The only thing DEEN didn't fuck up were the character models.
What you meant to say was
>Ufotable improved the character models
Go on, call me a ufofag, I know you will.
On a further note, I just finished the Fate route yesterday, holy hell were those sex scenes shitty and forced as all hell. Starting UBW route tonight, both of these routes are non-canon as I hear since Ataraxia goes with Heaven's Feel being the canon one, I hope this is true, since I really dislike all sorts of "Alternate dimensions" and "all timelines can be true at once" bullshit since it makes things extremely confusing. And I know Rin fucks time up in Ataraxia, it's a nice way to make them remember the previous routes, but it doesn't mean they happened in that universe.
Still better than this. Not by much however.
>Starting UBW route tonight, both of these routes are non-canon as I hear since Ataraxia goes with Heaven's Feel being the canon one,
This nigga right here
Yes, fucking 2nd magic bitch, Kelidoscope. Deal with it. Also Shirou is the red man.
I will refer to the comment on me only hearing this. I'm only reading the novels anyway since people keep telling me it's better than Fate/Zero, so far, hell no. Granted, it's good, very good, but it's not Fate/Zero.
Everyone knows Shirou is Archer, that's still shitty, you can't have three different routes be valid at the same time, it just makes no damn sense. What is Nasu thinking. Shit's going to be so damn confusing.
Of course I'm judging it as I go along, I can also change my judgment as I go along, but Heaven's Feel or UBW better be fucking amazing to beat Fate/Zero. Especially since the original has such a shitty character cast in comparison to Fate/Zero, and not even going to the fact that Fate/Stay focuses on a single team in the war. Hardly gives a bigger picture. Unless we do get a lot of screentime from other teams in UBW and HF.
I fucking hope so, Shirou/Tohsaka/Saber are so fucking boring. Jesus.
They all take place in their own parallel universe, which means that everything in F/SN is canon. Bad ends as well. Besides if by your own logic one route has to be canon then the route Shirou became Archer is canon which is neither UBW, Fate or HF.
I watched the DEEN adaptation and movie first, then watched Fate/Zero, now reading the original material.
As for the "you done fucked up". Hell no, Fate/Zero was fucking magnificent. As it stands now, nothing Stay related even compares, although I am hyped for Heaven's Feel, it better not dissappoint.
>I watched the DEEN adaptation and movie first,
When you kill too much people you legit become an edgemaster. Try JU-C YU-G in Grisaia, literal fucking edgemaster, but extremely likeable. But his edge is explained and makes fucking sense which is really hard to do nowdays.
I watched them because of a suggestion, I didn't know what Fate/ was before I saw 'em. Be glad it managed to get me interested, I wouldn't be enlightening myself with the original content if I didn't gain interest through something. Besides, I'm sure a fuckton of people have done their introduction to Fate/ just like I did.
>since Ataraxia goes with Heaven's Feel being the canon one
You do realize that's Heaven's Feel epilogue takes place two years after the Holy Grail war.
Yes, "you done fucked up". You just don't know it yet. Just because you think you didn't because you enjoyed Zero doesn't mean shit.
You might just have ruined part of Heaven's feel for yourself.
God damn it, I was hoping we'd at least be spared this shit for another week or so...
I'm hyped for the new adaptation, but I firmly believe it won't live up to Fate/Zero.
>Generic highschool students fucking around
>Not giving the picture of the entire war, but focusing on a single team
>No Gilles de Rais
>No Banquet of Kings
You didn't enjoy Saber's deep throating?
I like HF and UBW equally
But Rin is best girl..
Yeah, because I partake in one thread per half a year is such a steep price to pay. I'm sorry I won't be an elitist who thinks that all anime adaptations are rotten, on a board that focuses partly on anime.
No, it was hideous.
>FUCK YOU ARTHUR, I'M SO DONE WITH YOUR WHITE KNIGHT FAGGOTRY
>I watched the DEEN adaptation and movie first, then watched Fate/Zero, now reading the original material.
>Fate/Zero was fucking magnificent.
It hasn't even been a week and they're already here. You Fate/Zerofaggots are the worst part of Type-Moon saying that Fate/Zero is some 'epic zero moeshit dark fantasy masterpiece'.
