things by seeing which ones don't naturally gravitate towards good things.
Really? It looked fine to me.
>TRIGGER has no talent to match animation to voice
Where are you getting this from anyway? KLK for all its flaws didn't fuck up there. LWA was also fine. Inferno Cop was Inferno Cop. Not sure if troll.
The most lewd anon, the most lewd.
Eh, if you oon't like SOL then yep, its nothing that great.
Just because it's normal doesn't mean she's beautiful or anything. She's kinda pretty, definitely cute, but she's far from my ideal aesthetically. Call me shallow or whatever, but I have standards. This is this, and that is that though, she's stupid talented no matter what she looks like.
So anyone who doesn't fit the mold of what you posted is open season for bullying and discrimination?
Humanity really has a long way to go to rise above acting like institutionalized tribes.
It looks like we're going that route.
Hatoko will reflect on it and through olympic-class mental gymnastics, decide that she was wrong in a not-so-subtle attempt by the writer to inject their personal philosophy of interpersonal relationships into what is otherwise a cut-and-dry conflict.
MC will learn nothing, MC will change nothing and when it comes right down to it, MC won't even really understand why he's apologizing. He'll apologize because he feels bad that a friend is upset and that makes him upset, and like a puppy he won't leave it alone until everything is alright again, even if he doesn't understand it.
We'll probably get a moment where he;s fighting one of the new chuuni group and getting trounced repeatedly, but refusing to give up despite having no real power or hope of victory. Hatoko will see this and decide to forgive him and fall in love with him even more because it's 'shows that he cares' even though he clearly doesn't care enough to sit down and figure out what upset her in the first place.
>relationships in general
Once you've watched enough anime, you learn to predict how things are going to go with a fair amount of accuracy.
I'm just hoping for some neat looking fights if that's where we're heading now.
I have to admit Hayami's voice acting and singing is god amongst gods tier, she wouldn't be in this business if she actually had the looks...
Here is a part of her singing live:
>what upset her in the first place
Being a woman? She fucking snapped dude. You could literally trace her anger to any point in their relationship since they met, she just fucking dished it out. Have you never snapped before?
See? This is what I'm talking about of /a/nons. Jaded, power level wanking critics pointing out predictions thinking they sound awesome and "based" when they just come off as complete asshats online.
This is a thread about discussing an anime, anon. Are you mad that we're speculating where it might go, especially based on past experience with other anime in this genre? Do you want us to just sit around talking about which inou you'd battle? Nobody is trying to gain some reputation in an anonymous imageboard. There's no point in trying to make yourself look good. If you can't handle discussion, get out of the thread.
I like both shows but I'm not sure where you're going with this.
I'd play rival route.
I want to argue against you right now. She voices iDOLM@STER CINDERLLA GIRLS, Kaede Takagaki. She has concerts and shit lined up. Also next season MC because of her character. So she can sing and act, and will be on stage.
>Why don't you fucking faggots understand that I'm a magical girl!?
I can't imagine Yurika being angry though, probably not suited. Maybe Ghost would rant but I really think the show was great on its own.
I would never allow her to be get that far. That guy was fucking blind. Like in this scene, he barely even gave attention to answering her, that's why he said that.
>Pretend to be friends with someone
>Person is interested in you and wants to try to start a conversation
>At nearly every single turn the Person wants to make a conversation or try to learn more about your retarded hobbies tell said person he wouldn't understand.
The fact alone that Hatoko remembered all the retarded shit that Andou was talking about should have woken him up a bit.
It's not a discussion. You're just showing off like a self-inflated nerd that you know how things are going to end up as if no one already did.
Sorry I don't subscribe to this type of faggotry because it's just annoying and sad even for /a/ standards.
Hatoko's rant reminds me of Sakura's just because 1, it's their fault for bottling those negative emotions up for several years and 2.They don't understand the objects of their affections.
Is this how divorce happens?
I didn't know the backstory but holy shit, what an asshole.
Nobody is showing off on an anonymous imageboard you retard. There are no upboats. There are no nametags.
Do you want people to just not post at all? I'm sure we're all smart enough to know what happened and how we feel about it. Why should we think ourselves so important that random other anons need to know that?
Take a step back and think about what you're complaining about.
