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Guess I managed to miss the ending to Nickelodeon a few days ago; just finished reading it.

I can feel physical pain in my chest right now, /a/. Hold me.
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You missed a pretty big thread, although most of it was just dumping favorite chapters.

There was also a chart in progress detailing how the stories are connected in-universe.
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One of my favorites. So sad to see it go.
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>>115608847
They ever finish that chart? Had to go midway due to shit
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>>115608939

Not yet, but since there's a Dowman thread up (that hopefully will last a while), we can resume work on it.
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>>115608939
I'd like to see this as well.
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>>115608678
That's what Dowman always does though.
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>>115608847
I saw it in the archives. I was honestly hoping for a more upbeat or touching finale, but I wonder if maybe it's not supposed to be an allegory for the series' cancellation. I got the feeling that Dowman was heartbroken to see it come to an end.
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Will any one his work get a faithful adaptation by shaft?
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Look at it this way - it might have been axed, but Dowman was able to wrap it up decently with a nice little allegory about storytellers, and the nature of stories. I liked it. Like a nice old man reading bed time stories to you, the reader, but he suddenly has to leave and promises he'll return some day to tell you more stories. A little depressing, though, with the NTR, but Dowman's stories have always had the undercurrent of love being a dark and melancholy thing.
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>>115609105
Pretty much this. I always liked his stuff, even his hentai work gets ya thinking and feeling. Talent like that's a rare thing.
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The author is a pretty chill guy. I hope he expands into the digital market, though, I'd love to see his older, hard-to-find doujinshi for sale digitally.
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>>115609222
>was able to wrap it up
Or he had this ending in mind for quite a time already.
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>>115609350
>Sidonia doujin never
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>>115609222
Oh I agree. It's a really clever message wrapped up in characteristic Dowman fashion, I was just expecting something more upbeat. I do love the way he managed to convey that sense of heartbreak without ever resorting to tears or exaggeration. There's no crying or death or excessive negativity, just a mild, bitter sense of loss. Just enough to bring you down.

I hate to gush like this, but I guess that in and of itself is pretty beautiful.
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>>115609516

A likely scenario, given the volatile state of an episodic manga in a low-selling alternative magazine. A shame, too, he was starting to weave the stories together more often. He seemed pretty somber when he announced that Nick was getting the hatchet.

>>115609543

Maybe someday.
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From the previous thread, might be missing a couple of small things.

>>115360904
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>>115610424
Looks like it's time to reread and fact check.

Do the dotted arrows mean anything in particular?
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>>115610585

I'm not sure, I don't recall seeing it explained. Maybe it means a passing reference, rather than explicitly showing up in another chapter.
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>>115608678
Looking at this picture actually makes me feel like a Dowman anime would be pretty fuckin viable. Like if you look at his artstyle it wouldn't take much to adjust it slightly to be easier for animation. Most of his shit is pretty angular.

A Dowman anime would be dope as fuck too.
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>>115610778
I'm curious what his readership looks like over in Japan. As far as I know he's not exactly a household name, but it would be really nice to see his work get an adaptation.
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>>115610681
Correct, for example hand girl saying she's classmates with tiger girl but tiger girl not showing up in the chapter.
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Isn't Voynich Hotel ending soon too? I loved that, when I heard of it I marathon-ed the entire thing in a night. Great times, sad to see it go.
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>>115610869

Well, he has 20k Twitter followers, so there's that. Nickelodeon Blue also ranked in manga sales. I imagine he's fairly well-known.
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>>115610968
He has a tumblr.
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>>115610929
>Isn't Voynich Hotel ending soon too
Yes. I believe we have three or four chapters left now, but don't quote me on that.
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>>115610424

Could use some headshots and chapter names. I guess someone has to go screencap every proper noun in the series now.
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>>115610424
There is quite a bit of crossover between Oddman 11, Nickelodeon, and and Voynich with characters and chapters.
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>>115611348
Mapfag and I compiled names and chapters last thread so at least people will know where to go for headshots.
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>>115611427

Indeed, but let's get through Nick first.
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>No Smoking
Gorilla confirmed for Zvezda.
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Did they ever explain why that chick lost her left hand?
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>>115611131
If both voynich and nick are over, where will i get my dowman dose? Just oddman ain't enough
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>>115612508
She cut it off.
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>>115612508
She cut it off herself to see if the red string of fate was connected to the boy.
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>>115612572
She cut it off because it wasn't connect to the boy.
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>>115612572
>>115612687

Completely forgot about that.
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>>115611131
About ten or twelve chapters.
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>>115613033

More like around 5. Volume 3 is 140 pages so far.
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Why are you guys so sure he got axed?