And what exactly in that makes you angry? You think some fucking H-scenes with saber is better? Good for you. I personally have no interest in Tohsakas anus, Sabers deepthroating, Sakuras worms, nor do I have interest in the entire powerstruggles on "which one is the strongest servant". I liked the wit and strategic moments in Zero. Shirou is a master fucking strategist, sure thing.
Which reminds me; Shit's getting real, yo.
In anime they are.
>You shouldn't enjoy Fate/Zero because it came out after this product, which I enjoyed more, thus my taste is far better than yours.
I'm saying that I, as an individual, favor Fate/Zero over the original, due to it's characters. I don't give a fuck about anyone else who likes Fate/Zero or /Stay for other reasons, or thinks one is better than the other. Feel free to think that, just don't slander other peoples tastes.
There's no benefit to anyone of us being here. None of us are capable of being civil, or allowing other people to have their own opinions on matters. There's literally no profit to any of us being here.
>I hear since Ataraxia goes with Heaven's Feel being the canon one
No it isn't.
>I really dislike all sorts of "Alternate dimensions" and "all timelines can be true at once" bullshit since it makes things extremely confusing.
It's so hard to accept that individual routes are simply parallel worlds to each other?
Maybe you should read this:
Hopefully Ufotable shows Saber as the eternally hungry creature she is and not try to pander it to be like F/Z in how the majority of the story was serious.
It was sarcasm.
Yes, there were moments in which the characters talked about their plans, and some plans were excecuted and used in succession, I also liked the parts where the teams were figuring out what the other masters and servants were up to via deduction, shit was cool.
I liked Kerry, sure, but I loved the shit out of Kotomine, Waver&Iskandar, Gilles de Rais, shit, I can't really even decide. There wasn't a character that I "didn't especially like". Tokiomi could've used some more focus on his motives and character, and Iri wasn't all that special, although not a bad character by any means.
All the three routes in f/sn are canon, go ask the old man with jewels.
As for ataraxia, that shit already started when avenger tainted the grail( The great fire in F/Z, the black goop in fate, the shinji grail blob thingy in UBW and angra mainyu near birth in HF).
>People not understanding the multiverse made all the routes canon
It is explained in the cave in HF when Rin uses Zelretch.
>As for the "you done fucked up". Hell no, Fate/Zero was fucking magnificent
You watched/read Zero before experiencing HF.
As my colleague once said: YOU DONE FUCKED UP
They better not skip her going to school with Shirou.
Prismafags will get what's coming when they see that Ilya is a psychopath and when she get's her heart ripped out. Zerofags however are worse as they are composed of insufferable fujoshit (Gilfags and Diarmuidfags) and dudebros (Iskandarfags). I eagarly await the RPing anime only Gilfags getting jobbed by Shirou and Sakura.
Miyuverse Shirou is based as fuck.
God, Zerofags are so obnoxious.
Everyone knows the Third was was the best one.
>Dual Sabers with Edelfelt twins as masters
>midget Assassin making people explode
>Nazis and the Japanese army fucking shit up
>Einzberns summoning "All the Evils of the World" for shits and giggles
>Tohsaka defeating and NTR'ing one of the Edelfelt sister away, stealing 90% of the magic in the process
>Zouken actually for once fighting
You need to realize that this fanbase is 90% pure fucking cancer who just came for the porn and ended up becoming enthralled because there was more to it than that. Good luck. Threads are pretty much always pure shit.
Welcome to /a/, daily reminder that: My Taste > Shit > Your Taste.
Also if you don't want your opinion fucked up, dragged through the mud and proven the fuck wrong go to Gaia, MAL or Reddit, I hear they are filled with filthy secondaries like yourself.
Yeah, I'm trying to skim through the shit to find the people who actually are interested in the entire concept of the war, and not having sex with girls and creatures.
You called Shirou a "generic high schooler"
Not even that guy but: Yes, you were fucking proven wrong when we laughed at you and if you'd shut the fuck up about how great F/Z is and actually play the VN to completion you would know why.
