I have waited a long time for this.

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>>116453347

>>116453347
gah I checked my local bookstores they still haven't got their copies

Just sucks that it's going to take a full year for them to release it all.

>>116453511
>what is the internet

>not releasing individual volumes
>releasing these weird 2-in-1 volumes only

I just wish I could buy the individual volumes, I like that so much more

>>116453347
Thanks you for supporting the Artist.

>>116453727
No one releases single volumes because they're 'risky' and people are less likely to buy the full set.

>Sengoku Youko is now longer than Biscuit Hammer

It's been years since I finished reading this manga, and I'm still trying to figure out what the fuck a biscuit hammer is.

Snake still best grill.

>>116453802
But that's not even close to being true. Everyone releases single volumes

>>116453872
A song by the Pillows

>>116453727
I'm fine with double volumes. I just wish they had gone with the larger 12cm size books.

Oh fuck, I've been waiting for this and completely forgot about it until now.

>>116453511
>local bookstore

Have you still not converted to our true lord and saviour, Amazon-sama?

>>116453840
>Translations where

>>116453347
Haven't we all...
Only a few more months until Volume 3-4!

>>116453347
Who is the publisher?

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>>116453347
Got mine today, didn't expect it to be this satisfyingly humongous.

>>116454241
seven seas entertainment (gomanga.com)

>>116453907
Maybe not no one.
>Everyone releases single volumes
Definitely not. For everything that isn't your everyday shounenshit, there's lots of omnibus volumes.

>>116454241
seven seas

>>116454223
Madokami or check scanlators' websites.

Wow...I must really be out of the loop. When the heck did this ever get licensed?

>>116454285
>>116454301
Well shit.

There goes any chance of me seeing it in my usual bookstores.

Time to order on the internet I guess.

>only one review
C'mon guys. More 5 star reviews, more people will buy it, more money to a great mangaka.

>>116454300
I really can't think of anything other than Azumanga that is only available in omnibus.

>>116454420
You know that not generally how foreign licenses work.

>>116454300
Even lots of shounenshit have been released in omnibus. I think Rurouni Kenshin was one of the first ones.

>>116454492
Damnit, let me believe. I don't think the mangaka would get 0 money from the sales though, right?

Why would anyone buy physical releases in this day and age

>>116454566
Importing japanese volumes probably gives them a larger share.

Why is /a/ so eager to support a mediocre unknown author? I could get if he was incredibly talented like murmata or hiramoto, but he's nothing special in terms of either writing or illustration. I always got people over rate his shit because of hipster cred.

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>>116453347
Fuck.
Maybe I should ask my local comic store guy if he can import it.
How's the translation?

>>116454567
1. They're fucking retard moralfags
2. They're fucking retsrds who think they're supporting the manuals
3. They enjoy collecting

Anyone intelligent is number 3 only

>>116454223
He's slow but he's one of the better scanlators, so I don't mind the wait.

>>116454659
>mediocre
Nope.
>unknown
Nope.

>>116454566
Licenses for anime and manga are usually just lump sums paid to the original publisher. If the mangaka gets anything at all, it's up to them.

>>116454659
>unknown

?????

That's a really shitty edition, sucks to be American. Well, better this than nothing.

>>116454567
>>116454674
I-I just like flipping pages.

>>116454567
Mostly just collecting the series I really enjoyed.

>>116453872
It's a children's toy.

>>116454669
>>116454374
>>116453511
Why are people pretending the internet doesn't exist when they're on it right now?

>>116454728
>>116454692
He's not a common favorite like urasawa or tezuka.

>>116454659
Wow, anon, you sure are a master baiter.

>>116454798
Some of us like our local comic book store guy.

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>>116453888
Still a good thing she didn't win in the end though.

I've been waiting for an western release for this for a long time...

>>116454813
So anyone not as famous as Walt Disney is now unknown

The most overrated shounen of all time.

or is it underrated? I just see it praised highly only on /a/

>>116454798
I'm not risking having all my money stolen by hackers, just to buy mango.

>>116454919
>...

Stop being a faggot

>>116454674
3 here. I like filling my bookcase with nice art and interesting reads.

>>116454813
That's... not unknown. And Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer is... was.. required reading around here.

