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One page thread, why do all the good gender bender manga end so quickly edition
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>>113296176
Isn't Mari just fucked in the head?
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>>113296260
Probably, who knows? I just felt like starting with a theme and it fit vaguely.
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>>113296331
Speaking of the theme, I'm now tapped so just regular OPT from here on out
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>>113295746
Probably a combination of it being a niche genre and there not being that many things one can do with the core concept.
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>>113295827
It ended quite lamely. Should have added more ecchi stuff.
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>>113297146
Still depressing that they seem to dwindle off and get axed all the time, despite other equally ridiculous shit running for a million years.
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>>113297351
At least there them of the MC falling in love with a guy seems to have appeared more frequently in recent manga.
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>>113295926
I really like this one.
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tfw when no one posts gender bender master Ryuta...
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>>113297524
Yea true enough
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Deliquent transformed.
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>>113297665
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>>113297581
a picture for ants?
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>>113297707
>>113297665
one shot?
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>>113297146
>there not being that many things one can do with the core concept
Tell me about it. Read one gender bender, you've read 90% of them. I wish someone would try to do something different. Well, Mari no Naka seemed like it was going a "realistic" direction but the realism turned out to be mental illness.
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Yeah, I bet you can guess the author without even checking.
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>>113298002
I dunno there's a few different ways they can go with it, depending on how seriously it's being played, how many people 'know the secret', other setting variances... it's not like there's nowhere to go with it, the shit just gets axed immediately all the time for whatever reason.
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>>113298274
Just because you can fit a bunch of words on the page doesn't mean you should you fucking hack.
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>>113295969
>I didn't have enough parts.
>... I didn't want to hear that.
Gets my sides every time.
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>>113295746
>>113286099
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>>113295746
because no one buys them. that includes you
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>>113297581
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>>113298707
shit I searched the catalog beforehand too, must have missed it
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>>113297638
I AM STILL MAD!!!
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>>113298667
google gives me nothing
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Daisuki
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>>113299423
Aho girl
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>>113299423
Aho Girl. Aho girls are my fetish.
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>>113299476
Sankyu
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>>113299615
thanks
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>>113299615
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The MC in this manga gives me strong Makato vibes, it hurts a bit to read it ;_;
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>>113299615
Source on this one anon? GIS is turning up Gacha Gacha but I don't think that's it. Unless it is?
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>>113297581
>>113297743
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>>113300317
It is not related to Gacha Gacha but Google is kinda right. It is Miniature, an oneshot that came out with Gacha Gacha v13.
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I wish there was less mtf and more ftm.
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>>113300701
sauce? google fails
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>>113299640
>That first panel
Goddamn, this has got to be intentional. I can't believe someone wouldn't laugh to themselves while drawing that.
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>>113300504
I see, thanks! Too bad it's a one shot ;_;
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>>113300932
are you fucking searching the thumbnail or what
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>>113301224
Didn't the author retcon this because people got so mad?
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>>113301490
Oh really. Then motherfucking anon-kun, care to to translate the ching-chong? Even translated the shit doesn't give anything relevant.
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>>113301643
That's what I get from GiS too, unless he's saying it's Log Horizon or Welcome to the NHK idk what he's talking about
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>>113301643
maybe is a fucking manwa faggot
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>>113301643
Copy that shitty text into google translator. It will give you "The stars and the tofu pongko Reiko" which doesn't look right at all obviously, but now throw that into google and you get "Hoshi no Ponko to Toufuya Reiko" And what do you know, that's the series that's in the image. Stop being lazy and expecting immediate gratification and actually make a bit of effort instead of immediately giving up.
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>>113298002
>Tell me about it. Read one gender bender, you've read 90% of them. I wish someone would try to do something different. Well, Mari no Naka seemed like it was going a "realistic" direction but the realism turned out to be mental illness.
that's because it always seems to go like this...

