Being Kaneki is suffering.
You aren't one of our usual tl/ts anons are you? Your punctuation is all out of whack, your translation ignores everything we went through in yesterday's thread, etcetc.
You even left bubbles empty because you cleaned sfx but didn't translate them into English.
He isn't saying V14 in the last bubble. He says "14" but is referring to what he's doing or about to do. Image related.
Would you be saying coherent things if you got stabbed through the brain?
I thought about this before but kept forgetting to discuss it ever in a thread but:
Going way back to that white gate that detects ghouls via abnormal RC cell counts, would Kaneki as he his now still pass it since he's a halfie or would his insane ghoul diet jacked body sound the siren now?
>minus the severe lack of periods
This is a big deal. This has to be one of the most common and crippling mistakes new comic translators make when they don't understand that translation doesn't mean transliteration. What a shame.
The periods were left out on purpose because he's just shitting out of his mouth nonstop. Periods represent breaks in speech and the end of coherent sentences, and there really weren't any of either here.
To clarify, it's a double meaning with the honey shit from earlier. It can mean melt, but it also also mean 'fascinated/enchanted/charmed/etc', from Arima's stupid beauty or the poem and what not.
I hope you're joking you dumb nigger.
I genuinely do.
Read your own work over again and ask yourself if this would fly in a real professional work. Answer: No, it wouldn't because you're imposing arbitrary made-up rules of grammar on on yourself. Fortunately, grammar isn't dictated by what you think it should be like.
You're not going to improve until you admit your mistakes buddy.
You realize there's punctuation for those, right? An em dash represents a sudden halt to a sentence, and an ellipsis is one where it trails off.
I'm personally fine with no punctuation for the screaming bullshit, though.
So is Kaneki going to get captured and have another rousing experience with torture and escape, or will he manage to luck his way out alive (albeit delusional and with one eye and half his brain missing).
He'll luck out somehow being willed on by his Tulpa, then Yomo/Touka/Uta will be there somehow.
P-please? He's had enough suffering
Probably the underground escape chamber.
>in a real professional work
I've seen professional work do shapes with their text like text and paragraphs don't exist. Do I think that would fly? Yes, I do. Because it clearly did.
Quit being such a faggot.
What are you talking about? ? couldn't be a better sentence end as far as Japanese is concerned. From reading what I have available of the raw, a good deal of the bubbles (not all, though) would count as a complete sentence.
What are dashes? What are commas? What are em-dashes? You could even use periods for half of those that you missed out.
Stop complaining about shit you clearly have no idea about and just admit it and do better next time instead of continuing to screw up.
Irimi's and Koma's gang tried to escape the ward at one point and they all got murdered by Arima.
I want to assume that they were capable of taking out the rest of Arima's squad though
Actually I'm the one who did most of the other chapters with help from some anons here. My Japanese and translating might not be that great but I agree that the punctuation here could be a lot better.
He literally left out everything for the first half of the chapter.
He seems sympathetic, even if he'll do his job regardless. So long as there's more important places to be and Kaneki isn't trying to pass V14 at that moment, he may just leave.
so basically you're saying any page that is supposed to be him just spewing out nonsense, to be seen as crazy or insane at the moment, should have close-to-perfect punctuation?
Can you legitimately prove it?
I get your point, but in all honesty I don't care if he puts proper punctuation on the inane ramblings of a mad man.
Not using punctuation on Arima would have pissed me off, but he did an okay job on that end.
It just seems like pointless bickering after the first person pointed it out.
Do you seriously believe that proper punctuation automatically makes everything better? Even when the person is far from being sane and is also incapable of making proper sentences?
Lack of punctuation can get the point that he's insane across well. Stop being such a bitch about it.
When will you autists understand that punctuation is simply a part of the English language as it was put here >>112399936?
There is a way to express everything. Constant gibberish with no pauses? Sure, stick a dash at the end of speech bubbles in there, a comma here and there, a period at the end of full sentences, an em dash for interruptions...
It's simply how it is.
