>backstory: we are trying to save the world by making a new sad panda
which will only be for /a e1337s
>so far we decided on cloning sad panda and making a better looking GUI
> I am ready and willing to pay
OK /a I have found a hosting which is located in Argentina.
Looks quite nice to me.
Pls tell me your opinion as it is your future on the plate here and I am new to web hosting and all.
The second plan which is 250 GB should be alright. I guess we could pay to extend as we go.For some time.
Please direct me in what to do
HEY GUYYSS REMEMBER WHEN WE TRY TO CLONE FACEBOOK!??
You should ask some people on /g/ for advice/assistance. I remember seeing a few people who made their own front end for their collection just on their local computer. They might be able to design a schema for the DB and what not or you are just going for an FTP like service.
You should probably look into what similar sites are using instead of just picking some random shitheap that will drop you at the first abuse complaint.
I think the standard procedure is to hide your real host behind an abuse-tolerant reverse proxy (not just Cloudflare since they forward complaints).
Besides, we need to add the amount of files distributed through H@H to the mix. 250GB seems to be too little.
Of course, H@H contains everything, not just manga and doujinshi. There are CGs too.
I'd say if we're going for a start, we forget about those for now and concentrate on the translated stuff first like >>111067385 said.
Oh damn, I forgot that tor is already slow enough as it is. Sorry for that stupid question, anon.
We could do it, but we would have to upgrade the TOR network a shit ton. I still say we host a server without a DNS record, that would at least keep up the legal appearance of a sekrit club.
I don't think its actually worth it to create a new site. Tenboro didn't delete any of those galleries, they are only hidden. I'm quite sure Tenboro is trying to find some way to make them avaible in a way that Wani won't get angry.
>which will only be for /a e1337s
Whats the point? If it becomes worth using in any real capacity, people are going to have threads with links to it, newfags are going to ask how to use it, people will either spoonfeed them or tell them to google it; and either way it'll get bigger and bigger.
The problem is that everything gets routed around a lot to ensure anonymity, which will always make it slow as fuck, no matter how much capacity we add.
We don't need strong anonymity, we just need a decentralized hosting system.
Ignore me I'm just spewing ideas out of my dysfunctional ass.
No, just no.
This was my idea. It won't work because they will just dmca the fileserver, although it will work as a temporary solution. Remember the Quebec guy yesterday. Let's have him host it for a while.
I will save everything save for the shitty Western galleries! You can count on me.
>OK /a I have found a hosting which is located in Argentina.
I don't think you know what you're doing.
You can't host this much stuff without having a dedicated server. Even a dedicated server with fast hard drives will not have the IO to serve up all the porn.
People with 1gbit uploads have been hosting manga and it gets pretty slow over time because the disk cannot keep up. The beauty in the sadpanda system is that people are incentivized to run a botnet to host the hentai on a distributed system. It still relies on a central server to command and control though, so it's not truly distributed.
DMCA goes straight to your host, domain names have nothing to do with it.
And while NL doesn't have to comply with DMCA, some hosts will anyway. Supposedly some companies like OVH will mostly ignore them though.
On the topic of hosting a server, I think Kimsufi has some pretty cheap servers with lots of disk space at $20/month. But they're all limited to 100Mbps.
Asian bandwidth is EXTREMELY FUCKING EXPENSIVE and also slow. No way you're getting TB-levels of monthly bandwidth without getting your ass reamed.
I think something like kimsufi servers would suffice, and we could create a cluster of them to distribute the files around.
Leaseweb. My seedbox in NL gets 80MB/s downloading from their archive. It's pretty nice.
sadpanda's server cluster is pretty pricey. Last I heard it cost $100k/year to run or something. And he offloads much of the heavy IO/bandwidth to others with H@H. It's a ton of bandwidth and more importantly, disk IO that is expensive.
Pick one. Which are your three favourite /a/non. I'll tell you why they are shit.
This argument is not for this thread. Go to the other one.
Every body is going ape shit over this development, but I'm a happy fapper because my favourites are mainly too sick to be touched. Anyway, who needs more than 500 favourites, I ask you? Nobody has strong enough genitals to fap through 500 collections.