EEEEHHHHH?!!!!
what? i'm a girl/boy
touch chest, maybe grope own chest
if girl to boy pull open trowsers and look nausiated
if boy to girl possibly feel around for missing eq

of course then they will "act" like the body is borrowed from someone and "looking" at their new gender would be peeping. so they do stupid shit like blindfold themselves when taking a shower/bath.

enevitably the transformation is usually temperary and then starts to switch back and forth for comedy.

if its not a comedy manga then the change is usually permanent in some way, but of course no one believes the main character and if they do they treat them like a hentai tranny. meanwhile the plot will ALWAYS revolve around swapping back to their original body.

there is so much more they could do with the idea, but no one wants to break out of the standard plot process.
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>>113302126
what the fuck
who reads all those shitty porn manga, goes through them and categorizes all of that shit and then put's it together into an image so other people can stare in horror at the abomination they have wrought...

Seriously though I'm pretty sure more work went into that image than 90% of the 'manga' it mentions.
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>>113302400
Wait what? Those are hentai manga? And here I thought those ecchi/borderline ones that some kind anon categorised. What the fuck! I want something like this for non-h.
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>>113302126
Is there a nonlewd version
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>>113302400
>Hating Shindol
>Hating the master Amazume Ryuuta
>Hating motherfucking Distance
>Hating Dat Hisasi
>Hating Orimoto
>Hating Aji "Heart Pupils" Ponntarou
Shit tastes indeed.
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WHAT MANGA DOWNLOADER YOU GUYS USE? I'VE BEEN USING DOMDOM BUT ITS BEEN GLITCHY LATELY. FMD IS ALSO HAVING PROBLEMS CONNECTING TO BATOTO.
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>>113302400
I really love all his stuff
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>>113302709
meh I don't hate the manga really, when I said abomination I meant the image showcasing it all, sarcasm doesn't come through too well in text I guess
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Where's the female > male gender bending where the new He whores himself out with all his old female friends? or just goes and bangs all the male ones instead
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>>113303202
If I'm not mistaken there's an eroge where a guy and girl switch bodies and the girl goes to fuck dudes to live out her BL fantasies.
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>>113295877
Some thread earlier this week got me to pick this up. I was really enjoying it but then came the sad news that it was axed ;_;
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>>113300701
Not like you couldn't see it coming but that got real dark real quick huh?
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>>113302114
>there is so much more they could do with the idea

What would you like to see?
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>>113301224
Used goods
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It's quite funny.
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>>113302114
I think you are exaggerating. I think touching the newly acquired goods makes sense; it seems like something that would be the obvious thing to do, so I do not begrudge it.

I think the whole 'getting naked blindfolded' only occurs in bodyswap rather than sex-change stories and while stupid I don't think it's that widespread.

I will agree that most genderbending series involve switching back and forth; probably because it's easier to write gags centered around that; e.g. MC turning back in the ladies room, etc. Still, there are multiple stories where the transformation is permanent. And there are stories where the MC tries keeps the transformation a secret either by disguising herself as a boy (e.g. Boku Girl, Kanojo ni Naru Hi Another, Nozomu Nozomi) or by moning to a new school/neighborhood where everyone assumes she's a real girl (e.g. Asuka Hybrid, BlazBlue Remix Heart, Ichinensei ni Nacchattara, Idol Pretender).

And while the MC might have switching back as a long-term goal, not every plot has to revolve around that. E.g. in all of the aforementioned manga the MC initially wants to switch back, but in most of them it's not something the actively pursue most of they time and many of them eventually abandon it entirely.

One can have a manga where the MC is genderbent but where the story doesn't focus on wacky hijinks revolving around adapting to their new sex of finding acceptance, but then you have people complaining about it not being a real genderbender story. I think that adding additional elements (e.g. Remix Heart at times has the MC go on various adventures or SOL situations with her friends) to the core genderbending story can help lengthen and add variety to such a manga.
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>>113304316
>What would you like to see?
what about a plot with a mc who WANTS to be the other side. His/Her life sucks, and they think it will be better as the other gender... or maybe they're gay and suffering heartbreak...