Let's see if I'm wrong on any points here
>Shirou is an anime character
>Shirou goes to highschool (before/after the war, we know he skips some days in between)
>Shirou has special powers
>anons face when it's all slice of life
>>midget Assassin making people explode
That hassan's zabaniya made me chuckle, Brain bullet is literally the most creative way to assassinate someone.
Well, truth be told, I really did fucking learn to hate Shirous kitchen, and I fully expect there to be more of it in Hollow Ataraxia, but I'm not a person who can't adapt to other genres.
>Shirou Kotomine being ruler class
That just in Apocrypha's world. Nasu confirmed that Ruler class is exclusive class in Apocrypha and in original timeline under normal circumstances isn't present.
>survivor's guilt out the ass
>literally lacks the drive for selfishness
>has been mutilating and torturing himself daily for 8 years
>hangs out with Yakuza and fixes/tunes up their motorcycles for cash
>works in a liqueur store despite being underage
Ah, okay, I'll fix that then.
>Shirou is a Visual Novel character
>Shirou goes to highschool (before/after the war, we know he skips some days in between)
>Shirou has special powers
Still, how is this not generic? He also has
1. A dark&edgy past
2. An edgy dark side he must not show anyone
3. Is able to ignore mortal wounds by merely "wanting to protect something", even after losing Avalon.
>Let's see if I'm wrong on any points here
>>Shirou is an anime character
He's a VN character
>Shirou goes to highschool (before/after the war, we know he skips some days in between)
Are you saying that any character who goes/went to high school is automatically a "generic high school character"?
Are you fucking retarded
>Shirou has special powers
So having special powers makes you a generic high schooler no matter the nature and acquisition of said powers?
Yet, secondaries wonder why we shit on them, they are functionally retarded.
is it bad that I like DEEN's Rin more than UFO's?
She just looks god awful in this remake
You should totally check out Shirou's cooking manga, where his parents never died.
The combination of the three makes them the generic highschool character, not that you "non-secondaries" could understand multiple things combining to form a big whole, that's way over your little head, don't worry, math starts slow for everyone, even you!
So if he doesn't have super powers, then he's not generic?
I don't get it.
Also, most high school students don't spend their entire evenings just fixing and cleaning up after other people because they were asked.
>Getting real sick of your shit Archer
Here's the official rating of which shots are better.
>You people who know the whole story and understand the nuances of a complicated characters are really the ones who are retarded and its us who judge him before his development that are enlightened!
Your next words will be: "I was only pretending to be retarded!"
What are you doing? This is a step away from *action* shit. Stop it.
Complicated does not equal good, you doofus. A character is a good character or not is up to your personal opinion, you know, the thing that makes you like shit? You like something 'cause you just feel like you like it. Then again, maybe you like a character if it's complex, that's good for you. I like a character if he's a good fucking character. Needs a bit more than complexity.
In before "he doesn't like complex characters!In which case, read my post again.
When heroic spirits are summoned they receive basic information about the age they're summoned in. Blowjobs are obviously a crucial aspect of today's society, so it's obvious Saber-chan would know how to perform royal bjs
DEEN's necklace looks terrible, how can you rank it better? You can't even make out the cross and the bright glare but dim crystal looks hideous. It's supposed to be magic and seem like it's glowing of its own accord, like the ufotable one accomplishes.
It seems that in addition to be functionally retarded you are illiterate. You aregued that Shirou was a "generic high schooler" and we informed you that he was a complex character. This has absolutely nothing to do with quality and everything to do with you assuming shit and being dead wrong.
Fuck no. DEEN/Takeuchi's old Rin models were MUCH better.
I'd actually say equal. If ufotable wins, it's barely.
Agreed. but Saber's face looks a bit derp.
Agreed again. ufotable's rendition isn't as faithful to the VN and is full of shitty CG again.
>Ride through the storm, see the knights fighting evil and crime
>A modern day team of heroes in medieval times
>Arthur and the Knights of Justice, putting evil down
>Ride through the storm with the knights of the table ’round >Come on, come on
>King Arthur ride
Try harder if your span of anime only lasts 5 years.
>Irrelevant, he's edgy. Just as edgy as Kiritsugu, if not more.
I have no reaction face appropriate for this.
