Threadly reminder: -That Misaka stalked and attacked pre-amnesia Touma constantly just because he can block her shitty powers. -Reminder that Misaka never thanked Touma properly after helping her save her sisters and her sorry suicidal ass -That Misaka forced Touma to date her while being obnoxious with her shitty hobby -That Misaka delayed an injured Touma from going to help the Amakusas because she wanted to confirm to herself her own retarded feelings -That Misaka forced Touma to bring her ass to Hawaii, giving him unnecessary burden -That Misaka, despite not being his girlfriend and haven't even confessed to him yet, bought rings for the both of them that makes sure that Touma won't cheat -That Misaka attacked a grievously injured Touma after seeing him with Cendrillon without asking questions because her shit logic believes that "he can take it". -That Misaka, without even asking questions, again, tried to drag Touma by his belt from a rooftop, nearly getting him killed. -That Misaka refused to translate Cendrillon's words to Touma because she got jelly, denying Touma a justified thanks from her -That Misaka shocked an already injured Touma, again, while he was in a midst of an existential crisis while talking about things she knows nothing about
>>116291655 At least she doesn't try to murder and bother Touma like certain others. And she can please and heal him in the house, battle and bed. No one else has such good range of skills and fulfills his preferences better.
Never. Touma will never be even remotely attracted by her. Their exchange is always pretty tired and repetitive, they have zero chemistry, Touma is obviously annoyed to see her pop up everywhere, and so am I.
Still after all this time, people tend to overlook the girl with most Touma-related development in the series. Despite being irrelevant and the butt of a cruel joke, while other girls have development that ties to other aspects and characters, she's the only one whose entire development is about her feelings for Touma. A big plus is that they were explored from her point of view. Especially in Daihaseisai. The other girls had scenes, but they were just from a 3rd person outside view. Himegami's Daihaseisai scenes were from her perspective and they actually showed her emotions in it
>>116292769 Touma doesn't find her as annoying as Mikoto or Lessar, though. He can actually enjoy her company and find her pleasant to be around. Plus she is one of the two girls that he would never want to leave his side. The chart is based on his opinions and preferences on the girls.
>>116292266 >10032 >Higher than Mikoto in attraction when Touma once almost was in danger of popping a boner when he got close enough to be able to smell her I'm calling BS. Index and Mikoto should be equal.
If Index is that high, there's no way Mikoto can't be higher. Touma finds Mikoto to be dependable and strong in that she can take care of herself. That there is respect. Birdway who Touma respects even more should switch places with Fukiyose. Better yet, have her switch with Misaki.
>>116293327 That was because of the closeness of the scene and the position they were in, not because he found one particular physical aspect of her atractive. He would react the same with any girl.
Index is above because he clearly got turned on by her white legs and had to restrain himself from fucking her brains out.
>If Index is that high, there's no way Mikoto can't be higher. See >>116293102
>Birdway who Touma respects even more should switch places with Fukiyose. Better yet, have her switch with Misaki. Respect does not equal to liking. He has praised her for her accomplishments and all, but she's not someone he would choose to hang out with compared to the girls above her. He's wary of her. She can be very violent and that's something Touma does not appreciate.
There should be a LN series where each volume is devoted to a different girl's ending and the final volume is a harem end.
>>116293445 Know what's silly? The worst of them all stopped shitposting long ago because they realized what an ass they were and started posting normally. Pig-kun here. Sorry for everything. I didn't even hate Mikoto. Should have said this long ago.
>>116293102 >Mikoto For approximately 1 minute in the Railgun manga folk dance, Touma surprisingly is not to trying to run away from her presence at fast as he can. The most significant Kamikoto development in nearly 7 years.
>>116293949 Touma wanted to dance with Saten. He didn't give a shit that Mikoto was apparently her friend, and was scared as shit and thought she was going to kill him when she appeared and pulled him off.
This is more proof sustaining her dead last position in the rank.
>>116294346 It's funny because you're calling me a troll because you can't argue against facts. I'm not hating or shitposting any character, you only see that because your mind is too distorted and biased and immediately assumes that being placed last in a ranking equals to hate and shitpost. Grow up.
>>116294009 Here's your proof. It's fucking embarrassing reading the old posts. Shitposting is pointless and just ruins threads for everyone. You just look autistic if you spam hate in every thread that you see.
>>116293805 >Is this the nickname you're going to use for anyone you don't agree with? Yes, it happened to me. I didn't know there was a shitposting war between some guy that hated Mikoto (or was that an Indexfag) and some Mikotofags and accused me of being one by being against their ship.