What if he just ran out of ideas or simply wanted to work on other shit?
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>>115613593

because the magazine got axed suddenly, and nickelodeon was in the "dropped" list of series that didn't carry over.
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>>115613679
Oh. ;_;
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>>115613679
so the magazine got bankrupted?
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I just realized that these kids got killed in God Legacy.
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>>115615173
Holy shit nice eye. Summoning Mapfag to connect angel arc to pokemon arc.
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>>115615380
>>115615173

>you will never live in a Pokemon world with a cyclops witch and other anthropomorphic Oddmen with a shota angel that holds up the sky and whatever other crazy bullshit there is
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This guy is one of the most overrated indie authors out there. draws with his ass and stories are made in a labirynthine way just because he can't pull a fucking plot togheter. and he's also terribly hipster and a 420BLOWIT faggot. I thought he was good, reading some things. guess I was wrong
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>>115615173

So we have a little more chronology, cool. Pokemon comes before God Legacy.
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>>115615549
The bait is real in this one
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>>115615549
Bait.
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>>115615684
>>115615694
No, its actually what I think
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This guy isn't the owner of Voynich, right?

I've been rereading The End of Hydrogen Bomb War. So far it only seems to be a lot of potential for crossovers, but I can't actually recognize anyone.

The only thing I remember is that Inuta should be the same furry from Oddman.
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>>115616025
>This guy isn't the owner of Voynich, right?
what
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>>115609136
Fuck why do so many people want shaft to touch dowman's stuff? Shinbo-ism would turn it all to shit.
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>>115616078
The owner of the hotel, the Masked Luchador.
The one who beat Chuck Norris.
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>>115615434
>you will never have a yearly sumo competition with a giant oni girl
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>>115616113
IMO they did a pretty good job on the first season of Zetsubou Sensei. It kind of has the same vibe that Dowman's work has, so that's why I think they would do a good job.
I'm not the guy you responded to, though.
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>>115610424
Dang, I really liked this manga.

Well, at least I'll contribute to the connections.

There's a panel from chapter 10 (vigilante) showing the girl sits in the same class as the one handed girl, and there's a page from the inside cover of volume 1 showing the the one handed girl works in the cafe that the twins from chapter 5 (heels and sneakers) visit.
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>>115615549
:^)
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>>115613593
That was my favorite chapter for some reason.
I asked him with my terrible moon what that girl's name was, but he said he never picked one and just referred to her as senpai.
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>>115616576
Oh wow, I didn't catch that one either. Some of these are really subtle.
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>>115616576
>There's a panel from chapter 10 (vigilante) showing the girl sits in the same class as the one handed girl
Already found that one.
>and there's a page from the inside cover of volume 1 showing the the one handed girl works in the cafe that the twins from chapter 5 (heels and sneakers) visit.
Nice eye. Forgot to check the extra pages.
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>>115616576
Nice. I recognized that was her from the hair style but didn't even notice the missing hand. I guess I mentally overlooked it because she was carrying that massive drink.
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>>115616576
Summoning Mapfag to connect handless to gay coffee.
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>>115616576

Wasn't she missing her left hand? That one is missing her right. Might just be a retcon.
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If we assume fairy tale arc is standalone, all we have left to do is find the connections between inventor & stepladder arcs with the main story line.
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Such pure love
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>>115617243
Oh you're right. I'm thinking it was just a careless mistake.
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Favorite chapter?

I like virgin piss chapter.
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>>115617384
I used to like that one but now it just makes me sad.
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>>115617254
Robot Keiji is so based it's unreal.