That's got nothing to do with Archer though, just Se.Ra.Ph. being hospitable.
>Living in the castle while hiding her gender was an endless string of stressful situations. The matter of producing an heir was particularly troublesome, but it seems that she managed to get by without any problems thanks to Merlin's sorcery. In the story, when she said that "she knows how to please a man", she was speaking from actual experience.
>It's supposed to be magic and seem like it's glowing of its own accord
I don't remember exactly, was this shot before or after Rin used it up? Because if it's the latter I can see why DEEN might have chosen to do it that way.
> Being a good character makes a character a good character.
What the one you're replying to is trying to say is that you don't know much about Shirou's character as you've only read the first route.
I'm going to need more than that.
Not being able to work past a fire seems less edgy to me than a zombie apocalypse (caused by your dad) that leads to you being trained by a literal assassin. Beyond that, the two are pretty much the same character, that have different ideas about what it means to save people.
>I like star wars
>I watched episodes 1-3 first
>you should watch it like this, episodes 4-6 spoil stuff about anakin's future
>Why are episodes 1-3 so much better?
People will always be retarded
Is there even any reason to watch this if I've already read it? This thread is proof enough that all sequential threads will be shit with F/Z babbies
>shiro is THE edgemaster
In these sheets I rated the complete scenes including the design, lighting and composition.
The design of Rin might be better from DEEN, but the whole scene looks better on the right. Even if the scenes are unrelated.
The scene where Saber first appears is better from Ufotable because it reads better. DEEN fucked it up with too much lens flare and blurry shit.
The necklace is rated better because it's placed more dynamically into the scene. It has a more dynamic perspective going on while Ufotable just has a straight look onto it.
There's nothing in the VN that indicates it stops glowing, ever. It's always the same bright CG.
What it does do is become lighter.
>The design of Rin might be better from DEEN, but the whole scene looks better on the right. Even if the scenes are unrelated.
I suppose that's because of the difference in budgeting.
>The necklace is rated better because it's placed more dynamically into the scene. It has a more dynamic perspective going on while Ufotable just has a straight look onto it.
The "dynamic perspective" is idiotic when it's covered by a hideous glare and doesn't stand out very well. The ufotable one catches the eye properly having the jewel be highlighted, and again, you can make out the actual details of the pendant instead of SHINY METAL GLARE.
Is there any Fate Anime where the characters have the same Seiyuu as in the VN?
Will the new series have them? I love all the voice actors from the VN. Beside Sakura who always sounds like she's trying too hard to sound weak.
I wonder how varied the other new character scenes are going to be. There's no way it'd be like Zero without having been written that way in the first place, but hopefully they give us different perspectives from the first episode instead of treating us as clueless as Shirou seeing as that isn't really necessary with probably 85% of the viewers coming in from Zero in the first place.
Only AS, which was linear. S1 was pretty forgettable if not outright shit.
Admittedly didn't watch.
Once again, not nearly as good as the VN.
I don't see what's bad about the glare. I can see the cross and details just fine. Are you blind?
Literally every single one. As far as I can tell they have never used alternate voice actors in anything, from games to drama cds.
And Sakura's seiyuu said she wasn't fully into the role at the time, she got better by Fate/Extra CCC.
So, who else is gonna stop coming to these threads entirely once it starts airing?
>I don't see what's bad about the glare. I can see the cross and details just fine. Are you blind?
I can only make out the cross if I lean forward and deeply inspect the still image. I'd never be able to tell at a glance.
Except the gleam on the metal setting of the gemstone is what I'm talking about, not the chain.
The ufotable one meanwhile has none of these issues. It is unquestionably the more fitting image.
>I can only make out the cross if I lean forward and deeply inspect the still image
I don't even know what to say to that.
Not as good as the VN. If you watched the anime first (just like F/SN), you might feel otherwise. I felt it was pretty lacking. Only SN or linear VNs make for good adaptions.
>Kirei and Ilya sound kinda different in DEENs movie
That's because the DEEN movie had shitty directing.
>Also in Carnival Phantasm I don't remember anyone sounding like in the VN
Nobody was trying to sound like themselves in Carnival Phantasm. It's lighthearted comedy.