But yeah, I agree that it's not a big deal, I'm sorry for being loud and autistic about it. I'll stop.
Yeah. The corpses turned back into flowers, the floor turned into the checkered pattern from Jason's fun house, and Kaneki was having conversations with himself again while trying to think to not pass out.
It's from the ???????? poem.
It makes just as little sense in the actual poem.
It's much softer than any he's shown anywhere else.
More surprised that a ghoul is not attacking or fleeing and instead reciting poetry. It's more coherent than what he was spewing before, anyway.
>tfw one day we'll have the missing chapters translated
Without knowing what ?? is, it's really hard to make a call. That also doesn't really fit the seasonal shit, though.
Not saying that can't be it, poems do occasionally/often do stupid shit like that.
>mfw the missing chapters are translated by Kawa or Blast
>And then they just bitch out like that
I fucking knew that something like this was going to happen.It's always like this, these guys just wanted the attention and then create their so called "drama" so they don't get bashed when they stop.
It's less for translation sake and more I'm fucking curious at this point. I'm like 99.9% positive I'll never come across it again (assuming the author doesn't bring it back up), unless I feel like getting into that UNA??? shit. Which I'm sure I won't.
what do you guys do while posting on /a/? listening to some music? cause being active in these ghoul thread is exhausting, I've stopped watching anything since i started.
even though i wanted to start watching Dexter
Reading manga about a cute Ko-gal.
and masturbating while I listen to the kaiji ost
You don't have to watch this thread constantly.
Why not just watch some anime or listen to music in the meantime while looking over some code like I do? Just check the thread every half an hour.
Stop responding to shitposts and just report them.
what music you listen to?
>implying I don't do that already
>implying I have money
so basically i need to work on my backlog, thanks for the answers anon
One group was doing standard scanlating + translating stuff but was behind for several volumes.
Some impatient people skipped several chapters to translate a really good part. Then seveal other groups started doing the same along with the current chapters.
So now we have several gaps since you got one group of random people making hasty translations that makes /a/ act like a royal vagina about and another that takes for fucking ever to translate.
I am a retard, I imagine I'm having a conversation with people in real time and be rude to reply late, especially to a thread that updates with at least 30 post every min.
and sometimes these damn captchas can be very annoying
Yea but I live on a different timezone and I don't know all their epic memes so I don't browse it really.
Besides their forum software is ancient and is a pain in the ass to browse. /a/ gets all the good shit like raws and spoilers just as fast I imagine.
I asked my mom just for you here is her reply word for word:
>that feeling when you've made the right choice in picking the better website
Thats like trying to compare skyrim with oblivion. Both are diferent things even if they apear similar.
Dont bring your stupid need for "i made the right choice" confirmation into this.
>Besides their forum software is ancient and is a pain in the ass to browse. /a/ gets all the good shit like raws and spoilers just as fast I imagine.
We steal it just as fast from other sites, if not.
Reading that, the first phrase that comes to mind is "Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse". Wrong season, I know, and that would work horribly in the poem. I'll have to think on it. Tell her thanks.
I'm not even the guy who translated this chapter, I just wanted to know what the hell it meant. It does make me feel better that this shit confuses even native Moonmen. Which really isn't too surprising since hours on Google got me jack shit.
So, I started cracking knuckles like that and did it absentmindedly for two days. Since yesterday I couldn't do it at all - it feels like I'm just stretching my finger. What do?
I think we are trying too hard to make sense of what is meant to be taken for gibberish or just a poem kaneki read twisted into gibberish just as another nod towards his learned bookworm past.
I dont think what hes saying is as important as the context in which hes saying it (books=safe place, and hes currently in the least safe place he could be).
Or I could just be fanwanking too hard here.
No, I think you're right. If anything, I think the author chose a random poem that's hard to make sense of on purpose.
Still, there's a possibility of hidden meanings that we might not getting right now. Ishida Sui likes putting these small things in every now and then.
