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Scanned in this Kill Me Baby doujin yesterday, currently editing it, first time doing anything else than translating.

What are you currently working on?
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Also, does anyone have an idea how to fix stuff like in pic related?
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>>115802646
The brush tool you dumb nigger. Also learn how to sharpen and level, your shit is too sharpened it looks awful.
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>>115802919

It does fairly look like ass.

What scanlations are you waiting on?
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the fuck did you two-tone it? use greyscale!
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>>115803164
I scanned it in on greyscale...

>>115802919
will do
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>>115803286
>I scanned it in on greyscale...
shit looks two-tone. like something xeroxed.
personally I scan in color & convert to greyscale, in shop. gives me better results than scanning in grey.
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>>115803416
I'll make sure to do that next time.

Any other tips you can give?
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>>115803536
place e a black sheet of construction paper behind the page to eliminate page bleeding.
in shop ctrl+l to adjust b&w levels, but back them slightly back before absolute solid black. as it tends to bleed too far into fine details.
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>>115803671
I just ran my pages through the auto document feeder. Only scanned the cover and one page which the ADF constantly fucked up on individually.

I've been doing that stuff with the levels, though judging by the feedback, I've been doing something wrong?
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>>115803763
over saturated the white level, killing off too much of the grey would be my guess
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This looks like scanned in BW mode or something.
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>>115802568
My eyes. That is going to be painful to read. Make it softer.
Also post a raw page so some cleaners will have a play with it and show you what you are doing wrong.
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>>115803964
Scanned it in greyscale, here's an unedited page
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>>115804136
turn off the "Sharpen" filter in your program.
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>>115804136
You have an all in one HP, don't you?
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>>115804172
You mean in the scanning program?

>>115804226
I do...
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>>115804136
surface blur or something man
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>>115804300
Then you're never going to get decent raws, I should know I have one.
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Like DJT is there a beginner Paste-bin or something I can refer to for commonly asked things? I'm just starting to get just a little confident in my Japanese to start the process but I'm clueless on where to start.
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>>115804345
probably not? with what I know most crap is "trade secrets" or something. what'cha looking for anyways
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>>115804345
Inside scanlation has a bunch links to guides, it's what I've been referring to
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What's a good ADF scanner?
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>>115804399
Just guides and such, I guess. There's some random things here and there I've translated here on /a/ with the help with /a/non typesets so I just deiced I'd like to do it myself if I could to save time.

>>115804407
Ah, that's a great help. I'll take sometimes to read a good amount, thanks again.
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>>115804588
like for translations? proofreading? cleaning? redrawing? typesetting? quality checking? (I assume tl?)
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>>115804136
I did this very quickly at is not perfect. It shows you what you can achieve with just a bit of diffusion and surface blur. It still needs some attention. I would offer to it if I wasn't already the cleaner of a major project.
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>>115803416
>personally I scan in color & convert to greyscale
Either you retard, or your scaner is a shit.
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>>115804964
thanks a lot, I'll do my best.
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>>115804964
Looks like shit.
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>>115802568
YURI IS AN ABOMINATION
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>>115805099
Do you know what? Fuck it, I'll do it. I'm ahead of schedule anyway. I can also typeset them if you need me to.

>>115805118
Do better yourself in two minutes or fuck off.
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>>115804964
This is horrible... Why would you do that?
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>>115805195

>if you can't do it better, you don't deserve to critique

All right, manchild.
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>>115805195
Thanks for the offer, but I'm looking more for a guide on how to do these things myself than anything else. The point of this project is that I do everything myself.

Though if you could assist me with your knowledge, I'd be very grateful.
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>>115805195
Not him, but can I tell you it's shit?
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>>115805530

>x1094
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>>115805596
Better than a big pile of shit.
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Someone should pick up Sentou Hakai
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>>115805596
Those screentones look like shit at larger sizes.
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>>115805636

You have to sell it to us.
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>>115805270
The sky is fucked up but I had two minutes, it can be fixed manually with a bit of dodge. I did it because the lines are softer and it is easier on the eye, it's more pleasant to look at. Google diffusion, softening and threshold. The 8-bit greyscale format is capable of displaying 256 greys, don't be faggot, use all of them.


>>115805355
Stop using CSlive. Go and download PSCC or CS6. Don't bother with GIMP. Also get Topaz, I rarely use it but it you might want to. Your machine will need to be fairly powerful to handle it all. I use a quadcore, dual GPU and 32mb of RAM.