I legitimately thought that chapter was going to end in death.
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>>115617384
Lunch at Columbine and Contract are my personal favorites. Picking individual chapters is really difficult, though.
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>>115617384
Gay coffee. It's what introduced me to Dowman.
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>>115617243
>>115617298
Jut checked my version (I'm bad at moon but I thought the dude could use some support).
It's fixed in mine, he changed it for newer releases.
Sorry for bad camera quality, hopefully you can see it.
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>>115617651

Oh, good. A simple mistake, then.
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>>115617384
fujo ghost wanting gay coffee to join a threesome
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>>115617248

What about Warren Wilson Dies Again?
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>>115618096
I think we've given up on the oneshots.
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>>115618136

Yeah probably. I'll see if I can MS-paint a prettier graph. There's probably a nice feature in PS to generate a flowchart, but I don't have it on this computer.
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>>115611041
Link?
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>>115608678
NTR ending?
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>>115618360

Try googling "dowman sayman tumblr".
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>>115618416
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hue
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Does Tiger-Lily (Vigilante) not show up anywhere else?
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>>115619041
>3 chapters translated
Why is god so cruel?
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So...Did they ever find Narumiya's body parts?
What about her senpai's boobs, did She ever admit to hiding them?

I know It has 3 volumes but it just doesn't feel like enough, you know?
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>>115619083
Couldn't find her anywhere else.
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>>115618416
>http://dowman-s.tumblr.com/post/63058154902
Nice boats
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>>115617384
I really liked gay coffee. But in general all the Nickelodeon chapters give me a warm and fuzzy feeling. I love his art style.
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What I've capped of anything that looks important. Anything look like it's missing?

http://a.pomf.se/npeghf.zip
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>>115619288
It seems appropriate for a Dowman Sayman work to end before it's due.
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Have I just been lurking at odd hours? Because it seems like lately I've been seeing a DS topic every night whereas before it seemed like it was once in a blue moon.

I'm extremely pleased, just a little bit upset that I must have missed all the fun before now.
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>>115620734
Nickelodeon ended earlier this week and a new Voynich chapter dropped yesterday. It's been a while since we've seen an update for either, so that's probably why. But it's nice, I agree.
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>>115620734
I'm just as surprised as you are. I didn't think anyone here even gave a shit about Dowman since I never seen him get mention once.
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>>115620978
>since I never seen him get mention once.
Are you new?
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>>115620978
>I didn't think anyone here even gave a shit about Dowman since I never seen him get mention once
I bet you think no one here watched old well-know anime too since it's not discussed, retard.
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>>115621174
Not him, but there are some shows no one on /a/ has watched.

eg, Gakkatsu season 2 ;____________________________;
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>>115621209
I sail old well-known, you idiot. And of course there's nothing to talk about Gakkatsu other than bitch about lack of subtitles for second season.
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>>115621321
You're becoming hysterical.
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Is stepladder Fumi (14-38) connected to anything else?
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>>115621390
Not that I could find.
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Slowly making a new chart.
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>>115620978
We circlejerk about Dowman all the time in manga and one-page threads.
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Finished the mainline stuff, adding the extra stories that aren't connected.
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>>115624404
Godspeed
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Not looking as organized as I want it. Should've planned this better. Oh well, it'll still be easy to read if you follow the characters.
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>>115625704
Did you forget to post the pic?

Also, I think Douman has a thing for dismembering girls. It happens far too much to be a coincidence.
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>>115625879

Douman has a thing for Mignola, ergo the ink (blood) and supernatural shit everywhere
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>>115626049
I have a feeling I know who Elena's mom is.
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In case the JPEG ends up being unreadable, here's the png. Anything not on here is probably a oneshot. Haven't crossed it with Voynich or Sexual Instinct yet.

http://a.pomf.se/vkakfi.png
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I fucking love Dowman Sayman


and the chapter with the alcoholic saliva gave me a weird new fetish that I can't satisfy
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>>115626528

>mangahere

nope, fuck off.
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>>115626557
>2014
>meme arrows
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>>115626589

You're retarded, and should feel bad about being a bottom-feeder who's stupid to understand why.
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>>115626261
Wow, anon. You outdid yourself.
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>>115626619
delicious bottom-feed
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>>115626622

Now to add whatever other crossovers there are.
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On a scale of 1 to 10 how retarded am I for only just now noticing the dick on the cover?
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>>115626962

Easy to miss.