If you want unknown, how about Ryou Haruto?
>>116454939
It's seinen.

>>116454567
I buy my favorite manga and lend them to people to show off my impeccable taste.

>>116454969
Most posts ITT are by one guy asking people to buy buy buy.

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>>116454961

>>116455001
Ah, thats right. Theres lots of somewhat gruesome deaths if I recall now. It plays out very shounen-like though.

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>>116454961

>>116454973
I just put Kanu figurines on mine along with boring technical books/papers/manuals.

>>116455036
>it plays out very shounen-like though
No, no it doesn't.

>>116455036
Seinen and shounen are not genres. Yotsuba is shounen just like Bleach is shounen.

>>116453727
it's an old series readily available in english online. the best move they can do is release double volumes at a lower cost. clown

>>116455036
>using the term "shounen" as a genre rather than a demographic

>>116455077
Thats the vibe I got from it and the reason I ended up dropping it.

>>116455001
Which makes no sense. Its mediocre. Required reading or watching should be what most people on /a/ only know of because current anime reference it. I guarantee more people on /co/ have seen Lupin than /a/.

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>>116454659
>he's nothing special in terms of either writing or illustration
You're one of those people who goes into a series already knowing what're you're gonna think about it before even having read it, right?

>>116455109
I didn't say it didn't make sense cost wise, I said I didn't like it

>>116455146
You might want to rephrase that second sentence into english.

>>116455104
>>116455127
You're arguing semantics. When someone says shounen, you know what they mean by it. The most common cliches and tropes you see used in Shonen manga.

>>116454919
You mean english release, right? There's been western releases before, I've got the complete french edition.

>>116454567
Doesn't apply in this case, but I buy stuff when it's the only way to read it.

>>116455146
Can we just skip all this? I'm getting tired of literally every thread being ruined by shitty obvious trolls.

>>116455188
>When someone says shounen, you know what they mean by it.
Yeah, a manga published in a shounen magazine.

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>>116455036
>It plays out very shounen-like though
Did you even read it?

>>116455131
Well, I implore you to reconsider. First of all, the characters are all exceedingly well written and their interactions are interesting, which is what really sets it apart from shounen, which is only good for action. Secondly, the philosophy contained within the plot is genuinely interesting. Finally, the action sequences are pretty cool, and serve to break up the SOL which dominates the manga.

If you gave up *before* anima appeared, or *before* all the beast knights gather, give it another shot. You won't regret it, I think.
>>116455146
>It's mediocre
What is an opinion? It was required reading in the sense that everybody loved and talked about it, if you didn't know about it or hadn't read it, you were called a pleb and mocked. This may be before your time though.

>>116455151
Having already read it, my biggest criticisms since years ago was how under par the drawings were. I said the same about SnK and people told me it was a style despite the inconsistencies with things like arm length and hand size. Then SnK got popular and suddenly people agreed with me.

>>116455188
Just because a million people are wrong doesn't make it right. Shounen is a demographic.

Berserk and K-on are both seinen. Naruto and Azumango are both shounen.

>>116455188
People will generally jump down your throat for using the wrong term, so just stop using it. Just say it's a "shitty/mediocre/overrated/etc battle manga". Problem solved.

>>116455254
All those manga published in said magazine share lots of similar tropes and cliches.

>>116455266
I admittedly dropped it, can't even remember where to be honest. I suppose I'll revisit it though when this season is over.

>>116455281
I found that his art was very, very good at conveying emotion and action. While it wasn't pretty, it was good.

>>116453347
Goddamn that cover art is fucked. Look at her waist and her hips. Fucking perspective man.

>>116455368
All Japanese media share similar tropes and cliches.

>>116455275
I'm not him, but I felt it was kinda mediocre through the entire thing. I could just never really get into it I guess. Maybe /a/ overhyped me or something since I felt the same way about OMK.

>>116455281
I'm pretty open to atypical art styles, so I didn't realize there were people who thought the art in this was bad until a couple years ago. I guess there are people with that opinion though.
I for one like his artstyle.

>>116455350
Yes, there are clear exceptions to the norm, but everyone knows what someone is talking about when they use it in context with whatever anime is being discussed.

>>116455435
All media share similar tropes and cliches.