So I decided to roll with it. In the end I got bored and stayed away from any thread that was specifically about Mikoto or shipping. That is until I got bored even more, and since I was sick of Mikoto's omnipresence in the franchise and the fact that Misakafags are humungous easily butthurt faggots I created both the Beware of Misaka Mikoto copypasta and this shit:>>116290973 the latter one I created because I couldn't remember the other similar posts I made about Misakia. Realistically, it should also address the fact that Mikoto had asked for Touma to call her by name, which has happened, while she on the other hand continues to call him idiot. It is surprising how popular they turned out to be.
>>116293697 You're joking, right? By your logic, if he was in the same position with Lessar, then Touma should get turned on too. But we know damn well that isn't going to be the case. The girl in this matter is a factor, so it isn't just any girl.
Your category is labeled personality, not pleasantness. Personality encompasses a person's entire character. Touma for sure finds Mikoto to be strong, cool, and dependable. That amounts to respect, almost like an equal comrade. Index is still within the realm of pet character. He dotes on her and puts up with her affectionately so due to their supposed history. It's totally different comparison. But overall, Mikoto should be higher up.
Again, this is about personality, no? Then Touma does like Birdway since he cares about her. Not romantically but someone he is indebted. But there's more to it than that, he respect her and that comes with admiration. We get down to it, Touma doesn't dislike Birdway and with all the thing she has done for him, he appreciates her.
>>116294693 The top ranks are actually pretty close to each other in that category. It could be Oriana first and Othinus second or both equal, it doesn't matter because Touma displayed the most lust and attraction towards them.
>>116294710 That logic works because outside of that scene, he has never displayed any sort of physical attraction for her. It was an one-time case influenced by various factors.
As for the personality category, yes, it is about how much he likes a girl's personality. That includes the chemistry between them, how much he enjoys to be around that girl, how comfortable he feels with her and the mutual understanding between them. Appreciation and respect still count, but it is only complementary, as he cares and respects about just everyone he meets. You convinced me to move Birdway up some places, but mostly due to the latter, he definitely gives her special appreciation and praise. She needs more bonding time and develop a chemistry with Touma to go higher up. She definitely has the potential to reach that. MIkoto on the other hand, has reached a point where it is hard for her to get any closer or develop actual chemistry with him, given that their relationship is already established and she's destined to live with her 100% onesided romantic feelings. He respects her only due to her level 5 nature, but there's nothing special going for her due to her personality.
>>116295159 Doubt it. She didn't do anything special or noteworthy this year. Not even in her manga. Other years she won even if she didn't do shit in the novels, the manga was there to support her choice, but not this time. There's at least a handful of Raildex girls that deserve that throne for what they did this year. Othinus, Misaki, Will-tan would be the most notable.
>>116295474 How is Mikoto and Lessar worse than Birdway in attractiveness then? Touma has never even had a moment with her where he feels embarrassed outside of them sleeping in the tub with him, and Lessar was there too. Not only that, he was more worried about what Index would do instead of the situation itself. He at least had that one moment with Mikoto and several with Lolisaki and Lessar, while he does nothing but make fun of Birdway's body.
>>116295474 Changing your argument and selectively don't apply the same to Index too?
What a damn joke. What you are doing is superimposing onto Touma and pushing your perception onto him. You basically are selective and nitpick counts as positive. You're not at all objective and still are taking dissected parts of personality into play. I can tell you Orsola has no chemistry, no mutual understanding, no respect, only comfort and enjoyment because she's nice and to his liking in body-type. If I were like you who in being selective, I would had placed her at near the very bottom.
I conclude you are in fact a troll. There's just no other explanation.
>>116295845 >He at least had that one moment with Mikoto and several with Lolisaki and Lessar, while he does nothing but make fun of Birdway's body. Those moments are all the same. He feels nothing for them. Birdway is still very low in the ranking anyway, it wouldn't make much difference to put her equal to them. At least he has seen her naked, I think that's enough for her to earn that place above them.
>>116296070 Orsola is a very simple and airheaded person. They don't need to have a close and deep relationship for her to be high in the rank. He certainly would enjoy her company more than most of the girls below her. She's up there simply due to how harmless she is.
>>116296276 She is a level 0, so she can't even really use it. She used the Level Upper in the manga to up herself to level 1, and all she could do is move a leaf around. A 4koma showed she would use it to lift Uiharu's skirt from a distance though.
Kongou, she is level 4 and could throw satellite dishes with her wind powerS
>>116295112 Misaka never got overshadowed. Only trolls say she did. The deal with Daihaseisai is having shared arc with Misaki for debut purposes, to help flesh her out a bit for NT11. Even at the end of Daihaseisai's arc, it returned to Misaka and ended with Misaka as it should since she's the protag.