then magic happens and they're the other gender. you can develop from that point. maybe with a theme that their life sucks because they suck... so nothing gets better. maybe they end up regretting the change. Or in a romance, maybe the change of gender makes it possible to love the person they love.

there is plenty of stuff that exists different from men and women. Plenty of material to build upon. What about a girl who wants to be a baseball player, but being a girl she just physically can't keep up, and no longer can play with the boys? she gets her wish granted and becomes a boy, has to train and overcome the challanges of her new gender, becomes the baseball player she wants to be, and falls in love with one of the guys on the team... only for him to be straight... and it to turn out he was always in love with her BEFORE her change.

there is a lot of material you can work with and i'm not even scratching the surface here.
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>>113302627
Here's a list of genderbending-related non-H manga I've put together:

Bodyswap:
Akane-chan overdrive, Ani ga Imouto de Imouto ga Ani de, Aru Asa Okitara, Beast 9, Danshi-ing Girl, Dou Danjo, Fukushima Metamo Kiss, Futari no Himitsu, Gyakuten Honey, Im Not Spy, My Barbaric Girlfriend, Woman in the Man, Yamada-kun to 7 Nin no Majo
Bizarre:
After School Nightmare, Fire Candy, Kedamono Damono, Raven;od
Delusion:
Boku wa Mari no Naka, Cheeky Angel
Possession:
Alice on Deadlines, Boukun Tyrano-san Taruby, Joshi Shougakusei Hajimemashita, Jun-ai Sensation, Moriyama Daisuke Tanpenshu, No Side, Not Lives, Return, Shut Hell, Urara-chan no Naka no Hito, Yukarism
Transformation:
Adolescence Avatar, Ame Nochi Hare, Asuka Hybrid, BlazBlue Remix Heart, Boku Girl, Boy Meets Girl Girl Meets Boy, Click, Conveni-N, CUTExGUY, Entrans!, Fukigen Cinderella, Futaba-kun Change, Gacha Gacha Secret, Grant My Wish Aizen, Ichinensei ni Nacchattara, Idol Pretender, Kampfer, Kanojo ni Naru Hi, Kanojo ni Naru Hi Another, Kashimashi ~Girl Meets Girl~, Magical Change, Mahou Shounen Majorian, Mahou Zakkaten Vi Via, Mao Marimo, Megu Milk, My Childhood Friend Turned into a Girl, My Father is a Loli, Naisho no Otome Revolver, Night Witch Variable Witch, Nozomu Nozomi, Nyotai-ka, Okitsune-sama de Chu, Ore to Hero, Ore Twin-Tail ni Narimasu, Otome no Iroha, Oyajina!, Ranma, Sai Taker Futari no Artemis, Saikyou mahou shoujo Akira, Seijou Kouchakan no Jijou, Sekainohate de Aimashou, Shonen Linda, Tayutama - Kiss on My Deity, Tomodachi Kara Yoroshiku Desu, Tsukiyo no Fromage
Surgery:
Artificial Maiden, Balance Policy, Blue Drop, Boku No Shotaiken, Haikyo Circle, Kakumei no Hi, Panikuru Iko-san, Pretty Face, Strange Mansion, Vampire Doll
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>>113302627
There's also this image.
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>>113306642
the sound of my backlog suddenly expanding rapidly ;_;

I have work tonight damn you I don't have time for this!

Thanks for posting this list anon
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>>113306943
Here's also an image with MC's that get turned into girls. Note that this includes one-shot transformations in longer manga rather than just stories focusing on genderbending.
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>>113295926
>>113297569
New translations when
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>whining about lack of good gender bender manga
>no one posted Ame Nochi Hare
Y'all motherfuckers need shoujo.

Oh wait, I forgot, you don't want a good story and developed characters, you just want something that panders to your fetishes. Never mind, carry on.
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>>113307456
Updates when?
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i win
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>>113307456
I like reading stuff that panders to my tastes and doesn't look like shit, it's a bonus if it has a good story.
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>>113306436
Jun in the Happiness OVA was ecstatic about turning into a girl.