>>116455468
>anime
Shounen and seinen aren't even supposed to apply to anime. They're manga demographics.

>>116455446
Don't compare one of my favorite mango to a shitty doujinshi like OMK.

>>116455446
It's fine to have different opinions. I'm not saying Samidare is the greatest manga of all time, obbjectively. It just happens to be my favourite, and if someone gets the wrong idea about it (e.g. generic battle shounen), I feel impelled to convince them to give it a second, fair try. I want to share what I consider to by my favourite anime. If they give it a another fair go and consider it mediocre, that's fine.

>>116455468
You're just digging yourself deeper. Please stop talking.

>>116455368
Really? Care to explain which tropes Eyeshield 21 and Aria share?

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>>116455566
>Shitty doujinshi like OMK

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>>116455281
It has a clearly defined and distinct art-style, which is a lot more than you get in most series.
Mizukami's strong-point is switching tones when scenes calls for it anyways, not necessarily having every page be highly details.

>>116455530
It just means boy and young adult. I fail to see how it can't apply to anime as well as manga.

>>116455589
I already said there are exceptions, and besides, when one is using it in context to whatever is being discussed, it is going to be compared to the similar manga/anime within the demographic.

Of course nobody is going to compare darker than black to something like keion.

>>116455608
>not necessarily having every page be highly details.
Yes, this. One Punch Man and that arabian carpet manga both have wonderfully detailed art, but that's not the objective standard by which to judge art styles.

>>116455566
>superpower evil man's monster army vs people who shoot laser beams
>better than the very human drama and strangeness of OMK
OMK could be a movie you pleb.

>>116455451
Some people want every mango to look like Berserk or else it has bad art.

>>116455419
Fuck, no I can't unsee it.

>>116455735
Then why is nausicca considered to have good artwork? I think your strawman is on fire.

>>116455657
No, see you just can't accept that you're a fucking retard and just admit you're wrong. You are very specifically talking about Jump battle manga as if all shounen are completely identical. How many more times do you need to be shown you're wrong before you just accept it?

>>116455419
>Dat ass

>>116455657
>I fail to see how it can't apply to anime as well as manga.
Because people cannot use it correctly within that context. Whereas with a magazine that is blatantly one or the other, anime does not, especially one that is not an adaptation. All you get are arbitrary designations and arguments over whether or not it is or it isn't.

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>>116455671
>and that arabian carpet manga

i just wishe he would finish sengoku youko and spirit circle

>>116455779
>>116455419
Its his art style, go away trolls.

>>116455806
"Some people" was the keyword here anon.

hopefully biscuit hammer getting a physical release means spirit circle will too...

>>116455671
>>116455735
It's been a while since I read it, but I remember thinking the art was kind of soulless. I'm not sure I'd be able to tell what a random panel of LBH is from the art alone. I guess that's not really a reason to outright dislike it, but whatever.

>>116455806
>Then why is nausicca considered to have good artwork?
Considered by whom? I may not know a fancy buzzword like "strawman" to describe a logical fallacy but I'm sure your argument contains one.

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How many English volumes are released so far? Would it be cheaper for me to get the English versions or import the original volumes?

>>116455863
What do you mean finish? You want him to just rush the endings for no reason? Both of those have a shit ton more story to tell.

>>116455657
>I fail to see how it can't apply to anime as well as manga.
In context of manga it means the magazine it is serialised in. In context of anime it means fucking nothing because japanese tv does not have such concept, instead they have "timeslots".

>>116455891
>the art was kind of soulless.
Yeah, that's just a shitty empty opinion. Not trying to be rude here, but seriously? Soulless? What do you mean by that? It may be missing something, but soul ain't it. That doesn't even make sense considering how emotive the characters are.

>>116455890
Stop posting like that holy shit

>>116455921
1-2 just came out, anon

>>116455818
>You are very specifically talking about Jump battle manga as if all shounen are completely identical

I literally just pointed out the contrary though. When I said Samidare was shounen-like, of course I'm talking about shounen battle manga.
This should be common sense. I'm not talking about Lucky Star, which I acknowledge exists as a shounen.

>>116455904
Are you saying Naussica does not have great artwork? It won awards and is considered a classic. Wherever you're going with this, fuck off.