Definitely all the same actors though.
what's the difference between original f/sn and realta nua?
Ufotable's just looks boring. It looks so boring I can't even look at it 3 second without getting anxious. The left one on the other hand is nice and intriguing, you really want to grab into the screen and get that nicely placed gem. I don't get you. Do you like boring things so much?
I am baffled by you in turn, because the DEEN one is just laying there while the ufotable one is face-on with the camera and looks mysterious and eye-catching.
The DEEN one looks literally like jewelry and not the magic artefact that it is.
Finished the Novel today, was epic. I dont regret watching fate zero first at all, it was cool to peace together those little spoilers from it, is it wrong that i wanna see sparks liner high animated (ufo should give us ovas of all bad ends). My thirst for more Fsn continues though, should i watch the ubw movie and the anime or nah.
Nah I agree with him, the DEEN one is positioned much better. Dynamic angles are a fundamental of art, and ufotable's looks flat. You can see it in their Rin design as well - she looks flat and bland.
>mysterious and eye-catching
No, the plain orthographic view makes it look like some image out of a (fake) jewelery pamphlet which you find in your mailbox and throw it away instantly by just seeing how bad it's layouted. You don't feel the action. Besides that, the jewel is out of energy anyways, so that over saturated red glow makes you think it's so full of energy that it's already annoying.
maybe the ubw movie, anime is bad.. so you'll get minimal enjoyment. The movie was made specifically to animate the fight scenes for VN readers.. but the upcoming tv adaptation is UBW so ufotable will probably make Deen's movie irrelevant.
There's caps of quality in Deen's UBW but budget should have been higher than tv anime.
>I don't give a fuck about your "dynamic angles"
Then you can't appreciate good art and scenery. Sorry.
>Looks like ass
I honestly think you're just blind or extremely near sighted:
>>I can only make out the cross if I lean forward and deeply inspect the still image
Am I right in assuming that the land of the rising sun wants to see it too and not just us gaijin? If they are then I think there's a pretty good chance of getting it as a BD special or something.
What doesn't make sense about them?
Saber sex -> Circuit transfer with a representation of her own circuits and sleeping next to each other to better charge themselves
Rin sex -> Magic Crest transfer to establish the connection and Rider just drinking his blood outright
Sakura sex -> Blood instead of semen to get energy for the worms
Sex would have been a lot easier than losing circuits and a crest, but it doesn't create any real problems otherwise.
>"You don't feel the action"
Your argument sounds like a high school drama student's. It looks terrible.
>the jewel is out of energy anyways
Except it's literally a critical plot point that it is not.
What a good argument, I am so convinced that it looks better now.
Except it still looks like a dull, lifeless bit of jewelry and not a very important magical item that changes the entire plot around later.
Thank god I got over FSN fanwanking stage years ago. Now all of you plebeians seem like small ants arguing over trifles. But do not mind me, for I am merely someone who has reached enlightenment that anyone could get with enough effort. I think that the discussions in these threads are quite satisfying in the sense of a comedy
I bet you are one of these fags who like shitty and flat modern art over a gorgeous, skillful old master painting by Sargent.
>Except it's literally a critical plot point that it is not.
But it is. Tohsaka used it to revive Shirou.
Im not sure what you mean, could you explain further?
>But it is. Tohsaka used it to revive Shirou.
And it's clearly noted three times in the narrative that it still has some magical energy in it.
This causes an alert when the gemstone with absolutely no magical energy in it shows up in Tohsaka's possession, when she's already noted that it had magical energy and she left it at the school.
Dickworms being confirmed in F/Z but edgeworms in RN.
>hollywood F/Z adaptation or HF anime
>Great Grail appears
I just got the VN and it's a total different experience
the anime goes to fast but with the VN I get to feel all the datails
I've been reading like for 2 weeks and I'm still in episode 1 of anime
Why all these threads just secondaries vs The so called Elites, cant we all just get along and kindly explain to others the joy of the vn?
Are different "routes" a common thing in Visual Novels? I have never read(?)/played(?) one and people say that VNs are so much better than their adaptions (due to being the original content which I agree with).
But those different routes really turn me off.