>just a poem kaneki read twisted into gibberish
Kaneki read the poem word-for-word, minus the stuttering. It is a real life poem, after all.
But I do agree it likely isn't too important, I just like learning about language.
Ainu is famous for being a language nearly literally no one knows.
Haven't been in these threads lately as well as needing to catch up, is there a reason people keep doing this?
Also, the guy who makes Kaneki's mask, I forget his name, does it ever explain why he always has his ghoul eyes activated?
Yamori does the knuckle cracking because he picked it up from a CCG member who tortured him. Kaneki got it from Yamori after his torture. Naki does it because he idolizes Yamori.
As for Uta, I'm not sure why his eyes are always like that
It's just a description for the chapter. It's not actually the title of it. The chapter titles always consist of 2 Moon letters, which means in English they should always be 1 or 2 words.
Well its not like you expect me to write formally on 4chan would you? Anyway i been on media cultural for a year now, and im looking for something to do in my spare time.
The /a/nons doing TG aren't in a group or anything. There is no communication, no names, no organising, no nothing.
It's pretty great, let's keep it this way.
If you really want to do something, just do it. Translating? Dump it in these threads. Typesetting some tls? Dump it here. Do whatever you want.
Yes we do expect you to write formally you fucking retard, how hard is it to put a space after commas and capitalise your 'i's?
If you're shit you better be ready to be laughed out of here amidst constant calls of 'retard' and 'fuck off'.
Take a look at this very thread, our translator was very competent but everyone bitched him the fuck out because of some minor grammar mistakes.
Quality is important. Both there and here you fucking mongoloid. If you're incapable of posting properly, get out.
>offers myself to translate in my spare time
>quality fag tells me to be "ready" by the mocking
>expecting a good praise from 4chan
>doesn't even see I'm too lazy care for grammar.
Well thanks anyway for the information faggot
>our translator was very competent but everyone bitched him the fuck out because of some minor grammar mistakes
He did the slurring very well, but had a couple minor mistakes on a couple lines, and a few more that could've been done better but were passable. The hardest parts of this chapter were deciphering the slurring and the poem, so aside from those, it wasn't exactly a test of skill.
So what's the general consensus amongst /a/?
Did Kaneki chow down on Hide in a fit of adrenaline fueled survival mechanisms going haywire?
Did good ole Hide have a plan? Some people think he scooped up Amon's arm before meeting up with Kaneki.
Some people don't think he was even there at all.
Kaneki is not yet ready for the suffering that is eating hide.
Hide has a plan. One that makes him a dangerous criminal to be hunted down by the CCG.
It'll be Hide & Kaneki the bros 4 lyfe after this arc.
Just wait and see.
I just assumed that Hide is dead, it's easier for me this way.
I think Hide offered a bit of himself for a few reasons. One was he didn't appear to have anything on him aside from what he was wearing. I also believe he was actually there because of what he said to Kaneki got a reaction out of black-hair Kaneki, and I don't think Kaneki's imagination could have produced that reaction on its own.
He's also probably alive, as I doubt Kaneki in his starved state would have killed Hide, and then aimlessly walked around for a while. I think he ate a good chunk of Hide and Hide walked off on his own, or that the guy who looking for Amon found him.
There wasn't a 'plan'. He just told Kaneki to do his best and essentially gave him a health kit like in a game. The only thing Hide could do after is mislead the investigators that would pursue Kaneki, which would be why he left. Sticking with Kaneki wouldn't help him nearly as much.
But the whole ghouls can only eat humans and other ghouls bit doesn't?
Don't try to justify things. Just enjoy the ride, /a/non. You'll just drop the series or go insane if you don't.
the common theory for UTA is because he fucking wants.
you see, giving his looks style, no one will dubs is a body modification, and yes, eye coloring (to even look like a TG ghoul) is a real and legal body modification
After reading this chapter, Touka will never experience Kankei cumming in her. ;_;
Is Kanekishit finally dead?
We're into PENTAedge territory right there!
SAO, Akame ga Kill, SnK, Brynhildr nothing can outedge TGhoul this year.