>>116455927
This. I'm eager for more Spirit Circle, but I can wait for it if the alternative is some shitty rushed ending.

>>116455921
Just this one. MRSP is $18.99 a pop, but amazon has it for about $15.

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>>116455864
>Its his art style
No it's not.

>>116455970
?

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>>116455864
No mate. One thing is having a style (which I agree, the author does have) but that doesn't make all his drawings exempt from mistakes.

Shit happens, it took a while for his style to come together, just like with most artists.

>>116455980
Again, just because everyone is wrong doesn't suddenly make it correct.

So the biscuit hammer will fall once more...

>>116455959
I explained what I meant immediately after that statement. I could look at a random panel from my top however many manga and immediately be able to tell what it is from the art alone. The art in LBH didn't really feel unique enough for me. The art just felt like generic manga art #803.

>>116453347
>Not Star of Samidare

>>116456038
What the fuck is wrong with you, stop posting like that

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>>116455987
>Wherever you're going with this
He's saying your statement didn't make any sense.
Don't be so defensive anon.

>>116456066
That really isn't a criticism man. You don't have to have some ultra unique art style for it to be good.

>>116456030
That just how you perceive it then. When a collective decides on how a word is used I think it makes it legitimate, you see.

>>116456086
he doesnt know... the epic new ... memes

>>116456150
Congrats on being collectively stupid then, you're still factually wrong.

>>116456066
I can immediately tell any of his manga from the art. Also, like the other anon said, it doesn't have to be unique to be good.

>>116456081
>Not Eotena Onslaught

>>116456066
So what you're saying is that you failed to get familiar with an art-style?

That's some pretty unfounded criticism.

>>116454492
Actually they do I know vertical gives the manga 10% per book the panel was pretty neat breakdown on manga licensing

>>116456066
What? I could pick any panel with a human character and instantly know it was Mizukami's art.

>>116456066
Mizukami's art is easily distinguishable. Especially his characters.

>>116456131
>Some people want every mango to look like Berserk or else it has bad art.
Considered by whom? I'm saying this statement didn't make any sense.

>>116456066
I don't know, I don't think Lucifer's art is generic or soulless. I can pick out the mangaka's style vs. other manga, and as some other anons have said he's able to adapt his art to convey emotions that he wants to present at certain panels.
Although I guess "conveying emotions" really depends on the reader. It did it for me.

>>116456231
To who?

>>116456150
Do you seriously believe that? You're a fucking retard.

>>116456252
Considered by "some" people.
Do you have trouble reading anon?

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SOON

>>116456234
>>116456235
Pretty much this. His characters are so distinctive it's crazy. I agree his scenery isnt as distinctive though.

Anime when?

>>116456231
Hm, $1-2/book seems pretty good. Do you know how that compares to other licensing companies/Japanese publishers?

>>116456293
Yes, I do. Do you think everyone that uses the word faggot on 4chan is using it as a homophobic slur?

>>116456231
It might have something to do with them being owned by Kodansha. Vertical is most definitely an outlier.

>>116456376
Wait, they're owned by Kodansha? I thought Kodansha USA was the US branch.

>>116456305
And Nausicca is considered well drawn by some people as well. So the strawman of either things are berserk or anything else by people's standards is clear.

>>116456343
No I think they're referring to a stick or a cigarette, which it can also mean.

And that has nothing to do with misusing a term.

>>116455671
>that arabian carpet manga
hue

>>116456311
What manga does he have there? I can't read moonrunes for ants.

>>116456480
>No I think they're referring to a stick or a cigarette

Then you might have reading comprehension problems, anon.

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>>116456337
Manga adaptations are just advertisements. The manga is done, so no use advertising nothing.

Unless the publication wants a Biscuit Hammer anime to advertise one of Mizukami's ongoing manga.

>>116456457
It's 51% I think they are majority owner

>>116456522
>Parasyte

>>116456479
Nausicaa is well drawn.

>>116456522
>What is gundam the origin

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>>116456547
>exceptions

There's also Level E, which fucking came outta nowhere.

>>116456337
never

>>116456479
Mate I think you're imagining some weird argument that's not actually going on.
Nobody is talking about Nausicca except you and >>116455904 is not a strawman.