>>115805530
Topaz/10. Can't your toaster handle a full sized image?
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>>115805775
>Also get Topaz
>Topaz/10

Make up your mind.
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>>115805530
>784x1094
What are you, from 2000? This scan can be cleaned even with simple leveling, not to mention a little more advanced stuff. Moire is here to stay, since scaner is shit, and he seems didn't put something black at the other side of page when scanning, but it's not that bad and can be somewhat deluded while downscaling.
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>>115805893

Not OP, but how do I avoid moire when scanning? Descreen filter?
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>>115805775
Here's a page I edited earlier.

Would be great if I could get an explanation on how I fucked up and what I should have done.
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>>115806018
I just keep noticing how much the auto document feeder tends to fuck up.
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>>115805732
That double spread was a sales pitch already. Other than that it's a insane battle manga with highly creative powers drawn by the famed YOKO.
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>>115805195
>Do better yourself in two minutes or fuck off.
Fine, now stop being a retard and learn how to use PS.
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>>115806114
And you should learn to level.
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>>115806314
You said 2 minutes, and that's funny coming from you after the awful leveling in >>115804964
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>>115806417
First of all, I'm not him, and second of all, if it takes you more than five seconds to level, you're doing something horribly wrong.
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>>115806018
Over levelled. Too sharp. I'm guessing the original had tone in Agiri's eyes?

>>115806072
It can be fixed. Duplicate the layer, then fade it to exclusion and bring down the opacity until you can clearly see the layer below. Open up the levelling window and adjust the black level until the page begins to turn white, it will bring out the bleed through and also the line where the auto feeder fucked up will clearly be visable. You can then correct it with the marquee tool.
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I wish there were some more modern tutorials, but at least the old ones cover core concepts. You pretty much have to ask around for any new techniques, though.
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>>115805995
Too many variables to answer properly. It can be caner fault (especially with CIS matrix, like all-in-one or super-slim models), it can be software fault (either because it shit or you did something wrong with it), it can be because other side of page is see-trough (that's why you need unbind and put something black at top of the page when scanning), etc.
And honestly I'm not a expert on it either, and don't have software installed and scanner connected now.
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>>115806586
That's because you don't learn how to clean you learn how to use Photoshop. I've been using Photoshop since version 3.0 on System 6. The basics don't change.
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I want to be a cleaner, but I'd also like to get my monitor color-calibrated first. How do you confirm that you're seeing the same color as someone else? Ask them to eyedrop it and give you the hex?
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>>115806692

I have moire trouble with color pages (no bleeding, no filters or descreening) at 600 dpi or higher.
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I did my best with this page, but ended up like shit so I asked a friend of mine to work on the ps while I'm translating it.
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>>115806809
If you're that worried about it, get a second hand Trinitron. Trinitrons are /g/ approved CRTs. Sony still make them for professional broadcasting. More information on the colour accuracy of CRTs, the difference between Trinitron displays and Shadow Mask displays can be found by using google.
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>>115806580
I see what you mean with too sharp and over levelled, some fine lines on the cheeks are barely visible. Her eyes look pretty much the same on the original though.

I guess I should try using the original as a reference when editing these.
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>>115807042

Thanks. I'm pretty serious about it, so I'll probably invest in one.
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>>115806809
Most people have shitty monitors with shitty TN matrix anyway.
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>>115804136
Gave it a try.
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>>115804136
Shitty scanner (and/or software settings) is the real problem. This is not how it should be.
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>>115807069
Here's an example of how to fix the autofeed errors. It's time consuming but perfectly possible.
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>>115807702
Forgot image
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>>115807637
How to the text looks isn't important, not going to publish the raws anyway.

What I mainly care about is making the rest look good.
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>>115807878
How the raw looks matters a lot because if it's shit like this >>115807637 then it's harder to clean.
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>>115807923
I haven't tried cleaning it yet, but how would that make it harder?

I can't imagine it making any huge difference.
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>>115807967
It does, for one the aliasing will be shit.
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>>115807878
Text has nothing to do with anything. Scanner/soft killed everything, and make it like you scanned in black-and-white/fax mode. For example, how it should look after scanning.
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Interesting
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>>115808217
So I guess the best course of action would be to scan them again?