Yeah, rageposting on an anonymous imageboard is so scary. Anonymous is legion never forgive and never forget XD. The /a/ approach is to focus on saving our porn, we leave that shit to /b/. Not like they'll get anything done ever.
Those $30 import doujins are pretty irrelevant for the discussion of pricing for the Wani stuff.
The latest takedown from Wani was inevitable. They already sent out takedowns a few months ago which was what led to the Fakku deal in the first place. So it's not hard to believe that they'd send more.
Okay, I guess my brain is just incapable of doing anything about this. I'll just go back to drawfagging and leave it to the veterans from now. Godspeed /a/.
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
Yeah, most of my stuff is on Gelbooru anyway, it's tag searching is the best out of any site I've been on, love it. But still occasionally go to sadpanda for more content because no other sites have the same shit.
Yeah fair enough, I've still gone and archived way too much smut after the initial scare. But the very few doujinshi that I lost, I was able to find elsewhere by copying the name from my favourites.
Wani was already sending out DMCA's before any takedown. Most likely spurred on by the Chinese scanning their magazines so quickly after the release date and eating into their sales. Then a quick google search of the magazine revealed sadpanda and other big sites hosting it, so they asked for it to be taken down. Fakku was one of the hosts included in it.
A single clone is just another single point of failure.
You need automatic data migration capabilities. Essentially, if you upload something to the site, that data should be automatically downloadable by other sites.
Then have multiple independent sites.
Hell, you could even have cross-site uploads. Upload to one place, it gets copied to other sites as well.
>Also dmca takes time, we just reupload.
What? Are you serious? DMCA notice if a doc with two or there empty fields that get filled then the whole shit gets sent. IP lawyers have templates and large IP holders have crawlers and automated DMCA notices.
Compare to uploading TERABYTES of data.
Sounds like a plan. Let's do >>111070832 but on multiple ukranian hosts. We couldn't accept any payments through them though because all infrastructure in ukraine is compromised.
I'm argentinian, if you want me I can do a backup of everything you ask me for and upload it faster than you can...even tho I don't exactly know how the server hosting works...or you could just grab a dropbox account and save it all there since it gets bigger with each person invited there or something like that
We could do like... share the files with passwords, encryption and a codified file name on public sites (mediafire, MEGA, etc) and then index the names/tags/passwords on a secret .onion site.
Hosting shit in Ukraine is retarded. It'll be too expensive for the disk and bandwidth necessary.
Just find a European host willing to ignore DMCA's. I doubt Wani has the balls to actually go further than asking for takedowns anyway.
Do people not know about this?
Guy pulled all the dojins/manga from sadpanda a couple weeks ago
Dropbox won't work.
This also seems like a plan.
I won't be hosting it.
I do understand servers. If you have a better understanding than me, contribute.
Why don't you guys deliver the data outside of the internet by hiring deliverers like the ones in the movie Johnny Mneumonic? We could easily set up a grid.
All that is left is to build an /a/ funded R&D center, and maybe it would be possible to buy an island or a ship that would act like our outer haven.
Tor is practically illegal in Austria, btw. You're liable for whatever exits from your end.
>Tor is practically illegal in Austria, btw.
Mate, you have to enable in your TOR client the option to run as Exit Relay for TOR. It's disabled by default, you're only relying shit between other nodes.
You aren't even doing that. You have to enable relaying as well. If you just download the browser, you are just a client. A darknet portal linking to clearnet servers would work, and may stymy the automated legal machine for a time.
We need a final solution. Offloading it to another potential jew doesn't solve the problem
This seems insane and stupid. I like it. (although my first choice is clearnet servers with a darknet index)
With all this sad panda copyright bs, I do kind of wonder what the legal standpoint for torrenting hentai/anime/manga in general is and if anyone in the west tracks that stuff like they do movies, especially the unlicensed stuff.
>what the legal standpoint for torrenting hentai/anime/manga in general
It's illegal but when no one from IP holders cares to get involved the rest of law enforcement doesn't care.
>and if anyone in the west tracks that stuff like they do movies, especially the unlicensed stuff.