On that note, I want to buy those books to get HQ scans of the covers. The last two Hydrogen volumes also got reprinted into one bunko with a new cover, which might have some extra stuff in it.
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>>115626261
Really nice. I never even made the connection between the planet bomb and the one from chapter 37.
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Is there any chance we'll see more of Suicide Parabellum now that Nickelodeon is over? I seem to remember elemhunter or tsuuyaku mentioning they wanted to get their hands on more chapters of that.
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>>115627364
Wow all this time I thought it was a oneshot.
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>>115627919
Not according to Elemhunter on the batoto page.
>This is a triannual series, so once it's caught up (4 chapters right now, I think), there will be a few months in between chapters if it's still ongoing.
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>>115608678
I just got the word and damn, that was a decent ending.
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>>115617384
the peeping fujoshi ghost
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I really hope we'll see a new serialization from Dowman in the near future. Even if it's just a collection of short stories like Nickelodeon, it's nice to have more of his work on a consistent basis. Also adult content or not, I still prefer his non-h work to his h doujinshi.
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>>115618360
I found his Twitter, but lo luck on the Tumblr
https://twitter.com/dowmansayman
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>>115631191
I already posted it in the thread.
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>>115617384
God Legacy because I liked the black monolith concept and the background behind it and Paranoid Android for the feels.
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Wait, what? Nickelodeon ended? What the fuck, when?
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>>115633645
ググレカス
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I keep away from Sayman's work like the plague

It makes me feel uncomfortable and depressed
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I like Voynich. I don't think he can complete the manga by the end of the third volume even though he said he was. However, I do think he can complete it by the end of a fourth volume if he decides to do it. The ending is probably going to be as open as the endings to his other shit though.
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>>115617082
Sure sure.


>>115611433
That's a lot of work and I have no experience in making stuff look nice.
Some Anon wanted to clean it up during the weekend, but I think he didn't.
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>>115615173
Nice.

>>115626261
Oh, this is nice.
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>>115626962
In that it played quite a part in the chapter that's from, quite stupid.

>That SZS parody
Heh.
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>>115626261
Well, if I can have some objections:

The Volume 1 omake should connect to chapter 9, because that's where she cuts her hair.
I'd put mentions of the young sister having sex in chapter 16, so it's much clearer what you're referrencing. You could also show the nameplate from chapter 32.
You could also list the unlinked chapters, maybe someone will find connections to them.
And I think "Downmanverse" sounds cooler than written separatedly.

But you did good Anon. You did really good.

Also, now that I'm thinking of it. It's highly unlikely, but maybe some connections were lost in translation?
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>>115619631
>SAO
>kancolle
>Persona
Jesus christ what a pleb
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I would 100% kickstart a anime for this.
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If I were rich, I would give him enough money to concentrate on whatever he wants to draw for several years.
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pick
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his next series
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>>115641362
Shunji Iwai anime Hana and Alice manga adaptation. Not a bad move. But I want to read his original works. He is such a talented artist. I think he needs an equally talented editor or producer who can give him some free hand.
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What makes his artstyle so fucking appealing? I want to study it.
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>>115645487
It's the blend of cartoonish style and moeish style.
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>>115646092
Yeah, but is it the skinny limbs? Large eyes? Angular, blockish hair? I just can't put a finger on why I like his art so much more than any other mangaka.
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>>115635789
>That SZS parody
Am I retarded? I don't remember that one from Hydrogen Bomb War. Then again, I read most of the stories in that one individually.
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>>115646528
I've been thinking about this too; you can identify at a glance what makes Dowman's art different, but identifying what exactly makes it so pleasant to look at is a whole different ball game. Unfortunately I don't think I'm well versed enough in art and character design to figure it out, but I can definitely say that eye shape, facial variety and expression, and line thickness play a big role.
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>>115619041
This is really difficult to translate. The joke is that: "一ニ十才" can be read "オナニー" when read backwards.
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>>115647253
Para iso strikes me as being significantly more difficult to translate than Dowman's other work due to a heavier focus on jokes and wordplay aimed at a native audience. Almost like SZS really. Is that accurate or does it only apply to early chapters?
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>>115608678
>No DS' manga will ever get an anime
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>>115646528
Surely he has a unique style. To my eyes his characters look "western" because of blockish lines. Especially the hands. They look like almost this cartoonish sometimes. But the hairs and expressions are definitely those of manga. It's really a unique chemistry.
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>>115638022
I can't imagine SHAFT doing a kickstarter.
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>>115616377
If anything I'd like to see it get the Katanagatari treatment.
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>>115647604
You are right. The title itself is from the word ぱらいそ which means "paradise" in Portugese. Every Japanese knows the word because they learned it from the history text book.
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About his twitter

He uses twitpic for a lot of older images, and twitpic is shutting down on the 25th so it would be nice to archive anything you can

or tell him about twitpic's shutdown if someone here speaks moon
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>>115628248


have the raws been uploaded anywhere?
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>>115617384
The Cold Equations chapter. I love it when Golden Age SF gets referenced anywhere.