>>116291599 >Naruhina imminent. If occurs, best girl will finally actually win. Your argument will then become invalid. (if not obvious, I'm exaggerating of course, since some best girls have won in the past)
>>116291700 >"Ah... no... you can’t... you can’t get out of the bed now!"
>Kamijou tried to sit up, only for Itsuwa to force him back down by pushing down on his shoulders with her hands. The result was that both their faces ended up five centimeters apart. Shocked, Itsuwa’s blushing face showed itself to Kamijou, and Kamijou felt there was a wall of air between them. Even so, the option of pulling away never presented itself to his mind.
They were about to kiss but fucking Index had to ruin everything. At least she didn't ruin Misaki's kiss even though it would have made not difference.
Well, at least Misaki can presume to Mikoto that she got closer to Touma than she ever did and showed affection to him in a way she will never be able to top, a kiss.
In all seriousness, an Itsuwa end is what Touma would desire the most. Mikoto and Index are fukou da-tier, Othinus and Misaki are 100% out of the race and the others don't even live in AC, including Itsuwa. Himegami is too irrelevant to be taken as a serious contender. Unless Itsuwa goes out of her way to move to AC, which is very improbable, no girl will win.
>>116298554 I doubt even pre-WW3 Touma would actually be serious about her, much less anyone. Certainty not NT Touma who has changed, more so after the ordeal involving Othinus. Girls have time for Touma but Touma doesn't have time for girls. Harem end is the only end.
>>116298859 That's true, but I was more talking about the end of the series, when everything is over. Out of the girls he knows, Itsuwa is probably the only choice he would consider if he decided to get a girlfriend.
>>116299129 Harem end IS the end of the series. I swear, sometimes I think you are a bit too delusional when it comes to Itsuwa being the one and only for Touma. She's nice and all, but not that special in a way Touma would remember forever in his heart special. That tier is reserved for girls like Othinus is special.
>>116299712 Othinus trascends romantic love, anon, and harem ends rarely happen. Touma is still a growing young boy and at some point he will want to seriously get a female partner that's equal to him.
>This may be getting repetitive, but a romantic Kamijou Touma that wanted to pursue girls’ bare skin did exist within him.
I'm not saying Itsuwa is super duper special, she's certainly the first girl that would come to his mind if he were to consider a serious relationship with a girl.
>>116300571 Wat. Those are some of the worst interactions in the whole series. There is zero chemistry between them and their dialogues are uninteresting and dumb as hell. And I say this as someone who usually likes tsunderes.
>>116300113 It's not as simple as that but either way, Othinus is special for a reason.
No, it has to be a harem end. There is just no other way for the series to end but harem end. But if girl must be chosen over harem end, then it falls to either Index or Misaka due to a number of possible reasons starting with because main heroines structure, thematic, fans influence, executive influence, and so forth.
>>116300965 No. Some other ships at least have some substance to them like the capacity to bond and develop chemistry, and aren't built on pure onesided and shallow feelings from the girl. That's why people shipping girls like Othinus or Itsuwa don't come off as delusional and obnoxious as Kamikotofags. It is particularly pleasing to prove them wrong and debunk any kind of argument they make to support their pairing, as it requires no effort or extensive research/argumentation.
>>116301160 >Othinus Is that 0.01%. Exception to the rule for having special circumstances no one else has. >Itsuwa Please. Her shippers are just as delusional and obnoxious. Touma treats her like he treats about any other heroine. Thinking she's nice a a break from most others doesn't do much in having Touma how he treats her with other heroines. Quit fooling yourself otherwise because you're a tsunderehater who sides with her because muh nemesis!
>>116301323 I don't think she's special to him any more so than his other companions, I just get annoyed when people try to argue that he doesn't even consider her a friend(which he does, at least enough to rely on her when he needs to)
>>116301271 >meta It's a bit more complicated than that. If we assume harem end is out, then Kamachi then should have plans for either Index or Mikoto, and if so then he would work on them to pave the way for either one's end. I means there's still time until to develop one or the other route and have Touma locked in on it. I still doubt that's the most likely scenario. Harem end is still the most likely end of all.
If you believe that, then I believe you stared too deeply at the ship teasing that went into Touma and Itsuwa. Too deeply.
>>116301544 Lina never changed from what made her Lina, but she still developed. Same with Mikoto for still having traits that makes her who she is. It doesn't mean she hasn't grown as a character since she has. >Being a troll and me feeding one I guess you are happy, huh?
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