Maybe, but in this case she hoped that things get better over time, but no, the guy is a forever child. I think I should be glad that she loses and can find someone who can treasure her.
Like I would every second with her.
>Impressive scene in anime
>90% of "discussion" about it on /a/ is one of the following
>"bitches and whores, amirite?"
>"fuck off chuunishits" "no, fuck off normalfags"
Good God, you people really are retarded.
I don't believe this. The criticisms Hatoko made of Chuunibyou were too rational and well-thought-out for me to believe that this will end in something so stupid.
Bleeding DOES hurt. Being crazy IS bad. It IS evil because it's wrong. Using unnecessarily complicated verbiage IS stupid. Talking about all sorts of mythology, science, and philosophy without knowing what you're talking about DOES make you a pretentious asshat.
The person who wrote all that knew what they were doing, because they completely tore Chuunibyou to shreds.
I don't have problems with chuuni, but Hatoko was completely right this episode.
Andou was being rude as fuck and not a good friend to her.
>Invite woman just to cook for you
>Ignore her and flirt with another girl through the internet
Not to mention he pretty much ignores her feelings all the fucking time, she had to break at some point.
It just occurred to me that the author was probably basing most of this scene and the whole conflict on the domestic fights his parents would've been having when their family fell apart, back when he was a kid. Just replace chuuni with cheating.
Maybe that's why we'll get a magical wish-fulfillment "everything goes back to the status quo' ending. Maybe that's just the kind of happy ending the author really needs this story to have.
>love someone so much you put up with all their chuuni shit, despite not understanding any of it
>your childhood friend gives up on trying to help you understand him, but you stay by his side anyway because being with him is enough
>new girl suddenly seems to have all his attention and interacts with all his chuuni shit seamlessly
Who fucking wouldn't have a melt down? Hatoko best girl for putting up with Andou's shit.
I wouldn't let your expectations rise too far. This is Japanese anime and light novel. It would be good if they resolve this well, but it wouldn't surprise anyone if they screwed it up, making Hatoko's outburst worthless, ironically making her madness against pretentiousness pretentious in itself.
The first half of the first thread was alright.
>The person who wrote all that knew what they were doing, because they completely tore Chuunibyou to shreds.
Who know, either the author got over it or he knows someone who had a severe case of it.
>Is having a good memory a rare feat?
Remembering most stuff you did is something entirely different than remembering all the stuff someone else did.
I don't even remember what a friend told me 2 weeks ago.
It's easy to tell that you've never been in a serious committed relationship with a 3DPD because this kind of shit happens from time to time. Healthy couples fight over shit. If you really want to end a relationship, agree with the chick all day every day.
Andou was helping Tomoyo with her chuuni story which is secret from the rest of the group. So it makes sense not telling Hatoko. But I agree, he was rude and took Hatoko for granted.
I don't think either of those are really necessary.
Anybody can look at that subculture from the outside-in and see all the ways in which it's fucking stupid. He articulated it really well, but he writes for a fucking living, so that's no surprise.
You sound like a master of Light Novels and anime. Please tell me how you've come to that conclusion based on you just watching flavor of the season shows without reading the source material.
Right for breaking down sure (even though she signed up for the punishment herself), but she's not right. What she said was completely subjective, there are people who like that shit and do so religiously, there is nothing to say what's right or wrong about it.
Andou was being rude and he deserved getting his ass handed to him but that doesn't have anything to do with liking or not liking the shit that Hatoko lists.
You act like youve never had a
To be fair, Andou's only one person, and Red showed signs of wavering in something she seemed to be really into. He's conscious of the need to help her out. Hatoko has always seemed to be perfect and carefree in his eyes and he made it clear that he couldn't comprehend her having any issues, so he wasn't looking out for the signs that she was just bottling it all up.
It doesn't make him any less of a dick, but it's something to consider. Doubtless, if she hadn't blown up that day, she'd blow up soon enough.
god damn, every-time i hear his VA scream i have to make sure it's the same VA that does accelerator.
And they are teens. Shit I remember doing some inconsiderate dickish shit that caused me to be cried at and cussed at and I meant no harm whatsoever. Not to mention he is chuunitstic.
>I don't remember those!
>tfw mom never tipped my fedora for me
>What she said was completely subjective, there are people who like that shit and do so religiously, there is nothing to say what's right or wrong about it.