Transmigration Girl had one chapter where the MC turn into a girl and enjoyed it because she went went from a boy that was bullied and who nobody gave a shit about, to a girl who literally everyone wanted. It was a stupid over the top wish fulfillment fantasy.
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By the way, a new chapter of Fukigen Cinderella got released today.

http://kaitozero.wordpress.com/
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>>113307716
>mangafox
>winning
pick either
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>>113306642
Here's another bodyswap one:
http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/shishunki-bitter-change-r10848
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>>113295746
>gender bender
>good
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>>113308530
Could you imagine if this were actually true? Sometimes I'm glad fiction is just fiction.
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>>113308672
Stories where the MC turns female, gradually adapts to living as a girl and eventually falls in love with a boy are best.
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>>113308782
only if you're really fucking gay
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>>113308683
Just riding his wild ride is fine, but having Mr. Bones inside you all the time is just too much even for fiction.
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>>113308871
It's not gay for a girl to fall in love with a boy.
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>>113308939
What a smooth motherfucker.
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>>113301821
>Hoshi no Ponko to Toufuya Reiko
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>>113308939
I forgot that MC said that. He has good taste.
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>>113308672
I think the one I posted for the OP is pretty good, if short.
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>>113309001
>Don't f*ck with me!
>A mere kiss
A+ scriptwriting. Good job translators.
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>>113309001
Everything involving penises is gay.
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>>113308871
>girls wanting the D
>gay
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>>113308939
That's the one ends really suddenly doesn't it?
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>>113307456
I love Ame Nochi Hare. Too bad it hasn't updated in months.

On a similar note, there's also Kanojo ni Naru Hi Another, which is also a bit more serious and character-driven than your average gender bender manga.
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>>113309272
That one*

I can't type I'm tired as shit.
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>>113309272
Better read the LN

Oh wait
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>>113307456
I read this shit and it was shoujou and I didn't see any particular increase in quality.
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>>113309114
Don't understand why you're laughing because that's what it is but okay.
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>>113302126
>>113306942
Isn't there one for girls turning into dudes?
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>>113309817
I've never seen one.

Female to Male stuff is damn rare.
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I just picked up Ran to Haiiro no Sekai the other day mostly because of those threads, and fuck me if it's not one of the best manga I've ever read.

I just got to the point where... Ran falls asleep for a month, you know when, and I just had to take a break for a bit.

If there's anyone left who hasn't read it yet, go do it now.

Just don't make the same mistake as me and read the comments on mangaupdates, if not for the moronic self-righteous moral crusaders there who can't pay attention to how the characters are actually portrayed to spare their lives I'd have picked it up a long time ago, and I deeply regret I didn't.

Posting a random page because no matter which one of the good ones I'd choose, it still wouldn't give you any idea how good it really is.
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>>113309208
>>113308871
>>113309001
That's why I want ftm genderbender. Then it's either straight or lesbian sex, nothing ticklish either way.
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>>113311290
Lesbians are gay.
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>>113307456
>Regular gender bender
>Oh no I'm a girl now what should I do!
>Of course I want to be a guy again!
>But...
>They proceed to grope themselves
>Maybe this isn't so bad
>Ehhh I love my childhood friend!?
>I can't stand this feeling!
>Shoujo gender bender
>Shit, I'm a girl now
>This sucks but I'll put up with it
>But...
>Hanging out with girls isn't so bad
>Except the ones that are bitches, fuck them
>Maybe this isn't so bad
>Doki doki... what's this feeling... for a guy...?
>B-being a girl sucks, I hate this!

It's pretty much the same thing, framed slightly different
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>>113311813
>>Ehhh I love my childhood friend!?
>In shounen
Riiight
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>>113311813
Or maybe, you know, actually read that manga instead of spouting shit without knowing what you're talking about.
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>>113295746
Because good manga is usually short and that's one of the parts that makes them good.
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>>113312198
But the one OP posted ended out of the blue.

The ending didn't even feel like one.
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;_;
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>>113312404
I'm not impliing that all short manga good.
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>>113312616
Don't remind me. Fucking japs with shittaste.
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>>113312657
Wow, that's some unattractive art.
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>>113311431
N-no, they're pure.