Or maybe he's referencing Twilight Zone referencing Cold Equations or something.
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>>115647820

Also influence from Hellboy guy

Crossover when?
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>>115625879
>Douman has a thing for ___ girls.
True for any value.
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Seems that Dowman might have something on http://yawaspi.com/, which is a free web comic platform.
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I love his blatant parodies. No hiding and not annoying at all. I want a "Douman Parody Chart" next.
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>>115649058
It's this. >>115642035
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>>115649252

Oh, I missed that. Might be cool.
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>>115627919
>>115627364

I want to buy the chapters, but they would cost me $15 a chapter (and it seems like a tank might come out in a year or so), which is a pretty big money sink when you add up the existing chapters that could be going towards buying his old doujinshi or something. I'm not opposed to taking donations for this particular series, though.
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>>115639616

that's a pretty cute illustration. some pixiv user? google gives me a dead end for some reason. i wonder what dowman's sales are like in Japan.
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>>115608678
Holy shit what an amazing artstyle, picked up.
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>>115649815
Looks like a colored manga panel.
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>>115647604

That's the main reason why thetsuuyaku doesn't want to work on it, because he'd have to basically rewrite Dowman's script. Some other anon made an attempt to scanlate the series, but seeing as how that chapter was forever ago I'd wager that they gave up.
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>>115649174
>Asuka
It's Natsumi from Keroro.
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>>115649815
If Douman uses pixiv, yeah it's by a pixiv user.
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>>115650048
Visually, she looks like Natsumi, too. But Natsumi is not a tsundere character.
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>free web comic platform

Hope that doesn't mean something ominous. Then again he might've just been commissioned by the director, in which case that's a good thing.
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Some shitty scans for one of the Mephisto volumes popped up, so here's a random Suicide Parabellum chapter.
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>>115648649
I don't have a clue. That might be something to ask elemhunter himself.
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>>115649401
That's pretty expensive. How many pages do most of those chapters run? I'd imagine they average a lot more than most of his monthly work, but then again we're lucky to see more than 10 pages in those. I don't have a lot of disposable income but I'm rapidly beginning to consider that more Dowman would be worth the investment.
>>115650478
You are a good, good person, anon.
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>>115649922
You're in for a treat. What I wouldn't give to be you again.
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>>115651672

20-25 pages per chapter.
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>>115651784
>You will never read Voynich Hotel for the first time again
fuck ;_;
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>>115651941
Joke's on you, my memory is beyond shitty so I'm golden.
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>>115651882
Interesting. Do Dowman manga just have low page counts because he works on a hundred different things at once? Or does he just have a dayjob?
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>>115652119

Probably the former. Voynich used to be monthly, so at a time he has around 50 pages a month with all of his series.
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>>115652178
What's he have going currently? Nickelodeon's over and Voynich is bimonthly (I think), but he still does Oddman 11 monthly right? Add Para Iso on top of that and Suicide Parabellum 3 times a year and I feel like I'm back in math class.
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>>115652830

I meant to say "used to have around 50 pages a month."

Oddman 11 (48 pages or so per year assuming 8 pages bimonthly), Suicide Parabellum (70 pages or so per year), Voynich (page count per chapter has increased, so let's just go with 6 * 9 as a middle-ground and make it 54 pages), and Ayame x Amane (around 12 pages per year) are his ongoing series right now. Paraiso ended a few months ago.
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>>115653088
Oh right. I forgot about Ayame x Amane.
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>>115650841
What the fuck is happening

Also if pic related was translated, I don't see why Paraiso can't be. The translator could just put translation notes; it's a bit clunky but I'm sure it's funny with or without puns.
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>>115653367