Using the platen with a black sheet behind the paper, and not the auto document feeder.
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>>115808377
Actually, it would be getting a flatbed scanner.
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Posting what I got
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>>115808407
any recommendations for less than hundred bucks?
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>>115808470
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What's the current recommended debinding method? Microwave or hotwater?
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>>115808527
Iron.
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>>115808521
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>>115808377
You can try, but I doubt you can get it any better. Maybe trying to scan in RGB mode could help. And think about buying new scanner with CCD matrix.
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>>115808491
Canon FTW: http://www.amazon.com/Canon-CanoScan-4507B002-LiDE110-Scanner/dp/B003VQR1UC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1414183872&sr=8-2&keywords=canon+canoscan+lid.

Although you'll have to use IrfanView to scan instead of the default software (as it is commonly known Canon is incapable in that area).
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>>115808545
Fuck. Time to go shopping.
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>>115808664
You don't have an iron? Don't you ever iron your clothes, mate?
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>>115808664
Nah, microwave works (for me anyway). Takes 25-30 seconds max. Obviously, take off the main dust jacket first.
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>>115808692
I pay someone else to press my shirts. Ironing is too much trouble
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>>115808715
Can't rebind it with a mircrowave though.
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Here dude. If you don't have PNG as an option, scan as TIF and then convert to PNG in Photoshop using an action/drop. They're bigger in file size, but awesome (hell, you can also level/clean straight from TIF in photoshop if you want!).
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>>115808521
>why you should never use text boxes
That's bullshit. http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/formatting-paragraphs.html#specify_hanging_punctuation_for_roman_fonts while formate lines with [enter] as usual.
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>>115808870
I never rebind. If I want my own copy that hasn't been debinded, I buy a second tank.
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Hey /a/, got any advice for cleaning this page without fucking everything up?
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>>115808636
Thanks, I'll look into getting that
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>>115809215
Nope, scan is kill.
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>>115809300
You better not.
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/scanners/photo_scanners/canoscan_lide110#Specifications
>Scanning Element Contact Image Sensor (CIS)
It won't be much better than all-in-one.
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>>115808576
Writing of which, does anyone here have the pack on >>101069984 It had some fonts that I used to like
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>>115808491
I got my Epson V37 for $87 at OfficeMax before tax (thank god for price matching) and I like it. Better than an all-in-one anyway.
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>>115809481

What's the problem with CIS? I just realized that mine has that, unfortunately.
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>>115808715

Microwave works, it's just that an iron is easier (less risk of accidentally cooking your pages).
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>>115809215
Just level the shirt separately. It should only take a few second to crop out with the the quick select.
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>>115809215
Dodge and burn.
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>>115810060
Mostly depth of the field (which is not a problem if you unbind manga anyway), but there's some other problems as well like distortion of lines, poor image quality (I bet this scan >>115809215 was done with CIS), etc.
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Here's a challenge of boredom, /a/.
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>>115811067
Make that look better than I did.
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>>115811117
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>>115811117
You can make it better by leveling 6/1,18/253, then adding some smart sharp, and saving with 32+ colors.
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>>115811374
A for effort, anon.
>>115811510
Yeah, I noticed the color depth too late. I wasn't really paying attention. But changing the gray scale that much will murder the lighter hair and blushes.

Sometimes I just try to fix really shitty raws like cell phone pics, just to see if I can.
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>>115811806
>But changing the gray scale that much will murder the lighter hair and blushes.
>much
>+0.18
It won't.
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>>115811067
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Wow, I finally got a semi-decent scan out of my old all-in-one after so many years of trying. All it took was taking off one of automatic settings.
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>>115812073
Yeah, can't you see the difference? You lost a good 4-5px off the hair line, and a few px on the blushes.
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>>115812260
Much better. Now to stop leveling your scans...
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>>115812385
I'm not OP just so you know. And I didn't level it, that's still a problem with the scanner program, gotta fiddle with it more.
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>>115811806
>Sometimes I just try to fix really shitty raws like cell phone pics, just to see if I can.
I'm clean scanlations now and then just to read them. As re-save in png. Though, sometimes it's impossible to clean/fix with actions alone, like those in Kyuusen no Shima (different pages have different leveling), or LasBoss X Hero (scans have resolution jumping from 2000 to 1200), and I don't what to spoiler everything or literally re-cleaning and re-typing everything...
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>>115812471
My bad.
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>>115812260
Except for some cut lines that run down at some points this actually ends up looking good. Too bad no one will ever translate it.
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>>115812385
I always level in scanner software. The idea is that you showing scanner how intense light should be, or something like that.
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