Well played Ghoul. Well played. You'll get the teenage edgelord bucks.
you can't outedge who trascended the concept of edge and became edge himself, just to trascend to concept of over the edge and become the outer overedge itself
AgK is not the edge, AgK is what lies beyond the overedge
>mfw those look like tiny skeleton or hands from "aliens" trying to protect their father.
How are you confused? Like seriously. We were shown last chapter it can be activated multiple times at once and it has the same pattern as his quinque. In fact, it looks nothing like Kaneki's kagune.
Although this is the kind of shit I expect from a Batoto commenter.
I was also confused last chapter with that thing that Arima attacked Kaneki with at first. The things that went out of his back. So it was the same thing. I'm not a batoto commenter so calm your tits. Like seriously, it's not like I have to be a batoto commenter to be confused.
SO now we have two ways this can move forward, Kaneki gets a powerup that rivals the Owl Jr or he get completely broken and has to sit out months recovering, either on the ghoul prison or in some hideout, do you think his firend will try to do something? I mean Banjou, Shuu and whoever else?
I'm assuming the flowers imagery is a new thing for Ishida? Or has it been used before a la the checkered patterns?
Yeah, just like in katachi every chapter is supposed to be the healing one
Flowers are associated with death to begin with. I know it kinda got lost in the last chapter what with pronouns and all, but Kaneki was wondering about it. How we leave flowers at funerals and graves, how beauty is used to mask death.
I miss The Boss.
Someone asked for chapter 125 earlier, it's coming soon.
Here's the last page of 124 to help you understand a bit better.
first bubble is from the previous page, ignore it
guy in hat: You've finally been cornered,
vert text: A mysterious organisation that knows of his past suddenly appears in front of Yoshimura. Their purpose is...!?
Yoshimura: Have you come to dispose of me?
Kaiko: Dispose of you?
For that, more of us would have come.
"More" of us ... say,
we go way back, don't we?
As a friend, I just want to help you out...
Tell us where the brat is.
Yoshimura: ...What do you mean?
Kaiko: Don't pretend you don't know.
The [One-Eyed Owl].
We know all about your blood relation.
Because of [Aogiri Tree],
the equilibrium we've maintained over these long years is collapsing.
The child's existence itself
is a betrayal of "V" by you.
Kaiko: ...This is your last warning.
Give the child to us
and pledge your loyalty to "V".
This is your only way to stay alive.
Yoshimura: Don't make me repeat myself.
I know nothing about any [One-Eyed Owl].
Yoshimura: I have no child.
Kaiko: ...So be it.
You are a bird in a birdcage.
There is no escape.
Yoshimura: ...I know.
That's why I'm floundering like this.
Touka: The zoo?
friend: During summer break,
I want to pack a lunchbox and...
go there with you again.
If you're busy studying, then I guess we can't, but...
It won't hurt to rest for a day.
I'll make all your favourite dishes!
Omelette, fried chicken and—
>Yfw touka is growing her hair out to be more like Rize but still keeping her tomboyish personality.
Touka: Once we graduate, will we go our separate ways...?
I don't want that...
Let's play together even after we graduate.
I don't want to be with university people only!
Touka: Let's pass the entrance exam first...
Yomo: —The [CCG] are after [Anteiku]...?
Kaneki: They said they're organising a [punitive expedition].
It might be a considerably large scale operation...
I think it would be for the best for everyone at [Anteiku] to go into hiding.
We don't know how much information they have...
Yomo: ...I understand.
Yoshimura and I will pass it on to everyone.
You should lie low for the time being too.
...I'll contact you once the heat cools off.
Kaneki: What... will happen to the shop?
Yomo: ...The shop can be rebuilt.
...Staying alive comes first.
Yoshimura: Kaneki said—?
I see... Understood.
Yoshimura: I'll leave Touka and Nishio to you, Yomo.
...And the business with Rize too.
devil ape: Mr Yoshimura.
I got the floor of the shop sparkling clean.