Tracking shit on larger scales costs lots of money.
No one in their right mind is going to bother to track anything he personally doesn't make money from.
>DMCA are a joke if you are outside the US, you can just ignore them(though we will probably honor them if the artists themselves send them, don't give a shit about Jacob from fuckku or anyone else, they can go stick their head in a dick).
This guy is alright.
Well, copyright laws of all kinds are absolutely retarded here in germany, basically tracking any and all bittorrent movements for western music and movies.
Wouldn't surprise me if these fucks even tracked anime.
Anyway we can get in touch with the artists, not wani? Honestly i would be more than willing to support the artists for high quality uploads, but seeing as how Jacob and wani are taking all the profits I would rather not fork up the cash. Maybe a lot of the artists would get pissed off and start a shit storm over there.
Just think, westerners fucking up the doujin industry, and when its all fixed they will be forced to pay attention to westerners as relevant to their attention.
If artists want people to buy their shit they should sell it online at their own site and reprint it constantly. Translate to english and uncensor. Not hawk it at fucking conventions in limited quantities.
Isn't piratebay even using North Korean servers now?
Read that on /g/ a while ago, no idea if that was a fake.
>westerners fucking up the doujin industry
I doubt artists will be able to do much to get Wani on their side.
So what's the point of the panda now? It's neutered from it's former glory and it will only get worse since far fewer stuff will be uploaded in the future and even more present content removed as more stuff becomes licensed since pony fucker bends over to every single DMCA.
Also, what's the point of hosting it in the Netherlands? I thought it was to avoid this shit in the first place. How about host it somewhere that doesn't give a shit if he's so scared?
You people are delusional if you think we are much of a market for Jap artists. We're not very numerous in the first place, and even fewer of us would willingly pay.
>Wouldn't surprise me if these fucks even tracked anime.
Wouldn't make sense for unlicensed stuff. You can sue someone for infringing on your IP but you can't really go to a judge and say: 'See this fag? He torrents chines cartoons we don't own the rights to, he's a filthy pirate so throw him in jail'. It costs money to track, it costs money to sue and they need to get some money back from the pirates, that's why usually you get a chance to settle before they drag you to court. They don't really want you to serve jail sentence, well they might so your example deters others, but first and foremost they want money.
Of course if you torrent Naruto and there's some German license holder you're fucked.
According to Junji Ito we will end up as Gods, I'm in.
>but I'm not sure how to upload panda stuff to exhen.
I'll just assume you mean the ftp, not sandpanda.
I think the ftp is only a temporal solution for MT manga.
Maybe that's why.
manga.madokami.com has mangatraders stuff
exhen.madokami.com has, well, porn.
I'm trying to figure out how to upload to the latter, since there's an empty folder marked sadpanda..
On a kind of unrelated note. How do I get Manga Organizer to work properly? It keeps saying "Parsing Metadata... An exception that can't be dealt with has arrived in the application software" and so on, when I try to add the link from Ex.
>various big botnets use it successfully
>The network could never deal with this.
Botnets use it for command and control, not for moving TBs of data around.
You don't have to believe random anon, just grab some TOR Browser package and try out some .onion sites, shit's really slow.
Hows that alternative to mangatraders you were all so excited about setting up a few weeks ago? Oh, but im sure this time you wont be all talk, no action
>Botnets use it for command and control
Yes, but this means they still have to keep millions of circuits open
>Just grab some TOR Browser package and try out some .onion sites
Adding adblock with the ad and social filters, plus a dns/http cache makes a big difference
>Yes, but this means they still have to keep millions of circuits open
But the traffic is minimal. Not so much when you click through 200+ MB of pages during your fap sessions multiplied by number of horny anons.
>Adding adblock with the ad and social filters, plus a dns/http cache makes a big difference
Wouldn't this only help to speedup access to normal net, not .onion sites?
>Hows that alternative to mangatraders you were all so excited about setting up a few weeks ago?
We made a little programm to rip puririn before they begin to fuck with it as well.
It might have bugs though since it's pretty much just put together in a few hours.