>>116456501
It Samidare's Father's novel series.

>>116456517
>Not using cigarette as a slur
What are you, an homosexual?

>>116453347
So is this really that good? I have friends who always raved about it and told me to read it.

>>116456522
Spirit circle anime when?

>>116456625
Yeah that fucken weird I would be surprised it was some producers pet project

>>116456699
Yes, read it.

>>116456654
Thanks anon

>>116456639
>and >>116455904 is not a strawman.
Well shit, quoted the wrong post
meant >>116455735

>>116456699
Above average, overall fun ride but you need to be able to stand samidares personality

>>116456547
Which is advertising the live-action movie.

>>116456719
I want this, but at the same time, I feel it just works best as a manga. It uses the panel transitions really well and there's not that much action to animate.

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>>116455671
>that arabian carpet manga
Pffff.
Mother. Fucking. Patterns.

Zombie Gainax announces that they're doing an adaptation, but they've only got the money for one cour.

What's the best thing they could do?

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>>116456821
That explains it. I was wondering why the hell there'd be an anime of this now.

>>116456794
>you need to be able to stand samidares personality
What.

>>116456830
Yes, that's the one. I believe the author also draws sublime female butts.

>>116456873
Different anon, there's nothing wrong with disliking the personalities of characters.
I managed to enjoy the manga without liking the behaviour of the main characters.

>>116456794
If you wouldn't be Samidare's personal knight, you don't know shit about best girls.

>>116456830
The current arc seriously sucks

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>>116456845
A fucking comedy spin-off.

>>116456830
Shirley Madison is her best work.

A shame she only does like a chapter a year.

>>116457069
>it's identical to the first medaka cour
>animus is a siscon, there are no golems

>>116456959
Well yes, but how's that specific to to HnS?
I think being able to tolerate the main characters would be a prerequisite for any series really.

>>116456978
best girl had the best end

>>116453347
>Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer
not
>The Lucifer and Biscuit Hammer

They done fucked up.

>>116456991
Fuck you. Don't tell me that shit. Don't you fucking dare say that shit.

I don't even read it. Duralumin has been translating that shit instead of the greatest fucking arc in Spirit Circle to date. I had to live with seven months of nothing until I finally just said fuck it and got the CR scans.

Don't tell me that whatever he's working on is shit. I would feel so spit on right now. why.

>>116457251
A) grow up
B) he stopped on spirit circle because he's scared of CR, like all scanlators seem to be

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>>116457069
Starring the wacky adventure of Aloha Owl and his troubles dealing with university life and his cute turtle-waifu.

Don't say you wouldn't watch it /a/.

>>116453426
>No Ice

>>116457412
When was this?

>spending money of a mediocre series with meh art

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>>116457515
The final chapter?

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>>116457577

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>>116457577

>>116456845
Focuses on the friendship and romance between mantis and mouse.
Bookended by "I love you" and "I know"

>>116456827
Yeah I suspect an animu adaptation of Spirit Circle would reach the current chapter in about seven or eight episodes.

They always ruin the pacing.

>>116457597
I haven't seen any of this. Turns out it was from chapter 64.5, not available on Batoto.

>>116457718
>not available on Batoto
I just went to Batoto to pull those pages anon.

Is this the Seven Seas marketing thread?

>>116457853
Go away /v/.

>>116457853
Not that I have any intention of buying any, but this thread has actually made me aware that Seven Seas has licenced a whole lot of stuff I didn't expect. Even that horse pussy centaur manga.

>>116457932

/v/ has nothing to do with this, shill.

>>116457949
Never change /v/

>>116457853

Well, we've already confirmed that 7C shilled here before (got banned), so it's not that surprising.

>>116453347
How the hell are you supposed to comfortably read something that fucking huge?

>>116458167
How does it feel to have small hands?

>>116458285
>having yaoi hands

>>116458285
Pretty asian.

>>116458167
Bet you can't even grip a basketball manlet.

>>116458285
>>116458402
It's not about how long it is, it's about how thick it is and how heavy it must be. It's the size of a god damn textbook.