I could also go for mtf if the MC maintained his sexual orientation.
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>>113311813
It's much better when the doki doki is for a girl.
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>>113313022
unfortunately it seems turning a straight guy into a girl makes him crave dicks.
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>>113313147
I think this is one of the things that bores me the most about gender bender. It's always this reluctant bullshit "w-w-why is my heart beating for [male acquaintance]?! I like g-girls!"
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>>113309817
You're lucky
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>>113313276
Too bad this one's shit.
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>>113308363
cute
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>>113313276
This is super gay.
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>>113313529
Did you read all the translated chapters?

>>113314484
It's fine, they are girls on the inside!
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>>113314671
BOTH of them?
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>>113310858
Of all the better examples you could have chosen...
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>>113314785
Yes
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>>113314802
Like I said, none of the pages really do the justice for the manga as a whole.

Also, it's not like yours is any better for someone who hasn't read it, I just didn't want to post the usual ones with Ran's brother and Sango that people always post.
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>>113314913
I love this one, it's like Tonari no Seki-kun but good.
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>>113312616
Another generic shounen that got trashed?
Oh noes~
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>>113309817
There are a few manga where a female MC turns into a man. E.g. CUTExGUY, Oyajina and Tomodachi Kara Yoroshiku Desu. Bodyswapping from the girl's perspective includes Danshi-ing Girl and Dou Danjo.
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>>113316257
>If you look carefully it's a boy's face
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Smooth motherfucker.
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>>113316547
Race bender?
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>>113316547
Is that the manga about a t-rex who swaps places with a cute girl?
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>>113316935
His soul possesses her body.
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>>113296446
>Speaking of the theme, I'm now tapped so just regular OPT from here on out
How is this one genderbender?
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>Nisio
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>>113317162
Weird. T-Rex has no soul. Animals without sentience have no soul.
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>>113317231
That one was shit though
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>>113317255
And your proof is...?
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>>113317261
If the guy died it would have been better.
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>>113317300
just read the bible kid ffs
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>>113317300
I didn't see a zoo in heaven last time I checked.
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>>113317255
That T-rex was sentient.

>>113317231
That was pretty bad. A stereotypical bodyswap story with a ultra-saccharine ending. Wasn't NisiOisiN supposed to be a good author?
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>>113315495
Can they see their pantsu from down there?
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>>113314913
I love girl bullies
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>>113317401
That wasn't no T-Rex. That was one giant velociraptor, if you ask me.
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>>113317511
Then why was he called a t-rex? Was it a mistake by the author? Honestly I don't think I can appreciate genderswap manga anymore if the authors are too lazy to research whether they're drawing a T-rex or a giant velociraptor, it makes me lose faith in the genre.
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>>113317300
There's no proof that animals have souls , therefor it doesn't exist.
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>>113317401
Why are Japanese males so scared of the female anatomy.
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What happened to that manga where the guy turned into the girl he used to stalk(Mari-san something, I think it was called?).
I stopped reading because of lack of translation, did it ever get anywhere?
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>no-one posted this
Seriously?
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>>113317900
CR is translating it, so I guess translation is guaranteed.

I stopped reading once they got it but I'll read it eventually.
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>>113313272
Why is that? Having the MC become attracted to the now opposite sex is a pretty good way of showing that she has fully turned into a girl and making the character herself realize that fact.