Consider it the Devil Ape's special cleaning service.
Irimi: All the documents have been disposed of.
Yoshimura: ...Thank you—
Yoshimura: Here, go ahead.
Irimi: Thank you.
Devil ape: Oh! I've been waiting for this.
text/devil ape: You know that it's the great "Devil Ape" you're picking a fight with!?
text/Irimi: Don't talk to me so freely, old man... or I'll kill you.
text/is that yomo?: ...Mr Yoshimura ... I apologise but working in a shop isn't for me...
text/Yoshimura's eye: ...
text/Nishiki: Old man! Is that enough?
text/Roma: Manager~ I'm so sorry...
Yoshimura*: It's going to get lonely.
I may have screwed up this line. Possible other translations : It's becoming lonely. I'm starting to feel lonely. It's become lonely.
devil ape: Mr Yoshimura.
Kaya and I will follow you to the end, so
Irimi: you don't have any complaints, do you?
text/Yoshimura: In the end, my wish never came true.
>Skipping chapters and assuming others will pick up the slack
What a fucking mess mess this is. We wouldn't have these shitty anon translations if the groups weren't so damn impatient
Anyway, thanks for reading. Boring chapter but it builds everything up and introduces a new player to the game.
That's good. What do you think about the chapter title? Those are the fucking worst to try make sense of for me.
Holy fuck, it's like the author enjoys the suffering.
Also for some reason characters that act almost completely devoid of emotion and are always calm and collected and on top of that powerful kind of piss me off for some reason. It is pretty sweet once they drop their "I don't really care" face when shit gets serious.
>What do you think about the chapter title?
I'm actually pretty lax about those, for those part. The author usually combines two kanji that don't go together to make an abstract meaning to begin with.
"Shattered Heaven", "Collapsing Heaven", there's like 100 things you could do with it. I'd honestly be fine with translations of ? be Sky or Paradise for it. And ? is simple in its destroy/ruined/collapse/shattered/broken/thesaurusmotherfucker meanings. Could probably even turn it into a weather worsening thing.
>it's like the author enjoys the suffering
That's because bullied Kaneki is the best Kaneki.
I think "Haven" works fine. It's a bit of a stretch, but like I said, a lot of the chapter names are probably just to get you thinking anyway. Aside from obvious ones like "Kaneki" and "Hanged Man".
Oh right. You could also probably read it as ????, which could make for some interesting meanings involving ?? and ??. I normally don't look into the pronunciation too hard, though. Incorporating Nisio-level fuckery in English might as well be impossible.
So, how is he going to escape this? I'm pretty sure that him stabbing him through his fucking brain is enough of a hint that he didn't plan on letting him live (unless he knew he would survive that). He also knows who he is, so he's either aware due to the investigation, or he's connected to the doctor.
Arima was wasting a lot of time this chapter. By literally just watching Kaneki suffer and ramble incoherent nonsense. So if someone's going to save him, they've been getting a lot of bonus time to do so.
Arima resembles me SMT's Lucifer taking random, attractive human forms
Jesus fuck, if this was Kaneki post the first torture, i'm kinda curious how he'll act after this.
Also, he was told who the one eye king was right? It's kinda of annoying that the author is teasing the shit out of it.
This yin-yang circle, with most of 'Kaneki Ken' on the black part and a little on the white symbolises how Kaneki is currently treading a tightrope between a ghoul's instinct and a human's rationale, and he is clearly tilting over to the ghoul (black) part.
How cute. It's almost like he doesn't live a life of suffering, going by this image.
Can't help but wonder if the author has fun doing this contrastive stuff.
I think the Author is a bit weird but i like that about him.
This entire segment makes it semm like she's in the wrong for thinking like this, but even if she is projecting she's right. Kaneki's trying to burden himself by thinking he needs to be strong to protect everyone important to him, without relying on friends for help and the like. That's basically a death sentence for his mental health, he's alredy walking on thin ice, going berserk before and everything, if keeps shoving everyone aside to work alone at some point he's going to break and lose his mind.