How to use:
In the "artists.txt" you can add all the artists you want to download, it will automaticly grab everything that is tagged with the name of the artist or the group. In the "downloadpath.txt" you have to add your path like "G:\Hentai\". Don't touch the "artistlist.csv" unless you know what you're doing though.
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I only heard about Madokami yesterday (I don't frequent /a/) and I have no idea how to keep up on the password. I saw someone post it yesterday but again, I haven't been asked for a password anyway. Would you mind at least informing me of how to keep track of the passwords? I'm sure I'll need them in the future and so far I haven't noticed anything on the site that would be helpful in that regard.
>tfw the motherlode torrent is ~1 hour from completion
Oh no, I haven't been. I've always saved anything I wanted, I'm just keeping up on alternative sources of hentai in case I need them at some point.
Thanks. I've never done anything with FTP, I imagine I'll need an FTP client. Still not sure how to do it but I'll see if I can figure it out.
All we need is nyaa to track and list all the torrents that are currently only tracked (and maybe only listed) by the eh tracker. Nyaa still has all the wani stuff that was submitted to them.
Getting the metadata from sadpanda is no real problem.
But how can we get the torrents to use nyaa as well?
And only 0% of the people working on the program have Windows, it won't even be complete with their planning being absolute garbage and there's already open source torrent clients
The people who made the actual gtorrent website did
After most of the features are down on the linux version, it's going to be ported to Windows.
It's not that big of a deal because IIRC they are only using cross-platform libraries.
>Then why even have a password?
So various crawlers and indexers roaming teh interwebs (even those that ignore access lists) can't find your stash.
If shit doesn't appear on google there's a chance it will live longer.
The password was meant to stop randoms from other sites coming, using up all the bandwidth without actually sharing. The FTP just adds an extra step that is more complicated than c&p a password. It's been fairly effective so far.
i was just about to post anon
Srsly /a/ stay on your fucking degenerate containment board
kek. There's more autism here than there is on /g/. I never thought that was possible.
i dont go to college and i code. Do you like the taste of dick in your mouth?
come on over. you wont last >5 min
>there's already two other Sadpanda alternatives that people from /a/ made
>durr letz make a third one and max our space at 250GB
>come on over. you wont last >5 min
Can you punch people over TCP/IP?
If you thing you can out-autism, out-gross or otherwise make /a/utists to leave you're deluding yourselves.
>Crazy's Manga is closed
IT'S ALSO OLD AND USEFUL
>Until the server shuts down on 2014-08-04, I'm giving everyone a chance to get all releases that are on here, there is an anonymous(read-only) ftp account for crazytje.com now, so you can just log in and download what you like.
>If anyone is interested in hosting the site, I've also put the source code on the ftp, contact me if you need help setting it up.
Someone call him!
If you aren't here to help then fuck off, we have enough retards from /pol/ and /b/ here to have to deal with you, and on top of all it's also summer.
If you think this is /a/ then you're wrong. You just have to see all the retards not even knowing what madokami is.
I wasn't talking about nhentai, retard.
You're not very bright, are you? By allowing literally everything exhentai had a ton of shit, but at least it had everything. Just because you don't care for something doesn't mean nobody else does or that there is absolutely no good material.
They came for the fucking pedophiles and horsefuckers and I spoke out with cheers.
[13:39:57] <tenboro> heh I didn't get around to visit the forums yet today
[13:40:05] <Steaki> the forums are a dark and scary place
[13:40:08] <tenboro> been coding for uh
[13:40:12] <tenboro> 11 hours
Brace for super duper sekrit club.
If this is true, we NEED better secrecy.
NO MORE DAILY SAD PANDA THREADS! That includes you, Hakase.
NOBODY SHARES INFO, NOT EVEN TO THEIR FRIENDS
pftttthahahaha."friends". seriously, don't share it.
We kill the Jacob so he doesn't snitch again.
I'll be glad when I can access all of the (non-IP blocked) content again but I still really hope that an alternative comes up, one that isn't run by someone who acts like a 15 year old.
What did Daiz do that made him a scapegoat? I see lists of how he killed fansubbing and shit, but what's the story behind that? It just seems that you guys blame Daiz for everything bad nowadays.