For the same reason Kumeta's new series was never picked up and why only one scanlation group has ever been crazy enough to take on SZS. Even if it's technically doable, it's very difficult.
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>>115653439

Someone said that Voynich somehow connects, but I don't recall anything like that. Voynich and Sexual Instinct connect, at least.
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>>115653439
I don't get it.
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>>115653439
What about Poohta and Snow White chapters?
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>>115654125

Whoops, forgot those.
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>>115654125
Those are obviously parodies of existing fairy tales, it's highly unlikely they'd connect to anything.
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>>115654176

The same could be said for several of the other stories. I'll put them on there anyway for the sake of completion.
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>>115654176
A lot of Dowman's short stories are parodies or twists on folktales, books, movies, historical texts, etc. actually.
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>>115654488
Even Oddman 11's general plot outline is basically Scott Pilgrim but gayer.

And one of the stories in Sexual Instinct was a parody of en episode of Twilight Zone. Since the short ended with the gay sniper dieing in the exploding plane, it's weird that he decided to use the character in Voynich.
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>>115654831

That episode is pretty popular, I've seen quite a few mangaka parody it. My favorites parodies are by Dowman and Sugimura Shinichi.
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I downloaded the first volume of Nickelodeon forever ago and loved it, but sort of fell behind reading anything else by this author.

Where to even begin, there's a million series listed here http://www.mangaupdates.com/authors.html?id=6864, I only have the first volume of Voynich Hotel and Nickelodeon Red.
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>>115655179

Most of those are on Batoto.
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>>115639616

Tanikaze pls translate Dowman for us

Also, sidonia's next week or so, right?
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>>115655179
Most of those are one chapter.
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>>115655528
I'm just pulling everything on thetsuuyaku's blog to start with.

I know Sayman was on the list of authors from the whole fakku fiasco, I suppose I should check sadpanda as well. Does anyone know if any of his content was purged?
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>>115655675

His stuff is still there.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/wte7f9x2c5y92/Dowman
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>>115608678

>Ending of Nickelodeon
>Nick is dying due to shit shows like Sanjay and Craig and Breadwinners, zombie Spongebob and Fairly Oddparents airing most of the day, and too many live-action shows

Ninja Turtles 2K12 is great though. But I wish they would tone down the 80's show pandering
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>>115653716
What? Are you talking about the Time Thief manga? Yeah it was

http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/sekkachi-hakushaku-to-jikan-dorobou-r10821
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>>115656181

>13 February 2014

RIP Suimasen.
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Well at least we got a new Voynich Hotel chapter lately.
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Truly a genius of our time
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>>115656207
>Suimasen
As good as dead by now. I wish someone took Azazel off their hands, we didn't even scratched non-animated parts yet.
At least WhyNot is working on last OVA.
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>>115656817
Shame, I really liked those two chapters. I hope it keeps getting scanlated.

Maybe Shaft will adapt it to anime one day.
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>>115656181
Correction: the first two chapters were, and then they dropped it.

Maybe we'll see them do it after all since it's ending soon, though.
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Voynich Hotel seems to be heading towards an ending too though, and thats frightening me.
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>>115658094

I wouldn't count on it, Suimasen announced that they're unofficially closed because they have like two active staff members who are busy with life. I wish they would ask on /a/ or something.
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>>115642035

I've never even heard of Hana and Alice. Any idea if it's good? Manga seems untranslated, haven't seen the movie.
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>>115657995
what? it make no sense since it in moonspeak
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>>115659272

Maybe it'll be translated someday.
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>>115659783
don't make me hope and sad, anon.
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>>115626557
>mangahere
Go away
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>>115659196
The manga doesn't start publishing until February 2015, which is also when the anime movie premiers. Haven't seen the 3dpd movie.
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>>115661003

https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=19478
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>>115661055
Oh, my bad. Had no idea there was another manga adaptation of it.
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>>115642035
I know we say it ad nauseam in these threads, but if there is justice in this universe, someday Dowman's work will itself be given an adaptation.
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>>115642035

He's done a videogame adaptation already, I was wondering when he's get a movie as well.
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Not that we need any more Nick/Oddman evidence, but here's an oni girl.
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>>115656631
I swear he has to be Kumeta.
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>>115662335
As fans of his work, we can only pray for the best.
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>>115661146

Neither did I. There don't seem to be any raws.
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