Like the story is told in ego-perspective and there are decisions to make for the reader?
I like to sit back and enjoy the story or hate it for what it is, for what the author intended. The moment some button pops up and asks ME what to do really kills it. I would choose what I think the person who actually has to make the decision would do. In that regard the author might aswell just give me correct answer instead of making the think.
Or are these decisions just "what if" scenarios?
Like: Oh no he got killed, but how would the story be if he would still be alive? If so which route is the canon one? The original, the from the author intended one? I would see that as aditional info or lore.
So basically, do Visual Novels generally have routes or do only some have them like the Fate ones?
>Hollywood F/Z Adaption
>not generic dubstep
Maybe it has a bit left, but clearly not enough to make it glowing. It didn't glow in the VN as well.
But anyway... Let's just forget about who's right and who not and let's find a common and say the left one is better okay?
secondaries are shit. They get their information from other secondaries and incorrect wiki entries, then try to argue it as fact. They know the VN exists, they know it's better, but they don't bother because of stupid excuses like "waah sex scenes" or "its too long!"
have you ever read a choose your own adventure book in your life?
yes most VN's have routes some of them have more or less extraneous choices or do more with the choices presented to you but routes are in nearly every vn
I'm not saying you're a newfag but you seem to have no experience about jrpgs
routes are a comming and old thing in novels and games, the user makes the path according to its actions in other words gives you more the feeling of being the mc and the author creates the paths according to the logic of the plot
Wait, there was sex in my fate? i really should look at the VN. whats wrong with me?
So glad turkeyhandle never got an anime, so no secondaries to ruin it.
DEEN a shit, ufotable a okay.
Literally every time the pendant came up, it only ever showed this CG, which is vibrant and bright, even for the pendant with no magical energy in it whatsoever.
No it must because I don't read much time, perhaps 30 mins per day and also I take a time to connect things and try to figure out details, like how archer gave to rin another pendant
>no music to aid immersion
>no imagery to aid immersion
>no sounds to aid immersion
Now I'm not saying books are bad, or VNs have ever had authors on the level of Alexandre Dumas or Miguel de Cervantes, but as a format VNs are unquestionably a superior construction. It's just a matter of time for an actually good author to make a perfect VN, and even as it is it can allow lesser authors to make amazingly enjoyable stories despite very mediocre writing.
Gotta remember that books have had hundreds of years on computers so far.
Some choices only give you different scenes, like whether you stay and help at school or go to work. In the end it don't matter which you pick for progression purposes.
Others lead to a dead end rather quickly.
Lastly there are the affection flags for the girls where you need to have enough of them triggered by a certain point in the VN or you get a dead end.
Do people just not lurk at all anymore?
Go read the VN now faggot, quit talking bullshit about a Tsukihime anime.
Okay maybe I'm not an autist who can remember every pixel of an image after seeing it a few seconds, but the fact that DEENs pendant shot is put better into scene than Ufotable's is undeniable.
Barely. And it's still drawn worse. And poorly represents the content it is meant to.
It might be a superior standalone image, but it is unquestionably inferior as a representation of what it is meant to be.
Simple, there are secondaries who come to the threads asking questions and seeking information and then there's secondaries who insist that Shirou is a generic high schooler and that F/Z is the best thing since breast-milk.
Guess which one gets shat on?
>then again im not here 24/7
Sort of, almost, not exactly though.
"Getting to play it" adds another dimension of interaction that can be done fantastically or utterly horribly.
I would say the perfect game is objectively better than the perfect book, but at the same time crafting a perfect game is a much more monumental task due to the added dimension of gameplay.
>the content it is meant to
It's meant to represent a pendant which just used up most of its magical energy. So now look at both images again. Which do you think looks more like that?
If you wanted more, all you had to do was ask, anon.
I don't actually have any more than this, though.
I do have played JRPGs before and I enjoyed them. But I have to confess that as I grew older I started to be less interested in them, mostly due to the heavy storytelling heh...
Thanks for the info. Guess Visual Novels aren't for me. Maybe I will give them a try at some point anyway and see if I like them nevertheless.
Honestly I think the worst part about this whole secondary nonsense is retards like you who think they are smart for knowing obvious knowledge.