Her point was that none of what he is talking about makes sense to her. Everything he says is good sounds bad to her, and she wants him to talk to her in a way that makes sense. Hatoko was not saying that what Andou likes is wrong, she says the way he is doing it feels wrong to her. She can't even understand the things he talks about, so there's not even a platform for her to form her own opinion of what she actually thinks of chuuni other than "this is the thing that keeps me from getting closer to Andou".
It would surprise me if they screwed this up.
It is more likely that this story was written by a hundred monkeys at a hundred typewriters than it is that the author who wrote that rant produced it without having the writing ability necessary to wrap this up in a non-retarded manner.
Of course, the studio could fuck it up because there aren't enough episodes left, but we'll see.
>Who know, either the author got over it or he knows someone who had a severe case of it.
Or they're a semi-rational adult. A lot of the chuuni stuff Andou goes on about actually doesn't make sense unless you know beforehand that "that's what chuunibyous talk about." Hatoko's reaction to it is actually completely reasonable and is the way most people would react to fantasy writing that's deliberately illogical and obtuse.
I'm a little disappointed in all the people who have gone on about how she's just a jealous bitch. There's obviously a lot more to it than jealousy because she doesn't mention or even hint at Tomoyo even once in her entire outburst. To be honest I'm not sure I would have thought of it as that at all if I wasn't familiar with the 'I'm jealous' trope from watching other anime and reading other stories.
It felt to me more like that she wanted him to stop being a retard because he found the name Durandal cool and is now using it for the next 5 months every day without knowing where it's from.
Hatoko is /a/ and Andou is your deviantart faggot.
Minus that /a/ likes deviantart tier chuuni
She talks about what is cool, respectable, etc. That's the main part of what I was talking about seeming as it was >80% of her entire speech.
I don't think that Andou should change for her though. He should be more sensitive to her presence, not be a standoffish dick when she's cooking for him, and never give up on her, but he doesn't need to change for her. He's not compelled to.
He shouldn't have seen her as a lost cause, that was part of why Hatoko tipped over was because he didn't want to bother explaining shit to her that he knows she's not interested in.
>There's obviously a lot more to it than jealousy because she doesn't mention or even hint at Tomoyo even once in her entire outburst.
>I want to be your friend Andou but please don't talk about your hobbies or interests near me. Only talk about what I like.
Christ. No wonder she's so desperate to have Andou to herself. Nobody else would put up with this cunt.
That was harsh.
>Call me a faggot but she's even better than Sawashiro.
Them's be some fightin' words.
Is it strange that her rant reminded me of the shit said in Medaka Box? She was basically ripping apart chunnis without meaning to that it would be like Nisio taking a shit on the ideals of shonen jump heroes
What sentiment is this expression attempting to display?
No. You're oversimplifying this.
She got really mad not just because he wouldn't explain, but because he never does. It must have hit too close to home, otherwise you'd have actually processed what happened.
Either that or you're retarded.
>Basically share almost your entire life together
>MC disregarding childhood friend because more and more despite trying to understand what the flying fuck he's talking about
/a/ confirmed for never having had any friends.
>this other show said something funny about writing therefore every piece of art ever follows that exact rule to the letter because I want it to be so in my retarded brain
What the fuck are you talking about? How is what you said any different from what I said? Why are you assuming I'm talking about just that one case? Why are you calling me retarded?
I don't understand.
That's what I was trying to say, but that anon was either yanking my chain or honestly too stupid to grasp that.
And that's the reason I liked that scene so much. From it I got that:
- Hatoko is jealous of Andou's relationships with the other girls and/or she feels left out of the group, because she doesn't get the things they like
- Hatoko is pissed off because Andou repeatedly dismisses her as unable to understand things
- Hatoko thinks (correctly) that a lot of the crap Andou is interested in makes no real sense
- Hatoko is upset because she genuinely wants to understand Andou so she can have fun doing stupid shit with him, but she just CAN'T understand.
Honestly I'd have been mad if it had been no more than "waaah Ju-kun likes other girls more than me" because I hate characters like that. But you have to be literally autistic not to see that there's so much more going on.
Not to mention the scene simultaneously beat the everloving crap out of chuunibyou behavior and out of what I understand to be certain light novel cliches.
Is this what it's like being in /sci/?