>>116458167
Not great. Honestly I'd rather reread it on my tablet. I'm a bit worried about bend the spine too.

the paperback will get ruined by reading something of that size

>>116458167
The same way you read any normal book that size?

>>116454798
Gotta help those brick and mortar stores.

>>116458516
It's just the size of two regular volumes stuck together?

Manga is pretty small, you know.

>>116453347
Thanks for reminding me OP. Just went ahead and bought it.

>>116456845
From vol 1 until the first ever assembly of the surviving knights. That, I think, was an awesome moment. Of course, it'll cover the Dog Knight arc

Dunno, series didn't really do much for me. Greatly enjoyed the first half and than just lost interest with the whole "okay we killed that one now it's going up a number and changing and we have to figure out how to kill the new one" stuff.

Not a bad series, just lost interest for me.

>>116456003
>Just this one. MRSP is $18.99 a pop, but amazon has it for about $15.
Jesus Christ, what the fuck. That's what translated manga goes for nowadays? You can get raws for 300-400 yen brand new, and even 50-100 yen if you go the used route (Extremely good condition, too)

>>116455419
>can't unsee
Damn it. It's all I'm gonna think about whenever I look at it now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTYRrn1Q6j8&

Reminder tht never.

>>116459063
This is about as good as we could hope for. Even back in the day, SJ volumes went for around 8 bucks.

Nice stuff like vertical releases cost $12.95 a volume right now.

>>116459344
Still pissed that it doesn't use Biscuit Hammer for the OP.

>>116459494
eh?

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I like Mizukami's art.

>>116458516
A-anon please.

>>116454158
Amazon is a shit company for their business practices that mercilessly bullies authors and smaller publishers.
And I say this about to start work there for a couple months or so.

>>116454849
Fuck that ending. 12 eyes was a shit. Princess should have had to deal with the fact she was dying and would be left behind like every other fucker ever.

>>116460282
Fuck, that's adorable. More?

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>>116458167
Motherfucker you don't even know huge. OP's book is average for a 2 volume manga.
And these don't compare to the old compendium of 20th century news I have laying around.
That book is a legitimate weapon by itself.

>>116456337
I hope this never gets one

>>116457196
Lucifer is a person stupid not an object

>>116453347
Why is this so revered?
Is it very famous and supposedly very good?

I am out of the loop.

>>116455266
That's a very shounen-like ending

>>116461252
I read the first few pages of the first book a while back. Given the size of those books is the series a good read?

>>116455608
>It has a clearly defined and distinct art-style, which is a lot more than you get in most series.
That's a fancy way of saying it looks like shit. You're worse than the Bleachfags who claim Kubo's laziness is called minimalism

>>116461643
It is absolutely the second best space opera series I've read (behind Dune) but it is a bit slow getting started. Maybe 225-300 pages before the action really gets going.
When you get to the first satanic rape scene and the portal to the Beyond is opened shit really starts to go down.
This really doesn't do it justice but:
>magical space zombies
>space Al Capone
>loli sex... IN SPACE
Really all I can complain about is the slow beginning (which you'll see is actually a good thing here), kinda crappy ending, and perhaps TOO much sex, especially in 0G. My boners were distracting at times.

>>116461563
Here's the main shit:
>accessible plot
>had reliable scanlation groups (this is the most important shit)
>fun to follow on /a/
>fun characters

From that it snowballed into some popularity like OMK. That doesn't say anything about how "good" the manga is; Popularity never does.

>>116461701
>MUH REALISM
Don't you have some brown and grey games to go play, loser?

>>116461563
>character development
>interesting usage of limited powers
>cute girls and cool dudes
>manly fucking tears You have to have a name for your special technique!

>>116461563
Imagine if you mixed FLCL with Saint Seiya

>>116461563
Imagine a Seinen Slice-of-life manga crossed with a Shonen Battle manga. The result is a very well-told coming of age story.

I'm betting on an anime adaptation sometime between the next two seasons and the next two years.

>Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer finally released in the West
>Yumekui Merry never

>someone calls it an overrated shonen
>everyone calls him out for it
>ensuing repetitive argument about shonen, seinen, demographics, genres
Every single biscuit hammer thread

>>116463527
Every single battle manga that isn't in a shonen magazine, rather

Trolls called Berserk a shonen all the time back in the day too