>>113313147
Kashimashi and Tsukiyo no Fromage have genderbent yuri. Most manga where the MC can switch forms also almost universally have the MC only be attracted to women (the sole exceptions I'm aware of are Fukigen Cinderella and Nyotai-Ka.)
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>>113317984
They don't need to fall in love with a man to show that they've fully turned into a girl. They're perfectly able to keep their sexuality while dealing with the ramifications of now being in a female body.
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>>113316333
>No eyelashes
Yep, that's a boy.
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>>113318102
Sexuality is a pretty major part of one's self-identity. If a character's sexuality changes as a result of the transformation, then telling themselves that they're simply a man trapped in a girl's body becomes much less tenable.
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>>113317984
But I don't want them to switch back and forth. Just to turn into a girl and embrace the inner lesbian.
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>>113317423
No, they're not wearing skirts
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>>113318239
And again, they don't need to change it for them to embrace themselves as a girl if that's the point of it. There's no reason for them to not fall in love with a woman. They're not a new person, they're just in a female body.
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>>113317255
Humans don't have souls too, kiddo. Souls do not exist.
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So why did Fukigen Cinderella cancelled? Too much sidestory bullshit?
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>>113318481
If a character's body is turned female though, the same must occur to her brain as well (since a female body needs a female brain to function properly). Therefore it makes sense for the character's preferences to shift, since sexual attraction relies on one's brain structure and hormones.

I suppose that an exclusive attraction to women could be justified by saying that the character ended up with a lesbian brain, but if the character got a heterosexual female brain, then it would make sense for her to be attracted to men.
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>>113318794
>If a character's body is turned female though, the same must occur to her brain as well (since a female body needs a female brain to function properly). Therefore it makes sense for the character's preferences to shift, since sexual attraction relies on one's brain structure and hormones.
>I suppose that an exclusive attraction to women could be justified by saying that the character ended up with a lesbian brain, but if the character got a heterosexual female brain, then it would make sense for her to be attracted to men.
That depends on the rules on which the change happens though.
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>>113318794
It wasn't the series' fault. The magazine it was published in simply shut down.
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>>113318850
>It wasn't the series' fault. The magazine it was published in simply shut down.
So they cannot be picked up?
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>>113318906
It can be in theory, but its hard for a magazine to pick a series halfway through unless its very popular, since its regular readers won't know what's going on.
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>>113319002
>It can be in theory, but its hard for a magazine to pick a series halfway through unless its very popular, since its regular readers won't know what's going on.
Meaning Himegoto (ok, trap manga but still) was outstandingly popular?
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>>113318842
Well yes. But if we go with biological facts, then a character getting a normal female brain would be expected to evidence attraction to men. As I said that could be sidestepped if one wanted to by saying that the character got a lesbian brain instead.

For series with a Cartesian approach to the mind, you could say that the mind itself was affected. E.g. in Remix Heart, a character that had the ability to analyze souls had said that the MC's soul itself was turning female.

>>113319058
4komas don't exactly have a long-running story or much of a plot. Fukigen Cinderella did.
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>>113319288
>4komas don't exactly have a long-running story or much of a plot. Fukigen Cinderella did.
There are other examples like Nana To Kaoru but yeah, it's not going to change the fact Fukigen probably didn't have enough popularity to warrant it (nor did they exepct the magazine to suddenly die)
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>>113306642
http://youtu.be/ZmBo3I4pILs?t=6s god bless you
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>>113319288
If both mind and body turn into female, they they are just females.

The appeal of gender bender is the conflict between a male mind in a female body.
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>>113319692
That's why I like mtf yuri shit. It's like "oh no I'm a girl now but I still like girls how do I deal with this shit"
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>>113295746
Did it end there? I wanted to see more of the futa Imouto
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>>113319692
Personally I think that following the transition as the character gradually changes to adapt in their life as a girl and ends up awkwardly confronting new feelings they did not previously have is interesting. It's the journey, not the destination. If the character doesn't change at all, it's the equivalent of just having a disguise on.

>>113319859
The imouto was a boy, not a futa.
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>>113319692
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1waEIvSepy6
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>>113319967
Still being attracted to women doesn't mean they're not changing at all, you know.
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Is there a gender bender that has a gay endinge?
Like a dude turns into a girl, does girl shit, falls in love with best friend (wow, so original) does other gender bender shit but when he turns back end up with the friend?

Also is the OPT specific for gender bender or can we post other pages?
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>>113320009
Sure. Though sexuality is a pretty obvious and major difference that would have a strong impact on a character's gender identity after such a transformation.