Also they both want company, so it's a win-win situation for then both.
I didn't feel that it was made to make her seem wrong but rather to show that she did not manage to actually talk to him about what she felt and just blurted that, she is not wrong but she said that he should fuck off and never come back when she actually didn't mean it, she is after all scared shitless of getting abandoned by everyone after Ayato and her parents
Rize's currently too riddled with hunger to do shit tough. She dosn't even remenber him.
I guess he wanted to take her away from the good doctor, but why the fuck is he keeping her alive anyways?
Why's the Chinese clean of this cropped so much? They cut off a good chunk of the page in every direction but the top, basically.
>Shares birthday with Kaneki
>No likes at all
>"?" blood type
swear there has to be some kind of relationship between the two
what if arima is kaneki's biological father?
that hair, that head, that chin, literally looks like a fusion of arima and kaneki , if kaneki was working out
He's like 16 in Tokyo Ghoul JACK, so if anyone knows how long before Tokyo Ghoul that takes place then we'll know his age.
Like >>112421013 said, he's probably somewhere around 26.
Why can't Kaneki just be happy again?
He did nothing wrong.
Do we have any more of these pics of Kaneki beating the shit out of Tsukiyama? For some reason, looking at them brings me great happiness despite Tsukiyama being my second favorite character.
He's polite to his coworkers and respected by them. He pities Kaneki and even praises him. When it comes to ghouls he's ruthless, but otherwise not abnormal. It's similar to Mado, really.
disregard my last post I suck cocks
other link was missing the last two spreads
anyway, ch. 125 typeset here
I'm guessing it's not your thing, but the tsukikane/shuuneki tag on tumblr is full of them
He's respected because of his fighting prowess, his coworkers respect him but definitely don't see him as a friend. He has a perpetual look of apathy on his face, has no "likes" listed in his profile and he seems to only live to killing ghouls, which is pretty damn creepy. Mado is at least humanized by his daughter. Arima's not normal.
The only scenes we have of him out of battle that I recall are Mado's memorial service, where he chides Marude for speaking poorly of him, and Amon and Suzuya's promotion (chapter 80), where he praises them on their good work, which he knows about specifically, and wishes them luck. Seems like kind superior interaction to me. He's still weird when it comes to ghouls, though.
Not beating up, but...
I don't know, he seem pretty chilled in ch.80. He praise Amon, joke around with his old partner Take and is cheering success for Suzuya . He seem more upbeat went he's not out killing ghouls.
Basically exactly what you'd expect.
Tsukiyama says it's important to wear clothes that are easy to move in in battle and the lower back was left open for his rinkaku. Kaneki responds that it really is easy to move in. Hinami says he looks cool.
Tsukiyama has a freakout over his exposed back commenting he wants to lick it, causing Kaneki to feel a chill. Hinami asks if he has a cold.
My moon is shit, please take with salt.
The next page.
This is like 8 pages, it's pretty funny.
Poor Tsukiyama. His chances of winning Kanekib owl are already so low and Hinami gets to do all the things he can't.
I wouldn't go that far.
At least it seems he's been bumped up to friendzone.
It's hard to say. Probably pissed at Arima and Amon for hurting him, jealous at Hide, and depressed over Kaneki's suffering and imminent death?
Extremely obsessed to the point he's become Kanekisexual.
Obsessed. Eating Kaneki is still his goal as of now. Whether or not he has a change of heart or becomes the final boss somehow still trying to eat the Kanekipede is anyone's guess at this point though.
He's a psychopath. A very entertaining psychopath.
He had a crush on Touka in the past, so he'd be Bi or something. It's a fine line between his obsession and being in love with Kaneki, but I'm not sure where exactly that line would be crossed.
I just went to find it and I think I misunderstood. Sorry, I must've been mixing it up with what he said in the anime...
I was gonna refute it but everyone I looked up to counter was proved to be gay.
And people like Rod Stewart and David Bowie were more quirky than flamboyant.