The only people who don't understand that shit are baiters. You acting like you're superior to those plebs just show that you probably finished reading the VN an hour ago.
this fanbase is fucking horrible
every supposed secondary that posts in these threads are baiting all of you. out of any fanbase, you guys are the most retard ones for falling for the exact same fucking shit every single time without fail.
So is historys biggest butthurt Tsukihime fans about the tsukihime anime, they dont make medicine for that level of depression do they? Imma read this then watch anime to understand the butthurt lol
hey guys i never watch fate stuff before and i wonder if fate is good??/ i was thinking of watching fate/zero first since people say it is amazing an better than fate/stay night. but the new adaptation come out? will it be good? i don't read vns cause they are shit... but fate/zero ro fate stay night the anime?? which one first??
>I hear since Ataraxia goes with Heaven's Feel being the canon one
No I'm playing it right now and it's an alternate dimension that
has all the old servants and masters still living, including Zouken, but Kotomine's still dead while Gil is now a shota, and Caren, Bazett and Avenger are introduced formally The new story layout is also boring as fuck
Most mods here don't even watch anime. Moot is an apathetic normalfag that has a SJW girlfriend and he barely watches anime too. Two of the new mods he hired are Reddit mods too.
I don't think they're as complex as you
think they are. The three routes of FSN all diverge off a simple choice Shirou makes at the beginning. After that the story is pretty linear, you just have to choose the right things so you don't end up dead to make it to the ending. I'd just use a walkthrough to experience the story.
It's just Bazett's wet dream really.
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There's a difference between Worship of Gaia concepts that have broken off and gained an ego, like divine spirits. Divine Spirits are after all diefications of Earth ideals given power through worship.
And the other kami guy is on another level, closer to an Aristotle since it needs no humans and doesn't give a fuck. Divine Spirits are created by humans sorta(even if they were something else before that) so they are naturally interested in humans, while the perfect being type is something else entirely.
I think that's what he meant
Although in the Mooncell all divine spirits become truth, so even if they were considered just a piece of gaia given power and ego through worship outside of it(I say "Just", but that's far more high tier than people realize even so. People often discredit them because of Arc, but they don't realize Divine types are still a big deal even outside Mooncell), inside of it you literally become the envoy of the Sun. They become truth in the Mooncell above all Natural occurrence.
I like how everyone are bashing the guy when most likely 80% of the people here watched fate zero or the deen adaptation first, 15% read the VN first just in the last couple of years when it was already Naruto level of popular, so that doesn't fucking count.
So stop with the pretentious act unless you're from the tiny fucking percent that read the VN when it was being translated.
>hardly any oldfags left
>lets all just give in to degeneracy
How funny, I actually read the F/SN VN a couple years before F/Z even got an anime. Unfortunately DEEN F/SN pissed me off so much I ended up buying and reading the VN in moon halfway through my Japanese Classes.
I'm so fucking mad holy shit. Come secondaries, eat this trash.
But thats wrong. FSN VN was probably most popular in the lead up to FZ anime, and almost everyone talking about it at least made the effort to read it even if they were relatively new. Now though it seems like everyone wants to talk about TM but not read anything.
I started Fate with DEEN anime back when it aired, well before there was a translation and well before I could read moon even if I had the desire to read, what I considered at the time 'gross porn games.' I think a lot of another /a/nons are in the same boat as me when it comes to first exposure to Nasuverse, and Fate in particular.
Yeah, but /a/ isn't really a good representation of what's really popular.
Not so much as it was years ago. I'd call Muv Luv and Craptawa Shoujo more entry level at this point.
Well, time to rev up the slut mobile.
There's only one true semen demon, if you don't count Natalia and her succubus family.
Natalia? It was noted she got stronger from semen, but she never drank Kiritsugu's anyway.
I don't think Fate Zero Saber is drastically different from Stay Night's Saber. Yeah, she was less moe in Zero, but that's because she had a master who she hated and didn't understand. Kiritsugu treated her as a weapon, and she acted as one. Shirou wasn't dead inside like Kiritsugu, and wanted to be her friend, so she was kind in return.
It's almost like people act different depending on how you treat them :O