Call me a newfag if you want but I'm here for my hentais, not for /a/ culture.
So basically sandpanda lost 20% of it's archive in one fell swoop?
That's pretty much a critical blow. I don't see them recovering. People are pissed, apparently.
No it hasn't, 80k is a gross overestimation. g.e currently shows 230k, and an archive.org page from the 19th shows 229k. There would've only been a couple hundred or so missing at most.
>But it's the truth. What's the point in spoonfeeding shit stains like him when he can go lurk them. He's shitting up the threads even more.
Do you like it now, spoonfeeder-kun?
come back when you hit the 1tb mark and even then you're just stuck in the water with your nose above the surface.
46gb? You've already drowned in the ocean, with your bones picked clean by crabs and lobsters.
>all the manga and doujins from ex
>no westernshit, 3dshit(asian porn), shit in languages that are not superior english and moonspeak
>owner doesnt give a shit about copyright
>/a/ retards freak out because it doesnt allow furry/toddlercon and uses tumblr to post site updates
You faggots deserve this fate.
You're being too light on yourself, anon.
If you want to make a sacrifice, try
fapping to pony porn(spoiled for the sheer atrocity of the act). Now that is dangerous and your sanity won't be guaranteed.
nhentai relies entirely on exhentai.
This means no new stuff from now on.
And as much as I you might hate the horsefucker, he includes EVERYTHING.
Why are you supporting someone who only includes content that he cares for? Content is still content, and excluding scanlations just because you don't like it is retarded.
It's the same shit as fakku only not so restrictive.
Why didn't you listen?
We told you that we needed a federated, decentralized web without a man in the middle of everything, who can censor on their own whim.
You could have prevented this.
People will take convenience over security every single time. It's why everyone is freaking out now that they have to type a manga name in google and check a couple links to download something now.
If you guys seriously believe that calling jacob a "JEW" will solve all problems then you are a bunch of fucking retards.
He's doing more good than bad, you guys are all blinded by incoherent anger.
>Anons once again busting their asses for porn
Not surprising but I still find it kind of funny.
Has anyone died over this incident yet? We can't say for certain that it hasn't happened.
why not use torrents with encrypted files? You could serve the .torrent files / magent links on one domain and the passwords for them on a different one. Legally nobody can do anything about it since it's ancrypted and you wouldn't have to get a 20TB host.
He's making it possible to have uncensored ero manga soon. If somebody scans/shares it, we will be able to get it for free.
If he isn't responsible for the sadpanda thing, the only bad thing he is doing is destroying is website. But who cares about that?
It uses DHT. I just checked and the torrent started very fast.
>He's making it possible to have uncensored ero manga soon.
we already have uncensored ero manga, are you mentally challenged, who the fuck is going to waste up to thousand of dollars just to share some fap material with other weebs?
But then a lot of people wouldn't keep an encrypted and a decrypted copy. leading to >>111078242
And maybe add webseeds for a bunch of mirrors
The only thing that currently isn't censored is decensored stuff or very rarely leaked stuff, but that's normally not the case. Decensored versions are extremely time consuming to create, if you think otherwise, try doing it yourself. That's why a decensored version normally isn't available of a manga. Considering this, saying we already have uncensored ero manga like that is quite an exaggeration.
Guys I think you are missing a major point here.
You first need to make a backup.
Then distribute the information.
Are all these hentais not available through other means?
Do we need to download the images from the site or just the names?
close to 20tb of porn that range from mild to utterly disguting, that has to be resilient to censorship, dcma, heat death of the universe. it can't be centralized and controlled by one guy
so I get that Jacob is being an ultra faggot and that fakku is a good site
for me to take a shit on
Why did the sadpanda agree to take down that shit though? It doesn't make sense, why would exhentai comply?
I can't enjoy this. You're a literal faggot if you don't want to look at well-drawn dicks.
nipponese publisher wani sent DMCA notices for everything any of their artists ever published (even outside them as doujins) even if they were behind the secret clubroom. most suspect 'someone' tipped them off.