From what I've read of Asuka Hybrid, the MC stays attracted to women but ends up loving to wear girls' clothes and becomes more emotive. I guess this could be seen as changes that don't rely on sexuality.

One series that handled it terribly was Kashimashi as the MC immediately adapted to her new form and didn't appear to mentally change at all, had no internal conflicts about her transformation, and everyone around her immediately accepted it.
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>>113320288
Keep em coming
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>>113320288
I'm not aware of any such endings. I don't think people want to see male homosexual endings in these stories. Even in eroge, where you have lesbian and straight (with the MC either as a male or female) endings, you don't see any gay endings. The closest thing Ive seen to a gay end was in My Barbaric Girlfriend, where the MC and a girl bodyswap and then fall on love with a boy and a girl respectively but in the end they accidentally switch back. The MC realizes he's still in love with the boy and the same thing happens to the girl, so they decide to find a way to bodyswap again so that they can be with the people they love.
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>>113320509
I don't have many. I had a folder on my desktop in which I saved all the pages I found interesting enough to share but recently my HDD died so I lost all of it.

>>113320531
That's sad.
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>>113320288
Hourou Musuko has a gay ending, not really like how you described though
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>>113320713
That's not genderswap though.
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>>113320713
Wandering Son doesn't have any magical transformations though. The MC simply has gender dysphoria.
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>>113319692
>The appeal of gender bender is
Fetishes in general are a very subjective matter and the main appeal of a fetish can vary vastly from person to person.

There's really no sense in arguing about stuff like that.
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>>113320713
Hourou Musuko is about transsexualism, not gender bending.
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>>113320713
The example I gave was just an example. The main point is gender bender with a gay ending.
Doesn't even need to be 100% gay, just that the guy gets back into his body and acknowledges his feeling he has towards another guy.
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>>113296331
Also happen to be what?
I must know!
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>>113320904
>>113320927
>>113321021
Is gender bending just exclusively magical fetishy stuff then?
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>>113321079
Now that I can get behind.
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>>113321079
One ending of X-Change Alternative 2 in which the MC bodyswaps with a girl, falls in love with his best friend and then switches back has him realize that he still loves his friend. Of course his feelings remain unrequited in that end.
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>>113321308
Thanks, I will check it out. Sounds interesting.
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>>113317922
why wont they make official ln or manga with kyonko or any other genderbend character is beyond me. its immensely popular.
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>>113321223
If someone wanted to write a completely serious story about issuers surrounding gender identity, then throwing in magical transformations probably isn't the way to go. Still, not every genderbender story is simply fanservice. There is variation in the level of seriousness and introspection with which the characters treat their condition.
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>>113321610
But you can have that with the magical girl change too.
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>>113298326
yeah but he's going to do it anyway and you can't stop him.
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>>113322120
It's not a gender bender manga then. It's just a manga about a transsexual.
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>>113322120
>>113323200
My bad, I thought you said withOUT the magical girl change.
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This thread is nice.
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>>113300701
> Drama ; horror ; sci fi ; seinen ; supernatural ; tragedy

welp
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>>113298274
damn it Nisio Isin
>>113300701
that was Impressively dark for its cover
>>113323531
yeah anon I know
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>>113311946
>what is boku girl?
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>>113309579
Just go to the translator's blog, fuck:
http://krytykal.org/
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>>113300701
is there more of this I want to know what happens next
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>>113308939
Best taste.
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>>113312657
I could watch Tigre solving disputes all day long.
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>>113301224
did she really get raped
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>>113321610
>If someone wanted to write a completely serious story about issuers surrounding gender identity, then throwing in magical transformations probably isn't the way to go.

I dunno, I'd read a story that took the magical gender change concept and played it completely seriously, using it to explore gender issues and subvert/deconstruct gender bender cliches.

I'm probably in the minority here, though.
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>>113325098
Nah I'd read that too. I feel like there is one but I can't remember what it is.
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So anon, do you agree with Reina?
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>>113326355
Absolutely.
Especially the manically depressed and depraved kind.
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>>113326760
How depressed and depraved, anon?
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